[LUTE] Re: live lute performances recorded with a zoom h2

On Mar 17, 2008, at 2:55 PM, igor . wrote: diego ( i hope you are not italian ) is there any recorded tiorbino ? Lee Santana and Wolfgang Katschner play two Castaldi theorbo/tiorbino duets on Feast of San Rocco Venice 1608 (Sony s2k 66254) Vincent Dumestre and Massimo Moscardo play four

[LUTE] 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

So, as I did 23 years ago I took my old attiorbato and tuned it as a Tiorbino (that's an octave theorbo by the way). You have not lived till you've heard De Vissee on a solo Tiorbino. This very spiffy instrument can be used wherever a solo theorbo is used and it has the added advantage

Re: Tiorbino composers?

Alain's response prompts me to clarify my question. I'm not looking for music that can be played on a tiorbino (I suppose any Italian or French theorbo piece could be played on a tiorbino). I'm asking whether any composer other than Castaldi specifically designated music for tiorbino. I think

iconografia sarmatica

I have some fabulous new pictures in the REGIONAL iconography section, including a Cossack with a tiorbino at http://polyhymnion.org/torban RT

[LUTE] Tiorbino

Hi all- Many years ago I strung my attiorbato as a tiorbino and it worked quite well. I only kept it that way for a while though as I wanted to try other things. Anyway I was thinking of doing it again and I have a few questions about tiorbinos. Were they always single strung

[LUTE] tiorbino

dear collective wisdom, I am thinking of stringing my Colin Everette small archlute as a tiorbino. As some of you might know, Colin built many renaissance lutes on the tiorbino model, with 13 or 14 courses but was stringing it as regular Renaissance tuning with the diapasons in the same

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I've had a tiorbino before and I find it awesome for playing solo theorbo music. It sounds muck like a small harp. I even played De Visee on it and twas divine. Susan Original message From: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de Date: 11/17/19 9:47 AM (GMT-07:00

[LUTE] Tiorbino

Hello all, I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it (except of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it was used for playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing continuo? And is there any literature about it apart from the article

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Doesn't Besard's Novus Partus ask for a tiorbino for some of the ensemble pieces? On 11/20/19 9:12 AM, Richard Brook wrote: I agree with Howard If there is a free (or quite inexpensive) tiorbino around I would like to put in a request. Dick Brook On Nov 19, 2019, at 3:26 AM, howard

[LUTE] Re: tiorbino

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:14:47 -0500, Bruno Fournier wrote dear collective wisdom, I am thinking of stringing my Colin Everette small archlute as a tiorbino. As some of you might know, Colin built many renaissance lutes on the tiorbino model, with 13 or 14 courses but was stringing

[LUTE] Tiorbino

--08a6ac05ac1ff9ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Lutenetters, a costumer wrote to me and asked if my transcription of Bachs Cellosuites could be played on a tiorbino. "Do you think your transcript

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I agree with Howard If there is a free (or quite inexpensive) tiorbino around I would like to put in a request. Dick Brook > On Nov 19, 2019, at 3:26 AM, howard posner wrote: > >> On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, yuval.dvo...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> I was offered a Tio

[LUTE] Tiorbino

Dear Hive Mind, Are there a surviving 17^th century tiorbinos? I poked in your archives, but couldn't seem to find hints. A tiorbino is mentioned on Steven Barber's and Sandi Harris's homepage as "one of the best and most convincing surviving examples of a tiorbino&quo

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

Diego, did you read the essay? Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

Yes, Diego, what is the introduction by Castaldi left out of the Minkoff print? Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:50 PM, Susan Price wrote: > I've had a tiorbino before and I find it awesome for playing solo > theorbo music. It sounds muck like a small harp. I even played De Visee > on it and twas divine. > > Susan > &

[LUTE] Re: live lute performances recorded with a zoom h2

-- Forwarded message -- From: igor . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: live lute performances recorded with a zoom h2 To: Diego Cantalupi [EMAIL PROTECTED] diego ( i hope you are not italian ), is there any recorded tiorbino ? i would

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

> I may do a video of De visee on the Tiorbino recorded in the back seat of my > mustang for a world first. You definitely should do that. Looking forward to it. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow http:

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I own a Colin Everett small archlute. 56.5/104..which I guess you could consider a tiorbino, although I have never strung it as such. I tune it in standard renaissance lute tuning, and I find if quite useful to play everything from 6 course music to 13 course zamboni. Very easy

