[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-11 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks, Dan. Normally I tune these lutes (67cm)in F (you can think of it, as I usually do, as g' at a'=392) - but I find they are often just as happy a semitone lower (i.e. top string e' at modern pitch). This particular lute has gone, but I will be playing some pieces on my old 7c lute -

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-10 Thread wikla
:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Thanks, Goeran. We have debated on this list before the virtues or otherwise of live performance-type recordings as opposed to perfect commercial CD-type recordings. I don't like to hear blemishes (especially my own!) but at the same

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-10 Thread Daniel Winheld
Finally got to hear this- lots of applause, floor stomping, whistles, Encores! from the audience. That big, low sound- (F, A=415 ?) -all gut, like big bites of dark chocolate. Yummy delicious. Much like my Larson only deeper. Fine playing too; perfect pacing, impeccable phrasing, full solid

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-09 Thread Martin Shepherd
editor as well as a generous sharer of music and knowledge. In short a compleat lutenist. Cheers! G. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherdmar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute Listlute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-09 Thread Edward Mast
as a generous sharer of music and knowledge. In short a compleat lutenist. Cheers! G. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherdmar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute Listlute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Thanks, Goeran. We

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread G. Crona
Cool Martin! Did you record it all in one go or weed out mistakes in audacity afterwards? You seem to be quite unique in the lute community in that you BOTH build excellent lutes as well as being a very sensitive and able player. Kind regards G. - Original Message - From: Martin

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks, Goeran. We have debated on this list before the virtues or otherwise of live performance-type recordings as opposed to perfect commercial CD-type recordings. I don't like to hear blemishes (especially my own!) but at the same time I don't want to spend hours editing out every single

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread G. Crona
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Thanks, Goeran. We have debated on this list before the virtues or otherwise of live performance-type recordings as opposed to perfect commercial CD-type recordings. I don't like to hear blemishes (especially my

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Edward Martin
Yes, that is very clear Martin. Well done! ed At 05:56 AM 4/8/2011, Martin Shepherd wrote: I hope I have shown that gut strings can be used to good effect. Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Nancy Carlin
Another luthier who is a wonderful player is Andrew Rutherford. Did you record it all in one go or weed out mistakes in audacity afterwards? You seem to be quite unique in the lute community in that you BOTH build excellent lutes as well as being a very sensitive and able

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread wikla
an excellent editor as well as a generous sharer of music and knowledge. In short a compleat lutenist. Cheers! G. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Edward Mast
Very lovely sound and playing, Martin. The difference between a 59cm string length lute and 67cm lute is, perhaps, similar to the difference between a baby grand and a concert grand piano, yes? But for the player, the concert grand keyboard is essentially the same as the baby grand; for the

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Shepherd
. Cheers! G. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherdmar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute Listlute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Thanks, Goeran. We have debated on this list before the virtues or otherwise of live performance

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Stuart Walsh
have added an excellent editor as well as a generous sharer of music and knowledge. In short a compleat lutenist. Cheers! G. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherdmar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute Listlute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread Gilbert Isbin
Very beautiful played Martin. Great lute sound too. Gilbert http://users.telenet.be/gilbert.isbin/contents.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-03-05 Thread Martin Shepherd
On 05/03/2011 11:32, Stuart Walsh wrote: Very nice playing. Gutsy, as it were! You're playing quite freely? Thanks, Stuart - and thanks for the Youtube advice. Yes, I feel a certain freedom is called for in a prelude, which should probably sound as though it is being improvised. In fact

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month - ornaments

2011-02-17 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, (Stuart, I hope you don't mind me sharing this with the list, but I think this might be of interest to everyone) Pavans are tricky. Viol players always seem to play them too fast (presumably because their parts have no written out divisions on the repeats) and lute players have a

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-02-15 Thread Edward Mast
Very beautifully played. Thank you! The new owner should be delighted. On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear All, I'm finally catching up with myself! Before the new lute went off to its new owner I managed to make several hasty recordings, so this is the same lute as

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-02-01 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks for your comments, Dan. Just a few random thoughts of my own: The business of different sizes of lute is interesting. One thing is clear - you get used to whatever you are playing at the moment, and when you change to a different lute (shorter or longer) it seems strange at first.

