for documentation on the
directory structure, you may not have copied the old list data into the
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They are the same file. The mm_cfg.py in /etc/mailman is a sym link
to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py.
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what does
ls -l /home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk/scripts/driver
say?
what does
/usr/sbin/getenforce
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that is what is failing, go figure, seems like it should work.
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recognized and hopefully will be better addressed in MM 3.0. If you have
very sensitive information in your archives you may want to consider an
alternate solution.
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On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 17:50 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
John Dennis wrote:
If your MTA can only handle one, or a small number of client connections
then each connection will be busy handling SMTP_MAX_RCPTS and other
client connections will queue up. If you have 4,000 recipients then you
have
of the mailman group
2) The php script invokes a wrapper just like the CGI does. This is
preferred for a variety of security reasons. It would not be hard to
create a new wrapper from the existing wrapper src code.
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will cycle through connections in a
serial manner leaving the rest of the SMTP client connection pool
available for other SMTP clients.
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alias file.
In your case you ended up with a mixed bag of aliases and depending on
which bag the alias was found in first you got the uid/gid of that bag,
hence the seemingly inconsistent behavior, which was in fact very
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which is probably far beyond
what you want to get involved with. Mailman's involvement with the name
change is minimal, it effects all internet services. The short answer is
for all practical purposes there can only be one machine who answers to
that name.
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likely
someone during initial testing/setup ran it in some other way. You
should then be fine.
Do verify the values of mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP, mm_cfg.MAILMAN_USER.
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ideas about this I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks a lot...
And did you restart Apache so it would reread its configuration?
Are you getting a 404 Not Found error?
Do you have any rewriting rules enabled which might rewrite the mailman
URL by mistake?
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to find the script listinfo in that directory because that is the
next part of the path and it will pass mylist as a parameter.
See the following doc:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#scriptalias
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? In particular the senddigests
cron job needs to be scheduled to run periodically.
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/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT for Red Hat
specific tips and to learn that 2.1 has a different way of being run
than 2.0 did, you'll now start mailman as a regular service. Cron will
be taken care of automatically.
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Thus Rule #2 follows from Corollary #1:
Don't use sendmail :-)
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some light.
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created a list and then changed the hostname you'll have to fix the
lists you already created because that information is embedded in the
list after creation. The mailman FAQ covers this topic in detail.
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of AddApprovedMember. See
Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py for an example of how to do this and the
various exceptions you'll have to catch and handle.
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mechanism.
Mailman lets its members set and get their passwords, YOU DO NOT WANT to
allow this with kerberos so you would probably also override
setMemberPassword() and getMemberPassword() to be a no-op. You would
also want to configure the site defaults to never send password
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mailman.
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in the comments in main.cf and the
LOCAL_RECIPIENTS_README file that is part of the postfix distribution
and available on www.postfix.org. You need the alias_maps because that
is where you've defined mailman's email addresses.
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the rule processing
outputting the matched URL, else continue to process and rewrite the URL
to the per list URL.
BTW, rewrite != redirect
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ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
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On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 14:23 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
I suspect the problem is the http configuration for the directory that
was originally posted omitted the Options ExecCGI which is required to
tell the http server it is permissible to execute cgi scripts in this
directory.
Oh, almost
You probably want to use the fix_url utility. Look in
PREFIX/bin/fix_url.py, you will find documentation at the top of the
file. Note, you don't run fix_url directly, its invoked by running
PREFIX/bin/with_list, the doc explains this.
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occurred is those are examples from
mail sent on the machine mailman is running on where everything will
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mailman-users list. You will need to learn what the SMTP server is on
proxiad.com and configure it correctly. Or, locate everything on one
server.
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NAME is the name of one of your lists).
Sorry, I realize this is a very python'ic answer but its the best I can
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, if you send
the mail from the same address you're expecting to see it returned in
from the list, you won't.
Have you looked in /var/log/maillog for SMTP messages?
Have you reloaded your aliases?