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, yuval.dvo...@posteo.de wrote: > > I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it (except > of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it was used for > playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing cont

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

uot;Hey guys, I have copied some new pieces for theorbo!" - "Sorry dude, I only have a tiorbino. My theorbo is in the workshop. Better luck next time!" Music is better than no music. So if you have an instrument that can play the pieces in question, then use it... I play 10 course mus

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi Stefan, there's another print, Novus Partus by Besard (1617), that contains music for the tiorbino. Anything that is feasible on the theorbo should also be feasible on the tiorbino, I suppose. And I love that video by Albane Imbs. Mathias

[LUTE] Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

of interesting points: 1. all Italian harpsichords had fir soundboards, not spruce, as found north of the Alps. Did I know of any fir-soundboarded lutes? Well, I didn't. Can anyone contribute something here? 2. the tiorbino: here is a fascinating article from Grant's website, discussing a keyboard

[LUTE] Rare chance to hear Castaldi in Portland

theorbo-tiorbino duets, we'll also feature the Francesco/Matelart duets for unequal lutes, plus accompanied and unaccompanied guitar and theorbo music. The blurb, if you feel like sharing and helping to get the word out: CAPRICCI A DUE STROMENTI: 17th-Century Duets for Lutes

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

-- Forwarded message - From: Anthony Hart <[1]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] 14 Course Powered Tiorbino To: sterling price <[2]spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu> I read with interest your post to the Lut

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni's theorbo?

' for this size of French theorbo) or, like the tiorbino, an octave higher. MH Diego Cantalupi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson In short, if you can you should just detune the first course and only detune the next if the second string is likely to break. So why making a double

[LUTE] Re: live lute performances recorded with a zoom h2

True, Igor. Massimo Moscardo, who plays tiorbino for this Alpha cd, is a name that sounds very, very French indeed ;-) ! Best wishes, Gianmaria, francese === 18-03-2008 07:13:30 === -- Forwarded message -- From: igor . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7

Re: iconografia sarmatica

And a pair tunes for Baroque Lute as well... http://polyhymnion.org/torban/torban4.html RT ... As well as a new item for Renaissance Lute: Sarmatica III, in chapter 4. RT I have some fabulous new pictures in the REGIONAL iconography section, including a Cossack with a tiorbino at http

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

In fact my first performance of Castaldi's Capricci (in the same programma with Pittoni) was with the tiorbino part played on harpsichord - as it now appeares not to far from historical practice. Very interesting, thanks, Rob. Jurek ___ On 2008-02-05, at 10:55, Rob Lute wrote: I

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

On 2008-02-05, at 14:21, tiorba wrote: In fact my first performance of Castaldi's Capricci (in the same programma with Pittoni) was with the tiorbino part played on harpsichord - as it now appeares not to far from historical practice. Very interesting, thanks, Rob. Jurek It's indeed

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni's theorbo?

From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In short, if you can you should just detune the first course and only detune the next if the second string is likely to break. So why making a double reentrant tuning on a tiorbino? Diego To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

Their tiorbino (Theorbo Bass Lute small ...) has (Stephen and Sandi's) description of the theorbood guitar (Theorbo Bass Lute medium). It even comes with Fontanelli's music! David - enough of this nonsense, back to work -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi

[LUTE] Re: Tiorba

On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Roland Hayes rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org wrote: ..and Castaldi's illustration is phoney? The illustration you’re thinking of is almost certainly a tiorbino. That said, it’s inconceivable that in nearly two centuries nobody NO historical players ever used

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear David, dear Bruno, thanks to both of you so much! I agree that the Cleveland instrument, beautiful as it may be, seems more likely to be a small arciliuto. And I'm grateful for your pointing at MH Brussels No.1578. I shall try to get pictures and/or plans. Mathias To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I have three possibles listed: the Hieber Pfanzelt in Geneva, 490 & 760 mm, 1x1, 5x2 + 5x1 MH in Brussels No.1578, 538 & 1069mm, currently 9x1+ 8x1 but the bridge is not original so I suspect it was originally a 13 course tiorbino with 1x1, 4x2 in lower pegbox. This is what Castal

Re: Tiorbino composers?