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-02-01 Thread David van Ooijen
Lovely playing, lovely sound. The business of different sizes of lute is interesting.  One thing is clear - you get used to whatever you are playing at the moment So true. My extremes are a 54cm 6-course and a 78cm 10-course. When ordering these (together) from Stephen Sandi I think I asked

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-02-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
is that in this period there was no one general purpose size - it depended on time and place (and composer). Martyn --- On Tue, 1/2/11, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month To: Daniel Winheld

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month [+Zoom H2?]

2011-02-01 Thread Anthony Hind
@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoyé le : Mar 1 février 2011, 11h 01min 11s Objet : [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Thanks for your comments, Dan. Just a few random thoughts of my own: The business of different sizes of lute is interesting. One thing is clear - you get used to whatever you are playing

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month [+Zoom H2?]

2011-02-01 Thread Martin Shepherd
: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoyé le : Mar 1 février 2011, 11h 01min 11s Objet : [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Thanks for your comments, Dan. Just a few random thoughts of my own: The business of different sizes of lute is interesting. One thing is clear - you get used to whatever you are playing

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-02-01 Thread Edward Mast
Thanks, all, for an informative discussion of lute sizes and their relative merits. For me, at least, things I hadn't realized or even thought about. On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Awesome indeed- Martin's got the best one-stop operation for everything lute anywhere.

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-31 Thread Thomas Walker
Hello Martin, Gorgeous playing lute! I love the C36, I've always thought the mensur overall proportions to be ideal for a late 16th century lute. Best, Tom -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-31 Thread Anthony Hind
: Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com A : mar...@luteshop.co.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Lun 31 janvier 2011, 22h 18min 34s Objet : [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Hello Martin, Gorgeous playing lute! I love the C36, I've always thought the mensur overall

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-31 Thread Edward Mast
I'm sure Tom is much more familiar with historical lutes than I am. But I'll accept that he's right about the ideal nature of these proportions. The sound Martin gets from it would certainly support that view. Having owned a lute with 64cm string length for a while, I must admire anyone who

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-31 Thread Ron Andrico
CC: mar...@luteshop.co.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: nedma...@aol.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month I'm sure Tom is much more familiar with historical lutes than I am. But I'll accept that he's right about the ideal nature of these proportions. The sound

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-31 Thread Thomas Walker
Ed all, Actually, the bit about proportions was more of a personal statement. The Venere is somewhere in between some of the very slender Maler lutes and other far more rotund shapes, which I like. The practical demands of playing with others usually means one has a lute good for

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-31 Thread Daniel Winheld
Awesome indeed- Martin's got the best one-stop operation for everything lute anywhere. 67 cm. for a Renaissance lute ought to be a fine size. I owned a 72cm. 8 course Division Bass lute in E (A fluctuating between 415 and 430) for years- the acid test for my left hand was the F chord (A flat

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 30/01/2011 16:18, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear All, With one day to go, here is January's piece of the month: www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm - played on a new all-gut strung 7c lute (67cm, after Venere C36). I hope you like it. Best wishes, Martin Great! Lovely

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks. The 5th, 6th and 7th are in octaves. The 5th is a Larson pistoy, the 7th is a Larson gimp, and the 6th is a simple high-twist string of unknown origin which is actually the best of the three! All the other strings are ordinary low twist strings from Sofracob, except the

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Mathias Roesel
Most exceptional  thank you, Martin! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Martin Shepherd Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. Januar 2011 17:19 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] new piece of the month Dear All,

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Sean Smith
Very nice, Martin! Exceptional piece of music, too. The long stringlength works nicely with the arpeggios I saw a microfilm of this many years ago and it was very difficult to read (washed out, most of the rastering was missing). Later, I saw the excerpt on the cover of Anthony Rooley's

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month AND

2011-01-30 Thread Martin Shepherd
Happy Birthday, Sean! The MS in question, formerly known as the Cosens Lute Book, should probably be called the CK Lute Book, as these initials appear at the ends of several pieces otherwise known to be by a different composer. I have a partly-illegible photocopy, and it would indeed be nice

