RE: Fronimo files

Hi, it's a change in the Yahoo policy. Unfortunately, from the past month, it's no more possible to set the file permissions inside the File area of any of the Yahoo groups to be readable by people which is not registered to Yahoo, but fortunately the registration is still free. Also the

RE: copying bars with Fronimo

From release 2.1 the right mouse button is used to bring up the pop-up menu. To select measures hold the Ctrl key and left click on the measures. Francesco Has anyone been able to select/copy single bars in Fronimo using the right mouse button as described in the help. I can't seem to get

R: For Francesco Tribioli

Francesco, your account is broken - in the hope that you have another one :) No Rainer, I was just away these last three days for work (yes, I admit that sometimes I actually have to work! 8^)) About the PDF in Fronimo thread I cannot say more than the collective wisdom has already said.

R: Size of the lute world

Timothy Motz wrote: I have noticed that there is an ebb and flow to the flame wars that coincides with the full moon. We are just reaching a full moon right now Should we consider RT, MO, MT and all the fighting gang on this list belonging to the family of lycanthropes?!? WOW!!! Till

RE: Beer bottles and lute rosettes: a frank discussion

Dear Robert, I don't know much about beer bottles, but I do know about guitars. Anyone can perform a simple experiment, By covering the sound hole on your guitar, with a piece of cardboard , One will then notice no change in the volume or treble, however, it is very striking the

RE: Current ongoing topics

It resulted in the multiple Lute prefix that obliterated the subject after 2 responses. RT Which of course is a highly desirable side effect, considered the quality of the recent threads... Francesco

R: Seeking advice for 4th course

My teacher says that if you want longevity, use carbon. But if you want a good sound my hear says: definetively use gut. 8^) Francesco

R: R: Seeking advice for 4th course

My teacher says that if you want longevity, use carbon. But if you want a good sound my hear says: definetively use gut. 8^) Francesco And a modicum of masochism... RT Not at all! I'm very happy with gut. My 3 lutes and my baroque guitar mounted gut strings from the beginning.

R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

Wasn't Per Brahe a famous astronomer? His lute book at the That was Tycho Brahe... Francesco

R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

Was it this Tycho that has the large crater on the moon named after him? Sure, it is. Tycho designed many instruments and was the first to do very accurate astronomical observations. His observations of the motion of the planets were used by Kepler to formulate his famous three laws. The most

R: R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

Dear Ed; And so was Galileo himself a lutenist. Or so I've heard. Gary It has been reported that Galileo Galilei was an accomplished lutenist, more skilled than his father Vincenzo. Even in his latest years he was

RE: R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

Of course, Francesco Tribioli, an astronomer(?) himself, would name his Yes, indeed. I would say a former astronomer as in the last 15 years or so I've worked fulltime with computers, here at the Florence Astrophysical Observatory. tablature program after Vincenzo Galilei's treatise

R: Unusual time signatures

Dear Stewart, Fronimo 3 will have both this irregular meters, like 5/8 and 7/8, and the way to change the default association between |\ and the mensural notation value (it may be wrong but often I prefer the old equivalence for transcriptions 8^)). It will have the possibility to have a

HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

with their right name. Thanks a lot in advance! Francesco Tribioli

RE: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

are going to be unhappy. I would wager most in the Lute community would instantly understand that Francesco is most surely Francesco Canova Da Milano Da Parigi. The point is that Francesco da Milano was never called just Francesco at his times as it was for, say, Michelangelo. Perhaps it

R: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

Oddly enough Francesco and Michelangelo were both awarded the title Il Divino, do you think they were called that? I am not sure how you know what FDM was called in his time. If Michelangelo was known as Michelangelo why was it not possible for FDM to be known as Francesco understanding

R: HIP, Renbourne ODette

IE6.0 likes it. ft http://www.cbsr.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/Publications/Unicorn/Unicorn.xml Note: this is an xml document, and some browsers may not like it... Alain IE doesn't, Mozilla does. RT

R: R: HIP, Renbourne ODette

The most current Mac version for OS9.2 has no files listed in the XML doc. RT IE6.0 likes it. ft Mac?? What is Mac? 8^)) ft

RE: Hercules, Catholic mass, and vihuelas.

