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-text parts with notes like
A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ...
Name: $filename
Type: $ctype
Size: $size bytes
Desc: $desc
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was rejected because is bigger
than the '
+ 'list max value ({} Kb), please reduce the
message to '
+ 'below {} KB and try again.').format(
+ test_size, mlist.max_message_size)))
return True
return False
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other means is a bug, but as has been announced
multiple times, most recently at
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-annou...@python.org/thread/D54X2LXETPMVP5KZNM2WP6Z6UOPJXSVD/,
Mailman 2.1 is end of life and `convenience` issues such as this will
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ceded
by `@` or `.`. Essentially what that regexp says is start at the
beginning of the string, match zero or more characters followed by `@`
or `.` followed by `arizona.edu` at the end of the string.
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Mark Sapiro wrote:
> The preferred method is to add the list address as a nonmember (which it
> probably already is, having posted to the list) and set it's Moderation
> to Discard.
That instruction is for Mailman 3 only, not Mailman 2.1. Sorry for the
ess to that group?
You can do that, but putting addresses as opposed to regexps in
*_these_nonmembers is deprecated.
The preferred method is to add the list address as a nonmember (which it
probably already is, having posted to the list) and set it's Moderation
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On 3/22/22 12:23, Dennis Putnam wrote:
Hi Mark,
What would cause the entire crontab to disappear? Would a system update
that modifies cron do something with non-root crontabs? I guess that is
a question for the CentOS folks.
A system update shouldn't affect user crontabs.
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On 3/22/22 12:00, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 3/22/22 11:47, Dennis Putnam wrote:
For some reason the crontab for mailman is gone. When I try run
crontab for mailman on crontab.in there is no error but when I run
'crontab -l -u mailman' it says there is no crontab. Can someone tell
me how to fix
as the mailman user?
```
crontab -u mailman path/to/crontab.in
```
or
```
sudo -u mailman crontab path/to/crontab.in
```
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? I'm running 2.1.15-30.
It hasn't changed, it's always been necessary. See
https://www.list.org/mailman-install/create-install-dir.html.
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this and then arrange to get the
files from the old host.
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krnet-owner. Is krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org a member of the list?
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As Odhiambo says, check Mailman's vette log.
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If first_strip_reply_to is Yes, the list address will replace the
Reply-To. If it is No, the list address will be added to the Reply-To.
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riginal Cc: will not be in the wrapper in many cases.
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On 2/22/22 09:26, Vako Nicolian wrote:
Mailman 2 sends emails in BCC to moderation. Is there a setting to
disable this option and have it approved immediately?
Set Privacy options... -> Recipient filters ->
require_explicit_destination to No
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On 2/22/22 10:00, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 2/22/22 05:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
I think in both cases you can return the login page with the address
filled in. Not sure if this would be easy to do in the code, but I
think this would satisfy both the "minimum effort for user"
On 2/22/22 05:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Mark Sapiro writes:
> There is still a subtle difference in that if the address given is
> a member, the login page asks only for a password, but if it's not
> a member login page asks for both and address and a password, but I
>
ord, but if it's not a member login page asks for both
and address and a password, but I think that's the best that can be done.
I have committed this change at
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1887
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will not receive the post from either list.
What you need is only one of those. I.e., regular_exclude_ignore for
admin has maintenance, or regular_exclude_ignore for maintenance has
admin but not both.
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d off
bounce processing have been removed, there won't be any more. Of course,
you can also remove the cron/disabled job from Mailman's crontab, but
this will leave users whose delivery is disabled bybounce who will never
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to the list. For this
example, adding l...@mail.example.com to the list's Privacy options...
-> Recipient filters -> acceptable_aliases may be a better solution.
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except for case. I.e., u...@example.com and
u...@mail.example.com are different. Also u...@mac.com and u...@me.com
are different, but the latter difference can be ignored by putting
`mac.com,me.com` in Privacy options... -> Sender filters ->
equivalent_domains in Mailman >= 2.1.19.
- there are several possibilities other than `Post to moderated
list` What is the reason?
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And if you're upgrading from source, you probably know how to reapply
local patches.
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On 2/3/22 13:16, Christian via Mailman-Users wrote:
Hello Mark Sapiro. On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 11:28:00 -0800, you wrote:
Can you post the headers of the message as sent from the list?
Of course. Here it is:
...
X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system
"crift.digimou
hosts? (same sender?)
Looking for any commonality between failures.
Today I saw two different mail hosts reporting this error.
But the question is was the poster or the poster's domain the same?
Can you post the headers of the message as sent from the list?
