[LUTE] Re: A new discovery

2019-04-02 Thread Yuval Dvoran
That's absolutely amazing!!! My sincerest congratulations! Please let me / us know in advance about the date in Bremen, I'd love to come!Am 02.04.2019 17:19 schrieb franco pavan : > >    Dear All, >    In the last months I had the chance to visit a private archive in >    Italy, and I

[LUTE] Re: Angelo Michel Bartolomi

2019-03-24 Thread yuval . dvoran
There are two more pieces for theorbo in GB-NH Fh 3431.c, as far as I know. Am 24.03.2019 14:19 schrieb Roland Hayes: Aside from Goess theorbo ms and Vienna 17706, does anyone know of more theorbo pieces by this virtuoso, including any modern editions? Thanks in advance. r Get

[LUTE] Re: Angelo Michel Bartolomi

2019-03-24 Thread yuval . dvoran
No, sorry :-( I just know that it exists, from Meyer (2006): NORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire Record Office (GB-NH) FH 3431.c [2] f. 150 x 115 mm. Origine française ou anglaise. Vers 1660-1680. Une main. Théorbe à quatorze choeurs (onze choeurs utilisés) (A d g h e a). Notation française. 1

[LUTE] Re: Nylon string 2m

2019-04-01 Thread Yuval Dvoran
I know, but carbon will be too thin for this job... I'd love to use Nylgut, but 0,62 is too thick, and they don't produce it in 0,6 in 1,80m length. Am 01.04.2019 15:39 schrieb Roman Turovsky : > > you can get unlimited lenghts of Seaguar carbonfiber. > RT > > On 4/1/2019 7:20 A

[LUTE] Nylon string 2m

2019-04-01 Thread Yuval Dvoran
Hi folks, Any ideas, where I can get a nylon string of 1,80-2,00m length? I already asked Pyramid and Kürschner, both only have short ones. Savarez I'll contact in some minutes. And any experiments with line? All the best from sunny Germany! Yuval To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: theorbo music

2019-03-26 Thread yuval . dvoran
In Goess there's also one piece, and two more in F-Pn Vm.7 6265: "LE MOYNE (Le moine, Lemoinne, Lemoine, Lemoyne) Allemande, A-ETgoëss Th, 62 Allemande, F-B 279.152, 47 Allemande, F-B 279.152, 284 Allemande, F-B 279.152, 348 Allemande, F-Pn Rés. 1106, 16 Allemande, F-Pn Vm.7 6265, 46

[LUTE] Re: Heavy theorbo neck

2019-03-23 Thread yuval . dvoran
My lute builder, Dieter Schossig, is actually a physicist, and he also told me about this. It's about the energy that gets lost in the neck, instead of reinforcing the sound. Am 23.03.2019 22:29 schrieb John Mardinly: Some guitar makers have also believed that neck stiffness improves the

[LUTE] Re: Additions / corrections to www.tiorba.eu

2019-03-08 Thread Yuval Dvoran
Owner of the site is Matthew Jones, you can find him on Facebook, unfortunately I don't have his email-adress. But I wrote to him already several times since November without getting any answer I don't know where he is at the moment. :-(Am 08.03.2019 15:09 schrieb Andreas Schlegel : > >

[LUTE] Theorbo in France - books and articles

2019-03-07 Thread yuval . dvoran
Hello everybody, what would you say ist the most important literature concerning the history ofthe theorbo (as an instrument, not concerning music for the theorbo) in France? On my list are until now: Michael Prynne: „James Talbot’s Manuscript, IV: Plucked Strings – the Lute Family“, The

[LUTE] Re: Thomson, Haydn, Beethoven (was Barbara Allen)

2019-02-05 Thread yuval . dvoran
A good source of information is also the complete edition of Haydn's works which appears at Henle, Germany. The Thompson songs have a long introduction with extensive information on the songs. Am 05.02.2019 20:11 schrieb howard posner: On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:38 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: I

[LUTE] Goess Manuscript and Campion

2019-02-04 Thread yuval . dvoran
Hello everybody, in a previous thread (from 2009) I read that some pieces from the Goess manuscript seem to need a 1RE tuning. In the same thread it was stated that Campion obviously uses only a 1RE tuning for his "Addition". Maybe somebody could tell me which pieces exactly from Goess this

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in France - books and articles

2019-03-08 Thread yuval . dvoran
Dear Andreas, This site I know already, and even some of the entries for Germany are from me ;-) Trotzdem vielen Dank Dir! Yuval Am 08.03.2019 08:55 schrieb Andreas Schlegel: Dear Yuval An important ressource is here: http://www.tiorba.eu/timeline.html The menue at the right side allows to

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-25 Thread Yuval Dvoran
That's the best book I know about the song books, unfortunately in German, but you could try to borrow it somewhere, I'm sure he writes also about the authors of the poems:

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-07 Thread Yuval Dvoran
Hahahaha good point! To add something substantial to the discussion, I'd like to remember you that also plants exist which were used for thousands of years to polish wood (and maybe also fingernails), e.g. Equisetum ("Schachtelhalm" in German).Am 07.05.2019 13:31 schrieb jslute : > >    Dear

[LUTE] Big Theorbes...

2019-04-19 Thread Yuval Dvoran
Hi everyone, Which evidence do we have regarding theorboes with 18 or 19 strings / courses? I know about: -Kapsperger's 19 course instruments - Two 18 course instruments by Sellas, one in Paris, the other one in Italy - Praetorius' obviously wrong tuning instruction for an 18 course instrument.