On Friday, Mar 26, 2004, at 08:11 Europe/Warsaw, Howard Posner wrote: ... in the latest Grove if memory serves, that Castaldi's pieces are among the few for tiorbino, which is either a statement that that there are others, or typical academic mealy-mouthed caution. Besard 1617 comes

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Nicki don't lose that number

, if someone wanted to be obtuse about it (not that anyone around here would be obtuse) he could argue that the tiorbino, like the theorbo, was strung in double re-entrant tuning because the instrument was built to such a size that it was impossible to tune it as an octave lute in A. There are such large

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

My Tiorbino is 56.7 cm on courses 1-7 and I use a tuning that is one octave above a regular big theorbo at 415. The challenge is tuning the high b string third course. I just had Boston catlines figure it all out and it works great. I used nylgut but I don't remember what the b string

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: Anthony Hart <anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017, 7:40 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Tiorbino Dear Anthony, Extant instruments can be a minefield - what were the

[LUTE] Tiorbino

A question about tiobino. The Cleveland Tiorbino on Wayne's site shows 6 +8. The bases are single strung. What is the opinion of this set up? If the basses are double should they be unison or octaves? There was a question earlier of the thiness of the 'b' (3rd). If the tension

[LUTE] Re: small archlute tuning suggestions

Thx for replying, Well I never liked that 10 course, so I said what the heck, lets try something else with that. Unfortunately I was limited to the original 59 cm on the fingerboard without undergoing major surgery. Yes I'm kind of tempted by the Tiorbino idea, I understand it is quite

[LUTE] Re: theorbo size

of Italian solo music to be quite technically challening even on my small theorbo (76cm) which I currently have inauthentically tuned in A. And then there's always the tiorbino tuned an octave higher than the regular theorbo... Only Castaldi published for this, but I suppose it could have been in wider use

[LUTE] Re: live lute performances recorded with a zoom h2

Arcileuto tuned as Tiorbino...i mean they are French -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] wound strings in 120 CM length

Can anyone give me the address of Pyramid and any other string supplier that would have strings in lengths of 120 cm or more. I have just finished modifying one of my old lutes into a small theorbized lute (tiorbino) but not small enough to accept my standard wound strings. thx -- Bruno Cognyl

[LUTE] Besard's Novus Partus

tiorbino, but that seems less likely outside of Italy that early in the 17th c. Thoughts? Thanks kindly, Thomas Walker, Jr. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Italian Theorbo: 6/8, 7/8, 8/8....

On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:29 PM, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: Poor Castaldi - according to his own engravings he played an instrument that, according to modern folklore, was a typical french theorbo (rather small, single strung with a roundish/deep body). Unless it’s the tiorbino

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

On a side note, the names of the luthiers who built the tiorbino that is now kept in Geneva, are given as: Johannes Hieber and Andreas Pfanzelt (both on the museum's page and on Barber's / Harris's page). The name of Hieber's colleague in Padua, though, apparently was Martin(o) Pfanzelt

[LUTE] Re: Rare chance to hear Castaldi in Portland

, February 16, 7:30 PM at the Community Music Center in Portland, OR ([1]3350 SE Francis Street, Portland, Oregon 97202) Besides the central element of the Castaldi theorbo-tiorbino duets, we'll also feature the Francesco/Matelart duets for unequal lutes, plus accompanied and unaccompanied

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi Anthony, The Cleveland "tiorbino" is a puzzle. The current bridge shows 6x2 + 8x1, but there are 14 pegs in the lower pegbox and 8 in the upper. My best guess is that in its original form it was a 11c liuto attiorbato, 7x2 and 4x2. The string length of around 61cm for the

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear Anthony, There's one tiorbino made by Johannes Hieber and Andreas Pfanzelt in Geneva, Musée d'art et d'histoire, inv. no. IM 80. This instrument has a new soundboard with a new bridge, but the pegs give the following informations: petit jeu: 11 pegs (suggesting 1x1 + 5x2, 48.4 cm string

[LUTE] Tiorbino

> Il giorno 18 giu 2020, alle ore 11:16, Davide Rebuffa > ha scritto: > > Dear all, > > The instrument in Cleveland could be a a very rare example of a 14-course > small archlute > (not a "liuto attiorbato" because it has single bourdons) > or a

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Many thanks for the clarification, Davide! M On 18/06/2020 11:16, Davide Rebuffa wrote: Dear all, The instrument in Cleveland could be a a very rare example of a 14-course small archlute (not a "liuto attiorbato" because it has single bourdons) or a 14-course tiorbino in G.