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. How do I create a newsletter/announcement/one-way list?
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On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 13:44 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:13, John Dennis wrote:
I tried testing with:
$ pwd
/usr1/mailman/mailman/cron
$ runas -u mailman ./mailpasswds -l testlist
It just exits. Nothing in the mail or mailman logs
little about how Plesk works
but I suspect it has a very strong interaction with apache configuration
which is why since Plesk is in the picture you need to consider Plesk
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On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 11:12 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
This is on Redhat Enterprise w/ Plesk - I suspect a nightly
up2date hosed something that mailman cares about.
Any thoughts on what to do to correct this problem?
One more suggestion: If up2date installed something that broke your
with how your MTA and web server respectively execute sub-programs.
Also, being a bit more specific with how the web interface is not
working properly would help solve your problem.
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are not group mailman then its setgid property is
not going to work the way you expect. For instance if its group list
then its going to execute as group list and the fact the files it
references are -rw-rw mailman:mailman won't help because they are
not in the group list. Make sense?
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-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 rmlist
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 roster
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18353 Mar 7 2005 subscribe
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checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/options
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the user
part of the address is correct it may include a domain part not
recognized by the server fielding the request. I would use the postmap
command to simulate an alias lookup and see what is returned and make
sure domains are not part of the alias or if they are that they match.
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invocation.
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exim_user = mail
hmm... very suspicious, looks like this is what is being picked up as
the execution context.
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to rebuild mailmans archive from the mbox file.
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executing. You can try piping a dummy message into the wrapper
with the same args as the user your postfix program runs as. Pay
particular attention in any of the logs to group mismatch errors. BTW,
did you check the system log?
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an answer to
Brad your question if you used resources appropriate to your OS.
If John Dennis doesn't show up shortly with an answer, I recommend you
write to Red Hat support and ask about large file support in Python.
Sorry, I was lurking because I don't have any definitive information
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##
##
Are these config lines sufficient or my bug is from 1) question?
Looks fine to me provided your path is correct. See above, you need the
site list, you probably have a syntax error in mm_cfg.py.
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On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 12:47 -0400, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 12:37 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 11:46 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
1) I'm implementing web-cyradm installation together with
mailman-2.1.4-83.13 on SLES 9.
Try
, but that is
the behavior.
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with the
rpm it won't mean you'll be free from any configuration issues but
you'll avoid a number of headaches. If you do go this route please be
sure to follow the instructions
in /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT.
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worked, the part that installed copies of join and leave did not. I'm
not sure why that part of the install failed but installing into the
build area and not being root during the install are likely culprits.
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On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 16:11 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
ouch. you're building in the install area before you've installed,
This probably was not clear because I omitted an important but somewhat
hidden fact, /usr/local/mailman is the default installation directory.
Had you typed ./configure
delivery of digests is implemented via a cron job that runs
the mailman/cron/senddigests script. If your digests are not being sent
the first thing to check is if the cron jobs are enabled. You can set
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--with-cgi-gid=apache
BTW, this is in the FAQ.
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loopback is 127.0.0.1 and its listening on 192.168.0.0 which is
192.168.0.0 (ficticious net addr).
If nothing is listening on the external interface, then is postfix
running? If so did you restart it after modify inet_interfaces to
include the external interface?
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looking for one that contains mailman.
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) waiting... ?
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.038.htp
Note: the 2.1.6 version has this fixed.
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such a message the solution is to upgrade the
selinux-policy-targeted rpm (or as a test you could put SELinux into
permissive mode, but you really don't want to run an open server in
permissive mode).
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On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 14:42 -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
Right, exactly. But what' the best way to do this with Mailman.
Pick a new location of your chosing, move the cgi-bin directory to it,
then edit your httpd ScriptAlias entry for mailman.
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you're concerned about exists, unless perhaps I've misunderstood you.
