Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Can not reproduce on my 5K iMac 10.12.5 with 2.2.3 from DMG

el

On 29/05/2017 15:44, David Pesetsky wrote:
> Thank you for your reply.  This is Lyx version 2.2.3, installed from .dmg.
> 
> Focusing on the first of the two problems I wrote about:
> 
> 1. Open LyX:Preferences  (with no file open)
> 2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be any
> change on any submenu)
> 3. Click "Apply"
> 4. Click "Save"
> 5. all is well - the preference is saved and works
> 
> but:
> 1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
> 2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything,
> on any submenu
> 3. Click "Apply"
> 4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
> 5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its
> frozen state, that window turns black.  

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[David Pesetsky]

Yes indeed, it looks like this is fixed in 2.3(alpha).  Many thanks, looking 
forward to its official release.

-David


Le 29/05/2017 à 15:26, David Pesetsky a écrit :



Can you please confirm that it is fixed in 2.3(alpha)?



Relevant commit is 881b7ec67 which was not backported to 2.2.3 as it was 
assumed to be minor.

Guillaume

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[Guillaume MM]

Le 29/05/2017 à 15:26, David Pesetsky a écrit :

I have been trying out Lyx on the Mac over the past week, and have a repeated 
problem setting preferences.  If I try to apply or save any preference from the 
Lyx menu while there is a document open, a blank white box appears (as if the 
system is trying to show me a message of some sort, except there is no message) 
and the program freezes.  This is repeatable on both my laptop and iMac running 
MacOS 10.12.5, and the only way out is to force-quit the program.  I eventually 
learned that setting preferences only works if there is no open document.

Additionally, if I try to change a key binding that is already assigned to 
another function, the program notifies me, and asks me if I want to reassign 
the key — but if I say yes, I am dumped out of preferences and nothing is saved.

These look like bugs, but any information or assistance (am I doing something 
wrong somewhere?) would be helpful.

-David




Can you please confirm that it is fixed in 2.3(alpha)?

Relevant commit is 881b7ec67 which was not backported to 2.2.3 as it was 
assumed to be minor.


Guillaume

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[David Pesetsky]

No — no Karabiner on my system.

-David


> On May 29, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 05:41:16PM +, David Pesetsky wrote:
>> Dear Anders and Joel,
>> 
>> Thank you both.
>> 
>> Just to add one more piece of data.  To try to isolate what might cause Lyx 
>> to freeze for me but not for you, I booted in "safe mode", so my system 
>> would be running only the bare essentials.  Lyx behaved exactly the same, 
>> with the same freeze.
>> 
>> So though it sounds like the change in dialog focus that you are seeing 
>> might well be related to my more severe problem, I haven't a clue why we are 
>> seeing different behavior.  Very puzzling.
>> 
>> -David
> 
> David, you don't happen to have a program "Karabiner" installed, do you?
> Please check in the list of running applications to make sure (in the
> past some have had it installed without knowing).
> 
> Scott

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Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 05:41:16PM +, David Pesetsky wrote:
> Dear Anders and Joel,
> 
> Thank you both.
> 
> Just to add one more piece of data.  To try to isolate what might cause Lyx 
> to freeze for me but not for you, I booted in "safe mode", so my system would 
> be running only the bare essentials.  Lyx behaved exactly the same, with the 
> same freeze.
> 
> So though it sounds like the change in dialog focus that you are seeing might 
> well be related to my more severe problem, I haven't a clue why we are seeing 
> different behavior.  Very puzzling.
> 
> -David

David, you don't happen to have a program "Karabiner" installed, do you?
Please check in the list of running applications to make sure (in the
past some have had it installed without knowing).

Scott

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[David Pesetsky]

Dear Anders and Joel,

Thank you both.

Just to add one more piece of data.  To try to isolate what might cause Lyx to 
freeze for me but not for you, I booted in "safe mode", so my system would be 
running only the bare essentials.  Lyx behaved exactly the same, with the same 
freeze.

So though it sounds like the change in dialog focus that you are seeing might 
well be related to my more severe problem, I haven't a clue why we are seeing 
different behavior.  Very puzzling.

-David


On May 29, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Anders Ekberg > 
wrote:


On 2017May29, at 18:45, Joel Kulesza 
> wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Pesetsky 
> wrote:

1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything, on any 
submenu
3. Click "Apply"
4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its frozen 
state, that window turns black.

Thanks for the detailed steps.  Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce with LyX 
2.2.3 on OS X 10.12.5.  However, there is some differing behavior I experience 
which might explain why you see different things.

When I do NOT have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, Save, and 
all is well. This is also the behavior I'd expect relative to my next point.

When I do have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, *the dialog 
window goes to the background*, I retrieve the dialog, Save, and all is well.