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

14:08 An: Mathias Rösel Cc: 'Lutelist'; 'Wolfgang u. Lenser-Emmerich Anita Emmerich'; 'Wolfgang u. Lenser-Emmerich Anita Emmerich' Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tiorbino According to the LSA database: labelled: Johannes Hieber und Andreas Pfanzelt //. Repair label: Louvet/ m (ai) tre luthier de paris à

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

Anthony Hart <[1]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> wrote: -- Forwarded message - From: Anthony Hart <[1][2]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] 14 Course Powered Tiorbino To: sterling

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

just for your information, I have a Tiorbino made by Colin Everett in Ottawa.. I tune it at standard Renaissance pitch (like a regular lute) my 7th through 13th course ( I don,t have 14 courses on this instrument, although Colin also made 14 courses) are singles and I have recently

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

et.it> ha scritto: Dear all, The instrument in Cleveland could be a a very rare example of a 14-course small archlute (not a "liuto attiorbato" because it has single bourdons) or a 14-course tiorbino in G. The brand of the unknown manufacturer is p

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

t; > Dear all, > > The instrument in Cleveland could be a a very rare example of a 14-course small archlute > (not a "liuto attiorbato" because it has single bourdons) > or a 14-course tiorbino in G. > The brand of the unknown manufactu

[LUTE] Re: [**spam**] Lutes in Eastern Europe

a tiorbino to me. RT ps I reorganized the picures, as they strayed out of category, and improved the navigation between the 5 pages. http://torban.org/mamai/index.html and the succeeding pages. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute

[LUTE] Re: wound strings in 120 CM length

] wound strings in 120 CM length Can anyone give me the address of Pyramid and any other string supplier that would have strings in lengths of 120 cm or more. I have just finished modifying one of my old lutes into a small theorbized lute (tiorbino) but not small enough to accept my standard wound

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

depends upon which expert is looking at it... :-) Garry -Original Message- From: David van Ooijen Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:21 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings? Their tiorbino (Theorbo Bass Lute small ...) has (Stephen and Sandi's) description

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

for his Nova Testudo? The other lutes seem pretty clearly to be 9 or 10 course instruments a 4th apart. The top lute, to me, looks like he's assuming reentrant tuning. I'm tempted to think of Castaldi's tiorbino, but that seems less likely outside of Italy that early in the 17th c

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

I've alway been tempted to try to tune as tiorbino, never tried it, I have the perfect small archlute for it.. 60-92 but I've always tuned it in renaissance tuning, had wound strings on 5th trhough 13th, but now using loaded nylgut. I have two such instruments, maybe I should try

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

According to the LSA database: labelled: Johannes Hieber und Andreas Pfanzelt //. Repair label: Louvet/ m (ai) tre luthier de paris à avignon/ mai 1778 pur Mr. Carpentraz// David At 13:27 +0200 19/6/20, Mathias Rösel wrote: On a side note, the names of the luthiers who built the tiorbino

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

at 4:54 PM sterling price <[1]spiffys84...@yahoo.com> wrote: My Tiorbino is 56.7 cm on courses 1-7 and I use a tuning that is one octave above a regular big theorbo at 415. The challenge is tuning the high b string third course. I just had Boston catlines figure it a

[LUTE] small archlute tuning suggestions

to use as much gut as possible. Should I: a) try reentrant tuning in G ( 1st course and/or 2nd course) b) reentrant tuning in A c) or tune like a Tiorbino ( using traditional renaissance tuning with 4th to 13th course tuned an octave up, therefore creating re-entrant tuning but all up one octave

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

.  This stuff greatly depends upon which expert is looking at it...  :-) Garry -Original Message- From: David van Ooijen Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:21 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings? Their tiorbino (Theorbo Bass Lute small ...) has (Stephen

[LUTE] Attiorbato

Hi--Last week I asked the list about tuning my 14 course attiorbato as a tiorbino...well I decided to keep it as a liuto attiorbato. I had not played it at all for several years and I am now having a blast playing some of the archlute rep as well as ren lute music including Dowland

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

tiorbino, but that seems less likely outside of Italy that early in the 17th c. Thoughts? Thanks kindly, Thomas Walker, Jr. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tiorba