OK. The mass is for a nobleman named Ercole. Two questions: The original Messe by Josquin is for Ercole I, Duke of Ferrara. Not just a nobleman but a sort of absolute sovereign in his small duchy. He employed for a short time Josquin at his court in 1471. 1. Why does the title, in the

R: Mary Burwell Tutor

Hi all, I'm interested in the Mary Burwell lute tutor, reprinted in facsmile years ago by the Severinus Press (am I right?). Where can I find it (I mean the facsimile, of course...)? In march 2004 I asked them, and they said: ***

R: Rubato and rolling chords

in some way. Not quite lute, but Carcassi stated that all all chords should be rolled in his early 19th-c. guitar method. The same holds for ornaments. Piccinini says: In tutti li luoghi dove si deve fermare assai, o poco, quivi si deve fare il Tremolo, hora si fà un sorte di Tremolo,

R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

Hi all, I think the trick of lowering tension cannot work. If you lower tension you would need thinner strings or otherwise the pitch would be as low as a third or even more below the standard 415Hz A. Many historical baroque lutes are already too much longer to accommodate

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

Dear Stephan, it has been argumented that playing close to the bridge produces better (brighter) basses. However, it occurs to me that the extreme thumb-out positions we see on old paintings result in darker basses and brighten the sound of the upper register. If the aim had been to

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

Right, but actually the possibilities are *not* endless. They are portrayed, more or less, all in the same position. 8^) Then what about the portraits of Mouton and Gaultier? They are not exactly unknown lutenists and if I was a famous master I would have liked to be portrayed more or less in a

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

Dear Stephan and all, At least with my hands it's in no way easier to play thumb-out on low bass courses. If I want to keep the little finger on the soundboard and away from the first course, the thumb virtually is _in_ when lying on e.g. the 11th course. Interestingly it only seems to

R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

Dear Martin and Ed, historical fact. I have found the same results with roping, that it gives a rather dull sound. The lower tension solution seems to be logical. Do you really think that one could play with basses with a 1N or more less tended than the other strings? It contrasts with all

R: R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

Dear Ed, ah, ok, but then you should tune at a lower pitch because they hadn't string thinner than 0.40mm. In any case I'm wondering if there were instrument built and used for playing in consorts and instruments built for solo and if they actually used different tuning (meaning the

R: Tombeau de Mezangeau

Dear Wayne, there is a PDF copy from Perrine at http://www.polyhymnion.org/tombeau/tombeaux/perrine.pdf Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

RE: horizontal spacing in tablature

Fronimo's spacing is easy to achieve, if you know the parameters you are entereing (1.5 for most durations). This is how it will be in version 3.0 because the space between notes changes in a continuos way. In the 2.1 the space can change only in fixed steps and you have to set the number of

R: Lute Editing Programmes

Fronimo is great for Windows platform, though it doesn't have the feature I love in Sibelius, which is its midi playback capability. Fronimo had MIDI playback capability from the very beginning, even directly from tablature. 8^) Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at

RE: Willams Concert

I have yet to open any of your cheesy products, I'm not about to start now. Michael Thames www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com Just because I like logic: how do you know they are cheesy if you have never opened one of them? 8^) Francesco To get on or off this list see list

RE: Ornamentation of Delacourt Pavin

BTW I re-typed this piece in Fronimo, but could not find a dot to go before a note. I could place a dot under (first finger RH), or dot after, (which may mean something entirely different). The only alternative was to print it out and write these dots in by hand. The ornamentation dots

R: Which meantone temperament to use on fixed fret instruments?

Hello Dana, A few years ago I had brief conversation with Pat O'Brian on the subject of temperament for fixed fret instruments, as I recall he, and others he plays with, were exploring 1/6 comma meantone. I find some online information that should enable me to do the calculations for

R: Details

This kind of messages with Details subject, Here is the file. body and an attached .pif or .scr or .exe file are known mail worms (Netsky or Bagle, I don't remember exactly, but I've read their description just today). If one opens the attachment the virus installs itself in his mailer program and

RE: Duets in guitar notation?

Dear Mathias, I think your initial question was correct. I only have a demo version of Fronimo, but I have not found a way of tranforming a tab staff into a notation staff. As Alain said, this can be done automatically in Django, and probably in the other notation based programs

[LUTE] R: Re: What you say lingers on...

As Russians say Words written with a pen cannot be deleted by an axe RT As the Romans (not many RTs... the inhabitants of ancient Rome 8^))) said even before: Verba volant, scripta manent. Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] RE: AW: Re: V. Galilei

Subject: [LUTE] AW: Re: V. Galilei If I recall correctly you will find the complete Il Fronimo on the Fronimo site of Francesco Tribioli. Best wishes Thomas Ariel, My message to you was returned. What is the source? I've forgotten. Do you mean the duet(s?) by B.M. Gentleman

[LUTE] Re: Microfilm

Dear Sandy, I've used a scanner but it was not exactly straightforward. Scanners work very well with color films but not as well with b/w films. The reason seems to be that the color films are all transparent while the b/w are an agglomerate of very small crystals, some transparent

[LUTE] Fronimo 3 released

Dear all, sorry for sending a message that might be a little bit contrary to the netiquette. I just hope that you might be interested and you will forgive me. As the members of the Fronimo Yahoo group already know, the new main release of Fronimo is ready. Anyone interested can

[LUTE] Changed location for Fronimo

Dear all, Federico has moved the Fronimo 3 files to a faster server. The easy way to reach them is from to the home page of Federico (http://www.marincola.com), which is by the way worth a visit by itself, following the link Software. Francesco To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: New Fronimo 3 mirror

-Original Message- From: jim abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:19 PM To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: New Fronimo 3 mirror Once again, does not work. File not found. Now it is everything ok... Francesco To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Playing renaissance (7, (fwd)

For that matter, how about taking the strings off. This would mean that when you put them on again they would take a while to come up to tension, but it means that a beginner would not be confused by all those extra strings, if the beginner was playing 6 course music. When I started

[LUTE] R: g-string blues

So, what's the moral? Sh$t happens, strings do break. Could I have avoided this? Of course, I was stubborn and used 0.40mm first strings. 0.38mm would have been better because of the lower tension. Secondly, I was a miser to use up my supply of Not at all. As many times it was pointed out,

[LUTE] Re: UnHIP overspun strings.

For me the gut basses are the *real* reason to play with gut strings. I can bear high strings in nylon, even carbon chanterelle, the difference is not so big, but I really don't bear overspun basses, especially for Reinassance music but I would say for all music expect late Baroque. Their

[LUTE] Re: Joulupukki - Santa C. Was: Arto...

Of course he must exist, there are even videos showing him speaking!! Of course! And he's drinking Coke all the day... 8^( Nah... I prefer to believe to the Befana. For all you that don't live in Italy, she is a very old and proverbially hugly woman riding a broom in the nightly winter skies,

[LUTE] LSA and LS publications on eBay

Dear all, I'm sending this on behalf of my friend Allan Alexander which is temporary out of the list. He is selling various publications on eBay because almost ready to move in a new house. Here it is the list: 19 Quarterly Lute Society of America editions, Quarterlies Volume XXIX, No 1

[LUTE] Another book on eBay

Hello again, if you are interested check also this other book on eBay, sold by Allan too: a very nice copy of The Lute and Its Music A drop of coffee stain on the front. All in French from CNRS http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7410013786 Francesco To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano

- Original Message - From: Caroline Usher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:06 am Subject: [LUTE] Francesco da Milano Francesco's birthday is coming up - Aug. 18. What will you be doing? Sorry, my birthday is Jan. 23... I guess I'll drink a glass of Prosecco

[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?

I would say that the direction of the plucking should be almost irrelevant. The bridge represents a node of the wave while the antinodes (where the mass of the string moves) is in the middle of the string (if you are not playing harmonics otherwise there are more nodes and antinodes but always a

[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?

... On the other hand it could just be another example of the old makers working very quickly and even sloppily, taking Just a curiosity... Has anyone an idea of how big might have been the production rate of a lute builder workshop? How much was the lute diffused in that time population? I

[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?

Dear Francesco and All: Isn't there an inventory of the Maler workshop on his death indicating several hundred lutes in various stages of construction? That would indicate a lute every few days. Perhaps his was not a typical operation and probably employed many masters and apprentices,

[LUTE] Re: Sting? - Lute awareness?- Fantasy instrument - 30 Years of EM

Sting/Karamazov have nothing to be embarassed about. Some of my favorite CD's are of actors singing, like Gizela May, Nis Bank-Mikkelsen, Fred Aackestroem, Martin Bagge, Marjana Sadovska etc. S/K sound perfectly in place. RT Not embarrassed? They both should flee away for the shame! It's