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Edward Martin
Lovely, Martin. I really like the strings, in addition to the nice sounding lute. Beautifully played as well! ed At 10:18 AM 1/30/2011, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear All, With one day to go, here is January's piece of the month: www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm - played on a

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Nancy Carlin
A while back Denys Stephens and Chris Goodwin both told me that the next things in line to be published as facsimiles were Cambridge manuscripts. Since Denys is on the list he will probably chime in with some info on future plans. Nancy Very nice, Martin! Exceptional piece of

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-01-30 Thread Edward Mast
I enjoyed it all; the music, the playing, and the instrument. Thanks for posting. -Ned On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear All, With one day to go, here is January's piece of the month: www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm - played on a new all-gut

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-10 Thread A. J. Ness
Dear Martin, It's always nice to see Francesco in different readings. And there are many to chose from. Just a few comments as a postscript for your posting. The title of No. 4 is simply Recercata. Ser zimlich is a comment added by a hand and pen distinctly different from that of the

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread Edward Martin
Thank you, Martin! Your playing is lovely, and I very much enjoyed this . Thanks! ed At 09:43 AM 1/9/2011, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, The new piece of the month might be (!) by Francesco da Milano - and I've added another previously unknown concordance for Ness 75 (thanks to John

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi Alan, There's no universal meaning, but in this manuscript it seems to be a hold sign. One or more of P.P.Borrono's printed books uses a double x for the same purpose. All the best, Martin On 09/01/2011 17:18, Alan Hoyle wrote: Sorry to take more of your time, Martin -

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread Ron Andrico
Hello Martin: Very nice performances of the Francesco pieces. Some years ago on this list, I pointed out that N 75 bears a strong resemblance to the (unfortunately corrupt) 'Fansye' on page 235 of the Marsh ms. Has anyone else noticed this? Best wishes, Ron Andrico

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks, Ron. In fact it was you who drew my attention to the connection when I published the Marsh piece as a piece of the month in April 2008 with thanks for your contribution. So now we have another connected piece - though the connection is much stronger with the CH piece, which is

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread A. J. Ness
The Fantasia de Lopez in Madrid 6001 also has the same beginning. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update Thanks, Ron. In fact

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread A. J. Ness
The three may be parodies of the same vocal model. - Original Message - From: A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net To: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 4:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update

2011-01-09 Thread Ron Andrico
: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:29:48 + To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: mar...@luteshop.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month + FdaM update Thanks, Ron. In fact it was you who drew my attention to the connection when I published the Marsh piece as a piece of the month

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel Winheld
Do it again and this time throw in a few more. Sounded damn good to me. Better yet- EDIT some bloopers in! Wouldn't that be what's called reverse engineering? I forgot to say, I threw in a few bum notes just to keep everybody happy Martin -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month, including new duet

2010-11-08 Thread Edward Mast
Thank you, Martin; very nice indeed! On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, Same all-gut strung lute as last time, another gem by Anon: www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.html I hope you enjoy it, Martin To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2010-10-17 Thread Nancy Carlin
I liked your description of Matthew Holmes' use of the sharp sign. I have spent some time lately with Dd.9.33 and Holmes has written a lot of notes on lines instead of between the lines. In almost all of the places the note is on the line below the space it belongs in, so perhaps

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2010-10-16 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 16/10/2010 16:34, Martin Shepherd wrote: With apologies for the long gap in this series, a new piece of the month has finally escaped from my music room, played on a new lute after Maler (67cm) strung entirely in gut. http://www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm You'll want to

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2010-10-16 Thread G. Crona
Very nice Martin IMO this has a quite some resemblance to that other VW dump O'Dette made famous KUTGW G. - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: [LUTE] new piece of the

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2010-10-16 Thread Nancy Carlin
Thank you, thank you for this piece. I have been fascinated with it for quite a while and about a year ago asked the list if anyone knew where to find it. Ron Andrico got back to me with a link to the music, which he has on his web site. So now what is really interesting is the

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2010-10-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
Very nicely played and ornamented. Pictures of that lute??? On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: With apologies for the long gap in this series, a new piece of the month has finally escaped from my music room, played on a new lute after Maler (67cm) strung entirely

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-21 Thread Rob MacKillop
that way, but I have it up my sleeve for when it seems the best option. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 June 2008 22:50 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June Gee what