: ..and Castaldi's illustration is phoney? The illustration you're thinking of is almost certainly a tiorbino. That said, it's inconceivable that in nearly two centuries nobody NO historical players ever used single-strung archlutes. It was as easy for them to do it as for us

Re=3A?=_?=_Re=3A?= 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

Am Sonntag, 05. März 2017 15:37 CET, Anthony Hart schrieb: >I do not think my message got transmitted. > >I read with interest your post to the Lute discussion group.I have been >thinking of doing the same with my attiorbato. I have problems in >

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

The Brussel instrument is depicted in „The Lute in Europe 2" p. 114. Because of the disposition of the petit jeu with 5 courses (1x1 + 4x2) I think it could be a Chitarra attiorbata. The tiorbina tablature in Castaldi asks for 6 courses in the petit jeu. Andreas Am 17.06.2020

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi All, I don't have many details of the Cleveland instrument, but I do have the poster!  I see 14 pegs for the petit jeu (7x2) and 8 pegs for the grand jeu (4x2), making it a 12-course liuto attiorbato. I think it was Larry Brown who had some measurements, if I remember correctly the petit

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

than 4 doubles which would I agree make it a liuto attiorbato. 8 singles tend towards thinking archlute, or perhaps tiorbino which is what the museum suggest, but it is rather big for that. Your figures of 7x2 and 4x2 come to an 11 course lute if my maths is right! But curiously the museum

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

gt;> > >> > The instrument in Cleveland could be a a very rare example of a >> 14-course small archlute >> > (not a "liuto attiorbato" because it has single bourdons) >> > or a 14-course tiorbino in G. >> > The brand of the unknown manufacture

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino, by Castaldi

per moglie havuto un figliuoletto vago, e piacevole, che più al Altezza de la Madre che a la Maiestà del genitore rassomigliandosi, Tiorbino fù chiamato, visto l'aplauso universale che in omni genere musicorum si dava a la Donna al putto, come lieto di una tal successione, così mezzo

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

I don't understand the text of Besard like that (nor Souris did, and he explain that widely in his introduction of the CNRS Besard). All the courses from 10th to 3rd are an octave up, and the 2 top strings are as normal G lute (so re-entrant tuning, not far from tiorbino). Le

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

in his introduction of the CNRS Besard). All the courses from 10th to 3rd are an octave up, and the 2 top strings are as normal G lute (so re-entrant tuning, not far from tiorbino). Le Mercredi 21 mai 2014 23h45, Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com a ecrit : Thanks kindly, everyone

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

of Besard like that (nor Souris did, and he explain that widely in his introduction of the CNRS Besard). All the courses from 10th to 3rd are an octave up, and the 2 top strings are as normal G lute (so re-entrant tuning, not far from tiorbino). Le Mercredi 21 mai 2014 23h45, Thomas Walker twlute

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

tiorbino usied in the italian Castaldi music has the 2 top course reentrant, if I remember well. But what is the problem with the second course? As you can see in the list by David he uses 0.78 mm. that's not 0.36 or whatever. with archlutes in G you encounter such problems, not theorbos. If you

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

the pieces by visee which exist in staff notation and theorbo tablature). Even the small tiorbino usied in the italian Castaldi music has the 2 top course reentrant, if I remember well. But what is the problem with the second course? As you can see in the list by David he uses 0.78 mm. that's not 0.36

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

correspond respectively to BH's tiorbino and theorboed guitars Awfully curious - I was already amazed enough that they were making baroque guitars, but tiorbini and chittare attiorbate as well? I was under the impression that these were extremely niche instruments. Is there enough of a market

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

are correct looking from their background.  This stuff greatly depends upon which expert is looking at it...  :-) Garry -Original Message- From: David van Ooijen Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:21 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings? Their tiorbino

[LUTE] Re: Bellorofonte Castaldi

. She played the tiorbino part. Worked very well, but we did not have time enough to perform the piece. On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:32:28 +, Dominic Robillard ubaldrosa...@hotmail.de wrote: Hello Lute listers, Perhaps some of you may have some interest in the music Bellorofonte Castaldi

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

. The top lute, to me, looks like he's assuming reentrant tuning. I'm tempted to think of Castaldi's tiorbino, but that seems less likely outside of Italy that early in the 17th c. Thoughts? Thanks kindly, Thomas Walker, Jr. -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

to be 9 or 10 course instruments a 4th apart. The top lute, to me, looks like he's assuming reentrant tuning. I'm tempted to think of Castaldi's tiorbino, but that seems less likely outside of Italy that early in the 17th c. Thoughts? Thanks kindly, Thomas Walker