[LUTE] Re: Problems opening Fronimo files

Dear Stephen, there was in the past a problem with some browsers (I don't remember which browser actually) that misrecognised the content of a Fronimo file and tried to adjust it adding or removing carriage returns. I don't know if this is the case though, lately no one complained anymore

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

I have if on good authority that the Labyrinth sales in Germany have already exceeded 30. RT There is an incredible amount of advertising of this CD here in Italy too. Every morning after the radio news there is an extract of Come again sang by Sting with the advise of buying the CD in

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

the modern world. Otherwise, what is the point of the 20th-century lute revival? Simply to amass information for Passing over your easy irony and attacks to the HIP police 8^), in my opinion, the point is to play music in a way that is the closest possible to the way it might have sounded,

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

Hello Stephen, I'm not certain what you meant by that last statement. If you mean that no curiosity will be generated because of the 'bad sound/music', or maybe you meant that less curiosity will be generated than if the sound/music was 'good': I will politely disagree. What I wanted

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

Toyohiko was at the LSA seminar in Cleveland this past summer, and he is proof that this can be done... a great sound, very projective. He does this in part with lower tension of the strings... Maybe as low as 2.3 to 2.5 Kg per string. With a slacker string, it is not too bright. As

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

Have you had any good result with so thin strings? Whenever I've tried a 0.38 it didn't last more that a few playing hours (3-4 hours). I guess that a 0.36 is even more prone to hairs and breakage. Perhaps a couple of hours can be enough for a concert, but... Francesco called standard a=415Hz,

[LUTE] Re: jane pickering MS

A microfilm of the Jane Pickering manuscript is available from the LSA. Ciao Francesco -Original Message- From: Manolo Laguillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:17 AM To: LUTELIST Subject: [LUTE] jane pickering MS Good morning, lutelisters, -

[LUTE] Re: ebony etc

Anthony and Rob, Martin recently made a 6c for me with a walnut body and I can say that it sounds very well (it's beautiful too). I can feel the bowl vibrating against my stomach when I play, much more than other lutes I have and had, so I wouldn't say it absorbs resonance, but perhaps it

[LUTE] Re: nylgut tensions

Talking about Nylgut, does everybody calculate tensions as for gut or do they add a little more (i.e. 0.40 gut = 0.42 Nylgut) Sometimes the tensions with Nylgut can feel a little slack to me Nigel Yes, it's better to add a little bit to the gauge. Nylgut stretches a lot before stabilizing

[LUTE] Re: copy

You can find the music that was in the internet lute society at this address: http://www.gerbode.net/ Have fun! Francesco -Original Message- From: hera caius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:56 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] copy

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

Even recordings that are unprocessed are processed (unbeknownst by the original engineer) by goofballs at the pressing plant who don't know how the machines work. This is the big problem... people are used to listen to edited recording and are not aware of this. So when they attend a concert

[LUTE] Re: Tablature notation guidelines

Dear Tom, indeed it is built into Fronimo. Just choose MIDI Files as the file format into the standard Fronimo file open dialog box. In other words, there is not a specific import command but the import is done by opening the MIDI file. Best wishes, Francesco -Original Message-

[LUTE] Re: In Italia

Thank you Leonard! I've phoned to Maurizio Pratola, the lutenist in L'Aquila, many times but his cell phone doesn't answer. Thanks God he's not in the list of the victims but might well be that his house went down or is heavily damaged. The town is for the most part inaccessible as most building

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

It is also available on microfilm from the LSA. Francesco -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stewart McCoy Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:08 PM To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Matteo Turri Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:23 PM To: Francesco Tribioli Cc: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society ... and what do you do with a microfilm today? - other than hiding it in the handle of an umbrella

[LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei

rei here means guilty, harsh etc. Reo is someone who is recognized responsible of a crime. Rei is the plural of reo. King is re and the plural is again re. The English regal in Italian is regale so it's not the case here. The object of the lyric is a male. gli is male, female would be le and also

[LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei

, as the text was probably extrapolated from the lyrics. Francesco -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Arndt Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:07 AM To: 'lute'; Francesco Tribioli Subject: [LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei I

[LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei

Here it is the only one I've found but the text is clean and with the correct punctuation: http://www.freehandmusic.com/sheet-music/o-felici-occhi-miei-from-354395. I think it's correct also because, according to the Italian rules for counting the syllables in a verse, it is formed of two stanzas