I wonder if someone can track down why the dialog focus changes depending on 
whether a document is open or not.

Can’t track down why the dialog focus changes, but can confirm the behaviour 
that Apply with a document open sends the dialog window to the background (OSX 
10.12.5 here too if that is any clue).
/Anders

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[Anders Ekberg]

> On 2017May29, at 18:45, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Pesetsky  > wrote:
> 
> 1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
> 2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything, on 
> any submenu
> 3. Click "Apply"
> 4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
> 5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its frozen 
> state, that window turns black.  
> 
> Thanks for the detailed steps.  Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce with LyX 
> 2.2.3 on OS X 10.12.5.  However, there is some differing behavior I 
> experience which might explain why you see different things.
> 
> When I do NOT have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, Save, 
> and all is well. This is also the behavior I'd expect relative to my next 
> point.
> 
> When I do have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, *the dialog 
> window goes to the background*, I retrieve the dialog, Save, and all is well. 
>  
> 
> I wonder if someone can track down why the dialog focus changes depending on 
> whether a document is open or not. 

Can’t track down why the dialog focus changes, but can confirm the behaviour 
that Apply with a document open sends the dialog window to the background (OSX 
10.12.5 here too if that is any clue).
/Anders

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[Joel Kulesza]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:

>
> 1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
> 2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything,
> on any submenu
> 3. Click "Apply"
> 4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
> 5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its
> frozen state, that window turns black.
>

Thanks for the detailed steps.  Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce with LyX
2.2.3 on OS X 10.12.5.  However, there is some differing behavior I
experience which might explain why you see different things.

When I do NOT have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, Save,
and all is well. This is also the behavior I'd expect relative to my next
point.

When I do have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, *the
dialog window goes to the background*, I retrieve the dialog, Save, and all
is well.

I wonder if someone can track down why the dialog focus changes depending
on whether a document is open or not.

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[David Pesetsky]

Sending a second time, since evidently the version with attachments did not go 
through.

On May 29, 2017, at 10:44 AM, David Pesetsky 
> wrote:

Thank you for your reply.  This is Lyx version 2.2.3, installed from .dmg.

Focusing on the first of the two problems I wrote about:

1. Open LyX:Preferences  (with no file open)
2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be any change on 
any submenu)
3. Click "Apply"
4. Click "Save"
5. all is well - the preference is saved and works

but:
1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything, on any 
submenu
3. Click "Apply"
4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its frozen 
state, that window turns black.

I don't know if this message board will accept attachments, but I'll send 
screen shots, in case they get through.





On May 29, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Joel Kulesza 
> wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:26 AM, David Pesetsky 
> wrote:
I have been trying out Lyx on the Mac over the past week, and have a repeated 
problem setting preferences.  If I try to apply or save any preference from the 
Lyx menu while there is a document open, a blank white box appears (as if the 
system is trying to show me a message of some sort, except there is no message) 
and the program freezes.  This is repeatable on both my laptop and iMac running 
MacOS 10.12.5, and the only way out is to force-quit the program.  I eventually 
learned that setting preferences only works if there is no open document.

Additionally, if I try to change a key binding that is already assigned to 
another function, the program notifies me, and asks me if I want to reassign 
the key — but if I say yes, I am dumped out of preferences and nothing is saved.

These look like bugs, but any information or assistance (am I doing something 
wrong somewhere?) would be helpful.

-David

David:

Which version of LyX (LyX Menu -> About LyX)?  Installed from .dmg or compiled 
yourself?

If you give a step-by-step examples to reproduce what you're experiencing, I'll 
try to reproduce and will report back.

- Joel




--
David Pesetsky [pese...@mit.edu]
Head, Department of Linguistics and Philosophy
32-D818 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
(617) 253-0957 office   (617) 253-5017 fax
http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

[Joel Kulesza]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:26 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:

> I have been trying out Lyx on the Mac over the past week, and have a
> repeated problem setting preferences.  If I try to apply or save any
> preference from the Lyx menu while there is a document open, a blank white
> box appears (as if the system is trying to show me a message of some sort,
> except there is no message) and the program freezes.  This is repeatable on
> both my laptop and iMac running MacOS 10.12.5, and the only way out is to
> force-quit the program.  I eventually learned that setting preferences only
> works if there is no open document.
>
> Additionally, if I try to change a key binding that is already assigned to
> another function, the program notifies me, and asks me if I want to
> reassign the key — but if I say yes, I am dumped out of preferences and
> nothing is saved.
>
> These look like bugs, but any information or assistance (am I doing
> something wrong somewhere?) would be helpful.
>
> -David
>

David:

Which version of LyX (LyX Menu -> About LyX)?  Installed from .dmg or
compiled yourself?

If you give a step-by-step examples to reproduce what you're experiencing,
I'll try to reproduce and will report back.

- Joel