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-08 Thread Yuval Dvoran
ago? I would > >  love to see it. Techniques used to polish things from telescope > >    lenses > >  and mirrors to razors would not work well on fingernails. The chamois > >  stropping technique used by Segovia because there was not much better > >

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-08 Thread Yuval Dvoran
gt;    would >    >  love to see it. Techniques used to polish things from telescope >    >    lenses >    >  and mirrors to razors would not work well on fingernails. The >    chamois >    >  stropping technique used by Segovia because there was not much >

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread Yuval Dvoran
I'm not sure if it was stated earlier, but actually Campion makes his teacher Maltot (who is, apart from the appearance in Campion's treatise, completely unknown) responsible for having invented the theorbo with 8 strings/courses on the fretboard, most possibly resulting from the invention of

[LUTE] Re: M. H. L.

2019-07-29 Thread Yuval Dvoran
No, unfortunately it's not the Pavan from Variety of Lute Lessons :-(Am 29.07.2019 10:36 schrieb Tristan von Neumann : > > Moritz, Hessen's Landgrave? > > > Check if there's concordance with the Pavan in A Varietie of Lute Lessons. > > > > > On 29.07.19 10:32,

[LUTE] M. H. L.

2019-07-29 Thread Yuval Dvoran
Good morning, In a manuscript from around 1600 on which I'm currently doing some research there is a Pavana with a note "M. H. L.". Any ideas which composer / lutenist this could be? The manuscript comes from the region of German/Netherland. Very curious, if anybody has to offer an solution!

[LUTE] Re: M. H. L.

2019-07-29 Thread Yuval Dvoran
heck if there's concordance with the Pavan in A Varietie of Lute Lessons. > > > > > On 29.07.19 10:32, Yuval Dvoran wrote: > > Good morning, > > > > In a manuscript from around 1600 on which I'm currently doing some research > > there is a Pavana with a not

[LUTE] Re: M. H. L.

2019-07-29 Thread Yuval Dvoran
t want to check. > > > On 29.07.19 10:48, Yuval Dvoran wrote: > > No, unfortunately it's not the Pavan from Variety of Lute Lessons :-(Am > > 29.07.2019 10:36 schrieb Tristan von Neumann : > >> Moritz, Hessen's Landgrave? > >> > >> > >> C

[LUTE] Re: M. H. L.

2019-07-29 Thread Yuval Dvoran
y Axel Halle. There is a Ph.D. on the manuscript by Claudia Knispel. > > > Best > > Joachim > > > -Original-Nachricht- > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: M. H. L. > Datum: 2019-07-29T11:19:51+0200 > Von: "Yuval Dvoran" > An: "Tristan" , &quo

[LUTE] Lully tablature

2019-09-24 Thread yuval . dvoran
Hello everybody, some weeks ago a friend sent me an article by Jean Duron, "L'orchestre de Marc-Antoine Charpentier", published in "Revue de musicologie" 72/1, Paris 1986. There the author writes on p. 40-41: "Le théorbe n’est jamais mentionné dans les sources chez Charpentier et très

[LUTE] Tiorbino

2019-11-17 Thread yuval . dvoran
Hello all, I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it (except of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it was used for playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing continuo? And is there any literature about it apart from the article by

[LUTE] Visée Transcriptions

2020-01-07 Thread yuval . dvoran
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a transcription of the Allemande in d-minor for theorbo by de Visée, Saizenay-ms. pp. 228–9. Does any of you happen to have one? I'd be very grateful! All the best for 2020 Yuval To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Visée Transcriptions

2020-01-07 Thread yuval . dvoran
Actually, I really need a transcription, because it's for a non-lutenist who can't read tablature ;-) Yuval Am 07.01.2020 21:39 schrieb Wayne: Hi Yuval - Not a transcription, but legible http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011284026247S0XA9H/1/1 Wayne On Jan 7, 2020, at 2:48

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread yuval . dvoran
Dear Guilherme, it's interesting what Philippe writes about Il Fronimo, it would be nice to talk with him about all this stuff. I met him some weeks ago, and he's the only guy I know who isn't lutenist at all and can read all kind of tablature fluently - quite crazy! To respond to your

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread yuval . dvoran
This is really quite an extreme example! But maybe with a different technique it would be possible e.g. to play the first chord? Sometimes, I have the impression that they used also Barrés with the second or third finger, which would (theoretically) make it possible to play the first chord.

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-29 Thread yuval . dvoran
oh, that's great!!! Thank you very much for the work you did! Am 29.04.2020 14:24 schrieb Martin Shepherd: Yes, there are several chords which require using a finger (any finger) to cover two or more courses, and Waissel even gives us fingerings which involve using the second finger to hold to

[LUTE] Ringfinger

2020-08-30 Thread yuval . dvoran
Dear all, first of all I'd like to express my sincerest gratitude towards Wayne for creating this great forum! Unfortunately I became only a member a few years ago, but still I enjoyed much of the discussions here! I hope, that the list will continue also after Wayne's retirement! The

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo

2020-06-04 Thread yuval . dvoran
Maybe it's worth to take a look on some of the literature? There is: Boetticher: RISM B VII, p. 351-352 (rather useless, but he gives a bunch of literature which I don't know) Meyer (ed.): Sources Manuscrites en Tablature III/1, S. 121-125 (he doesn't give any information on the other theorbo