You might find this FAQ helpful:
6.16. Understanding group mismatch errors - how mailman implements
security
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/fix_perms might be helpful, the -f option will
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to a destination SMTP
server a whole host of things can happen to it that has nothing to do
with your server. Your best bet is to verify from the logs the mail left
your server when you expected it to.
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a bug you'll need the stack trace. Although the
stack trace is no longer visible it is logged on the system hosting
mailman, I believe in the mailman error.log file, its location will be
installation dependent (/var/log/mailman, /usr/local/mailman/log are
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script, you will have to locate this
file and edit it. However, if you can, it really would be better to get
your syslog working, you do want these errors logged and it really is
better to keep sensitive information out of the public eye.
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). Also, the
init.d script plays an integral role in managing cron usage for the
parts of mailman that still depend on cron.
HTH, if you still have problems feel free contact me.
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by the user/group the command is running under (what
user/group that is depends on how you did your installation)
What does
ls -l /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases
say?
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to
find what you are looking for rather than anything devious. To suggest
disingenuous lock in by Red Hat is utter nonsense.
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can su to that
owner and then perform the operation.
Also, the complete absence of execute permission is not something root
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for a trial 2.1.6 rpm (I've created the rpm but
have not tested it yet, you could be the guinna pig :-)
BTW, the RHEL 4 mailman rpm already has the security patches that
prompted the 2.1.6 release, but 2.1.6 has some other new stuff as well.
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technology advancement.
Adhering to the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) is a stated goal and
appreciated by many.
Most people prefer distributions that integrate packages into a coherent
system that follow established rules.
Individual package defaults are not a standard.
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object (e.g. files, sockets, devices, etc.). It
is a Mandatory Access Control (MAC) sytem which means it cannot be
defeated and offers great granularity (and unforuntely its own set of
new headaces as the wrinkles in the security policy are ironed out ;-)
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be surprised if
postfix when it starts gets file information on all its input files
referenced in main.cf and stores that information. If that information
was altered while postfix was running it would likely get confused
because it may be using id's that no longer exist.
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of would be to strace
(assuming you're on a system with strace, e.g. Linux) the postfix
process and seeing where the failure occurs and/or to look at the
postfix code that performs the lookup and see exactly what c lib
functions it's calling and what triggers it to return a failure.
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things up or would it be fine?
Yes you could do that, it is essentially the same thing as service
mailman restart if you're running on an OS that supports sysV style
service management.
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On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?
/usr/sbin/getenforce
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On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:36 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
John Dennis wrote:
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?
/usr/sbin/getenforce
Says disabled - whew. So the question remains, why no new list? I
suppose I
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 19:39 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 11:44 AM -0400 2005-05-25, John Dennis wrote:
I'm attaching our patch for this in case someone finds it useful.
The attachment was stripped. Could you post it as a patch at the
SourceForge page instead?
Yeah, I should
security policy that caused web based list creation to fail, command
line worked fine.
Have you looked for error messages in /var/log/mailman/error
and /var/log/messages (in /var/log/messages you especially want to look
for lines with avc)
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]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal:
unsupported dictionary type: hash
The following command will print out a list of supported map types:
% postconf -m
Is hash one of them? It would be surprising if it weren't, but this is
the first place to start looking.
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you mean web access to it).
Did you look for avc messages in /var/log/messages?
Did you look at /var/log/audit/audit.log? (may not be present)
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policy that is mated to the red hat mailman rpm's,
which you're not using, there is a tremendous opportunity here for
problems due to the mismatch. Let's try to eliminate SELinux as a factor
altogether.
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mail_owner parameter). Ths is an MTA issue, please consult
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On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 17:12 +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:08:40AM -0400, John Dennis wrote:
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 23:45 +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
Can someone explain what I need to do when I get this error - I don't
want
to have to re-run configure
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with an old distribution. The fix
is to either add
MAILMAN_USER = 'mailman'
MAILMAN_GROUP = 'mailman'
at the top of your mm_cfg.py file
-or-
upgrade to a newer rpm.
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