Re: [Mailman-Users] Siblings list usage ?

2016-09-26 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Thanks for your reply Mark, very useful, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/25/2016 02:32 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > On mailman lit configs, On event-announce@ I asserted default > > moderated bit on all new & existing members of event-announce@, & > >

[Mailman-Users] Siblings list usage ?

2016-09-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi mailman-us...@mail.python.org I recently moved 50 lists from majordomo to mailman (succesfuly, thanks :-). Question: Under majordomo I had various pairs of lists, eg event-announce@ Large list, low traffic, event announcements none but organisers could post. event-org@

Re: [Mailman-Users] stopping cross posting?

2016-10-11 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/10/2016 05:44 PM, Adam Morris wrote: > > > > Not sure if I'm using the correct terminology. > > > You are. > > > > People send messages to a list I run as well as other lists that I have > > nothing to do with. > > > > > > When people reply to the message sent to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Failing https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

2016-12-01 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/01/2016 04:48 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi postmas...@python.org > > cc: mailman-users@python.org > > > > I sent this to webmas...@mail.python.org per request of your web page > > > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: >

[Mailman-Users] Failing https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

2016-12-01 Thread Julian H. Stacey
of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Hi webmas...@mail.python.org > FYI > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Mailman-Users] compare lists setup

2017-03-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
jdd wrote: > Le 22/03/2017 à 01:38, Julian H. Stacey a écrit : > > "Hirayama, Pat" wrote: > >> I think that config_list is what you want: > >> config_list -o list1config list1 > >> config_list -o list2config list2 > >> diff list1config list2c

Re: [Mailman-Users] compare lists setup

2017-03-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
"Hirayama, Pat" wrote: > I think that config_list is what you want: > > config_list -o list1config list1 > config_list -o list2config list2 > diff list1config list2config Thanks to jdd for asking, & Pat for answering, I too am using this to debug a troublesome list list. Cheers, Julian --

[Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi mailman-users@python.org Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#discard_sender Reason: A mailman list member got his address book harvested by a spammer, twice spammed a mailman list I run, I removed list member, asked

Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-17 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Top posting is bad. Failing to indent prior text with "> " is bad. Corrected below: Gretchen R Beck wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi mailman-users@python.org > > Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

2017-08-20 Thread Julian H. Stacey
s what mail manager was) Some people are clueless thus forward without pruning. Some careless, some time pressured, & some 3rd parties will click Anything. Andy C's idea is good: Track a couple of cases in apache (or other httpd) logs . Cheers, Julian -- Julian H. Stacey, Computer Consultant

Re: [Mailman-Users] Purging old archives over 7 years old

2017-06-15 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Steven Jones wrote: > Hi, > > > I have a 12year old mailman server which is absorbing 650gb of expensive disk > space. Is there any feature that would go through each list's archives and > delete emails over say 7 years old? (or maybe even only 3 as we do a yearly > backup going back a

Re: [Mailman-Users] periodic shunts might have been undetected bad bounce_matching_headers

2017-08-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/30/2017 08:36 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> It appears the 'from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog' line is missing. > > > > Yes, it's missing. Well analysed without seeing it, Thanks ! > > So I patc

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-09-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
e Julian -- Julian H. Stacey, Computer Consultant, BSD Linux Unix Systems Engineer, Munich Reply below, Prefix '> '. Plain text, No .doc, base64, HTML, quoted-printable. http://berklix.eu/brexit/ UK stole 3,500,000 votes; 700,000 from Brits in EU. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
as a silly mistake ! > Now that I know, I'll consider > "upgrading" -- to the university-run lyris: I might as well outsource > the whole thing. Better adopt the normal procedure for free source projects: Write & submit patches to project, to fix your problem. Cheers, Jul

[Mailman-Users] periodic shunts might have been undetected bad bounce_matching_headers

2017-08-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
cd /usr/local/mailman/lists ; ../bin/check_db -a cd /usr/local/mailman/lists ; ../bin/check_perms The errors probably derive from a fumbled edit by me using an older mailman. I'll do more visual inspection on my most troublesome list. Cheers, Julian -- Julian H. Stacey, Computer Con

Re: [Mailman-Users] periodic shunts might have been undetected bad bounce_matching_headers

2017-08-31 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/30/2017 05:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > 2.1.24 has defaults 0 300. My most troublesome list had max 5/week = > > member_verbosity_threshold: 5 > > member_verbosity_interval: 604800 > > which may hav

Re: [Mailman-Users] periodic shunts might have been undetected bad bounce_matching_headers

2017-08-29 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Mark, thanks for reply. PS you'r doing a great job answering so many of us :-) Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/25/2017 06:29 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi mailman-users@python.org > > I hope I may have solved some postings being shunted on a few of my lists, > > nec