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On 2/3/22 09:45, John McDonald via Mailman-Users wrote:
Is there any way to remove "Reply" and "Reply To" from an email sent to a
mailing list.
On the list's General Options page, setting first_strip_reply_to to Yes
will remove any Reply-To: headers that are in the inco
p with MM 3 questions, please join the list at
https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-us...@mailman3.org/
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recipient for the -owner email and one with as many recipients as there
are owner/moderators for the delivery to them, and it's probably the
'.2.' message id.
On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:06 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/25/22 17:51, Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users wrote:
I may be looking in the wrong logs
seconds
Message is the notice to
the user
The first is the notice to
list1-owner and the second one is the delivery to the actual owner.
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There is also info about sent messages including message-ids in
Mailman's smtp log
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osmtpd which actually
handles the Mailman side of this connection. What version do you have?
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be. They also could be spam sent to the
xx-bounces@lists.xx address, but the MAILER-DAEMON sender makes
bounces more likely.
The asterisk says the message is active. Whats in the mail.log for
these? E.g.
grep 75D752B3E0 /var/log/mail.log
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diffs or upgrade
Mailman core - current release is 3.3.5.
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the From: or possibly Sender: address is in accept_these_nonmembers
or generic_nonmember_action is Accept.
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looking at? The list at, e.g.
https://example.com/mailman/roster/ doesn't show hidden
members. You have to look at
https://example.com/mailman/admin//members.
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of dealing with it?
If mm_cfg.py has
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
the listinfo and admin overview pages should be rendered in German. If
dpkg-reconfigure -plow mailman
doesn't set that, it's a Debian/Ubuntu issue.
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and replace
Hold in the pipeline with the modified (and renamed) Hold.py. These
latter methods only require adding a file in Mailman/Handlers/ and
adding things in mm_cfg.py.
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OpenPGP_signature
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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that the user posting the
options form is the same user for whom the CSRF token was issued. While
Mailman does keep track of case-preserved email addresses for mail
delivery, a user is identified by lowercase email so comparing lowercase
email is fine.
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against
the Subject: or Keywords: (if one) message header(s) or pseudo headers
in the message body. Each topic has a name and description.
Then users subscribe to topics via the user options page.
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{spam?} in the
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, my server was sending out spam
and I didn't know it, and I quickly found myself on Spamhaus XBL.
Any thoughts?
Dealing with Microsoft blocks is always a pain. It requires patience and
persistence, but if you persevere, they will eventually unblock you.
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post even if it is a member.
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https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel) you may or may not be
able to run withlist. If not, you'd have to go through the membership
list pages and uncheck `digest` for all the users for whom it's checked.
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filtering? If it is not your
list you need to contact the list owner about this.
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=== modified file 'Mailman/CSRFcheck.py'
--- old/Mailman
To: the individual recipient.
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: domains publishing
DMARC reject or quarantine, applying it to all messages shouldn't change
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that breaks the posters.domain
DKIM signature. Your SPF and DKIM signatures pass, but they are not
'aligned' with posters.domain, so they don't count for DMARC.
See https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC
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A CSRF vulnerability has been reported by Riccardo Schirone of RedHat.
This is assigned CVE-2021-44227. I plan to release Mailman 2.1.38 on
Tuesday, 30 November to fix this.
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or database level for the UI to reflect it, maybe? Thanks for any
help!
Specifically what UI are you looking at. If you are talking about the
listinfo page, they should be sorted. E.g.
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/
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o the listname-request address
and Subject: confirm d1c110e1babc8c9b34cd40a17c0ab8e0770e8617 (with the
possible addition of an Re:, Aw:, etc prefix). If you are doing that and
it doesn't work, I don't know why.
See https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel
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was released later the same day to fix this.
See the entire thread at
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/thread/I2X7PSFXIEPLM3UMKZMGOEO3UFYETGRL/
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On 11/12/21 4:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman 2.1.36 had a serious bug. Thanks to Joel Lord for finding and
reporting it.
I have just released Mailman 2.1.37 to fix that issue. It is reported at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1950833 and is fixed at
https://bazaar.launchpad.net
ttp://mailman.sourceforge.net/
Mailman 2.1.37 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
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/mailman/
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=== modified file 'Mailman/Cgi/options.py'
--- old/Mailman/Cgi/options.py 2021-10-18 23:56:42 +
+++ new/Mailman/Cgi/options.py 2021-11-03 19:02:21 +
@@ -346,6
the spam tag from the subject.
For the second case, I'm sometimes guilty of this myself. My MTA (via
MailScanner) tags subjects with {spam} or {disarmed} and I sometimes
reply to such messages without removing the tag.
