[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Daniel Heiman
I have to agree that Bream did not pioneer much. The real pioneers of the lute revival were Arnold Dolmetsch in England and Walter Gerwig in Germany. Arnold Dolmetsch taught Diana Poulton (who founded the UK Lute Society) and Suzanne Bloch (who founded the LSA). He built his own lute in about

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Braig, Eugene
Hear, hear. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Ron Andrico Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: Gary Boye ; Edward C. Yong Cc: Jurgen Frenz ; Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute I feel I must add a word of support for

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Ron Andrico
I feel I must add a word of support for Julian Bream and his many contributions to the current lute revival. As a 20th-century pioneering concert artist, Julian Bream first and foremost raised the lute from a quaint closet instrument, best suited to historians and eccentrics, to an

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Dan Winheld
And hear, hear, hear from over here. Dan On 6/19/2019 8:46 AM, Braig, Eugene wrote: Hear, hear. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Ron Andrico Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: Gary Boye ; Edward C. Yong Cc: Jurgen Frenz ; Lute List

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread howard posner
On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Franz Mechsner wrote: > Apart from my really deep admiration for Bream, I asked a very simple > question: How did he get the marvellous sound and colors from a lute > with his fingernails? No you didn’t. Your four previous posts on this subject did not

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Dan Winheld
One thing I must truly thank Franz for (aside from so innocently poking the old Bream-lute hornet's nest again!) is for bringing our attention to this marvelous autobiographically oriented retrospective film on the life of Julian Bream: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Gilbert Isbin
I totally agree with you Ron. All these rubbish about what is historically right or wrong. All this dogmas created by at the tme of it's revival progressive open minded people. In 1600, and of course in every century, creative composers,(an of cours all other arts ) focussed on what

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Ron Andrico is surely right to point out the debt we owe to Bream for making a much wider audience aware of music for the lute: both solo and with other instruments - the Morley consort lessons for example. I have a much treasured 1950s EP by Walter Gerwig with solos by Santino,

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Timothy Swain
Bravo Ron Andrico! Bravo! No more cluttering of emails--yours says it best! Timothy Swain On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:11 AM Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: I feel I must add a word of support for Julian Bream and his many contributions to the current

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Franz Mechsner
Thank you so much, Ron. Apart from my really deep admiration for Bream, I asked a very simple question: How did he get the marvellous sound and colors from a lute with his fingernails? Of course, some of the recordings sound somewhat sharp (though full of life), but some with a

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Leonard Williams
Bream's "Dances of Dowland" LP was the first performance of lute that I heard--back in '69. I was unaware of any of the HIP controversies. Early music in general was making its "debut" with groups like David Munrow's Early Music Consort of London, which I had the pleasure of

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Please don't call him JB. This is reserved for the great guitarist Jack Black :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUEOtxd_evI On 19.06.19 11:39, Edward C. Yong wrote: I have to agree. JB used his stardom to get the lute out there, even if it was a Frankenlute with nothing lute about it apart

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Gary Boye
Edward, Back in the '70s, there was a quip that "Julian Bream makes the lute sound like a guitar and the guitar sound like a lute." I think that came from guitarists who had no idea what the lute could sound like. He was pretty amazing in concert (on guitar, I didn't see him play

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Luke Emmet
Julian Bream was an inspiration to so many people to take up the lute or to fall in love with it. I count myself among them. How much visibility would our instrument have had without his performances and recordings back in the day? Yes his technique is obviously strongly guitar influenced,

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Susan Price
I would like to point out that Julian Bream is still alive (born 1933). He has always been my favorite guitarist. I often thought it was a real pity that he never played baroque lute. That woulda been amazing. Susan Original message From: Luke Emmet Date:

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Edward C. Yong
I have to agree. JB used his stardom to get the lute out there, even if it was a Frankenlute with nothing lute about it apart from the shape. Would anyone have paid attention to his lute playing if it hadn’t ridden on the back of his guitarist reputation? Probably not. I recognise that many

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Alain Veylit
Arnold Dolmetsch was French. I am sure sure some Italians had a hand in the revival of interest in the lute (Chilesotti). Fun fact: Ponce (Mexico) got yelled at for faking early music compositions while Ravel's Tombeau de Couperin (France) got praise. Mendelsshon helped revive Bach's works.

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Edward C. Yong
I don’t think Sevogia cared about anything other than his own stardom, really. This is the man who butchered de Visée’s music and happily signed his own name on a Stradivarius guitar. Edward > On 19 Jun 2019, at 4:32 PM, G. C. wrote: > > +++ Ponce (Mexico) got yelled at for faking early

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread r . turovsky
Very simply: because Bream was a great musician. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: > > My question was and is: how does it come that Julian Bream sounds so > good on the lute - though every body today

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread G. C.
+++ Ponce (Mexico) got yelled at for faking early music compositions People usually hate to be duped (as shown many years ago among our own ranks). How those works could be attributed to Weiss can only be ascribed to a lack of knowledge about Weiss' style at the time. I can't

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread G. C.
As proved with his despicable negligence and jealousy (?) towards Barrios! On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:19 AM Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't think Sevogia cared about anything other than his own stardom, really. This is the man who butchered de