Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-17 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 16 Jun 2016, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Anthony Campbell  acampbell.uk> writes:
> 
> 
> > I can confirm that I had a similar problem when trying to edit a file
> > made some time ago. In the end I gave up and remade it from scratch.
> > 
> > Anthony
> > 
> 
> Did you by any chance file a bug report on it? If not, and you remember the
> details, I think the developers would appreciate it. Methinks things not in
> the issue tracker tend not to get fixed.
> 
> Paul


I didn't file a bug report (perhaps I should have done) and I don't
remember what happened exactly. It was that attempts to add a new frame
didn't work as expected. At the time I put it down to a change in the
program, but it may also have been due to my own ignorance - I don't
think I read the revised documentation until later. Sorry for not being
able to recall more details.


Anthony

-- 
Anthony Campbellhttp://www.acampbell.uk


Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-16 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Anthony Campbell  acampbell.uk> writes:


> I can confirm that I had a similar problem when trying to edit a file
> made some time ago. In the end I gave up and remade it from scratch.
> 
> Anthony
> 

Did you by any chance file a bug report on it? If not, and you remember the
details, I think the developers would appreciate it. Methinks things not in
the issue tracker tend not to get fixed.

Paul



Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-16 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 15 Jun 2016, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> 
> > With the mouse next to the figure, check whether the environment drop down
> > list says "Frame". If so, change it to Standard and increase depth to make
> > it a child of the frame. (This will also allow you to change the
> > justification of the image. I like to center mine.)
> 
> Paul,
> 
>   I've done this. With the Standard environment the increased depth icon (to
> center the figure) only adds a Frame environment to the left of the figure.
> 
>   I have found some work-arounds so I'm able to add frames and continue with
> the presentation (a 45-minute one a week from today). This presentation is
> built by modifying and lengthening one I prepared about 3 years ago with an
> earlier LyX version. I notice a number of differences in appearance between
> original frames (e.g,, a double line indicating end-of-frame vs a single
> line now) and wonder if the version differences are what's caused these
> glitches.
> 
I can confirm that I had a similar problem when trying to edit a file
made some time ago. In the end I gave up and remade it from scratch.

Anthony

-- 
Anthony Campbellhttp://www.acampbell.uk


Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Cosmetics will indeed be different. Jurgen refactored the Beamer class
massively in this version, and it may have been refactored once between
when you wrote your three-year-old original file and this version. There's
a conversion involved in getting your old presentation into LyX 2.2.0, not
just cosmetic changes in the display, so it's possible you are correct
that a version change is involved. That said, though, I've hit no speed
bumps updating any of my presentations ... so far ...


Paul,

  I assumed that much more than appearances changed since that original file
was created.


Since this issue may crop up again for you with some future update of an
old file, you might want to take a moment (when you have one) to trim down
to a minimal example and post it. Ideally, it would be best to cut down
the file (and obfuscate the proprietary stuff) in an earlier version of
LyX, so we can verify that the conversion issue is general and not
specific to your setup. That requires having access to an older version
though, so it might be too much work.


  I keep only the current version. And, this is likely to be the only old
presentation to be modified in the current LyX version. Other presentations
will be brand new so I anticipate no hassles with those.

  However, I can provide the entire .lyx file for a beamer presentation from
2006 (lyx-1.4.2 and 23K in size) if anyone wants to check for conversion
issues. Nothing proprietary in that; it was a continuing legal education
talk I gave to the Environmental and Natural Resources Section of the OBA.

Many thanks,

Rich


Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-15 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Rich,
> 
>I've done this. With the Standard environment the increased depth icon (to
> center the figure) only adds a Frame environment to the left of the figure.
> 
>I have found some work-arounds so I'm able to add frames and continue with
> the presentation (a 45-minute one a week from today). This presentation is
> built by modifying and lengthening one I prepared about 3 years ago with an
> earlier LyX version. I notice a number of differences in appearance between
> original frames (e.g,, a double line indicating end-of-frame vs a single
> line now) and wonder if the version differences are what's caused these
> glitches.

I should note that I'm also on LyX 2.2.0 (on Linux Mint). I tried grabbing a
beamer file from an earlier version (but not as old as yours), put the
cursor next to an image, and added a new frame without hassle.

Cosmetics will indeed be different. Jurgen refactored the Beamer class
massively in this version, and it may have been refactored once between when
you wrote your three-year-old original file and this version. There's a
conversion involved in getting your old presentation into LyX 2.2.0, not
just cosmetic changes in the display, so it's possible you are correct that
a version change is involved. That said, though, I've hit no speed bumps
updating any of my presentations ... so far ...

Since this issue may crop up again for you with some future update of an old
file, you might want to take a moment (when you have one) to trim down to a
minimal example and post it. Ideally, it would be best to cut down the file
(and obfuscate the proprietary stuff) in an earlier version of LyX, so we
can verify that the conversion issue is general and not specific to your
setup. That requires having access to an older version though, so it might
be too much work.

Paul



Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


With the mouse next to the figure, check whether the environment drop down
list says "Frame". If so, change it to Standard and increase depth to make
it a child of the frame. (This will also allow you to change the
justification of the image. I like to center mine.)


Paul,

  I've done this. With the Standard environment the increased depth icon (to
center the figure) only adds a Frame environment to the left of the figure.

  I have found some work-arounds so I'm able to add frames and continue with
the presentation (a 45-minute one a week from today). This presentation is
built by modifying and lengthening one I prepared about 3 years ago with an
earlier LyX version. I notice a number of differences in appearance between
original frames (e.g,, a double line indicating end-of-frame vs a single
line now) and wonder if the version differences are what's caused these
glitches.

Thanks,

Rich


Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-15 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Rich Shepard  appl-ecosys.com> writes:

> 
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Rich Shepard wrote:
> 
> >  I'm continuing to prepare the slides for a presentation and have just
> > inserted a figure on one slide. Now I want to create a new slide, but Alt-p
> > shift-Enter does not work and the Edit menu does not display that choice,
> > only adding a sub-frame to the existing frame (alt-p Enter).
> 
>Also, if I click on the increase depth icon a new subframe is placed in
> this frame as well as the bracket on the left edge indicating increased
> depth.
> 
> Rich

Rich,

With the mouse next to the figure, check whether the environment drop down
list says "Frame". If so, change it to Standard and increase depth to make
it a child of the frame. (This will also allow you to change the
justification of the image. I like to center mine.)

Paul





Re: Beamer Class: Cannot Create New Frame

2016-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I'm continuing to prepare the slides for a presentation and have just
inserted a figure on one slide. Now I want to create a new slide, but Alt-p
shift-Enter does not work and the Edit menu does not display that choice,
only adding a sub-frame to the existing frame (alt-p Enter).


  Also, if I click on the increase depth icon a new subframe is placed in
this frame as well as the bracket on the left edge indicating increased
depth.

Rich