Problems with Python dependencies

2009-05-25 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, this weekend I took a chance to try several apps available in extras-devel. That included some SDL games that just showed how slow I'm getting, but that's not the point of this email. :) There were plenty of packages unable to install due to missing dependencies: all of them Python based. I

Re: Could not start Xephyr (Maemo 5 Beta SDK). Please help me to resolve. ()

2009-05-25 Thread daniel wilms
Hi, these are Xephyr related issues and they don't depend on the SDK you are using. In general these are smaller issues and at least the initial window should show up. I found a thread regarding the font problem [1]. And which system are you using. I've read that there might be some Ubuntu

Re: BeagleBoard and maemo

2009-05-25 Thread daniel wilms
Hi, I will try some more but as the OE kernel appears to work it might be better to try to get the Beta running on the Beagle. At the moment just the alpha should work on the beagle board. With the beta there are still some issues, which are not solved yet. Cheers Daniel

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 23:39 +0300, Antonio Aloisio wrote: Hi Although new-style Maemo 5 menus with sub-menus are discouraged, I don't think they should be forbidden. The current C API makes it very difficult to create them because HildonAppMenu is

RE: Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition Beta 1 released

2009-05-25 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, -Original Message- From: ext Cornelius Hald [mailto:h...@icandy.de] Sent: 22 May, 2009 18:39 Subject: Re: Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition Beta 1 released That's very good news! Big thanks to everyone who was involved. I'm using Alpha 2 at the moment and I really really do

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 22:09 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 19:00 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:08:08PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: The result now is: - gtk_toggle_button_new() is working but it displays the buttons as toggle buttons not

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:55 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 01:48:11PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: However, I'm was asking about the API and implementation, because the Fremantle UI guidelines are really out of our control at this point. The implementation can be

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Murray Cumming murr...@murrayc.comwrote: On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 23:39 +0300, Antonio Aloisio wrote: Hi Although new-style Maemo 5 menus with sub-menus are discouraged, I don't think they should be forbidden. The current C API

Re: Problems with Python dependencies

2009-05-25 Thread Soumya Bijjal
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 08:17 +0200, Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote: fwiw the dependencies missing included osso-gnomevfs-extra, python2.5-hildondesktop, python-mokoui python-support =0.90.0. Hi, osso-gnomevfs-extra is deprecated in Fremantle. In Beta SDK, libhildonfm2 was still depending

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 12:25 +0300, Antonio Aloisio wrote: While we are on the subject of Qt looking like Maemo without API changes, how are you dealing with the need for Maemo-specific API such as that in HildonWindow:

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 19:58 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Another thing is, that if you compare those two menus, you can easily see that the Diablo menu has more structure due to the use of separators. I'm not yet sure how to get back this structure, but I'll make some experiments. HIG

Re: BeagleBoard and maemo

2009-05-25 Thread Juha Kallioinen
ext Kees Jongenburger wrote: Hi For next week's hacking week-end I want to install maemo 5.0 beta on the beagle. http://maemo-beagle.garage.maemo.org/ only talks about the alpha. Is there already some more up-to-date documentation or would that be a nice topic to start exploring? Hi,

RE: BeagleBoard and maemo

2009-05-25 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
Hi For next week's hacking week-end I want to install maemo 5.0 beta on the beagle. http://maemo-beagle.garage.maemo.org/ only talks about the alpha. Is there already some more up-to-date documentation or would that be a nice topic to start exploring? Hi, sorry that there hasn't been a

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
The point is that we don't want to add new concepts to Qt if not strictly necessary. The idea I keep in my mind is We are going to adapt Qt to hildon, not rewriting hildon with Qt. I hope that the other people understand this too. Then we need to discard something... If we want to add the

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread David Greaves
Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 12:25 +0300, Antonio Aloisio wrote: While we are on the subject of Qt looking like Maemo without API changes, how are you dealing with the need for Maemo-specific API such as that in HildonWindow:

Re: BeagleBoard and maemo

2009-05-25 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Guerreiro Carlos (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote: Hi For next week's hacking week-end I want to install maemo 5.0 beta on the beagle. http://maemo-beagle.garage.maemo.org/ only talks about the alpha. Is there already some more up-to-date documentation or would that be a nice topic to start

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi David, IMHO most of the extended hildon widgets could be dropped. Hildon widgets like hildon banners instead need to be integrated inside Qt. Extended widget could be shipped in an external library if necessary.. but I won't care about them. About IPC Qt classes for system interaction.. I

Re: Problems with Python dependencies

2009-05-25 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On May 25, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Soumya Bijjal wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 08:17 +0200, Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote: fwiw the dependencies missing included osso-gnomevfs-extra, python2.5-hildondesktop, python-mokoui python-support =0.90.0. Hi, osso-gnomevfs-extra is deprecated in

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread David Greaves
Antonio Aloisio wrote: Hi David, IMHO most of the extended hildon widgets could be dropped. Hildon widgets like hildon banners instead need to be integrated inside Qt. Agreed - there are many Qt widgets which could simply be hildonised. I wonder about session management and hibernation for

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 25 May 2009 12:49:58 Antonio Aloisio wrote: The point is that we don't want to add new concepts to Qt if not strictly necessary. The idea I keep in my mind is We are going to adapt Qt to hildon, not rewriting hildon with Qt. A tiny caveat of which you're likely already aware of -

Re: Browser not launched, Maemo 4.1.2 SDK

2009-05-25 Thread daniel wilms
Hi Srinivasan, no you are not missing anything during the installation. The reason for this is, that the browser is not part of the SDK and cannot be started from the UI. The icon is just there to avoid corruptions of the menus within the task navigator. Cheers Daniel

Re: Problems with Python dependencies

2009-05-25 Thread Anderson Lizardo
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: There were plenty of packages unable to install due to missing dependencies: all of them Python based. I sent emails to the maintainers (it would be better to file bugs in bugs.maemo.org, maybe we can add a 'misc' component

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 19:00 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:08:08PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: (it might help you with the keyboard accelerators too). It did :) I adapted my code to look like the example which you provided and now the accelerators work for Diablo and

building/requesting python bindings ?

2009-05-25 Thread Attila Csipa
Just wondering after failing to locate a relevant Wiki page. What's the recommended way of getting a python binding for a lib into extras ? I'd do it myself, but I don't trust my packaging skills enough to do it right right off the bat and chances are that people might start using it so it's

Re: building/requesting python bindings ?

2009-05-25 Thread Faheem Pervez
I uploaded the newer libpoppler4 to Extras for ePDFView, and I did what Ed Bartosh had done before me with libpoppler2 - remove the python bindings because I hadn't time to make it play nice with scratchbox and force it to use python2.5. I'm without a Linux computer ATM but, if you really desire

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 12:24 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 19:58 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Another thing is, that if you compare those two menus, you can easily see that the Diablo menu has more structure due to the use of separators. I'm not yet sure how to get back

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-25 Thread Cornelius Hald
There's API to set the orientation mode of your window in hildon, but I think this is not yet in the SDK. You can get a more recent version from git: git clone https://git.maemo.org/projects/hildon I just downloaded a snapshot of the git repository, but I cannot find anything related

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:19:35PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: I just tried that, and indeed using hildon_app_menu_add_filter() groups the toggle buttons together into one row. Yes, that's the purpose of that function. As you say, only one filter group is supported, but that's by design.

Re: building/requesting python bindings ?

2009-05-25 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 25 May 2009 19:04:50 Faheem Pervez wrote: it, I'd be happy to reupload libpoppler4 with the python bindings (providing I can actually get them working) by the end of this week? That would be great ! If you need any python-specific help/testing with it, let me know.

Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu

2009-05-25 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 07:58:26PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Thanks Berto for all the good input and for explaining the decisions that have been made. Thank you for your feedback :) Another thing is, that if you compare those two menus, you can easily see that the Diablo menu has more

Re: BeagleBoard and maemo

2009-05-25 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Sonntag 24 Mai 2009 schrieb Kees Jongenburger: I installed the alpha SDK and was able to boot a root file system using the uImage in the SVN repository. After that I tried to recompile the kernel but the omap patch against the kernel failed to apply cleanly. The alpha kernel just worked

AppMenu, Filters and HIG

2009-05-25 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hello again :) To not make the other threads more cluttered as they are already, here's a new one. I'm trying to another window fully conform to the Fremantle HIG, but I'm not sure that I understand the paragraph on Filters: http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/hig/html/ch04s02.html The window is

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi David On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:00 PM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: Antonio Aloisio wrote: Hi David, IMHO most of the extended hildon widgets could be dropped. Hildon widgets like hildon banners instead need to be integrated inside Qt. Agreed - there are many Qt widgets

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi Attila, The python people is my mind too.. Don't worry I'm not forget about you guys. BTW please follow the ML so that you can help us in that side and you can sop us if needed... Some new Qt libs will be added.. they will be extra libs and there are not python bindings for them... Regards,

Autobuilder broken or what?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi there, I uploaded several time a new mysql package in the autobuilder queue without success. That's the command that I used. Can someone find something wrong in this command? I can't see the package yet in the autobuilder queue... then I really like to know if it's my fault or the autob. is

Re: Autobuilder broken or what?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Ok, It has just appeared! Problem solved. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Antonio Aloisio antonio.aloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I uploaded several time a new mysql package in the autobuilder queue without success. That's the command that I used. Can someone find something wrong in

Re: AppMenu, Filters and HIG

2009-05-25 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 22:24 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Hello again :) To not make the other threads more cluttered as they are already, here's a new one. I'm trying to another window fully conform to the Fremantle HIG, but I'm not sure that I understand the paragraph on Filters:

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 25 May 2009 22:37:10 Antonio Aloisio wrote: Hi Attila, The python people is my mind too.. Don't worry I'm not forget about you guys. BTW please follow the ML so that you can help us in that side and you can sop us if needed... Will do :) Apropo ML, I happen to notice

Re: AppMenu, Filters and HIG

2009-05-25 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:50:54PM +0200, Claudio Saavedra wrote: This is the purpose of filters, but you might need to find strings that fit well in the menu. Another option, if you don't find a good way to put all filters there, is to use a Change sort criteria button and pop all available

Writing Hildon Home Widgets in Python (Fremantle)

2009-05-25 Thread Anderson Lizardo
[cross-posting to maemo-developers and pymaemo-developers; feel free to strip one of them when following up] Hi all, I have just uploaded a new version of python-hildondesktop to fremantle, allowing one to write Home Widgets plugins in Python. There is no documentation for it yet, buy you can

Re: Browser not launched, Maemo 4.1.2 SDK

2009-05-25 Thread Srinivasan Kumarasamy
Hi Daniel, Thank you for your help. I would like to setup a complete environment like an actual device. Also when I try to launch 'Browse installable applications' in Application manager, I am noticing the following message in terminal window, hildon-application-manager[12188]: GLIB DEBUG

Re: Browser not launched, Maemo 4.1.2 SDK

2009-05-25 Thread Srinivasan Kumarasamy
Hi Daniel, Could vmware images help me to have SDK and a fully functional maemo device link environment ? If it could help, which image can i download from, http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php Since my Ubuntu version is 'Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex', should I use,

Re: Does Maemo's Qt look like Hildon?

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
'morning On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs wrote: On Monday 25 May 2009 22:37:10 Antonio Aloisio wrote: Hi Attila, The python people is my mind too.. Don't worry I'm not forget about you guys. BTW please follow the ML so that you can help us in that side

Re: Browser not launched, Maemo 4.1.2 SDK

2009-05-25 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi Srina, If I got correctly, what you are looking for is a complete emulation... Take a look of this: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2008/09/20/maemo-in-qemu-n8x0-emulation-presentation/ BR, Antonio On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Srinivasan Kumarasamy kksr...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Daniel,