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On 11/6/21 4:51 PM, Henry Yen wrote:
How about this: turn anonymous_list back off, set from_is_list to MungeFrom,
then add an MTA milter to delete reply-to and cc?
That would be an option except the OP's list is Mailman 2.1.12 which has
no from_is_list feature.
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ing Reply and Reply-All
to function as they would without the mitigation.
Anonymizing posts by hiding the posters address but not name has never
been implemented in any form.
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so has no real name
attribute on the list, the from will become
jdoe--- via Linux for blind general discussion
I.e. it will include the poster's username, but not the email domain.
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On 11/1/21 11:33 AM, Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to run mailman on 2 servers at the same time? What directories
should be shared between both servers and how to configure the mm_cfg.py?
See the FAQ article at https://wiki.list.org/x/4030621
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On 11/1/21 10:04 AM, John Lake wrote:
Thanks Mark!
I checked Defaults.py and it appears that the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL value setting is
"0".
So Mailman is already doing everything it can to help Sendmail. Anything
else has to be done in Sendmail.
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On 11/1/21 7:54 AM, John Lake wrote:
Thanks Steve and Mark! Which file has the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting? I
did not see it in mm_cfg or the .py files in the MTA directory.
If it is not set in mm_cfg.py, it assumes the default value from
Defaults.py.
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in the same domain, and I don't know what that is or if it is
configurable.
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with pruning archives. That script is
https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/prune_arch and it could definitely
change the ownership and mode of the .mbox and other files/directories
if run as root. If you run it as the Mailman user, it should be OK.
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until you put them
back.
If you have reason to believe some messages are unwanted, you can use
Mailman's bin/show_qfiles command to inspect them and then delete
unwanted ones.
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o brackets around the email address,
and no
quotes!).
I.e. don't put the commands in the Subject:. In the body put
set authenticate
set digest off
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@%s%s' % (self.internal_name(), extra, 'lists.',
+ self.host_name
# For backwards compatibility
def GetBouncesEmail(self):
And a similar patch to the get_site_email function in Mailman/Utils.py.
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On 10/20/21 11:43 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 10/19/21 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
There is an issue with my upload to gnu.org. Mailman 2.1.35
ral delivery. I never see the emails arrive there for
the moderators.
What do you see? in the Postfix log? Do you see a message arriving for
LISTNAME-owner@... and being delivered to Mailman?
What happens if you mail LISTNAME-owner@... directly?
Anything in Mailman's error.log?
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On 10/19/21 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
There is an issue with my upload to gnu.org. Mailman 2.1.35 is not there
yet. I am trying to resolve
r more information, please see our web site at one of:
http://www.list.org
https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman
http://mailman.sourceforge.net/
Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailma
update the lists.
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ion with private archives" of course has private archives enables.
Is there a chart that explains the differences between these styles?
Not really. All there is is
<https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/styles/docs/styles.html>
which mostly addre
work for a subscription or address change
confirmation because the bouncing address is not a member at that point.
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and to post a patch
for those who don't want to upgrade to address these issues. This is
scheduled for Tuesday, October 19.
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OpenPGP_signature
Description: OpenPGP digital
ation-ow...@example.com, but if
the sou...@example.com list has human members as well, this will mess up
notices to them.
Also see https://wiki.list.org/x/4030540 for info about how to use
Non-digest options -> regular_include_lists as an alternative.
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rror] [pid 7164] [client
197.232.81.246:1025] End of script output before headers: admin
I am a bit perplexed.
The driver script is being invoked with python3 rather than python2.
What does the command `python` invoke?
What options did you give to configure?
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o I would really appreciate anyone’s help with this.
Limiting access to the web UI and to user settings is almost certainly
not possible on a shared host.
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lists.
Is mailman handled differently than other lists?
Have you run Mailman's
bin/withlist -l -r fix_url mailman
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. If an
admin's address is not a list member, posts from that address are
treated as any non-member post. If the address is a list member, a post
is handled according to that member's moderation.
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On 9/22/21 12:00 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:05 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 9/22/21 2:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
However I am getting cron errors, and they are referring to the old path
(/usr/local/mailman) as opposed to mailman2.
Example:
/usr/local/bin
might I be missing?
What crontab is running these? You mentioned editing mailman's crontab,
but what about system crontabs in /etc/cron.d/?
And if you are running Mailman's crons from both Mailman's crontab and a
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an's data/ directory show and what is the
content of Mailman's data/aliases file?
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Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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gree with Steve. I think your web server is redirecting http to https
and the POST data is lost in the process. See steps 2 and 3 at
https://wiki.list.org/x/17892007 for more information on how to fix this.
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Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Califo
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