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear Andreas, Yes I'm sorry, you are right, 5 courses on the petit jeu is not what Castaldi calls for. I must change my notes which I made many years ago! But the relative length of the extension on this instrument does make it _look_ more like the pictures which Castaldi engraved himself

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising no evidence

Dear Diego, On 2008-02-05, at 21:51, Diego Cantalupi wrote: Changing instrumentation in music of the time is as natural as breathing. Almost all title pages of printed music testify to it. Not so easy... it's very difficult, if not impossible, to find any music for theorbo in mensural

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolin picking

. For sure, but this is for an all-arrangements programme anyway. Not me playing, by the way, a theorbo pupil brought her mandolin friend. The Castaldi is obviously for tiorbino (the mother of all toy theorbos) and theorbo. The arrangements were well done, but the full chords of the theorbo could

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

at it... :-) Garry -Original Message- From: David van Ooijen Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:21 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings? Their tiorbino (Theorbo Bass Lute small ...) has (Stephen and Sandi's) description of the theorbood guitar

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

instrument Besard wanted for his Nova Testudo? The other lutes seem pretty clearly to be 9 or 10 course instruments a 4th apart. The top lute, to me, looks like he's assuming reentrant tuning. I'm tempted to think of Castaldi's tiorbino, but that seems less likely outside

[LUTE] Re: continuo

Very good recommendations. Castaldi's _Cappricci a due stromenti cioe tiorba e tiorbino e per sonar solo varie sorti di balli fantasticarie_ is also instructive for the songs in it, set for solo voice. The accompaniment is a bass line, beneath which is a realization in tablature for theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni's theorbo?

for continuo, is 80 cm on the fingerboard and I have not particularly small hands, being more than 6 ft tall, but I must confess I have already quite a handful of it... My smaller theorbo, which I occasionally use for continuo too :) is 73 cm, and that would almost make a tiorbino of it if I understand

[LUTE] Stephen Barber

in D; or the tiorbino) from my comment. It is especially surprising that you oppose my position since all the double reentrant theorboes in A and G listed on your own website (other than your 'own design') are directly in line with it! ie in mm: 930, 895, 860, 860, 890, 984, 900, 840, 865

[LUTE] Re: Non-Toy Theorbo for rent

to be double re-entrant. It does not say that double re-entrant tuning (or single re-entrant, for that matter) is invariably limited to instruments of a certain size. It tells us nothing about Castaldi or Pittoni. It does not explain the tiorbino. -- To get on or off this list see list information

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolin picking

brought her mandolin friend. The Castaldi is obviously for tiorbino (the mother of all toy theorbos) and theorbo. The arrangements were well done, but the full chords of the theorbo could not be matched by the mandolin. The faster chord sequences could be played non-broken by the theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus

Besard wanted for his Nova Testudo? The other lutes seem pretty clearly to be 9 or 10 course instruments a 4th apart. The top lute, to me, looks like he's assuming reentrant tuning. I'm tempted to think of Castaldi's tiorbino, but that seems less likely

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G? Plus some guidelines

which is hardly justifiable (If it's correct, you've proved that the tiorbino never existed). Players obviously liked its possibilities and gleefully exploited it in solo music. The ones that come to mind include: Praetorius (1620): Lang Romanische Theorbo:Chitarron). Scaled engraving

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni's theorbo?

not particularly small hands, being more than 6 ft tall, but I must confess I have already quite a handful of it... My smaller theorbo, which I occasionally use for continuo too :) is 73 cm, and that would almost make a tiorbino of it if I understand well... ;-) ! Best, Jean-Marie Martyn wrote

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

instruments at a significantly higher nominal pitch (eg the lesser French Theorbo in D; or the tiorbino) from my comment. It is especially surprising that you oppose my position since all the double reentrant theorboes in A and G listed on your own website (other than your 'own design') are directly

[LUTE] Non-Toy Theorbo for rent

disappointed that Mace does not mention Pittoni and Castaldi, that he doesn't discuss the tiorbino, that he doesn't give exact measurements of the size of instruments and their strings, and doesn't talk about pitch. The implication is that the information to be gleaned from Musick's Monument

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