Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-20 Thread Alberto Abrao via mailop
On 2024-01-14 15:28, Alexander Huynh via mailop wrote: From a spam point of view, signing up for a domain is a barrier of entry which some may consider too much trouble. This may play into why there's a larger distribution of unwanted mail on the freely-provided `*.onmicrosoft.com`

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-19 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-01-19 at 07:03:35 UTC-0500 (Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:03:35 +) Simon Arlott via mailop is rumored to have said: On 19/01/2024 00:33, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop wrote: The blacklists seem to be blocking mostly the ones that send directly from @.onmicrosoft.com

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-19 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:35:42 +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop > wrote: > > >Am 17.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Paul Menzel via mailop: > >> With this in mind, did somebody compile a block list yet? Or should I just > >> create a whitelist? > > > >A block list does not make sense, as new

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-19 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> On 19/01/2024 00:33, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop wrote: > > The blacklists seem to be blocking mostly the ones that send > > directly from @.onmicrosoft.com addresses, which > > should make filtering easy if we can confirm for certain that no > > legitimate eMail has these

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-19 Thread Simon Arlott via mailop
On 19/01/2024 00:33, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop wrote: > The blacklists seem to be blocking mostly the ones that send > directly from @.onmicrosoft.com addresses, which > should make filtering easy if we can confirm for certain that no > legitimate eMail has these as the

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-18 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
es With Mission-Critical Email Needs > > - Original Message - > From: "Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop" > To: "mailop" > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 5:13:30 PM > Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 >

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-18 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:35:42 +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: >Am 17.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Paul Menzel via mailop: >> With this in mind, did somebody compile a block list yet? Or should I just >> create a whitelist? > >A block list does not make sense, as new domains are added

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-18 Thread L. Mark Stone via mailop
With Mission-Critical Email Needs - Original Message - From: "Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop" To: "mailop" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 5:13:30 PM Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists? Am 17.01.24 um 15:35 schrie

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-18 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 17.01.24 um 15:35 schrieb Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop: Am 17.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Paul Menzel via mailop: With this in mind, did somebody compile a block list yet? Or should I just create a whitelist? A block list does not make sense, as new domains are added continuously. It's just

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-17 Thread Geert Hendrickx via mailop
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 20:13:13 +, L. Mark Stone via mailop wrote: > Nonetheless, to be conservative, we've taken to blocking just > @onmicrosoft.com emails for the moment (no subdomains). It's strange you'd see anything from @onmicrosoft.com at all, as the domain itself has no MX nor A or

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-17 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
Seen some weird tenant.onmicrosoft.com in delivery/read receipts in from headers so that I believe Microsoft is using the domain itself for send/receive functionality inside exchange tenant config Colin Sent from my iPod > On 17 Jan 2024, at 14:28, Paul Menzel via mailop wrote: >

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-17 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 17.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Paul Menzel via mailop: With this in mind, did somebody compile a block list yet? Or should I just create a whitelist? A block list does not make sense, as new domains are added continuously. It's just too simple. I've had good experience with a whitelist, but

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-16 Thread Bradley King via mailop
t direction since > > > > > > I'm seeing > > > > > > zero legitimate eMail coming from hosts self-identifying as hosts in > > > > > > > > > > > > the "azurewebsites.net [1]" domain name in the HELO and EHLO > > > >

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-16 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
mailop.org>> > To: "Andrew C Aitchison" mailto:and...@aitchison.me.uk>> > Cc: "mailop" mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 6:30:22 PM > Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Off

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2024-01-16 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
ne, Founder North America's Leading Zimbra VAR/BSP/Training Partner For Companies With Mission-Critical Email Needs - Original Message - From: "Mark Alley via mailop" To: "Andrew C Aitchison" Cc: "mailop" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 6:30:22 PM Subject: Re

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-16 Thread Russell Clemings via mailop
___ > > L. Mark Stone, Founder > > North America's Leading Zimbra VAR/BSP/Training Partner > > For Companies With Mission-Critical Email Needs > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Alley via mailop"

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-15 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
Cc: "mailop" > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 6:30:22 PM > Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 > distribution lists? > > > > Ah, yep, thanks for catching that typo. > On 1/14/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew C Aitchison

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2024-01-15 Thread L. Mark Stone via mailop
th America's Leading Zimbra VAR/BSP/Training Partner For Companies With Mission-Critical Email Needs - Original Message - From: "Mark Alley via mailop" To: "Andrew C Aitchison" Cc: "mailop" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 6:30:22 PM Subject: Re: [mai

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Mark Alley via mailop
Ah, yep, thanks for catching that typo. On 1/14/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2024, Mark Alley via mailop wrote: This is anecdotal, but I think it illustrates even at a smaller scale the persistent problem Microsoft currently has with their tenancy. I did some quick

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024, Mark Alley via mailop wrote: This is anecdotal, but I think it illustrates even at a smaller scale the persistent problem Microsoft currently has with their tenancy. I did some quick perusal of the last month's data from our email logs, and out of a total of 22,473

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Mark Alley via mailop
This is anecdotal, but I think it illustrates even at a smaller scale the persistent problem Microsoft currently has with their tenancy. I did some quick perusal of the last month's data from our email logs, and out of a total of 22,473 external emails that contain a .onmicrosoft.com

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Alexander Huynh via mailop
From a spam point of view, signing up for a domain is a barrier of entry which some may consider too much trouble. This may play into why there's a larger distribution of unwanted mail on the freely-provided `*.onmicrosoft.com` subdomains. -- Alex

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
According to Microsoft, they use the "onmicrosoft.com" domain name for providing IMAP4 access, and as an SMTP fallback domain for clients who don't have their own domain name: Source:

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Russell Clemings via mailop said: >"You can keep using the initial onmicrosoft.com domain even after you add >your domain. It still works for email and other services, so it's your >choice." > >... or am I misunderstanding? > >I'm tempted to block *. onmicrosoft.com completely but

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Graeme Fowler via mailop
You can, yes. But would anyone trust it? I wouldn't. Graeme On 14 January 2024 17:49:36 Russell Clemings via mailop wrote: But https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/setup/domains-faq?view=o365-worldwide says: "You can keep using the initial onmicrosoft.com domain even

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Russell Clemings via mailop
But https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/setup/domains-faq?view=o365-worldwide says: "You can keep using the initial onmicrosoft.com domain even after you add your domain. It still works for email and other services, so it's your choice." ... or am I misunderstanding? I'm

Re: [mailop] Anyone else noticing an increase in spam from Office365 distribution lists?

2024-01-14 Thread Graeme Fowler via mailop
On 13 January 2024 14:07:46 "L. Mark Stone via mailop" wrote: Is there a list of "legitimate" subdomains of onmicrosoft.com somewhere that we can leverage? Wearing my "I have to administer a Microsoft 365 tenancy" hat - no. However, your mention of best practice is bang on. The subdomains of