Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Maksi
On 2008-03-23 00:43:33 +0100, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the subject line to what the discussion seems to be about. Rex On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 March

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 12:26, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the subject line to what the discussion seems to be about. I was talking about the website. In my

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Steve Litt wrote: I was talking about the website. and I was talking about the application. So here we are ;-) I didn't want to suggest to use the application workarea background for the website. Actually, I think discussing the webpage background color is difficult, independent from the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Christian, I had been talking about the website. I believe the application itself has perfect color as it exists right now. *LOL* I'll leave this particular discussion, it's just to confusing! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Maksi
On 2008-03-23 00:43:33 +0100, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the subject line to what the discussion seems to be about. Rex On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 March

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 12:26, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the subject line to what the discussion seems to be about. I was talking about the website. In my

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Steve Litt wrote: I was talking about the website. and I was talking about the application. So here we are ;-) I didn't want to suggest to use the application workarea background for the website. Actually, I think discussing the webpage background color is difficult, independent from the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Christian, I had been talking about the website. I believe the application itself has perfect color as it exists right now. *LOL* I'll leave this particular discussion, it's just to confusing! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Maksi
On 2008-03-23 00:43:33 +0100, "Rex C. Eastbourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Joost Verburg wrote: > > It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too > > unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly > > uninstall things they don't understand. > > I think the

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the subject line to what the discussion seems to be about. Rex On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 March

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 12:26, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: > Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's > background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the > subject line to what the discussion seems to be about. I was talking about the website. In

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

2008-03-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Steve Litt wrote: > I was talking about the website. and I was talking about the application. So here we are ;-) I didn't want to suggest to use the application workarea background for the website. Actually, I think discussing the webpage background color is difficult, independent from the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: > >>> It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too > >>> unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to > >>> quickly uninstall things they don't understand.

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Christian, I had been talking about the website. I believe the application itself has perfect color as it exists right now. *LOL* I'll leave this particular discussion, it's just to confusing! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Dominik Böhm wrote: To be honest with you, I first also thought that the main canvas looked old-fashioned, particularly the background color looked somehow like dirty old parchment to me. But it is very gentle to my eyes as the contrast between text and background isn't as high as in MS Word.

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? Personally, I'm opposed, yes (which does not mean that much). You can of course set your own color in the preferences. you too ;-) Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. That's a very common complaint. The brightness of large white backgrounds apparently make very subtle flickers apparent to the brain even when we do not consciously notice them. I

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jens Noeckel
On Mar 24, 2008, at 9:17 AM, John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread AK
John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you be opposed to having

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the background within the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half the people are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that might explain some confusion. rex On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jens Noeckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a minute - weren't we talking about the PDF output... ;) Ack...I'll summarize my understanding: (1) I originally sent an email requesting that people send me LyX files, which I could turn into screenshots of either

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. Hi Andrei, Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, John Coppens wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can of course set your own color in the preferences. Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each program to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow selection of a default background color, don't they? Eh... what would this result in for most users? (I'm not sure I'd realise that I can change the colour) I've changed the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread AK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. Hi Andrei, Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... /C Doh, I completely missed

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, AK wrote: Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... Doh, I completely missed the point where we branched off to talk about the LyX app as well as the site.. But, it seems to

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Kane
--- John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)? Sulpher stains? Okay, I'm leaving. __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread rgheck
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? Personally, I'm opposed, yes (which does not mean that much). You can of course set your own color in the preferences. you too ;-) You're right about that. For both of us the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:46:49 -0500 AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK no browsers let you set them to use some color if no background is set but will show document's color if it is set - but I could be wrong about this. Firefox does this, feature which I've been using for years now. There's

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread curtis osterhoudt
- Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:32:14 PM Subject: Re: Request for screenshots On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, John Coppens wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a positive way. Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Dominik Böhm wrote: To be honest with you, I first also thought that the main canvas looked old-fashioned, particularly the background color looked somehow like dirty old parchment to me. But it is very gentle to my eyes as the contrast between text and background isn't as high as in MS Word.