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Really beautiful, Martin. A fine piece and very fine playing. Isn't the Internet a wonderful thing when used positvely and creatively? And what a wonderful resource your website is already, with more to come. Keep up the good work! Rob McKillop 2008/6/20 Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Stephen Arndt
Dear Martin, Once again, a very beautiful piece and exquisitely played. Tell me, how did you finger the chord on the third beat of measure thirty-eight? Did you hold down the notes on the second and third strings with the second finger amd use the third finger on the fifth string (which I

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks, Bernd - I thought of our previous conversation about this piece when I chose it - it seemed so obvious that I should publish it, with the evidence of its derivation from the motet. The lute is my old Gerle, made in 1985, string length 60cm, strung entirely in gut with a Larson Pistoy

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
Gee what an annoying chord that is. I have seen people play all four strings, that is two courses, with the tip of one finger. My finger is not wide enough. I accept this as more or less unchangeable, unless I go to a really narrow spacing. Thanks for the lovely edition. dt Stephen Arndt

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-06-16 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi, again, I just took the time to read this through, and I had a similar experience to Rob's in Turkey when I played with traditional Cambodian musicians here in America, though there was no score and the variations and ornamentations (as we would call them) on the basic tune (as we would call

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month

2008-05-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Mar 9, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Arthur Ness wrote: There are contracts with printers that indicate in the 16th century the usual press run for a book of lute music was about 1250-1500 copies. And when you look around for surviving copies, how many are there? Usually about a half dozen. More

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-09 Thread Anthony Hind
Martin I am just back from a trip to England, and I am very pleased to see and hear the new piece of the month along with the tab, as usual so sensitiviely played; and giving me the desire to attempt to play it myself. Best regards Anthony Le 29 avr. 08 à 15:00, Martin Shepherd a écrit :

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-09 Thread Rob MacKillop
Got your new Gottlieb 11c, Anthony? Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Rob: Sorry for the delay in response to your comments. I wish I had more time. I'll try to offer some clarity to my prior post. 1. How can you say that you 'can state this without reservation' that 'everyone in the sixteenth century who was fortunate enough to lay hands on a lute

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Denys Stephens
copies to amateur players without formal musical skills. Best wishes, Denys -Original Message- From: Ron Andrico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 May 2008 14:30 To: Rob MacKillop Cc: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Dear Rob: Sorry for the delay in response to your

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
Or exactly the opposite- that the ability to sing was far from prevalent. RT - Original Message - From: Denys Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Dear Ron, Just a short note in support

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Andrico
and in public places today. Music was even more important 500 years ago, only it was played by real people as a part of daily life. Best wishes, Ron Andrico www.mignarda.com Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:33:02 -0500 CC: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Mark Wheeler
] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Mai 2008 18:06 An: The Other Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month To All: Without getting too tedious or serious about this subject, it seems people are missing a major point: Everyone who was educated in the 16th century was educated in music

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Peter Nightingale
On Thu, 1 May 2008, The Other wrote: What ever happened for the quest to sing/play the one perfect note? Or maybe that's a modern quest. Just musing... The Other Stephen Stubbs Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the main problem with a lute is that it

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Fletcher
Mark wrote... Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the main problem with a lute is that it lacks a leg that shines. Are we leading on to the cello-pin thread again? Best Wishes Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Fletcher
Sorry, I should have attributed this to Peter N. Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the main problem with a lute is that it lacks a leg that shines. Are we leading on to the cello-pin thread again with this one? Best Wishes Ron (UK) To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread Rob MacKillop
This is an interesting subject. I have to own up and say it was me who asked Martin why there were no twiddles in his performance. I didn't mention it on the list in case it came across as criticism, which of course it isn't. I thank Martin for bringing the subject to the list. Please excuse me

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread Ron Andrico
in Capirola's book should ! really be a starting place.Best wishes, Ron Andrico www.mignarda.com Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:40:03 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month This is an interesting subject. I have to own

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread Rob MacKillop
Dear Ron, I'd like to thank you, in turn, for your thoughtful reply. If I take issue with one or two points, it is nothing personal - I'm just thinking out loud. 1. How can you say that you 'can state this without reservation' that 'everyone in the sixteenth century who was fortunate enough to