Re: [Mailman-Users] periodic shunts might have been undetected bad bounce_matching_headers

2017-08-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/29/2017 03:59 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Now I have: > > # Note that leading whitespace is trimmed from the regexp. This can be > > # circumvented in a number of ways, e.g. by escaping or bracketing it. > &g

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: ... lots of good examples ... well done ! I too dont think any complainer should have the right to kill a thread, just cos he/she wrote something they later wish to retract. Killing a thread would be gross abuse of all other posters' rights, & would invite

Re: [Mailman-Users] Possibly OT: GDPR and list servers

2018-05-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Andrew Hodgson > Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 17:22:12 + Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone in the EU come across the GDPR guidelines in the context of > Mailman? We are a charity and run Mailman as part of that with some high >

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-12 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 05/11/2018 04:55 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I think the basic inconvenient truth is nobody's going to come after you > unless you have money to pay the settlement. Not `Nobody' but `Very few' & then a major pain best pre-deterred. Most volunteer

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote Sun, 13 May 2018 05:39:27 +0900 > Dimitri Maziuk writes: > > On 05/11/2018 04:55 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > ... > > > > I think the basic inconvenient truth is nobody's going to come after you > > unless you hav

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-11 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 01:06:15AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I hate to disagree with everybody, but ... > > > > We need to get an articulare European lawyer, or at least find someone > > who has studied the subject. If you or employer have money & time

Re: [Mailman-Users] analytics tool for mailman?

2018-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Jeffrey Westgate wrote: > I have a list-owner asking if there is a way for us to provide him " list > analytics like number of posts over time, new members over time, etc? " > > I don' know of any, or how that would even work except for a horrible > stroll through the archive... > >

[Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

2018-01-12 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Is this live sample of an Uncaught bounce notification useful to forward to developers to extend pattern matching. http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1 Cheers, Julian -- Julian H. Stacey, Computer Consultant, BSD Linux Unix Systems Engineer, Munich http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

2018-01-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Sapiro wrote: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800 > On 01/12/2018 07:43 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Is this live sample of an Uncaught bounce notification useful to > > forward to developers to extend pattern matching. > > > > http://b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

2018-01-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:36:50 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 01/30/2018 07:48 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > Mark Sapiro wrote: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800 > >> > >

[Mailman-Users] list performance under add user load

2019-03-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi mailman-users@ When I created a petition signature collection site, mailman worked fine for my small list: http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/votes-sign Others since on this list asked if Mailman can support large lists (real mail lists, not petition signature lists as I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing the options page shown to you when you are not logged in

2019-08-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Flo wrote: > Dear all, > > I want to adapt the member options page when I am *not* logged in. For > example: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/debianflo%40gmx.at That would be a massive security hole, Or I do not understand what you mean. To simulate what you are looking

[Mailman-Users] max_message_size description suggested extension

2020-05-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi all, On my mailman server I have: General Options max_message_size 10K Content filtering collapse_alternatives Yes convert_html_to_plaintext Yes I posted OK to a list with Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type:

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > On Sun, 2020-08-30 at 14:29 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I wrote a long screed, full of piss and vinegar. But on reflection, > > clearly nobody is reading what I wrote earlier, so let's try pithy and > > dry. It's still long. :-( > > > > Chip

[Mailman-Users] Re: What to do when hosting providers frequently gets listed on an RBL

2021-06-06 Thread Julian H. Stacey
stinga wrote: > On 05/06/2021 04:20, Kenneth Kron wrote: > > My hosting seems to be permanently banned by Yahoo and today Comcast > > started bouncing them. > > > > I worked on the yahoo problem for a week with tech support and they never > > seemed to make any progress. Yesterday

[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> From: Jayson Smith Jayson Smith wrote: > > If my server were spewing > out spam, I ought to be hitting Spamhaus/SORBS/etc. spam traps left and Sorbs list the innocent to extort de-list fees http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/mail/sorbs/ -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.com/jhs/

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> Also: procmail is antique abandonware that no one should use in 2022, > but it can be very hard to replace. I have a massive time investment in working procmail rules. Use is not abandoned here. "If it aint broke dont fix it." ;-) Cheers, -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.com/jhs/

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT Blocking (was AOL list member not receiving list traffic)

2022-09-10 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> No known instances of members reporting us as spam. Un-realised reports are worse, where you only later discover your domain name or an IP number has been falsely listed. I searched for a tool to periodically run, to automatically scan with a list of RBL providers, whether any RBL has silently

[Mailman-Users] Re: Outlook blocked again, but strange response

2024-03-12 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> From: Lindsay Haisley > On top of this, MS Outlook servers are, and have been for a long time, > a real PITA, notorious for long time for blocking emails on very flimsy > grounds. To the best of my knowledge, there's no fix for this at the > list-server level. > > The bottom line seems to be