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

What about abc/abctab? It's a textual format, like Wayne's TAB format, Django as far as I know supports it (partially, completely? Export only or both ways?), and might be an alternative to XML. The problem I see with it is that it's complex and quite not user friendly for editing with a textual

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

Mimmo wrote on facebook that most if not all the string producers use now beef gut, because sheep gut is available only in limited amounts and would not be enough for a sustained production. Beside this he says that to use sheep gut doubles the production time. The use of sheep gut would result

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

Mimmo confirmed me a few days ago, when I phoned him, that the problem with Sofracob was indeed related with this EU law about gut. Then, as far as I know, it is the same company that sells gut stripes to every string maker (except Toro and Stoppani perhaps? I don't know and Toro doesn’t make lute

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

Opps prime matter = raw material sometimes language assonances tricks me hehe Francesco -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francesco Tribioli Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:23 PM To: 'Bruno Fournier'; b

[LUTE] Re: Pronunciation of Fuenllana's name.

I pronounce it the same way as I pronounce quesadilla or que. In other words, like the English word day. I don't insert a w sound in there, but the Spanish I learned (last year) was Mexican Spanish (and I may not be pronouncing that correctly). So, I pronounce it Fayn-yah-na. I'm not

[LUTE] Re: In memoriam loaded gut

As far as I know Mimmo has completely stopped the production of loaded gut strings and no one knows if he will ever start it again. My impression is that the answer is no. I asked him many times to make the four basses needed for my 11c and the answer has always been negative. At the end Martin

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - Poll

Konrad Ragosnig 6 lp set for Archiv and even more a double lp with Eugen Dombois playing Weiss and Bach and Michael Schaeffer playing French baroque. Absolutely beautiful. It was the l#39;Infidele sonata (the wonderful Musette) and the Tombeau pour M. de Logis that convinced me that I wanted to

[LUTE] Re: [Fronimo_editor] Font for German tab

http://www.fontspace.com/category/fraktur: a good source for free fraktur fonts. Francesco -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of mathias.roe...@t-online.de Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:38 PM To: Arne Keller Cc:

[LUTE] Re: Another question to Francesco

Right Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Per > conto di Rainer > Inviato: lunedì 6 febbraio 2017 14:04 > A: Lute net > Oggetto: [LUTE] Another question to Francesco > > German tab with more than 6

[LUTE] Re: A Fronimo question

Not exactly so. In regular installation, if one uses another font for the tablature letters the signature characters are still taken from the Fronimo symbols font (Ouverture.ttf). Sometimes though it happens that the installer is not able to correctly install the fonts. It must be run as

[LUTE] Re: To Franceso

Dear Rainer Please try to use my personal address (ftribi...@gmail.com) The one you are using is the work one. It should work but we are more strict with rules trying to block spam... Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: KF vs. new Aquila bass strings

I wonder what is left of the original idea of playing instruments, built as the original ones were built, with historically informed technique. Single strung archlutes, foldable theorbos, short theorbos strung with wound strings, instruments with different vibrating lengths always tuned to 440

[LUTE] Re: Spanish tab in FRonimo

Right, maybe Milan's tablature would be more correct Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of > Daniel Winheld > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 9:47 PM > To: tribioli ; Rainer online.de>; Lute net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Spanish tab in FRonimo > >

[LUTE] Re: Italian translation help

That is a typo. As a couple of lines over, it should read "penano", that means "to do with effort/sufference" or in this case "to take more or less time". "Penare poco", in Tuscan dialect, means "to do it quickly" Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da:

[LUTE] Re: Thomann Canterella and LLD lutes

Exactly. In my opinion the right violation can be only on the brand mark, if it has been registered and if Thomann lutes had it on them. There could not be a copyright on a lute design, in my opinion, as they are from historical designs which are public domain. Probably if the LDD rosette was a

[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

Well, that's a truly flattering firing :-) Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> Per conto di Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. > Inviato: lunedì 18 novembre 2019 16:17 > A: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: historically

[LUTE] Re: Reconstructing Thibault MS

Hi Sarge Most of the files are in the Google drive which address I had sent to the new group. You can also access them via the new Fronimo mini site, which is the official repository for the software too. https://sites.google.com/view/fronimo/home I transferred most of the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

> Now, the question is what is your goal in making CD strings. If you aim at > finding a substitute for gut strings than stiffer strings would be better. I am > used to gut basses so I like short sustain and a little bit stiffer string. If > someone played only overwounds he/she would probably