[LUTE] french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread Taco Walstra
hi all, I was just looking at the picture on the latest Barto-Weiss CD showing a luteplayer with a french baroque lute. Looks quite normal until you look more careful. Two interesting things: 1. There are 6 red strings indicating loaded gut for strings where normally normal gut would be

[LUTE] Re: writing divisions

2005-11-05 Thread Vance Wood
They have to follow the chord progression and be in the same key or mode as the composition they compliment. Other than that I know of little else that govern them. Divisions can be viewed as improvisational despite the fact that most of our exposure to them have been in written variations in

[LUTE] Re: Repetitive Stress Syndrome

2005-11-05 Thread Vance Wood
Craig: I would not dream of telling you I have all the answers but I have had some of the same problems and here is how I have dealt with them. First of all you are probably playing with too much tension in both arms. Understandable because the music itself does not come easy and difficult

[LUTE] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-05 Thread Monica Hall
I don't quite understand why the string length on the Quito instrument became such an issue. There is a number of surviving early 17th century Italian guitars with string length between 72 - 73 cm. A rare vaulted-back guitar by Magno Grail c.1630, for example, was sold recently on one of the

[LUTE] Re: octaves on 7 course lute

2005-11-05 Thread Vance Wood
Personally I don't like octaves on any course. As to why the placement of octaves would change with the addition of the seventh course? All anyone can tell you is not much more than an informed assumption that with the arrival of the seventh course the music changed. Vance Wood. - Original

[LUTE] Re: Left hand tension

2005-11-05 Thread Vance Wood
I had a hand specialist tell me of an exercise that helps. Make a fist, place it on a table and slowly extend out all of the fingers as far as you can. Maintain this position for 20 seconds then draw the fingers back into the fist. Repeat three times in a sitting, and repeat three times a day.

[LUTE] Re: Left hand tension

2005-11-05 Thread Lutemann
I'd really have to see your left hand to know what to suggest. I could be a result of poor positioning, pressing too hard on the strings or just that you are playing pieces that are too difficult for you. Another cause of left hand tension is due to the instrument itself. With the

[LUTE] Aches and pains

2005-11-05 Thread corun
My thanks to all who responded to my plea for info on what you do for the pains I described. I am checking out both the Trigger Point therapy as well as the Alexander Technique (I've written Jacob with some questions but I know he's a busy man playing concerts and attending to his lovely

[LUTE] Re: Repetitive Stress Syndrome

2005-11-05 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Vance, What you are saying would be good advice for someone with good kinaesthetic awareness, so it's not wrong and I'm sure it worked for you. But one of FM Alexander's discoveries was that the kinaesthetic sense that tells us what's going on in our body can be numbed by excess tension.

[LUTE] french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Taco, The picture is an anonymous French School painting in Hamburg Kunsthalle and was featured on the front cover of Early Music magazine in October 1982. The whole picture makes it clear that it's mostly a perspective problem, since the bridge also is on at an impossible [and opposite]

[LUTE] Re: Repetitive Stress Syndrome

2005-11-05 Thread Vance Wood
Denys: I agree, the Alexander Technique is the way to go. There are two problems, one is finding someone who is skilled in teaching it, and the other is, as I understand it, giveing up playing the instrument for five years so that you can unlearn some bad habbits. Julian Bream used this method

[LUTE] Re: french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread Vance Wood
David: After looking at the painting I have to agree with you. There are quite a few anomalies in perspective and proportion that do not make any sense as to an actual Lute. In other words the painting is too far from perfect to place too much credence on any technical information one might

[LUTE] Re: Repetitive Stress Syndrome

2005-11-05 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Vance, I'm glad to say that whoever told you that it's necessary to give up playing to use Alexander Technique was quite wrong - you don't need to stop playing at all, let alone for 5 years. If you have Alexander lessons and play the lute, what will happen is that over a period of time an

[LUTE] Re: Repetitive Stress Syndrome

2005-11-05 Thread corun
Dear Denys and Vance, I have managed to find a teacher in the Annapolis area, about 20 miles from where I live in southern Ann Arundel County. Her name is Robin Gilmore and she is a dancer and has taught musicians as well as dancers and other performers. I've written her an email and she's

[LUTE] Re: writing divisions

2005-11-05 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
Fredrico Marincola did an interesting course at the LSA a few years back that looked at the divisions in the Capirola lute book. The first problem in trying to analyze them is to sort the divisions out from regular moving passages. He had us compare several Capirola intabulations with the

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings and nails- Dalla Casa

2005-11-05 Thread Donatella Galletti
That's my point, we just think to play like they used to do in the past, but now and then something comes out to show us we are still far away... Donatella - Original Message - From: Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005

[LUTE] Re: french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread Donatella Galletti
Thanks, Edward. In my opinion, considering the body of the instrument and the lenght of the lutenist's forearm and fingers, he had no other way to play, because keeping his hand toward the rose would have meant to have his shoulder and wrist in such a position to suffer from pain in thirty

[LUTE] Fuenllana Fantasia

2005-11-05 Thread Alexander Batov
From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Fuenllana Fantasia I've just uploaded mp3 file and score for Fuenllanas 3rd fantasia from his fourth book: http://www.musicintime.co.uk/Fuenllana.htm - scroll down to

[LUTE] Re: french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread Gernot Hilger
Dear David, thanks for making he painting available. it is quite interesting that instruments in general and lutes and violins in particular tend to be somewhat distorted even in paintings of better masters. My son, who is 18, is working very hard to master drawing and painting. He is

[LUTE] Re: french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread bill kilpatrick
albrecht durer used a lute to demonstrate a drawing devise he made from a frame bisected with equally spaced, horizontal and lateral wires. by looking through the wire grid the artist could accurately gauge the lute's difficult perspective. lutes also feature heavily in david hockney's theory

[LUTE] Re: french baroque lute painting

2005-11-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
albrecht durer used a lute to demonstrate a drawing devise he made from a frame bisected with equally spaced, horizontal and lateral wires. by looking through the wire grid the artist could accurately gauge the lute's difficult perspective. Which is no indication that Duerer used it himself,