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread howard posner
On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: When singing part music, a singer only had one part to read, and did not have the luxury of scanning the complete score to see where he or she could add bits here or there. Neither does the first oboe player in an orchestra playing Handel

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread Ron Fletcher
Zarlino, in _Istitutioni harmoniche_, 1558, wrote: Matters for the singer to observe are these: First of all he must aim diligently to perform what the composer has written. He must not be like those who, wishing to be thought worthier and wiser than their colleagues, indulge in certain rapid

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread David Rastall
On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: 2. The important part of your useful Zarlino quotation, for me at least, was 'progressions absolutely intolerable in composition'. This clearly divides the matter into two seemingly polar camps: Performance Practice and Compositional

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-30 Thread David Rastall
On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Ron Fletcher wrote: I wish the modern-day RB singers would take this to heart. They never hold a note and sing every possible note around it instead! My friends say it is merely interpretation and ornamentation. I beg to differ...The twiddly-bits are

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-29 Thread Rob MacKillop
Beautiful, Martin, and very sensitively played! Rob 2008/4/29 Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, In the nick of time, before April turns into May, there is a new piece of the month: www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm Do let me know what you think - sending parcels off

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-29 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Martin all: Thanks for posting this fantasia from the Marsh book, and I like the way you have repaired the funny bits. I have chosen this fantasia several times as a quiet interlude for communion when playing for church services, just repeating or extending as necessary. If it sounds

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-29 Thread Alan Hoyle
Thanks you, Martin: beautiful. With tablature and performances like this, would you consider remaining in the 16th century for a good few more years, please? Alan - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 29,

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-29 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Ron and All, Thanks for pointing out the cognate - I wasn't familiar with Ness 75. It does, however, reinforce my impression that the Marsh piece is probably an intabulation of a vocal piece, and Ness 75 is yet another example of a piece which makes use of thematic material from a vocal

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2008-04-29 Thread Ron Andrico
, 29 Apr 2008 22:04:10 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month Dear Ron and All, Thanks for pointing out the cognate - I wasn't familiar with Ness 75. It does, however, reinforce my impression that the Marsh piece

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2008-03-10 Thread David Tayler
Geez I paid $15 for mine. I can't remember when it was, before the internet I think. Moe's books, on Telegraph ave in Berkeley. DT The HUP Francesco edition comes around now and then. About $US200 seems to be the going price. Beware there is the Books on Demand reprint that you can

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2008-03-10 Thread Peter Martin
. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:57 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month | Thank you very much, Arthur, for your excellent explanations about concordances

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2008-03-10 Thread David Tayler
real value. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:57 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month | Thank you very much, Arthur, for your excellent

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2008-03-09 Thread G. Crona
, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New piece of the month - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] New piece of the month | Dear Arthur

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2008-03-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Subject: Re: [LUTE] New piece of the month | Dear Arthur, | | Thanks - I thought you might be interested! I had not realised it was | in Mertel as well, and now I look at it and it raises another | interesting question, because the Mertel text is practically identical | to Hirsch - where did

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month

2008-03-08 Thread Arthur Ness
- Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] New piece of the month | Dear Arthur, | | Thanks - I thought you might be interested! I had

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2008-03-06 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Arthur, Thanks - I thought you might be interested! I had not realised it was in Mertel as well, and now I look at it and it raises another interesting question, because the Mertel text is practically identical to Hirsch - where did they both (20 years apart and in different countries)

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2008-03-05 Thread Anthony Hind
All very nicely played and recorded, but what an excellent idea to give us the two 'French' tabalatures in parallel and separately. I think a number of us will be trying these two variants, under the guidance of you model playing. I must get a wifi link to be able to transport my computer.

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2008-03-05 Thread Rob MacKillop
Well done. Very nice indeed. You're going to build up quite a library of scores and sound files over the coming decades. Keep at it! Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2008-03-05 Thread Arthur Ness
Dear Martin, That is an interesting pair of works that you published. The Hirsch version is the same as a fantasia (or fuga--the titles are not specific for each piece) in Elias Mertal, _Hortus Musicalis Novus_ (Strasbourg 1615), No. 79 (pp. 222-3). Probably the proper title is Fuga. I have a