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The meeting basically had 2 discussion points: #1 adoption of a kernel into cssu #2 upgrade of the toolchain used to build cssu As for the kernel, and the libc select/pselect bug that could be fixed with an updated kernel we still haven't come to a clear decision. freemangordon suggested to take the power kernel and strip it of unstable patches, which leads to the problem of how to review the patches kernel power contains. Another solution would be to take the current nokia provided kernel source and backport only necessary patches to keep a system that is as stable as possible. For this job nobody stepped forward though. I personally would prefer the second solution since it should be the users choice if they want everything (or even a subset) of the features/changes the power kernel brings to their device, whilst the select/pselect bug has to be fixed regardless if the kernel is as stock as it can get or if it's the power kernel. Here we reached no real decision, but if a maintainer for a patched stock kernel shows up it will be integrated quickly. The upgraded toolchain is if anything something for future. Cssu-thumb already uses an upgraded toolchain because otherwise it wouldn't work, so it could provide a benchmark of the stability of a chosen toolchain in the future, but there was no decision as to when or if we change the toolchain that is is used for -testing and -stable. Am 18.08.2012 10:38, schrieb ?? : afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with flaky inet :). ?? ? ??: Iván Gálvez Junquera ???: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] ??: maemo-developers@maemo.org ? ??: ?, 2012, ?? 17 19:16:10 EEST Hi I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed. I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the overhead of the project. Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP. Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this. Regards -- Forwarded message -- From: *Iván Gálvez Junquera* ivgal...@gmail.com ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=ivgal...@gmail.com Date: 2012/8/11 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] To: maemo-developers@maemo.org ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=maemo-developers@maemo.org, coun...@maemo.org ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=coun...@maemo.org Cc: ?? ? freemangor...@abv.bg ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=freemangor...@abv.bg, Christian Ratzenhofer christian_ratzenho...@yahoo.de ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=christian_ratzenho...@yahoo.de Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP. Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this. 2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk marmis...@linux.pl ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=marmis...@linux.pl I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Marcin -- Mensaje reenviado -- From: Marcin Mielniczuk marmistrz...@gmail.com ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=marmistrz...@gmail.com To: ?? ? freemangor...@abv.bg ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=freemangor...@abv.bg, maemo-developers@maemo.org ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=maemo-developers@maemo.org, coun...@maemo.org ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=coun...@maemo.org Cc: Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] Hi, I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems. I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10 only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth. I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from gcc 4.6 and fremantle thread, I'll send it later. I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to attend. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Marcin On Thu Aug 2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, ?? freemangor...@abv.bg ../servlet/sendmess?ac=sabto=freemangor...@abv.bg wrote: Hi all, Following the attached mail, I would like
Re: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with flaky inet :). Оригинално писмо От: Iván Gálvez Junquera Относно: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] До: maemo-developers@maemo.org Изпратено на: Петък, 2012, Август 17 19:16:10 EEST Hi I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed. I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the overhead of the project. Merlin1991,Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted?I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP. Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this. Regards -- Forwarded message -- From: Iván Gálvez Junqueraivgal...@gmail.com Date: 2012/8/11 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] To: maemo-developers@maemo.org , coun...@maemo.org Cc: Ивайло Д freemangor...@abv.bg , Christian Ratzenhofer christian_ratzenho...@yahoo.de Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP. Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this. 2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk marmis...@linux.pl I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Marcin -- Mensaje reenviado -- From: Marcin Mielniczuk marmistrz...@gmail.com To: Ивайло Д freemangor...@abv.bg , maemo-developers@maemo.org , coun...@maemo.org Cc: Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] Hi, I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems. I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10 only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth. I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from gcc 4.6 and fremantle thread, I'll send it later. I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to attend. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Marcin On Thu Aug 2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, Ивайло Димитров freemangor...@abv.bg wrote: Hi all, Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting of CSSU team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be help on #maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net , today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC. Topics to be discussed: 1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect() fix and evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version. Regards, Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon) CSSU meeting -- Iván Gálvez Junquera -- Iván Gálvez Junquera - Гражданска отговорност – Цените на компаниите http://www.sdi.bg/onlineInsurance/?utm_source=gbgutm_medium=txtLinkutm_content=home___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
Hi I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed. I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the overhead of the project. Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP. Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this. Regards -- Forwarded message -- From: Iván Gálvez Junquera ivgal...@gmail.com Date: 2012/8/11 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] To: maemo-developers@maemo.org, coun...@maemo.org Cc: Ивайло Д freemangor...@abv.bg, Christian Ratzenhofer christian_ratzenho...@yahoo.de Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP. Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this. 2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk marmis...@linux.pl ** I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Marcin -- Mensaje reenviado -- From: Marcin Mielniczuk marmistrz...@gmail.com To: Ивайло Д freemangor...@abv.bg, maemo-developers@maemo.org, coun...@maemo.org Cc: Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ] ** Hi, I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems. I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10 only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth. I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from gcc 4.6 and fremantle thread, I'll send it later. I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to attend. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Marcin On Thu Aug 2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, Ивайло Димитров freemangor...@abv.bg wrote: Hi all, Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting of CSSU team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be help on #maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net , today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC. Topics to be discussed: 1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect() fix and evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version. Regards, Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon) Attachment CSSU meeting -- Iván Gálvez Junquera -- Iván Gálvez Junquera ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers