Re: [Fwd: Re: Additional Hackfests - Brno]
I've pretty much committed to going to FOSDEM (though tickets aren't bought yet... I keep procrastinating), though I spose I could switch and go to Brno instead, but both would be pretty hard. Emily On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: If we do it in Portland, let me know soonish. :-) I think I'm hte only person on the ground there who can help set things up. I've already indicated that I can do Brno, although we should try to do it early so that tickets don't get too expensive. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Do people thing a marketing hackfest in Brno would be a good idea? We had some earlier discussion about it but folks never really said whether they were available or not. Nürnberg and Portland were suggested as alternatives. The positives to doing it in Brno are that other teams will be there and that it should be relatively easy to organize, as others have done a lot of the work! :) Are folks going to FOSDEM? We could do a hackfest or mini-hackfest then. karen Original Message Subject: Re: Additional Hackfests - Brno From:Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com Date:Mon, December 12, 2011 3:38 pm To: foundation-list foundation-l...@gnome.org -- Reminder that you have 2 days to touch base with the Brno organizers to organize any additional hackfests there over February 17-21. Brian On 11/30/11 01:26 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: The Brno Hackfest organizers have recently let the GNOME Foundation board know that additional rooms for Hackfest use can be secured for roughly $25-42 USD per day (depending on the size of room needed). Rooms can be available from February 17-21. However, the organizers need to reserve rooms no later than December 14th. To me, this cost sounds rather reasonable. So, if any GNOME projects would like to meet with the Docs and GTK+ teams at Brno, please discuss and make arrangements in the next two weeks. The GNOME Foundation would be happy to discuss covering the costs of additional rooms needed for any additional approved Hackfest(s). Please contact bo...@gnome.org if you have any questions or want to discuss organizing any Hackfest. For details about the current Hackfests planned for Brno: https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/BrnoDocs2012 https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GtkBrno2012 Let the board know even if you would like to plan a Hackfest at some other location or timeframe. There are currently no hackfests planned after February, so it would be good to start planning for more. I understand the Marketing and a11y teams have been talking about having a Hackfest. Have others? Brian ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Annual Report, GNOME Journal Quarterly Reports
Reading through the old 2010 quarterly reports, they honestly remind me more of journal articles than straight reports like the more recent 2011 reports have been. As a result, I can't help but to wonder if we could somehow combine the future Quarterly reports with the GNOME journal in some way, thereby giving them more publicity. Perhaps ask folks to write about what they/their project are doing for the GNOME Journal and then we could summarize that into the quarterly report along with more bare-bones facts for the board/donors/etc? Also, any status report on the movement of GNOME Journal to gnome.orgservers? Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2012 conferences...
I'd be happy to help put something together, and hope to attend at least a couple of conferences this year - I'll be at FOSDEM in february, and hope to make it to the Ohio Linux Fest in the fall at the very least :) On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: I think that's a great idea Karen, and am wiling to help in any way I can- Christy Eller On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 30, 2011 1:31 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: Do we have GNOME 3 presentations available on the Wiki? I looked on the Presentations page, but the only GNOME 3 talk seems to be the one Paul Cutler wrote before GNOME 3 was released. I remember Vincent having a really nice GNOME 3 talk but am not sure where it might be archived. I'm pretty sure that I uploaded mine, but it is only for 3.0. That presentation only discusses the design and some of the features. 3.4 should probably focus on the design of the apps that are coming like Pages. But also the development platform and how to write good apps in 3.4. That said, I think Stormy had a decent idea that we should probably only target tech conferences to talk about the development platform and participate in other venues to increase GNOME exposure to other group other than the tech and open source community. I agree with that! I was thinking that it could be good for us to put a solid current GNOME presentation on our website that we can link to and post around the internet, more like a sales presentation for those who don't know what we do. Then we'd also have the slides and be ready to go for in person presentations like what we're talking about here. It would also be good for ambassadors to have, if we can get that program going too :) Once we had it we could add updating it to our tasks in releasing new versions. (Though I'm thinking of this as something that's not release specific necessarily, as Stormy gets at too, but it would really need to be kept current). Would anyone be interested in starting to put that together from existing presentations? We're generating content for the annual report too, so the more people the better (we've got a heavy load)! I can work on it too, of course, and I'd be happy to be the face of it if others think that's a good idea (though I'd love it if someone else wanted to do it too) but it would be great to have a marketing team polished presentation :) Also, we had an Code-in student put together a GNOME talks page at https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTalks,which we could combine with the Marketing wiki. I love Sri's effort to be coordinated on conferences, we should collectively try to be present at as many of the major ones as we can. karen https://live.gnome.org/**GnomeMarketing/**MarketingMaterial/** Presentations https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations Sriram: What is your planned topic? Are you planning to discuss GNOME 3.4 improvements specifically? It might be nice to take a GNOME 3 talk and update it to discuss the progression of GNOME through 3.2 and 3.4 and updating the screenshots to better highlight some newer features. I would like to update the talk for sure for those who want to give it. I'm not sure how many I will give this year, but I would like to talk more about the development platform instead of going over the design, which I think has had quite a bit of exposure in the tech world. I opened up this thread to make sure we are communicating what we intend to do with outreach for this year and set plans and goals. sri Brian On 12/22/11 09:15 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I think we need to start scoping out conferences for the next year and figure out how we are going to talk about GNOME 3.4. There are a number of talks I'm thinking of presenting: 1) Open Source Bridge 2nd quarter 2012 2) Northwest Linuxfest 2nd quarte 2012 3) Linuxcon - wherever - 3rd quarter 2012 We should definitely talk about our marketing plans. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org
Marketing IRC Meeting/FOSDEM Meetup
Hi all, I think we've all agreed that another IRC marketing meeting is needed and I'm wondering when everyone is most available/unavailable next week (Wednesday/Thursday/Friday), in order to co-ordinate times, lets all use GMT to declare our availability :) So, I'll start, I'm in class for most of wednesday but have an hour from 5-6pm GMT and can be back on after @8pm GMT. Thursday I'm mostly free except for an hour or so from 8:30-930pm GMT, and I'm completely free AFAIK on friday. Also, those of us going to FOSDEM, did we ever pick a time to meet up/have a small meeting? Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand
Hi there, I helped man th booth at FOSDEM for much of the day on Saturday, and thought it went OK. The location for FOSDEM certainly left something to be desired, though that also applied for most of the others as well. I really don't think I'd have seen *any* of the booths if it weren't for wanting to find GNOME's on Saturday, though I also see why the put them out there - in the H-building it would have been *super* cramped!! As for the booth itself, a more interactive booth would be cool, though I'm not sure how to accomplish that easily and without major expenses. Another idea might be to print up 'special' GNOME people who are manning the booth or otherwise participating in the conference. That way we'd all be easily identifiable for anyone looking for info at the conference. Or do something else different/special to make ourselves easily identifiable as gnomies (I never did figure out what was up with the kilts debian, though it was entertaining and made them easy to pick out!!). The cloth GNOME 3 banner we had that was held up by tape on the window kept falling down and I've been trying to think of alternative ways to do it ever since.As I recall it had grommets so maybe we could throw a couple of suction cups w/ hooks on them in the box to stick to windows if that should occur again, or at least some stronger tape (duck/masking/etc). Different stickers with at least the word GNOME, and preferably gnome.orgor GNOME Foundation or something on them are needed. I like the foot logo, but for anyone who doesn't already know what GNOME is, its just a funny looking sticker. More 'stuff' in general - both free to sell would be good - what about different shirts, hats (winter hats with 'gnome.org' on the back and a foot logo on the front probably would have sold like mad, for example... I know *I* would have bought at least one just to wear there!!), etc. Also, even if we're not making much money off of some of these things, the cheaper we can sell them, the more we're likely *to* sell and thus get our name out there that much more, yk? As for shipping it around, all of the stuff that was there could not have possibly fit in 'the' event box as it was, and the bigger the box becomes the more unwieldly it becomes as well, so I don't think a new bigger box is the answer. How is the box currently moved around? Are we paying for shipping or are people simply checking it on their flights back and forth to different places, and then hauling it around from there? Is it too large to be checked as typical baggage? If thats the case, why not look into a large suitcase or two that could be easily checked as baggage? Emily On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, February 8, 2012 4:52 pm, Allan Day wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Hey folks :) On 06.02.2012 16:05, Allan Day wrote: Do we know if there is room in the box for those things? We do. And it doesn't. At all. There has barely been enough space to fit the nice nametags we had. That's for the v2 box (which should be called v3 because of GNOME3 anyway ;-) ) but the v1 box didn't have significant space left as I've last seen it in May. Your suggestions are very good though. We should try to figure out how to get things like more merchandise or roll up displays around the world. Some suggestions that need evaluation: Simply have another box with the additional stuff. But we'd need to find out: How much does such a box cost? Much much does shipping cost? And well, then we need an educated guess whether these costs are worth the expected promotional effect. If we want a better stand, we need more stuff for the stand, and that means we need more transport capacity. That means either another box or a bigger box. :) Is someone able to find out how much another box would cost to buy and transport? Do we know how many times a year the events box is used? Is it practical to have two boxes per event? I thought it was already something of a pain to store and transport the one? (though I'm of course very excited by the idea of a better stand!) I guess if we were able to, we could do it as a primary and secondary box where we could use the secondary box if we had volunteers/resources to move and use two? Is that what you were thinking? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org
Re: Gnumeric still available?
Obviously its going to take work to keep updated, however, pretty much anything we do to add content and give people a reason to come to the gnome.org site is going to take work. If we want to have a site that people find useful interesting, and give them a reason to keep coming back, we're going to have to keep working on it and writing new content. Nothing we do is going to both give new content be work free. Its just not going to happen. We can make it stream-lined and easier to keep up-to-date, but its still going to mean writing/creating new content. If we want to do something similar to what I suggested, we definitely need to get a back log of sorts started first with a half dozen or so articles written and in the pipeline ready to publish, so that if/when something happens and something doesn't get written right away we have backups to go to first before it becomes obvious that updates are no longer happening - give us a month or two to get new stuff written, while still publishing. I don't know, I guess I just feel like this push for new content is coming up against a wall of not wanting to have to actually *create* said new content, which means that in the end we stick with pretty much what we have, while still lacking new content! Either we have to accept having a gnome.org site which lacks content, and therefor doesn't really do much in promotion of GNOME, or we have to simply decide that we're willing to put the work in to make a great site with at least some new content constantly being created in order to promote GNOME. Right now, the consensus seems to be that we stick with what we have, even if that means not doing much for the promotion of GNOME in the long run. Emily On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: Hi- I think what Karen says is unfortunately the case, although I like Emily's idea. We don't have the contributor continuity that it would require to pull off a page that needs that much updating. My suggestion would just be to add more apps (with links to their own pages) to the page that already exists, highlight apps in the news section occasionally, and possibly link from their entry on the page to the article about them in the news. As far as the comment about Downloading GNOME, I totally agree. When I go to a web page for a download, I look for the word Download. When I first came to the GNOME page, it took me too long to figure out where to go to download GNOME. Of course, that could be my problem :) But, I have heard this comment from 2 other people on the marketing channel since then. Currently, you have to go from Discover GNOME 3 to Find out how to get GNOME 3. Perhaps there is a good reason for this. It would be very easy to change this if we all agree. I could put the word Download on the first page, or the second page- and I could also put Download in the top navigation, or whatever else is decided. Thanks for bringing it up- Christy On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, February 13, 2012 8:44 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: What if we kept the list (and added to it) and then rotated through it on a monthly (or even weekly) basis, highlighting one application at a time, with a top bar that says Coming Next week/month _ with the name of whichever application will be featured next, perhaps the same thing below only 'Last week's featured application ' and have each one archived, so that when you click on the name of the program you get whatever was written up on it when it was last featured. This would give us a reason to write short articles on each, and a way to ensure that they all stay up-to-date - as they rotate through the 'featured' section, we'd go back to each set of developers and ask 'whats changed/new/etc'. It would also allow for some of the lesser-known applications to be highlighted in turn, and thus allow them an exposure that they haven't had. Actually, as I think about this more, I think weekly (or perhaps bi-weekly) would be better than monthly, so that we could get through them all each year and thus they could be kept significantly more up-to-date. It would also give people a reason to come back and checkout the website more often. I love this idea, but I worry about its implementation and also keeping it up to date. I don't really know anything about how easy it is to create a page like this, but I know how tough it is to make sure you've got good current content for websites when you don't have a staff of writers. We could write a lot of these out in advance, so that we have a lot of safety entries for times no one feels like writing. It looks really bad when you've got a feature that relies on new content when there is no new content to be published! karen Emily On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, (list only, CCing marketing
GNOME Donations only through PayPal?
Hi there, I just donated to the Friends of GNOME Campaign and was dissapointed to have to make a PayPal account. Is there a way we could allow donations through Google Checkout or at least as a guest via paypal, rather than forcing everyone to have have an actual paypal account? I deleted mine a while ago in response to the wikileaks fiasco, and would have much rather not had to use PayPal at all, and I suspect I am not alone. Just a thought! Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME Journal Contributors
Hi there, my name is Emily Gonyer and I'm currently working with the GNOME Marketing Team on the GNOME Journal. You have all contributed to the journal in the past and we are currently seeking articles for upcoming issues. If you would be interested in writing an article again please let me and/or the Marketing Team know. Thanks! Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Donations only through PayPal?
Yeah, thats what I was always of the impression of, but it made me create an account in order to make a donation, unless I just clicked on the wrong button (which is entirely possible, I'll admit :p). I definetly thought it was odd though. Emily On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.comwrote: On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 12:44 -0500, Emily Gonyer wrote: Hi there, I just donated to the Friends of GNOME Campaign and was dissapointed to have to make a PayPal account. Is there a way we could allow donations through Google Checkout or at least as a guest via paypal, rather than forcing everyone to have have an actual paypal account? I deleted mine a while ago in response to the wikileaks fiasco, and would have much rather not had to use PayPal at all, and I suspect I am not alone. You shouldn't have to have a paypal account in order to make a paypal payment. That's one of the things Paypal actually boasts about. But, having multiple options are a good thing, because if Google Checkout were the only option, I would be unable to make a payment (since Google screwed up my Google account and I can't do any Google transactions for over a year now.) Paypal is also an issue for certain countries. Brazil is one of them, but that's probably more a international banking issue than payment method. Bryen Just a thought! Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME Journal
I've just been brainstorming how we're going to publish the GNOME Journal/Quarterly Reports going forward, and was wondering what everyone thought of doing it online, but also offering a downloadable e-book version (in multilple formats - PDF, epub, kindle, etc), perhaps even checking how we could make it available on Amazon other e-book retailers, for greater availability. What does everyone think? Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Journal
I guess I sort of figured we'd just lay it out in libreoffice writer or impress, in the order we wanted the articles, and then export it as a PDF. I'm assuming most of our articles are going to be written as odt files to begin with, so it shouldn't be too hard to compile them all into one big file. I'm not sure about how we'd go about exporting to epub, kindle, mobi, etc, but surely theres a program or two that can take a PDF or .odt file and export it to mobi, epub, etc. Maybe I should check into that a bit more. :P I hadn't really thought about translation to other languages, although that too is a great idea. Perhaps we should contact the translation team(s) and see what their thoughts are. I suspect if we could provide them with a simple .odt file and then allowed them to re-export to PDF that would be easiest, though I could be wrong. Emily On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.comwrote: I've just been brainstorming how we're going to publish the GNOME Journal/Quarterly Reports going forward, and was wondering what everyone thought of doing it online, but also offering a downloadable e-book version (in multilple formats - PDF, epub, kindle, etc), perhaps even checking how we could make it available on Amazon other e-book retailers, for greater availability. I think that is a great idea. During the early days of GNOME Journal, a lot of us wanted to do something like this. We wanted to write an article using tags, then extract them out into PO files where the text could be translated by the translation team and then we could then push them out as pdf, text, html etc. We in fact wrote all the tools, but didn't figure out a way to make it work on the journal itself. However, the of GNOME used them! Wordpress doesn't seem to lend itself to that kind of thing. I don't know. What does everyone think? How would you propose doing this? Also have you thought about translation into other languages? sri Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Journal
Well, even if they're written as plain .txt files they can easily be copy/pasted into writer or impress, or another authoring program (I'm totally up for suggestions, those were just the first couple that came to my mind), along with relevant screenshots, clipart, etc. I absolutely agree that we should shoot to have it translated into Spanish at the very least, and preferably other languages as well. Perhaps it would be worth recruiting someone to oversee translation specifically for the journal? Emily On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.comwrote: I guess I sort of figured we'd just lay it out in libreoffice writer or impress, in the order we wanted the articles, and then export it as a PDF. I'm assuming most of our articles are going to be written as odt files to begin with, so it shouldn't be too hard to compile them all into one big file. I'm not sure about how we'd go about exporting to epub, kindle, mobi, etc, but surely theres a program or two that can take a PDF or .odt file and export it to mobi, epub, etc. Maybe I should check into that a bit more. :P Let's talk about it. Maybe we can figure it out. I don't necessarily believe people will use libreoffice. We don't want to fixate on any one technology. It might be better to just to accept text. We had a number of conversations in the past regarding what format to accept articles. There might be something in the gnome-journal archives. But in my opinion, text is the most easiest. We went with textpattern mostly because we needed a platform now. But otherwise, were going to do something complicated. I think the best thing to do is ask Shaun. And see what he thinks. He's a great resource for this kind of thing and he has helped us in the past. I hadn't really thought about translation to other languages, although that too is a great idea. Perhaps we should contact the translation team(s) and see what their thoughts are. I suspect if we could provide them with a simple .odt file and then allowed them to re-export to PDF that would be easiest, though I could be wrong. You want to be able to reach out to the largest amount of people you can. We don't want to miss latin america which is really big into free software. They are committed free software folks and we should try to fit them all in. My two cents. sri Emily On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.comwrote: I've just been brainstorming how we're going to publish the GNOME Journal/Quarterly Reports going forward, and was wondering what everyone thought of doing it online, but also offering a downloadable e-book version (in multilple formats - PDF, epub, kindle, etc), perhaps even checking how we could make it available on Amazon other e-book retailers, for greater availability. I think that is a great idea. During the early days of GNOME Journal, a lot of us wanted to do something like this. We wanted to write an article using tags, then extract them out into PO files where the text could be translated by the translation team and then we could then push them out as pdf, text, html etc. We in fact wrote all the tools, but didn't figure out a way to make it work on the journal itself. However, the of GNOME used them! Wordpress doesn't seem to lend itself to that kind of thing. I don't know. What does everyone think? How would you propose doing this? Also have you thought about translation into other languages? sri Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Annual Report Status?
Hi all! I've been looking over the wiki for the Annual Report and am wondering how things are going for everyone on their respective 'owned' projects? Does anyone need help with something specific? I did a paragraph for each of the 'big international' events listed on the wiki yesterday ( http://live.gnome.org/action/edit/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2011/InternationalEvents), I'm not sure how much information we were looking for on each of these, if thats it or if we'd like a fuller article. If thats the case please let me know, and I'll start working on fleshing them out. Otherwise, I'm planning on working on a page re: Outreach Program for Women next. Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual Report Status?
Cool, aside from the wiki, does anyone have a list of who's in charge of/volunteered to do other articles? Are the respective teams working on their sections or should I just do for each of the remaining sections as I did with the Accessibility/a11y report? Emily On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: And I'm planning to work on the thank you pants article today! Christy On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Thanks Emily, This is a timely reminder that I have to put the Marina interview together for the report. I'll get to it this week. Cheers, Dave. On 02/25/2012 01:33 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: Hi all! I've been looking over the wiki for the Annual Report and am wondering how things are going for everyone on their respective 'owned' projects? Does anyone need help with something specific? I did a paragraph for each of the 'big international' events listed on the wiki yesterday ( http://live.gnome.org/action/edit/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2011/InternationalEvents ), I'm not sure how much information we were looking for on each of these, if thats it or if we'd like a fuller article. If thats the case please let me know, and I'll start working on fleshing them out. Otherwise, I'm planning on working on a page re: Outreach Program for Women next. Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual Report Status?
How about I combine the 'overviews' from 2010/2011 for each team (which are really just each years quarterly reports combined together themselves), and send them off to each group asking for updates/fixes/additions/etc, and then publish each of them. That way we ensure we have at least short status reports from each main group in GNOME. (This is basically what I did with the accessibility/a11y report.) As for the combination, that absolutely makes sense, should I/we contact GNOME.Asia GUADEC now re: how we're going to publish this or wait a while longer? If we're going to include their respective brochures for this year, do we still want/need their sections in the international events section? Or do we want to include the brochures along side/within that section? Emily On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, February 27, 2012 5:00 pm, Brian Cameron wrote: On 02/27/12 03:50 PM, Dave Neary wrote: IMHO, it's better not to have homework articles - if a team doesn't have anything compelling to write about, they shouldn't be in the report. +1 Though it is pretty sad if any GNOME team has nothing to report of anything done in the past 2 years, considering that's when GNOME 3 released. But we definitely should not be wasting our time waiting around for teams that cannot get their act together. Actually, everyone's busy, so I think it often helps to put something together from materials they've written already and then see if it can be updated and improved by the team! Annual reports should be good to read, but they also need a comprehensive overview of what our organization has been up to in the period, even if there are teams that are not excited about writing stuff up. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual Report Status?
Ok, so maybe what we should do is focus on getting one consistant design/theme for GNOME documents/brochures/etc for 2012, so that the Annual Report *looks* the same as the brochures for GUADEC GNOME.Asia, then when anyone looks through them they know instantly that they are all from the same organization... in which case I think we need someone with design skills to help :) (Which, I'll be the first to admit, I seriously lack!) Any volunteers? As for the Annual Report, what I'm hearing is a conflict somewhat in what the vision for the annual report is/should be. Do we want it to be an overview of what has gone on in GNOME over the last year (or in this case, two years) - ie the quarterly reports condensed into one report? Or do we want to focus on one or two 'important' areas of each teams work for the last year? I can see the benefits to each vision, and I'm honestly not sure which one is preferable, although I lean towards the second. The only real problem I see with it is time - if we want to get the annual report out within the next month, the second route will be much harder to accomplish. I think I should be able to read through the quarterly reports and hash something together for each team fairly easy in the next couple weeks, but writing completely new content/articles will take longer. Alternatively we can start contacting the bloggers as suggested by Dave and see if any of them would be willing to contribute, and go from there. Emily On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, February 28, 2012 9:29 am, Brian Cameron wrote: Dave: On 02/28/12 03:47 AM, Dave Neary wrote: I hope I understand you correctly - are you suggesting that the annual report is somehow a brochure we use for sponsor AB recruitment? Yes, this was my suggestion. To be honest, I do not care if they are are a single or separate documents. I mostly think they should be harmonized so that the documents all look like they came from the same organization. I think we need to consider how we should modify the way we approach potential sponsors so that we only need to approach them a single time instead of multiple times. Having sponsorship options that better take into consideration how sponsors could be involved with both events would be an improvement. The current brochures on the table make funding both events at a Gold or Platinum level extremely expensive, for example. Is this sensible? While I think it is useful for that, because it's showing the value of the foundation, I don't think that's its primary purpose. I see it as our annual magazine, an opportunity to spread news about GNOME far wide. As you say, the Annual Report has multiple purposes. I think that adding a donation form targeting individuals might be a good idea, but I don't think that mixing advisory board budgets with the annual report is appropriate. I do not understand your point. Including some information in the Annual Report to highlight how organizations can sponsor upcoming events is just useful information and need not dig too deeply into the advisory board budgets. In fact, advisory board budgeting is necessarily very high-touch, hand-holding, and I wouldn't expect a brochure to impact that budgeting decision at all. I see the GUADEC brochure as being aimed at potential sponsors not on the advisory board, or as an infoirmational document for advisory board members. Either way, it is just a way to communicate a good starting point for discussion. A way to highlight the sponsorship levels and benefits. Personally, I think there is value in just having a single document for people to keep track of. But I am not opposed to multiple documents if people prefer, though they should look more like they were designed by the same marketing team. Also, I'm not sure we're in a position now to have a one-off what's our budget next year conversation with most advisory board members. We currently have no sponsors for either GUADEC or GNOME.Asia, both events happening in the summer. That's not entirely true - two funders confirmed their plans to sponsor GUADEC some time ago, though it hasn't been finalized yet. That's a conversation to have in August and September, when the annual budget is being finalised, not in March. So the GUADEC brochure may well end up being a useful tool for advisory board members too. We need to approach our regular sponsors anyway before the summer to get sponsors for our upcoming events this year. In other words, we will need to seek sponsorship around the same time we plan to have the Bi-Annaul Report done. I agree with this though, and your ideas about the brochures - it would be great to harmonize them, and I think it would make sense to offer annual package deals to give discounts to sponsor everything together, and commit in advance. karen --
Re: Annual Report Status?
Sure, you can send it to me Christy, or just post it on the wiki. Either way though, please note that its done on the wiki :) Emily On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: I have completed an article on the Thank You Pants- where should I put it, and in what format? Right now it is an .odt with several photos. Can I send it to you Emily? Christy On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: Emily: As for the Annual Report, what I'm hearing is a conflict somewhat in what the vision for the annual report is/should be. Do we want it to be an overview of what has gone on in GNOME over the last year (or in this case, two years) - ie the quarterly reports condensed into one report? Or do we want to focus on one or two 'important' areas of each teams work for the last year? I can see the benefits to each vision, and I'm honestly not sure which one is preferable, although I lean towards the second. The same answer may not be the right answer for all GNOME teams. The production of reports is very dependent on volunteer effort, so I think it is good to have a process that gives project teams some flexibility. Ultimately we want to communicate that we are a vibrant and productive community with a strong, positive vision. To do this, we do not need to include updates from every team, but focus on the ones that make a strong impact. The only real problem I see with it is time - if we want to get the annual report out within the next month, the second route will be much harder to accomplish. I think I should be able to read through the quarterly reports and hash something together for each team fairly easy in the next couple weeks, but writing completely new content/articles will take longer. Alternatively we can start contacting the bloggers as suggested by Dave and see if any of them would be willing to contribute, and go from there. I would recommend using the quarterly reports more as a guide to better understand which teams we should be contacting and pushing the hardest to provide content. I also like the idea of contacting bloggers and doing a call for contributions and inspiration from the GNOME community. Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME News - Progress and Plans
I currently have 3 completed articles for the GNOME journal (two interviews one article), and am hoping for at least one more article more focused on development of an application or gnome shell or something, then once I get the stuff for the quarterly report we'll publish it all at once, and hopefully get a pdf/epub/etc out w/ all the same material around the same time. Emily On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: Hi- Thanks so much for your feedback- From what I understand, Sri and Emily have been working on Journal. Sri and Allan and I had a meeting about these news ideas, and Sri was very involved in getting the news-test site infrastructure set up. He indicated that he was open to discussion about Journal. Yes, I sent Emily the list of unpublished articles and she's working on them. I'm looking for more contributors. However, we will still need to work on content for journal and news and I don't think that has completely solidified yet. In my opinion though, we should just experiment and see what works and what doesn't. sri Just wanted to note that the feed that is in there is http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/feed/rss, which I threw in there to test it. The structure for foundation has changed, so that will change. I have a list of feeds, and will start populating that area today. Christy On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 04:33:51PM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: It might be nice for the sender, but as you say, it's not that nice for the reader. I would discourage that practice. I'd much prefer that interesting announcements get a news article which can point to the announce email (like on LWN). As long as it is on there within 24 hours, all is fine. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GSoC News Post
Here's a rough draft of a possible news release. Thoughts? Emily On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd throw this out there, in case anyone is interested in doing it. GNOME has recently been accepted for the upcoming Google Summer of Code. It'd be great to have a short news post for gnome.org about it. It can be very minimal - what GSoC is, what we'll be doing, when it'll be running, how people can apply. Get in touch if you want to help; I'm happy to act as editor. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein gsoc-gnome-news.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing calendar
Could we write a script to notice changes and send a note out to a specific mailing list? Emily On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: Well, after spending way too much time looking, I have discovered that there are many awesome Wordpress calendar plugins, but NONE of them send email reminders, EXCEPT for the Google Calendar plugin :) There is one pay version of an events calendar that does, but it is very complex and way overkill for what we need and missing some features we would want. I would be fine with using the Google calendar plugin (it lets you populate your calendar from inside your website, so you don't have to go to Google to use it), but I understand the objections some folks have. There are free online calendars that send reminders. We could link to one from the website, so we wouldn't have to remember a separate URL. Here is one of those: http://www.mymemorizer.com/ Wish I had the perfect solution. Other suggestions? Christy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME Annual Report Deadline
Hi everyone, just wanted to let everyone know that the deadline for reports for the 2010/2011 Annual Report is April 23rd. Please ensure all articles you are working on have been submitted by then! Thanks! Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
So, what your saying is that its really hard to get a good GNOME 3 install on Mageia and therefor it shouldn't be on the list of distros, correct? I get that. Theres a reason we don't list *every* distro on the page afterall! Maybe we should come up with a concrete set of 'rules' to be listed and then work our way through a list of distros and rule them in or out as we go. Emily On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 02:06:16PM +0100, Allan Day wrote: I want Mageia to be removed from this list the way it is now. You're not getting GNOME 3 with the stated instructions. As such, I don't want it in there. I'd be sorry to see it removed. Would it be possible for Mageia to host instructions explaining how to install GNOME 3, do you think? That is what I used this page for. On Mageia.org: no clue, have to ask around. I was more aiming for getting a good standard GNOME experience, but that is proving to be quite difficult. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
I think the reasoning for including Ubuntu on the page is two fold: 1) Its a very popular distro, and lots of people want to know how to get GNOME 3 on it 2) Its quite easy to get a good GNOME 3 install on Ubuntu - simply add the ppa and install (or in the case of the getting gnome page, just click :) On a side note, I think there should be a link to the 'getting gnome' page on the home page (gnome.org) without having to click through to GNOME 3, and then scroll/read all the way down through to 'find out how to get gnome 3' - if I want GNOME 3, I'd rather not have to load and read through mutliple pages just to be told how to get it. Currently, its slightly buried and hard to find, especially if you don't really know what your looking for. Emily (ps, sorry about getting this twice Akshay - I forgot to hit reply all the first time :p) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Akshay Vyas akshayvya...@gmail.com wrote: HI Allan Day I think you are right but still there is one thing confusing me that is adding ubuntu because ubuntu is not using GNOME3 completely they aren't giving GNOME3 in their default distribution not even in ubuntu 12.04 ,as far as i know there is a package which an ubuntu user can install to get the GNOME look (an additional package) so i completely disagree on adding ubuntu because i have never seen any GNOME thing after UBUNT10.10 like its written on fedora download page and on opensuse also that their default distribution is GNOME and i never see UBUNTU mentioned this after 10.10 so i request you to please confirm about ubuntu Regards Akshay On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 09:30:45AM -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote: So, what your saying is that its really hard to get a good GNOME 3 install on Mageia and therefor it shouldn't be on the list of distros, correct? I get that. Theres a reason we don't list *every* distro on the page afterall! Maybe we should come up with a concrete set of 'rules' to be listed and then work our way through a list of distros and rule them in or out as we go. Yes, hard if you do not know what should be done. There is no installer option that actually works (you can select GNOME, but you're not getting anything near the full GNOME, nor the default theme). Instructions itself: You have to install task-gnome meta-package and select Adwaita in gnome-tweak-tool. Missing stuff: By default not even Nautilus is installed. I'm hoping to create another package which does this for you, but not sure if I can complete it before Mageia version freeze. Also not totally sure on how to solve it nicely. So although you can have an excellent GNOME experience in Mageia, by default it is far from it. Initially the text on getting-gnome was minimal, as I failed to get a nice default GNOME experience I was planning to put the concrete instructions on the getting-gnome page. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Akshay vyas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: A11y @ Ohio Linux Fest
I am planning to attend Ohio Linux Fest this year one way or another - I have family in Columbus to stay with, so it shouldn't be a big deal at all. I'm game to help however I can, manning a GNOME booth or an A11y booth or doing anything else thats needed. Just let me know :) Emily On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.comwrote: This year, Ohio Linux Fest will be held in Columbus, Ohio September 28-30. I initially thought about proposing my A11y: Its about you! talk, but after reading the OLF website, knowing their interests in promoting open A11y, and seeing how people commented about a11y at Indiana Linux Fest last weekend, I thought... Why not go for something bigger this time? Go for the bang! My proposal: 1. We set up a very large booth that isn't focused on any one organization, but rather on open a11y in general. Booth staff would include reps from GNOME, Mozilla, FSF, Oracle, etc. Hands on demonstrations of what our software can do. 2. Propose more advanced talks, such as How you can test to ensure your software is accessible, or how to deploy a11y software in your environment. (I get asked this a lot!) My It's about you! talk really is more an introduction/marketing talk. It's good, but doesn't do enough to get more people to pay attention to a11y in their own development. 3. Organize a hacksession, perhaps either one of our traditional fix what's broken in a11y events, or fix what's accessibly-broken in non a11y-software. OLF has a community day on Friday which is more focused on workshops and whatnot. An ideal day to set up hacksessions before the main event on Saturday. I think given the combined resources of the various organizations and that a number of a11y contributors live somewhat close to Ohio, we could make a good go of this. And potentially make this a blueprint for organizing similar events around the world. Getting more people aware, interested, and involved, is a good thing, IMO. It would also create an opportunity to invite local agencies, school districts, etc. that work with people of various abilities. A plus for us to demonstrate our awesomeness to target audiences, and a plus for the event host to increase attendance to their show. I'm not proposing we do this instead of traditional dotOrg booths. For example, if GNOME community plans to have a booth, they should still do so. But we would be creating a traveling A11y Center of which GNOME would be a consortium member. Frankly, I think this would be a more likely success-story outcome than at places like CSUN conference. Thoughts? Bryen M Yunashko -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the GNOME logo]
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.comwrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:24 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com Para: marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Enviado: Martes 17 de abril de 2012 18:17 Asunto: Re: [Fwd: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the GNOME logo] On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:12 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, On 04/17/2012 05:43 AM, Karen Sandler wrote: This says Powered by GNOME and I know that some folks wanted us to shy away from using terms like that or GNOME Technologies, though I think it's also necessary to provide ways for folks to say that there are GNOME components involved in their products to help people understand how useful GNOME is. Personally I have no issues with Powered by GNOME - the stickers are destined to be stuck to a laptop after all, not a GNOME derivative. I think there is some confusion about what GNOME is. GNOME creates a complete Free Desktop solution. The GNOME Project also creates several software components in order to get this solution. Powered by GNOME can also be associated to other Desktop solutions that, though they use GNOME components, are not GNOME ( XFCE and Unity for example). The fact another projects choose GNOME components for building their projects is a good thing, even for the GNOME Project, but we want to communicate the whole GNOME experience to the users. As Dave Neary smarly points out, there isn't too much problem with a sticker Powered by GNOME because they are supposed to be suck to a laptop, not a GNOME derivative. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin Even if a GNOME derivative wanted to say powered by GNOME why would that be a bad thing? We get the benefit of increased mindshre where our GNOME logo appears in more places. If those derivatives choose to pay homage to GNOME by using such a phrase, more power to them. :-) Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list I'm with Bryen - I really don't see how having our name on compuers would in any way be a bad thing. I keep looking for someplace with reasonable linux stickers - I really want a tux something that says GNOME not just the logo. Actually now that I've checked their site I'll probably end up buying some of theris:) Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Team Q1 report/section
Hi all, just a heads up that I posted a brief account of the marketing team efforst over q1 today is apparently our last day as per Andrés earlier mail. Please edit/add to it as needed: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q1 Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: I suck
Hey Dave, Before we choose, why don't we go over what you have, and decide which would be better/more practical at this point. I'd suggest either publishing what you have on the wiki or putting it in a google doc. Or you can simply send me what you have - whichever you prefer - and I/we can sort through it and see what we think would be best. If it ends up being too much work to do the magazine type feature you imagined for the annual report, perhaps another option would be to publish it as a special feature on gnome.org. GNOME Journal has unfortunately floundered once again - I'm not entirely sure if it was ever updated to wordpress on gnome's servers, and I've never received any articles for it from anyone else :( At this point, I'm not sure a separate journal is practical, and lean more towards simply publishing material on gnome.org as it becomes available, then saving it in an archive by month/yr. Though I am certainly open to other suggestions. Emily On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi all, Yes, I suck. Way back in (so long ago I don't even remember which month) I interviewedd Marina about herself, her history in GNOME, her plans for WSOP and more. It was a great interview, and she put lots of time and effort into answering my questions, we did an IRC follow-up that added lots of colour to it, and my plan was to take all that material and do a really nice magazine-feature type interview, rather than just QA. Unfortunately, I never got around to it. So, to prevent myself from being a road-block to having the interview published in the annual report, I will remove myself from the process. We have a few options: * Print the QA which Marina answered in December and January as they are (with grammar checks and what not) * I can hand over QA and IRC logs, and let someone else have a go at doing the nice magazine-feature style interview-article. I believe I have previously sent everything in with a note just in case I don't get around to it, but I don't recall to whom I sent the interview. So - option A or option B? Emily, are you still guiding the Journal through its difficult birthing? Would you care to choose for me? Thanks! And sorry. Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: (2/3) Fwd: Re: Annual report - can I interview you?
Hi again, honestly, I think it'd be fine in the annual report as a simple Q A - theres a ton of great info here already, and aside from adding more info directly related to the OPW I'm not sure what would be needed. If its all right with you, I'll work on getting it edited for grammar/spelling/etc and stuck on the wiki as such in the next day or two. Emily On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi all, Email 2 of 3 re Marina interview for annual report. Cheers, Dave. Original Message Subject: Re: Annual report - can I interview you? Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:18:46 -0500 (EST) From: Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com To: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org CC: Juanjo Marin juanjomari...@yahoo.es, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com,ka...@gnome.org Hi Dave, Sorry about being a bit late with these. Let me know what time you would like to talk on IRC tomorrow (Tuesday) or any other day. Any time after 11am EST tomorrow should work for me. Thanks! Marina Q. Marina, you've co-ordinated the GNOME Outreach Program for Women for the past two years. Can you tell us how you got involved in GNOME yourself? I joined Red Hat six years ago to work on a social networking product after seeing a posting from the team's manager on LinkedIn. I had used Linux through my college years and at my previous job, but I didn't have any experience contributing to free software. In fact, I remember puzzling over why there was a choice between two options - GNOME and KDE - at the login screen of my Red Hat Enterprise Linux workstation at my previous job, and wondering how was I supposed to know which one to pick. Four years ago my original team was merged into the desktop team and I started working on GNOME. With many great GNOME contributors out there, it's uncommon for the desktop team to hire someone who is not an established contributor, so the fact that I ended up working on GNOME is a happy coincidence. Q. How did you end up co-ordinating the Outreach Program for Women? In August 2009, I received an e-mail from Diego Escalante Urrelo, on behalf of the GNOME Board of Directors, asking me to organize the outreach effort. Having just come from the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, it was very evident to me and others how few women there were in the GNOME community. There are just 4 women in this[1] GNOME group picture of about 160. Two other women are Stormy Peters and Rosanna Yuen, who worked for the GNOME Foundation. The third woman is Alia Merali, who joined her husband in attending several GUADECs and helped with organizing GUADEC in Barcelona in 2006. It was very exciting to me to have the mandate and the support of the GNOME Foundation to involve more women in the GNOME community. We started out by doing a round of introductions on the gnome-women-list @ gnome.org, putting together a page with mentors who can help women start contributing to GNOME, working with the FSF on creating resources and recommendations for encouraging women to get involved in free software, creating an issue of the GNOME Journal with articles by women, discussing the 2006 Women's Summer Outreach Program with its organizers Hanna Wallach and Chris Ball, following up with that program's participants, and encouraging women to apply for Google Summer of Code and connecting them with mentors. When we only ended up having one female participant in Google Summer of Code that year, we decided to create the dedicated internship opportunities for women. There were 15 and 23 women respectively at the GNOME women's dinners at GUADEC in 2010 and the Desktop Summit in 2011. So the outreach effort has definitely worked. [1] http://images49.fotki.com/v856/filevUZx/7142f/7/441267/7802004/081.jpg Q. Has it been easy to convince people to mentor projects? What proportion of the mentors are male? People who were involved in organizing the program were the original mentors and provided the initial participants with a reasonable choice of projects to contribute to. We have been encouraging people in the GNOME community to sign up as mentors throughout, but seeing the work of the initial participants was likely the most effective encouragement that got people to add themselves to the list. Because pairing up participants with mentors is one of the key components of the program, I occasionally had to ask people about mentoring specific projects. They were usually happy to help. For the first round, we started out with 8 projects and 9 mentors, out of these 3 were women. For the latest, third round, we had 18 project and 27 mentors, with 7 women among them. So about 70% of mentors are men, which is expected, since we need the help of everyone in the community in mentoring the participants. Two of the women who participated in the program as interns, Luciana Fujii Pontello and Ekaterina Gerasimova, have now become mentors. Q. Do you
Re: GNOME News
Meeting at GUADEC sounds like a great idea. When would work for everyone? I don't know of any BOF that I'm 100% attending yet. Emily On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Christy Eller iamchristyel...@gmail.comwrote: Hey guys- If you end up needing any help, perhaps with making the page look more newsy, I can help out. I won't be at GUADEC :( but am available for a short term thing like that- Christy On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.dewrote: Bonjour :) On 16.07.2012 16:58, Allan Day wrote: We can do this online or at GUADEC if there will be enough people there. Meeting at GUADEC seems like a good idea. There seems to be loads of room for BoFs. I think this makes an ideal BoF. Cheers, Tobi -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Christy Eller KVNF Public Radio 970-314-1840 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Plans for GUADEC
I'm hoping to publish at least a couple of articles about GUADEC while I'm there, most likely regarding keynotes and other talks, though I may attempt a couple of in-person interviews as well. On the topic of internet I'm hoping to have web access at the hotel, but if not I'll be hunting for places with free Wi-Fi. Failing that I'll revert to internet cafe's (look for places that say Red outside - network in spanish), which at least used to be all over the place. Emily On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, GUADEC is a great opportunity to generate publicity around GNOME. Marketing can also help people who aren't able to attend to stay in touch with the conference and feel like they are involved. It would be great if we could have a series of GUADEC reports posted on gnome.org during the conference. I'd be happy to write one. Does anyone else want to? Live microblogging would be good also, if we can manage that. One critical factor here will be ensuring that there's Internet access available. Does anyone have any tips for mobile broadband while travelling in Europe? Any other ideas for marketing activities we can do for the conference? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME News
I think we should aim for a minimum of 2 posts a week, and if/when there is more to post, not hesitate to do so. Whenever big events (ie GUADEC, GNOME.Asia, etc) occur, its quite likely that we'll have much more content to publish, and limiting ourselves to 3 or so posts a week just seems silly. It also sets ourselves up for irrelevance as we are likely to have time-relative material that only makes sense to publish around the event. Waiting untill afterwards simply because of a pre-determined schedule is likely to make it fall into irrelevance and not get published at all. During GUADEC large portions of our audience are likely to want releveant and up-to-date posts more so than at other times. Using a Google Doc for a rough schedule so as to ensure that we do have content during the 'dead' periods between releases, conferences, etc does make sense. I'd be happy to be an editor/reviewer on the site as I have been doing for the past week or so now. So far its been great, and everyone I've heard from seems to enjoy them. I haven't yet committed to any BOF, so the 1st sounds fine to me. What time? Emily On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Meeting at GUADEC sounds like a great idea. When would work for everyone? I don't know of any BOF that I'm 100% attending yet. Yep, a meeting sounds good. I'm fully booked for the first two BoF days (30th 31st of July), but could do the 1st if anyone is free then. Otherwise, we can try and organise something informally during the conference itself. There should be time. It might also be good to continue the discussion here - that'll give people who won't be at GUADEC (/ME waves to Sri and Christy) a chance to comment, and will maybe help to spur discussion when we do meet. So let me sketch a rough plan for how news could work... A key goal here needs to be keeping any system we have a simple and lightweight as possible, while still ensuring a regular stream of engaging and high-quality posts. Some ideas: * We aim to have about three posts a week, including a mix of short and long posts on different subjects * We have a set of guidelines on when to post (ie. mid-week, preferably during daylight for North America and Europe) * We have a small editorial team consisting of three or four people * The schedule for posts is planned in advance by the editorial team at a monthly IRC meeting * Each post has an assigned author and editor. It is the editor's job to ensure that the post is delivered on time and that it is checked for quality before posting. * If a post does not meet its deadline, we publish something else instead (hopefully from a queue of backup material) and keep it in a holding pattern until a space in the schedule becomes available * The editors maintain a document containing ideas for content, which anyone can add to. This gets reviewed at each monthly editorial meeting The existing gnome.org site provides almost all the infrastructure we need for this to happen. We can use it to store all our queued material (perhaps with a separate category for backup posts). We can easily use it to give people author and editor roles. Our list of post ideas can be a simple wiki page on live.gnome.org. The only infrastructure question is where to keep the publishing schedule. My personal view is that something semi-private to the editorial team is best for this; a Google Doc would work well, although maybe there's a free option that could work? Thoughts? Opinions? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [guadec-list] Marketing Plans for GUADEC
Video interviews would be very cool to do. I have a (standard definition) video camera I was thinking about bringing along with me, which we could use. Though I have no idea how to go about editing. Emily On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Chema Casanova jmcasan...@igalia.com wrote: O Mér, 18-07-2012 ás 11:24 +0100, Allan Day escribiu: GUADEC is a great opportunity to generate publicity around GNOME. Marketing can also help people who aren't able to attend to stay in touch with the conference and feel like they are involved. It would be great if we could have a series of GUADEC reports posted on gnome.org during the conference. I'd be happy to write one. Does anyone else want to? From the local team, we are really interested in this, and it would be nice this reports were written from people from the community, this is one of the tasks we would like to do in collaboration with volunteers. The same for uploading pictures from the conference. Fantastic! I wonder what the best way to organise this would be? Could you provide me with a list of volunteers, perhaps? And maybe we could meet on the first day of the conference to work out the details? ... Wifi will be available at the venue but with 250 people in the same room ... Thanks, that's really useful. Any other ideas for marketing activities we can do for the conference? We would like to prepare an area to do video interviews with speakers that could be published in the web. That would be great! Do you have video equipment arranged? Perhaps we could work together to draw up and plan and some interview questions? If we do make videos, it would be great to be able to quickly get them online. I guess that means we'll need to figure out arrangements for processing and editing. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
AGM Presentation Quarterly Reports
Hi there, I'm working on the AGM Presentation and have a couple of questions. 1) What events has GNOME had a marketing presence at over the last year? Currently I have whats on the wiki page under GNOME Events: FOSDEM, LinuxTag, CeBit, GNOME.Asia as well as the Montréal Summit and Linux.conf.Au - what am I missing? And does anyone have good photos from any of them? Also, should I include hackfests? 2) Are we doing the Web presentation along side marketing? I know Christy Elena have both done tons of work on it over the last six months, and want to make sure their work is highlighted at some point. If we're doing it together, what are the main changes that have happend? Also, our quarterly report is due, and I'm happy to write it but am unsure what has gone on over the last couple months. Can someone fill me in? Thanks, Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual report - ready to print (almost)
Hey all, just a few things: Page 5 in ...binary that not only to benefits application developers remove the 'to' after ..source code and binary Page 7, -third paragraph .. While the philosophy to keep things simply remains, change simply to simple -fifth paragraph ...to be official part of GNOME: add 'an' before 'official part of GNOME', also drop the -on- in ...next release and -on- specific modules. Page 10, -Boston Summit, 2nd paragraph: ..Gtk+?/WebKit, Clutter 2.0, and Gestures among others. - I'm sure I meant to determine which vs of Gtk+ was worked, on, I'd assume 3 at this point, though I'm not 100% on that. (2010) - , add a comma after Evolution ...Evolution Gstreamer, packaging GNOME in Debian and many others. Page 12, - change 'server' to 'served': The conference server as warm up for the hackfest and add a after served as so its served as a warm up, - remo 'to' : GNOME documentation team to engage with other fellows. ..'team engage with other fellows' Under 'Accessibility hackfest agenda' - add The and change 'Plans' to plan before the first line: The Plans for GNOME 3.. Page 15 - need a space between 2011 and the: In 2011the GNOME's outreach - change runs to ran: runs through March 15, 2012 - remove ? before 'LinkedIn': manager on ?LinkedIn Page 18: can we move the link (http://openhatch.org/wiki/Open_Source_Workshop) down to the bottom? Or put a [1] in and then the link either after the question is fully answered or at the end of the interview (moving any/all others as well). Page 20: link: mentoring howto: http://people.gnome.org/~federico/docs/summerofcodementoringhowto/; Page 21: 2 links : ..available at http://youtu.be/jHBN_rOZA* The 7th GNOME Forum and end of 3rd paragraph Otherwise it looks great!! Thanks for all the hardwork!! Emily On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org wrote: Commenting is easy so here I go: - Isn't Karen's signature a bit dirty? - On the cover, isn't Annual Report a bit missaligned? Or is it just a printing consideration? Also, the all caps looks a bit Arialish - Why not serif fonts for the main text too? Like in page 8 for quotes, I believe this is usually easier to read on big text blocks. (sorry, this is by far the naggiest comment) - On page 11/12 for Hackfests, the photo that is going to be cut in the middle... Literally cuts down the girl in the middle. Any chance to use another (the one with the laptops perhaps, since the middle is empty, although it looks cool on the left already)? - On page 19, the interview with Daniel has some weird spacing, I mean that there is a lot of blank before the title. I fail to see the reason, I suppose it is some aligment reason. Now that you hate me, I will go on and say that it looks really cool :-). Pages are well built, photos well used and the simplicity is really GNOMEish. Thank you for all the work, you are my hero 3 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: Hi! Designed and ready, now ready for proof reading before we print it. http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/annual-report.pdf - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Lunch
The Marketing Team is getting together for lunch at the cafeteria tomorrow (Saturday), if anyone would like to join us to discuss upcoming events/initiatives we'd love it if you came! Emily Karen -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Ohio Linux Fest
Hi there, I'm planning to attend Ohio Linux Fest (September 28-30, 2012) in Columbus, Ohio and am wondering if anyone else is planning on doing so as well. (Its the weekend before Boston Summit.) If so, we should be able to get an event box and a table/booth for GNOME. Emily Gonyer -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
This is extremely exciting news to me as this has been (and remains) my setup and what I commonly setup for others. Out of the previously proposed names I'd opt for Ubuntu-GNOME, as it makes the most sense and seems likely to cause the least amount of confusion. Emily On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com Para: bo...@gnome.org; marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca; Robert Ancell robert.anc...@ubuntu.com; Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Enviado: Lunes 13 de agosto de 2012 17:56 Asunto: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming At the Ubuntu Developer Summit in May, several of us that work with GNOME in Ubuntu discussed the need for a Ubuntu community derivative similar to Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and others but which will try to ship a relatively pure GNOME experience. That sounds really good ! . Users who love Ubuntu and GNOME will be much much happier :-) The traditional Ubuntu naming convention for these alternate flavors is Gubuntu but it seems that could cause confusion with the pronunciation of Google's internal distribution Goobuntu. We'd like to instead use GNObuntu. I agree that Gubuntu and Goobuntu are confusing, but I also agree with Sri that GNObuntu sounds a little bit like a negative assertion or something like that (Gnome NO (U)buntu). I'd prefer something without any possible misinterpretation. Just my two cent, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Re: GNOME foundation exposure in BSD Mag?]
We discussed this briefly on IRC, but what about just using the flier for the next round of the Outreach Program for Women - its still GNOME, something that we want to advertise more, and could probably be drawn up to the required specs without developing a whole new add in the next week or so. Emily On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, August 13, 2012 2:00 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: I think it's a great opportunity! Antoine suggests something very simple, which makes sense to me. Is there anyone here who has the time and would be able to work on this? I haven't seen any follow up responses here. When is the deadline again? Ok, the deadline is August 25th but Antoine says that earlier would be better. Do we think we stand a chance at making this deadline? I think simple is best for this so hopefully it wouldn't take too much time... thanks for following up, Sri! karen These are the actual file requirements, and I'm including his email below: 1. TIF format in highest resolution ready for printing (300 DPI) 2. 1/2 Page Vertical 4.0266 x 10.75 + bleeds (0.125 top and bottom, 0.25 right, 0 left) 3. 1/2 Page Horizontal 8.25 x 5.375 + bleeds (0 top, 0.125 bottom, 0.25 right, 0 left) 4. Colors CMYK 5. Data medium E-mail (For files up to 10 MB zipped), FTP 6. Fonts must always be enclosed if they are not converted thanks! karen On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:01:29AM -0400, Karen Sandler wrote: Hi Antoine, On Tue, August 7, 2012 9:45 am, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: Hi. As a regular contributor to the BSD Magazine I was proposed to put a half-page of advertisement free of charge in one of my articles (the ad does not need to be commercial). I was wondering if there was any interested from the Foundation to use this half-page to have some exposure... and if so who should I contact? Also let me know if this is not the right place to ask :-) Thanks! Thanks for thinking of us! You can contact me and the GNOME board of directors at board-l...@gnome.org. I'd love to hear more about what you're thinking for this... Hi again :-) So, the idea is to fill the content of a half page with whatever we want. I haven't though it through really, I wanted to have you guys opinion first. I have the requirements for the final file that needs to be sent but so far that's it. My general idea what to put some kind of 'advertising' (may not be the best word but well) about the Foundation and GNOME with maybe a link to the Friends of GNOME page or something. To be honest I'm sure there are people way more qualified in 'marketing' this than me; so anything is opened :) Note that it's not a _big_ thing, BSD Mag is a freely downloadable monthly magazine but I think it'd be nice to have some GNOME exposure in a BSD specific publication. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release notes: dislike of 'Shell' name
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 09/03/2012 01:43 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: IMO I'd rather ignore that a component like gnome-shell exists when writing the user documentation bits. I'd rather talk about concepts and skip the implementation details, meaning having categories such as: - Lock Screen - Overview Mode - Top Panel (or whatever the thing is called) - more usage of app menu - - General UI changes (gtk2+gtk3 stuff, theme updates, etc) - Message Tray - section per application names Only if something appears as an application in overview mode I'll use that (e.g. Disks, Files, Disk Usage Monitor, Image Viewer, etc). The internal name (nautilus) to me is meaningless for user bit of the release notes. I don't object to this approach. I think you have a point. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list That makes sense to me too. From a users' perspective theres no reason to go into details regarding individual packages. Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Publishing in Linux Format
Whats the deadline? What format (PDF, ODT, etc) do they want/need articles to be in? 550 words isn't that many, and certainly sounds do-able. Highlighting one application or event a month (ie, Boston Summit for October), with screenshots and/or event photos. Perhaps if/when we did an application we could also do a short interview with one of the developers of it. Also, I thought Sri had a couple of articles held back that we'd talked about using for getting the GNOME Journal going again a couple months ago, though I'm not sure what ever became of them. Emily On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Hey folks :) As we just had some experience publishing in a magazine and we now have the chance to publish regularly in Linux Format, the UK's first Linux-specific magazine, and is currently the best-selling Linux title in the UK. It is also exported to many countries worldwide. I think it's a great chance and I'd love seeing us having a page there every month. We'd have to produce about 550 words plus a couple of images. Every month. Will we have anyone being able to organise producing the necessary texts? It could be a GNOME app/shell extension of the month, a developer profile, or the commit digest fleshed out. I would love us to have a handful articles almost ready before we agree to take up on the offer we got. So who is to step up? :-) Cheers, Tobi -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: world of gnome..
Alex, I would be happy to help proof-read and edit your posts for english grammar - for postings both on gnome.org or on your own site. Emily On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! We will be glad to help in any way we can! I don't know what are the responsibilities of Marketing Team, but if they involve writing in Gnome.org pages, I don't think it would be a good idea. Our English ..hmm! It would be embarrassing for you to have grammar mistakes in your pages :) On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: Why don't we propose them to join the marketing team and help with the announces et all? maybe giving them a GNOME subdomain for best visibility? They are doing an awesome job from what I see! For all I know, they are watching every email on this thread. :-) And other threads also :) Cheers, Debarshi Thank you! - alex -- http://i.imgur.com/Z7jjX.jpg -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
2012 Annual Report
We're coming up on the end of 2012 which means we need to start thinking about the 2012 Annual Report. -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2012 Annual Report
Dave, good points! Off the top of my head, I can think of several things we have to talk about this year: GSoC/OPW GNOME's 15th birthday Hackfests/Conferences (FOSDEM, CeBIT, GUADEC, LinuxTag, GNOME.Asia, Boston Summit, OLF and a multitude of hackfests) FOG Accessibility Campaign The usual bug fixes, foundaiton member stats, etc. Emily On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, I hate to be a broken record... What do we have to talk about this year? What do we want to get people excited about for next year? Start with that, the contents of the report and the best people to write the articles may fall out easily. Cheers, Dave. On 11/05/2012 05:12 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: On Mon, November 5, 2012 8:59 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: We're coming up on the end of 2012 which means we need to start thinking about the 2012 Annual Report. Good thinking! :) How should we start? Last time we established a committee to run it, but maybe this time we should come up with key areas (or articles) to cover as a group and then ask for volunteers to own them and coordinate working with other contributors on it? What do you think? karen -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2012 Annual Report
Wonderful, thanks Juanjo! Karen, when does the 2012 Fiscal Year end for GNOME? As I re-read my last message it occurs to me that two big things we did totally slipped my mine - released GNOME 3.4 3.6!! They, and the releas parties for them all around the world should definetly be mentioned as well :) Emily On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: Dave, good points! Off the top of my head, I can think of several things we have to talk about this year: GSoC/OPW GNOME's 15th birthday Hackfests/Conferences (FOSDEM, CeBIT, GUADEC, LinuxTag, GNOME.Asia, Boston Summit, OLF and a multitude of hackfests) FOG Accessibility Campaign I´d like to write about the FOG Accessibiliy Campaign Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2012 Annual Report
That was my thought as well - as much as I love it on a screen, it'd be hell to print out... For that singular reason, I prefer #2, though I love the cover on #1 :) Emily On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 10:17 -0300, Daniel Galleguillos C. wrote: Hi all folks I've have been working in a sketch for the Annual report there is two designs options. These looks awesome, but constantly using a dark background would not make my printer's cartridge very happy (yes, I sometimes print such stuff and don't read on screens only). Not sure if that's a valid argument though when it comes to nice design. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME weekly roundup (was Re: community managers)
Sri, essentially you're talking about setting up a dedicated GNOME channel on IRC for this sort of stuff, is that right? One anyone could subscribe to and get updates when they are posted. If we do so (and I'm not opposed to) we need to ensure we have fresh content, else it'll become yet another empty message. One additionall thing we could do beyond simply posting them, would be to transcribe them. This would benefit us twice - it would serve to provide subtitles for the videos and could also be posted seperately for those with slow connections who are interested but don't have the time to download videos. (Yes, you guessed it right, this does indeed still include me. xD) Perhaps we could post the transcript to gnome.org as part of the news release about them. Emily On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, November 14, 2012 7:58 am, alex diavatis wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like: I love the idea of maybe doing a weekly audio recording of this week in GNOME. I could potentially do this as an interview with a different key person each week, if it's not too long. Perhaps a half hour each time? I'm wary of video as I think that will take a lot of work... slightly off topic: The youtube channel idea seemed pretty good but it was hard to manage. Mostly because I had a hard time figuring out how to tag posts for GNOME. Maybe I'm missing something there. Design guys are always throwing up video on their thoughts. A missing opportunity IMHO. Do others think this is a good idea? Alex, would you want to help with it? It depends. I would set it up almost like an RSS feed postcast. That would make it more automatic and something people can subscribe to. sri karen This week in Gnome...[ie new features] We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API] In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop] In Gnome 3.. [tech news] It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can rotate This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on. YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you will have a more personal connection with people. Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME developer/designer] sooorry :) - alex - alex On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote: Hello, First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the community team. After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a Public Relations team more than a Community Management team. Both do have some common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team. Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and externally. Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g: theming will damage our brand. Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all high profile GNOME contributors agree on this? Before communicating to the outside world that XYZ is a fact we need to at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own modules without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make people inside the community get along, reduce friction. As a community team another mission would be working on communication between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, arrogant or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication efforts have to promoted and praised. Just my 2 cents Cheers Seif On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or perceived actions. For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet again the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of maintenance and sustainability. I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision, because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for
Re: community managers
I think Dave's point was that we missed an opportunity to keep Cinnamon as GNOME 3 - because at one point it was GNOME 3.x with extensions piled on. They have since forked and are truly a separate project now, but that wasn't always the case. If we had made it clear that they their users were still using GNOME 3, we might have been able to bring them into the larger GNOME tent and kept them from forking and going their separate way. Just because someone is using extensions doesn't mean they aren't using GNOME 3, any more than my use of HTTPS Everywhere, AdBlock Plus, etc in Firefox Chromium make them different browsers. Emily On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM, William Jon McCann william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision, because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). Let's be clear then. Cinnamon is not GNOME 3. The discussion of brand was in relation to the stability of extensions and the impact on the user experience - and was taken out of context. Neither of these have led to missed opportunities. Continuing to misrepresent or misunderstand what we are trying to do and trying to say doesn't help us communicate our vision, does it? Jon -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: community managers
I think this comes down to a philosophical difference in ideas about what GNOME is, as it has before. Is GNOME really just GNOME Shell as we release it? When other people use our technology, in XFCE, Cinnamon, Unity, Mate, etc, are they still using GNOME? Do we want to completely segregate ourselves from them? Is that healthy for our community? For theirs? Or would we all be better off, recognizing that we all use many of the same technologies, and that we all have something to share. Wouldn't we all be better off, if the folks who work on Cinnamon and XFCE and Mate and GNOME Shell could all sit around and talk about their problems together, and find solutions that work for everyone? I'm not saying we should all combine and just produce one desktop - that's never going to happen. But recognizing each others' work as useful, as interesting, as important would go a long ways to repairing some of the relationships that have suffered. I don't really want to run Cinnamon, but I don't doubt that there are parts of it that I would enjoy and find useful. Why can't we find a way to share? A way to include everyone who uses GNOME technology so that we can all share what we do and learn from each other and make better software. Isn't that what GNOME has always been about? Emily On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Jon, On 11/15/2012 09:12 PM, William Jon McCann wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Dave Neary wrote: I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision, because as a project we are not sure what it is. I think this is the main thing I wanted to say. I have been involved in the GNOME project, albeit not as a core developer or module maintainer, since 2004. And I do not understand our vision. What is the dream that we're selling, and why should I be excited about it? For instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). Let's be clear then. Cinnamon is not GNOME 3. I understand that is your position. And I understand that as the maintainer and primary designer of GNOME Shell, you have a lot of weight in holding that position. I think it's a shame that Cinnamon users don't realise, for the most part, that they are using GNOME Shell, and the rest of the GNOME 3 stack. I think that it's a shame that we have apparently gone out of our way to put a barrier between ourselves and the Cinnamon/Mint guys by saying you're not GNOME 3. The message we're sending is, your help is not wanted, we don't like what you're doing. Personally, I think that it'd be cool to have our community be the community of people who can go wild on the platform - let a thousand flowers bloom. That the core GNOME project is solid and useful, but that we encourage experimentation, respins, freedom for our users. That seems inconsistent with the current GNOME messaging. The discussion of brand was in relation to the stability of extensions and the impact on the user experience - and was taken out of context. Neither of these have led to missed opportunities. Continuing to misrepresent or misunderstand what we are trying to do and trying to say doesn't help us communicate our vision, does it? I certainly misunderstand what you are trying to do. I don't think I know what the GNOME 3 vision is. Would you mind helping me understand better? Thanks, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Meeting Minutes
Hi all! We had a marketing meeting on a conference call today, with a few also participating on IRC (mostly Xan, and Fabiana Andreas Nilson who had problems with connections -if I missed anyone sorry!!). Deindre also participated - I think both on the phone IRC though I'm not 100% on that :) These are my notes/minutes from the meeting. If anyone else has stuff to add please do so! Introductions: Sririam Ramkrishna Karen Sandler Emily Gonyer Oliver Propst Allan Day Fabiana Simões Seif Lotfy (mid meeting) Friends of GNOME: Olivier: Web/Webkit Pros: Web is very important today, and our in-house browser could use some love. Web applications are becoming more important, and making people excited about us via a great in-house browser could be a boost. Cons: Webkit2 features - relating to privacy/security how to tie into a broader campaign? Difficultly getting our message across without a lengthy period of figuring out our message. Emily: Privacy/Security Pros: Buzz creation, something different and important to virtually everyone Cons: how to implement privacy and security in gnome design Seif: Usability Pros: user involvement, online buzz, we care about users. Cons: it would be better to do at a later date for various reasons - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. We're also hoping to have bi-weekly meetings going forward, as we all thought this one went well. Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting Minutes
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 11/30/2012 12:20 PM, Allan Day wrote: - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. I assume everyone has heard about this by now? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/ Tor will be a big battleground over the next year - with all sorts of repercussions for Net Neutrality, privacy on the net and the ability to avoid tracking, versus law enforcement and facilitation of illegal activity. I would be very happy to see GNOME take a strong stance in defence of personal liberty and freedom from tracking - I think there's a huge opportunity for us to team up with groups like Mozilla and EFF, who are thinking a lot about the issue of tracking on the web, and make a group effort to defend projects like Tor against persecution by law enforcement, with the end result of a practical erosion of our freedoms. The frame is being set - if you're for Tor you're for child pornography. We cannot allow the message to be set in this way, we need to tell another story, one of Big Brother and protecting our children from predators on the internet with projects like ghostery and collusion: http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html Who's with me? Should we reach out to Gary Kovacs and others at Mozilla and EFF to see if we can't help create an Alliance for Personal Internet Liberty? Cheers, Dave. I'm with you 100% Dave! I would love to see us partner with Tor, EFF, Mozilla, etc on such a project to speak out and show how we are working to protect our and everyone elses' freedoms online. We could make the FoG Campaign about Freedom Privacy Online which is what we are really talking about. The biggest 'disadvantage' to Tor as I understand it comes from the hit you take in overall network performance, which can be considerable, and is highly variable depending on the speeds you get through the nodes Tor chooses. If you get unlucky and hit a node run by somebody with a crappy connection like me, it can be considerable :) But sometimes the privacy it provides trumps the hit in speed you take - and for many people who are 'just surfing around' its not a big deal. HTH! Emily -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: FOSDEM 2013 - GNOME Stand
Tobi, I am hoping to attend FOSDEM again this year - I'm part of the committe for the Community Development and Marketing devroom, and am checking prices for flights hotels now... have you heard back from anyone else about the stand? I'd be happy to help out with the stand again :) Who else is planning to attend? Emily On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Hey folks :-) Could anyone register GNOME for a stand? It's seems to be quite simple: https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_stands/ We could also try to have some prominent GNOME talks placed: https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_main_speakers/ Does anybody have an idea for a great speaker? It'd be cool, if you could use the wiki page over here this year: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013 Will anyone organise a GNOME Beer Event? Cheers, Tobi -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
I have to say I that I largely agree with datamations point that its marketing that GNOME needs most now. GNOME needs us to be communicating what we're doing, when we're doing it and why - not just to ourselves, but to the wider public as well. The irreparable harm quote in LinuxInsider comes from someone I've actually met by the way. I met Kevin O'Brien at Ohio Linux Fest and am scheduled to go meet up with him and his LUG in Ann Arbor, MI in March and do a small presentation on GNOME (though I may ask to postpone that till April when both the weather will (hopefully) be better and 3.8 will be out). From my (admittedly brief) conversations with him at OLF he seemed like a nice guy, though like many he didn't seem to know much about GNOME 3 - though he was interested enough in GNOME to invite me up there. Emily On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl Para: marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Enviado: Miércoles 5 de diciembre de 2012 11:05 Asunto: Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05 On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. LOTR and Journalism 2.0 :-P Just to note that the best way to react is to focus in the what we want to communicate and not spend time with counter-arguments. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:05 am, Brett Legree wrote: Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. Great - I'll contact Greg! I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). Wow! You should write this up in more detail then this can be some of the content we use :) I agree - that sounds very cool! *I* certainly want to read about it :) Emily karen So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Awesome Olav! Sri: Tuesday or Thursday work fine for me too :) On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 01:49:10PM +, Juanjo Marín wrote: b) Fedora 18 + Ekiga 4 + ekiga.net free account (https://www.ekiga.net/?page=register) Use the Configuration Assistant You only need to add your user and password you don't need to sign up a call out account use default options Use the dialpad and enter sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com enter the pin when you're asked for How did you enter the PIN? I used Ekiga 4.0.0, but couldn't figure out how to enter it. I didn't add any account though.. seems to connect without it just fine. Wondering if that is the reason why I cannot enter a PIN… Figured it out. In preferences under SIP settings, make sure DTMF mode is set to RFC2833. Then you can use the numbers in the dialpad to enter the PIN. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 12/12/12
Softpedia picked up Matthias' post on GNOME Legacy: http://news.softpedia.com/news/GNOME-Legacy-Will-Replace-GNOME-Fallback-Mode-313237.shtml On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dave Neary dne...@free.fr wrote: Anti-ambiguity date! Slow news week for GNOME this week... tail end of F18 ships with MATE news. Also, bonus article on an adopt-a-gnome scheme! Dave. ZDNet: MATE (Gnome 2) on the way to Fedora 18: http://www.zdnet.com/mate-gnome-2-on-the-way-to-fedora-18-708165/ Waterloo Cedar Falls Courier: Adopt-a-Gnome program to raise funds for arboretum: http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/adopt-a-gnome-program-to-raise-funds-for-arboretum/article_84fcc4f0-42bb-11e2-9976-001a4bcf887a.html?comment_form=true -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@free.fr / Jabber: nea...@gmail.com Ph: +33 950 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Minutes December 13, 2012
Minutes from Marketing Tele-Conference, December 13, 2013 Participants: Sririm Ramkrishna, Karen Sandler, Andreas Nilsson, Emily Gonyer, Alan Day, Olav Vitters, Flavia Weisghizzi Topic: Community Outreach/Development Sri: Theres a common wisdom that GNOME will throw out features and are unfriendly. We've let others tell our story for us. As a result, most of the press we receive is negative, focusing on GNOME 3's failures and shortcomings. Andreas: Whats the biggest drawback of this perception? Emily/Karen: Because the result is many people who have simply never seen GNOME 3, and are surprised by it when they do. Because of the perception we are limiting both our development and user bases. Karen: Addressing these myths is hard, though there may be an opportunity coming up with Vincent Untz's “Has the GNOME community gone crazy?” talk at FOSDEM. Sri: We need to have people on Twitter during the talk addressing comments on Twitter in real time. Overall we need to be more vocal about what we're doing. Need to expand outside of IRC mailinglists. Forums are going well, but input from real GNOME developers/contributors would help them expand much more rapidly. Be open to outside ideas – express more clearly that we want to hear from outside users developers. Also be open to outside contributors and accepting of whatever they have to share. Sri: How do we continue to support our theme/design while being open to outside ideas? By promoting extensions? Karen: We have this message/theme of 'Simple by default. Configurable by design.' - extensions are how we make it configurable and we should be promoting them. But we need to figure out the issues with extensions and any infrastructure issues related to them. Sri: Back to communication – we have problems as well communicating what we're doing to each other. Emily: Should we revive the GNOME Ambassadors program? Sri: Rename my 'community outreach' to GNOME Ambassadors – will look into it. Olav: We should continue having these meetings – they are helpful. Emily: Should look into including the release team other key members of GNOME community in these meetings. Action items: Everyone should be participating as much as they can. Look at the design area of the forums, as well as at re-doing their theme. (Andreas) Talk with Vincent Karen about talking to the press. (Karen) Look into the GNOME Ambassadors program. (Sri) Setup a regular call (bi-monthly? Around releases?) with the release marketing teams to better coordinate between them. (Karen) Next meetings topic: Friends of GNOME campaign on Privacy Security. -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Presence at SCALE 11x
I have the North America GNOME Event Box - just tell me where to ship it. I'd be happy to get it out of my basement xD Emily On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Christian Hergert christian.herg...@gmail.com wrote: I can at least take part by filling a seat in the booth. Having stuff delivered would be somewhat painful since I am in SF now. What needs to be done for the shipping container? -- Christian On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jeff Schroeder jeffschr...@gmail.com wrote: I can and will handle this tomorrow. Text by Jeff, typos by iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 22:37, Gareth J. Greenaway gar...@socallinuxexpo.org wrote: Jordan relocated to Washington, not sure if he was planning on coming back to SoCal for SCALE this year. And I believe Christian is currently located in the bay area. Was someone or would someone be able to post something to GNOME Planet looking for volunteers? Thanks! Gareth On 12/18/2012 07:30 PM, Jeff Schroeder wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Or ask Jeff if there is someone he recommends? Christian Hergert and Jordan Larrigan have both done a pretty stand up job of helping me several of the years I did the GNOME booth at scale. Perhaps they might be of help? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I think we would love to be there, but I don't know of any GNOME folks that reside in SoCal. I could write a call for volunteers on planet and ask? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Gareth J. Greenaway gar...@socallinuxexpo.org wrote: Greetings all, A quick introduction, I'm Gareth Greenaway, one of the organizers for the Southern California Linux Expo. An annual free open source conference held in Southern California. I've been lurking on the list for awhile, just observing :) The last few years we've had an awesome GNOME presence at SCALE. spearheaded by Jeff Schroeder. Unfortunately for us, Jeff has relocated and is no longer local to SoCal, so he'll be unable to represent GNOME at the show. My hope is that there is someone whose willing to step in and fill this role. Any questions at all, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks! Gareth -- SCALE 11X - February 22nd - 24th, 2013 This time it goes to 11! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Gareth J. Greenaway | gar...@socallinuxexpo.org Voice - 877-831-2569 x130 Southern California Linux Expo http://www.socallinuxexpo.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Slow news week
Hey, I just did a search and turned up these: http://derstandard.at/1355460385185/GNOME-38-Neue-Testversion-bringt-zusaetzliche-Einstellungsmoeglichkeiten - in german, use google translate :p Also lxer about a project to make GNOME 3 'fully backward compatible with GTK2'... http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/178041/ Emily On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Dave Neary dne...@free.fr Para: Marketing-list@gnome.org marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Enviado: Viernes 21 de diciembre de 2012 11:24 Asunto: Slow news week Hi, I didn't send the GNOME in the News review this week - for the simple reason that (unless I'm mistaken) I did not see one news item going by about us this week. Emily, did you see anything I missed? Whether that is bad or good, I will leave to the appreciation of others :-) GNOME is mentioned in this article Governance of Open Source Software Foundations: Who Holds the Power? http://timreview.ca/article/636 Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Your FOSDEM stand request for GNOME]
Cool! I'm still not sure if I'll make it, cross your fingers :) On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: looks like we're all set to have a 2 table stand at FOSDEM... Original Message Subject: Your FOSDEM stand request for GNOME From:Wynke Stulemeijer wy...@fosdem.org Date:Sat, December 22, 2012 3:10 pm To: ka...@gnome.org Cc: sta...@fosdem.org -- Hi Karen, I am pleased to inform you that your proposal for a stand at FOSDEM 2013 has been accepted. We have assigned two tables to you. You will receive additional information, including the location of your stand, in due course. Kind regards, Wynke. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: moving marketing meeting to Tuesdays instead of Wednesday
Dave, Allan, would any evening be better for you two? Would even an hour or two earlier be helpful? Emily On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: On 01/11/2013 12:12 PM, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Does anybody have a problem with attendance if we move the marketing meeting from Wednesday to Tuesday at 20:00 UTC? That would actually work better for me. Although, since it's an evening it is hard for me to commit to always making it. Idem for me. It's better, but not perfect :) At least there's a chance I could make it once on a Tuesday. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: moving marketing meeting to Tuesdays instead of Wednesday
I completely understand the 8pm issues - thats more-or-less bedtime around here too :) With that said, would anyone be opposed to moving it up an hour or so to 19:00UTC on Tuesday? Would that help (or hurt) anyone else' schedule? And maybe for people to start trying to get connected as early as 18:30 so we can start on time? Emily On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Emily, Speaking only for myself, the time-slot will always be problematic - on Wednesdays I will never be available, on other nights, it is possible, but kids need to be put to bed, stories need to be told, etc. 8pm is rush hour in the Neary household. 7pm would be better (with the exception of Wednesday). Cheers, Dave. On 01/11/2013 02:05 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: Dave, Allan, would any evening be better for you two? Would even an hour or two earlier be helpful? Emily On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: On 01/11/2013 12:12 PM, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Does anybody have a problem with attendance if we move the marketing meeting from Wednesday to Tuesday at 20:00 UTC? That would actually work better for me. Although, since it's an evening it is hard for me to commit to always making it. Idem for me. It's better, but not perfect :) At least there's a chance I could make it once on a Tuesday. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
FOSDEM
Hi there, checking and updating the wiki I noticed that info for the theoretical beer event has gone missing - I'm assuming that means it was inaccurate. Can someone who speaks French/Dutch please call Le Beccase (or another bar in the area) and see if we can get it reserved? Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Love flyer
I love them both too, but lean towards the heart over the equation if we must pick one, though I can't help but to wonder why not print some of each and have them both? Emily On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 02/16/2013 12:56 AM, Juanjo Marín wrote: I think the computer adds some work/learn idea that fits here pretty well. But, yes, it's a matter of taste ;-) It's also a matter of the feeling of impact, hence why I lean towards the big heart. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
I'd be happy to read review a copy :) Emily On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Thanks, Flavia! I've already had a couple of responses to my email, so it's a good idea to ask about e-copies for this. I'll let you know... karen On Wed, March 6, 2013 2:54 pm, Flavia Weisghizzi wrote: Hi Karen! It should be very interesting for me have the opportunity to review this book (it's my work!!! :) ), so please, take me in consideration. I'll be very happy to have an e-book copy, if it's available e-book format, and let you have paper copies. Let me know :) Flavia Il 06/03/2013 20:19, Karen Sandler ha scritto: Hi everyone, Packt Publishing has recently put out a book on GNOME 3, which was written by Mohammad Anwari. It would be great to have a review of the book on gnome.org. As with all of their books about free software projects, Packt will give us a small percentage of the royalties as a donation, and slightly more if we promote it on our website (which would include publishing a review). Either way, they'll send us a couple of promotional copies to conduct the review and it would be great to have our view on it out there (positive or negative). If you're interested in reading the book and writing a review, let me know. thanks! karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual report design
FWIW I love the 1st cover and the 2nd interior design - mostly due to concerns related to printing and using an excessive amount of ink with the interior of option 1 :) Emily On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: Hi! With things progressing well with the content of the report (almost all articles are done and are currently in the proof reading phase), we can now move forward with the design. Daniel have made a good base design and now we just need the layouts for how the content will look in place. https://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Mockups Daniel: Are you up for taking the content in the wiki and apply it to your designs to see how it all will look in the end? It will need some space for photos, and we need to get a list of good photos to go with the articles. Anyone interested in taking that on? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
Oh c'mon Sri, I did a booth all by my lonesome at Ohio Linux Fest :p In all seriousness, I'd love to help but, as with Brett you're on the other side of the continent, which makes it a bit hard. Though, IMHO we ought to have a GNOME booth at all the major conferences, though I'm probably dreaming. Emily On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Ack! These things are always on the other side of the continent from me... though I'd love to do a road trip out that way. BSDCan is in my neck of the woods (in Ottawa) though I do not think we're in good shape yet in that camp, at least in FreeBSD which is my primary BSD area of interest (correct me if I'm wrong, someone!) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 2:40 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
Karen, I'd be down for a marketing hackfest and either NY or Cincinnatti could work for me - I'm hoping/planning to attend at least part of the OpenHelp conference in June, though I've not made definete plans just yet. Either way June sounds good to me! Emily On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: As per Tobi's email, we should consider again whether to organize a marketing hackfest! Shaun has suggested co-locating with the docs sprint in Cincinatti June 17-19. It's a good suggestion, but it occurs to me that if we can find a time that works, I can surely find a way to organize it here in NY, which is central to our key members and easier to get to with a single flight. We're a small enough team that I can already thing of a few spaces that could work for it. I guess the biggest challenge would be to find affordable accommodations here. What do people think? Would it be workable this time and if so would having it in June make sense? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: [Ubuntu-us-ohio] Multiple Versions Have Gone End-of-Life Today
This is a good reminder - how many people are still out there running GNOME 2.x which is now for the first time completely unsupported? Ubuntu 8.04 and/or 10.04 - I suspect the (unfortuante) answer is a LOT. Emily -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephen Michael Kellat skel...@fastmail.net Date: Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:04 PM Subject: [Ubuntu-us-ohio] Multiple Versions Have Gone End-of-Life Today To: ubuntu-us-o...@lists.launchpad.net Be advised of the notices below. Stephen Michael Kellat Point of Contact Leader Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 14:03:39 -0600 From: Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: ubuntu-security-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Desktop End of Life reached on May 9, 2013 This is a follow-up to the End of Life warning sent last month to confirm that as of today (May 9, 2013), Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop is no longer supported. This announcement is for the desktop product only, Ubuntu 10.04 Server is still supported for another two years. The original End of Life warning follows, with upgrade instructions: Ubuntu announced its 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) release almost 3 years ago, on April 29, 2010. As with the earlier LTS releases, Ubuntu committed to ongoing security and critical fixes for a period of 3 years on the desktop. The support period is now nearing its end and Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop will reach end of life on Thursday, May 9th. At that time, Ubuntu Security Notices will no longer include information or updated packages for Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop. Ubuntu 10.04 Server continues to be supported for another 2 years. The supported upgrade path from Ubuntu 10.04 is via Ubuntu 12.04. Instructions and caveats for the upgrade may be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades. Ubuntu 12.04 continues to be actively supported with security updates and select high-impact bug fixes. All announcements of official security updates for Ubuntu releases are sent to the ubuntu-security-announce mailing list, information about which may be found at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce. Since its launch in October 2004 Ubuntu has become one of the most highly regarded Linux distributions with millions of users in homes, schools, businesses and governments around the world. Ubuntu is Open Source software, costs nothing to download, and users are free to customise or alter their software in order to meet their needs. On behalf of the Ubuntu Release Team, Adam Conrad -- ubuntu-announce mailing list ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 14:05:04 -0600 From: Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: ubuntu-security-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) End of Life reached on May 9, 2013 This is a follow-up to the End of Life warning sent last month to confirm that as of today (May 9, 2013), Ubuntu 8.04 is no longer supported. No more package updates will be accepted to 8.04, and it will be archived to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the coming weeks. The original End of Life warning follows, with upgrade instructions: Ubuntu announced its 8.04 (Hardy Heron) release almost 5 years ago, on April 24, 2008. As with the earlier LTS releases, Ubuntu committed to ongoing security and critical fixes for a period of 5 years. The support period is now nearing its end and Ubuntu 8.04 will reach end of life on Thursday, May 9th. At that time, Ubuntu Security Notices will no longer include information or updated packages for Ubuntu 8.04. The supported upgrade path from Ubuntu 8.04 is via Ubuntu 10.04. Users are encouraged to evaluate and upgrade to our latest 12.04 LTS release via 10.04. Instructions and caveats for the upgrades may be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades. Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04 continue to be actively supported with security updates and select high-impact bug fixes. All announcements of official security updates for Ubuntu releases are sent to the ubuntu-security-announce mailing list, information about which may be found at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce. Since its launch in October 2004 Ubuntu has become one of the most highly regarded Linux distributions with millions of users in homes, schools, businesses and governments around the world. Ubuntu is Open Source software, costs nothing to download, and users are free to customise or alter their software in order to meet their needs. On behalf of the Ubuntu Release Team, Adam Conrad -- ubuntu-announce mailing list ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 14:06:34
Re: Go-ahead for a community survey
Fantastic Michael! Thanks - I can't wait to see the results! On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Michael Heyns mike.bean.he...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Gnome Team, I trust this is an appropriate method of communication. I have been a Gnome user since 2004 and I haven't contributed much besides the odd bug report but I am very enthusiastic about the platform and have really enjoyed Gnome 3.x so far. In an effort to understand more about my fellow users, I designed a questionnaire with no hidden agenda besides pure curiosity and the hope that information could be of some use to somebody. I didn't want to start promoting it all over the internet before consulting with you as I don't want to step on any toes. Please have a look at it and tell me what you think. Maybe I can improve on it. Unofficial Gnome 3.8 User Survey - 2013: http://goo.gl/pC48p I work with information systems and have a fair understanding of statistics so I plan on compiling summaries and reports once the feedback is strong enough. I look forward to hearing from you and as always I am very grateful for everything you do for me and my computers :) (too cheesy?) All the best, -- *Michael Heyns* gplus.to/beanaroo -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: FoG BoF (was: Call for BoF sessions and lightning talks at GUADEC)
I'd be interested in attending as well - I may not be around for all 4 days of hackfests, so the sooner in the week the better. :) On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.dewrote: Hi everyone :) I am wondering whether there are enough people who care or want to care about our Friends of GNOME program to have a BoF session at GUADEC. We could talk about the following things: * Responsibilities * Shall we form a committee of some sort? * Who is going to feel resposible for what? * Current gift structure * We have mugs from 500 USD donation level and too many mugs * can we produce and ship from a cheaper place than the US? * Payment options * Do we have experience with non-Paypal payment providers? If you are interested, let me know. Cheers, Tobi On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24:42AM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: The call for Bird of a Feather and Lightning Talks for GUADEC 2013 is now open. You can submit a proposal for the BoF and hacking sessions to be held at GUADEC simply by adding your session to the wiki page at: https://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2013/BOFs ... -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Activities at GUADEC
I'm happy to write stuff for the conference as needed, and certainly happy to be an overall editor/reviewer as well :) And I agree an early heads up, starting about now of interviews with upcoming keynoters would be a good idea. Didn't we do interviews of the team last year? I think those went over well :) Emily On 6/27/13, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to help write/review texts during the conference. I think one thing that is cool is to promote a certain hashtag people can use when tweeting about the event (or just wanting to check what others are saying). It's cool if the hashtag is indicated in the badge or in any posters and stuff. In order to draw interest and attendance around GUADEC, it would also be good to do some announcements about who the keynote speakers are on guadec.org and gnome.org. For the actual attendance part I think we would need the registering system up and working first though. Not only the keynotes, but also the actual schedule of the conference. This is the kind of thing that may attract attendees that are not core contributors. Would be nice to interview some of the speakers and make some buzz around the talks too, as we had last GUADEC. Best, Fabiana On 06/27/2013 11:56 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 06/26/2013 12:51 PM, Allan Day wrote: Thinking about this, we probably need the following: * Keynote blog posts - x4 * Day summary blog posts - x4 * Live microbloggers - x8 (assuming one for each morning and afternoon) In order to draw interest and attendance around GUADEC, it would also be good to do some announcements about who the keynote speakers are on guadec.org and gnome.org. For the actual attendance part I think we would need the registering system up and working first though. Maybe presenting one keynote speaker each week. I'm happy to write the texts, provided someone can help me look for typos before I publish it. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Must Read: Google Grants Renewal Required
Why did we phase out google checkouts in favor of paypal? I've been hoping for an alternative to paypal for a while now. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, July 1, 2013 11:55 am, Stormy Peters wrote: Are we using our Google Grants account anymore? (I am not doing anything with it.) The two main advantages that I remember are: * Getting donations though Google checkout without having to pay a fee. I believe this was phased out and actually, I think that Google Checkout as a whole is getting phased out very soon. * Free Google ads I have never really looked into this but always wanted to - is anyone interested in picking this up? Maybe we should add it to our next meeting agenda? karen Stormy -- Forwarded message -- From: “Google Grants” googlegra...@google.com Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM Subject: Must Read: Google Grants Renewal Required To: sto...@gnome.org [image: Google Grants] Must Read: Google Grants Renewal Required *Google loves to give grants to nonprofits! But every now and again, we need to make sure you are in fact still a registered nonprofit, and that your AdWords account is compliant with Google Grants guidelines. Our Google Grants renewal policy will require Google Grantees who have been in the program longer than six months to submit updated nonprofit status documentation, along with their AdWords Customer ID, for review. Google Grants will continue to be available, and we'll likely request you renew your eligible status every year **going forward. * *What Next?* *You don’t have to do anything yet! We wanted to give you a heads up that the renewal policy is coming so that you can have your nonprofit status documentation ready and you can review the Google Grants guidelineshttp://www.google.com/grants/eligibility.html to ensure your AdWords account is compliant. We plan to launch the renewal policy in July 2013. We will provide a three week window for Google Grantees to submit a renewal form at that time, so please be on the lookout for an email in July.* * New URL Policy We recently sent an email announcing a change to our URL policy. Google Grantees are now only allowed to advertise the one URL associated with the registered nonprofit listed in their original application. Please remove extra URLs from your account before the renewal policy to avoid suspension from the program. Please refer to the renewal FAQshttp://www.google.com/grants/renewalfaq.htmlon the what, why, when and how of the renewal policy. Sincerely, The Google Grants Team Please note: this email acts as a notification only. Please do not reply. © 2013 Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043 You've received this mandatory service announcement email to update you about important changes to your Google Grants AdWords account. * -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: propose new time for marketing meeting
Either time works for me :) On Jul 12, 2013 6:51 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I'm flexible.. we can go for 18:00 UTC. That would make it about 11am my time. Earlier in the day is definitely better for me. I don't have any commitments on Wednesday evenings. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