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? Personally, I'm opposed, yes (which does not mean that much). You can of course set your own color in the preferences. you too ;-) Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. That's a very common complaint. The brightness of large white backgrounds apparently make very subtle flickers apparent to the brain even when we do not consciously notice them. I

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jens Noeckel
On Mar 24, 2008, at 9:17 AM, John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread AK
John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you be opposed to having

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the background within the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half the people are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that might explain some confusion. rex On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jens Noeckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a minute - weren't we talking about the PDF output... ;) Ack...I'll summarize my understanding: (1) I originally sent an email requesting that people send me LyX files, which I could turn into screenshots of either

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. Hi Andrei, Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, John Coppens wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can of course set your own color in the preferences. Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each program to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow selection of a default background color, don't they? Eh... what would this result in for most users? (I'm not sure I'd realise that I can change the colour) I've changed the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread AK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. Hi Andrei, Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... /C Doh, I completely missed

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, AK wrote: Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... Doh, I completely missed the point where we branched off to talk about the LyX app as well as the site.. But, it seems to

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Kane
--- John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)? Sulpher stains? Okay, I'm leaving. __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread rgheck
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? Personally, I'm opposed, yes (which does not mean that much). You can of course set your own color in the preferences. you too ;-) You're right about that. For both of us the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:46:49 -0500 AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK no browsers let you set them to use some color if no background is set but will show document's color if it is set - but I could be wrong about this. Firefox does this, feature which I've been using for years now. There's

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread curtis osterhoudt
- Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:32:14 PM Subject: Re: Request for screenshots On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, John Coppens wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a positive way. Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Dominik Böhm wrote: To be honest with you, I first also thought that the main canvas looked old-fashioned, particularly the background color looked somehow like dirty old parchment to me. But it is very gentle to my eyes as the contrast between text and background isn't as high as in MS Word.

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is > used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? Personally, I'm opposed, yes (which does not mean that much). > You can of course set your own color in the preferences. you too ;-) Jürgen

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. That's a very common complaint. The brightness of large white backgrounds apparently make very subtle flickers apparent to the brain even when we do not consciously notice them. I

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured > > to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors > > hurts my eyes. > > But would you be opposed to having the usual colors

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jens Noeckel
On Mar 24, 2008, at 9:17 AM, John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread AK
John Coppens wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors hurts my eyes. But would you be opposed to having

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the background within the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half the people are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that might explain some confusion. rex On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jens Noeckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wait a minute - weren't we talking about the PDF output... ;) > Ack...I'll summarize my understanding: (1) I originally sent an email requesting that people send me LyX files, which I could turn into screenshots of

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, AK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Coppens wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100 > > Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>> FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured > >>>

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. Hi Andrei, Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, John Coppens wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can of course set your own color in the preferences. Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each program to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow selection of a default background color, don't they? Eh... what would this result in for most users? (I'm not sure I'd realise that I can change the colour) I've changed the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread AK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Glad to have you on the list, Andrei. Hi Andrei, Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... /C Doh, I completely missed

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, AK wrote: Just for the record, when I said I didn't like pure white as a background, I was talking about the main window of the LyX application... Doh, I completely missed the point where we branched off to talk about the LyX app as well as the site.. But, it seems to

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Kane
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Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Joost Verburg wrote: > > I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is > > used to these colors. > > FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to > bright-white paper. The

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread rgheck
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: I think the default setting should be black-on-white because everyone is used to these colors. FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured to

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? Personally, I'm opposed, yes (which does not mean that much). You can of course set your own color in the preferences. you too ;-) You're right about that. For both of us the

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:46:49 -0500 AK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK no browsers > let you set them to use some color if no background is set but will > show document's color if it is set - > but I could be wrong about this. Firefox does this, feature which I've been using for years now.

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread curtis osterhoudt
- Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:32:14 PM Subject: Re: Request for screenshots On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, John Coppens wrote: >> But would you be opposed to havi

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too > unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to quickly > uninstall things they don't understand. I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a positive way.

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-23 Thread Dominik Böhm
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-23 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I like the way the following site has several images of the software in action:

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-23 Thread Julio Rojas
My snippet... A labeled table float with two tables inside table cells and a big multiline equation inside another cell. P.S.: 3rd time I try to send this message. File size limits sucks!!! ;) -- - Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] attachment:

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-23 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Would you like people to send them to you directly? It might help if you gave some specific list of the kind of screenshots you'd like, at least as a starter. Best regards, /Christian Right. It would be best if you sent them to me directly. Format: I think it would be most useful if

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Would you like people to send them to you directly? It might help if you gave some specific list of the kind of screenshots you'd like, at least as a starter. Best regards, /Christian Right. It would be best if

Re: Request for screenshots

2008-03-23 Thread Dominik Böhm
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too. To be honest with

Upload screenshots to wiki! (Was: Request for screenshots)

2008-03-23 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Julio Rojas wrote: P.S.: 3rd time I try to send this message. File size limits sucks!!! ;) Hi, This is just a reminder that you can upload the screenshots (or screencasts!) directly to the wiki. Just ask me, or any other developer, for the upload password. /Christian

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