Re: Changing marketing areas to engagement
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: We made a big decision today to change marketing to engagement. So, we will be moving immediately to the #engagement channel. but we will also need to start moving all the marketing pages to engagement as well. We will need to figure out how to do that. It might be that we can do it as part of the live.gnome.org work that Tiffany is doing. I've started to migrate the wiki pages over to Engagement [1]. I've also taken the opportunity to do some clean up at the same time. Let me know if there's been any breakage as a result. Also, I wonder if we should move the Events page [2] under Engagement? Allan [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/ [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Changing marketing areas to engagement
Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: I've started to migrate the wiki pages over to Engagement [1]. I've also taken the opportunity to do some clean up at the same time. Let me know if there's been any breakage as a result. Please redirect at least the most important GnomeMarketing pages to Engagement. For example, to redirect https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/ to https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/, use #REDIRECT Engagement Ah yes, I'd meant to do that. Seems that someone has taken care of it now - thanks if that was you, Kat. Also, does anyone object if I rename Channels to Services for the social media? I agree that Channels isn't a good name, but I'm not sure about Services (it seems rather generic, also that page lists more than social media accounts). Maybe NewsChannels or something? Also, I wonder if we should move the Events page [2] under Engagement? I would prefer to see it left as it is for the same reasons that GUADEC and GNOME.Asia have their own pages. We also don't really want to end up with all wiki pages having really long URLs because that's a bit annoying. GUADEC and GNOME.Asia are run by distinct groups of people, and they have their own communication channels. One reason to move Events under Engagement would be to make it clear who to get in touch with and where discussion takes place. It also helps to keep the wiki in better order. In general I would prefer to try and group our pages under teams rather than spreading them out with no obvious structure. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GUADEC Marketing Activities
Hi everyone, As many of you know, we are trying to do a better job at promoting this year's GUADEC. I've been putting things together to enable us to generate news posts for gnome.org and social media. The GUADEC marketing page includes a rough schedule for news posts, as well as links to scratch pads where we can write notes during the conference. If anyone is wanting to help with this, please add notes and send me any photos you might have (also, please ask if you want a gnome.org account). https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2013/Marketing I have also created some empty draft posts on gnome.org. This is to let us write as much copy ahead of time as possible. I fully expect this not to go quite as planned, so let's stay in touch and adjust the schedule as events unfold. See you in Brno! Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Pixel photos
Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: ... The idea is that these machines will rotate around. Might be a good idea to have a wiki page like for the events box then, or I suspect it might get forgotten about… (lets face it, people are lazy) Well, Matthias is in charge of the rotation and there's already a waiting list :) A wiki page is definitely a good idea I'll try to get that started. That would be great. I think it will look really good if it's done in a more public way so that the community (and the donors) can see where the work is going into and how. It was actually not clear to me that they were supposed to be rotated between people before Andreas said so here! I agree. It would also be good to know who has them, so we can make sure that we have them at GNOME conference booths. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: propose new time for marketing meeting
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I'm flexible.. we can go for 18:00 UTC. That would make it about 11am my time. Earlier in the day is definitely better for me. I don't have any commitments on Wednesday evenings. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Promo Video Animation Mockup
Hi Bastian, Thanks so much for this. I'm sorry I've been so slow to respond. I've got a few ideas about video content in general - I hope they're useful. First, one of the outcomes of the marketing hackfest is that we're pushing for all our marketing materials to be consistent with our brand guidelines. This includes both the content of the messaging as well as the visual style. I'm still working on this, but there are resources you can refer to [1, 2]. Second, there are a few places where we have discussed the need for video assets in the past. The first is for the GNOME 3 page [3], to show off some features. For example, it would be great to have Watch the video - connecting GNOME 3 to your online accounts. We used to have something like this that Jason Clinton did for the 3.0 release, but those videos are now too out of date to use. The other thing that we've talked about is doing a series of short interviews with GNOME contributors and turning them into a short film. I think that we often struggle because the GNOME project remains faceless, and am always inspired when I hear about why our contributors do what they do. Putting those faces and stories on the screen would be really cool. This is something we might film at GUADEC, and it would be great to have help with editing and processing. Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/DraftBrandGuidelines [2] https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/blob/master/brand/brand-visuals.png [3] https://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Activities at GUADEC
I've asked around and it seems that we have enough volunteers to edit our posts during the conference. The next thing is to try and get enough people to actually write the copy. Please put your name down if you want to help with any of this: https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2013/Marketing Also, do we have any ideas for how to recruit other attendees to help with this? Allan On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to write stuff for the conference as needed, and certainly happy to be an overall editor/reviewer as well :) And I agree an early heads up, starting about now of interviews with upcoming keynoters would be a good idea. Didn't we do interviews of the team last year? I think those went over well :) Emily On 6/27/13, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to help write/review texts during the conference. I think one thing that is cool is to promote a certain hashtag people can use when tweeting about the event (or just wanting to check what others are saying). It's cool if the hashtag is indicated in the badge or in any posters and stuff. In order to draw interest and attendance around GUADEC, it would also be good to do some announcements about who the keynote speakers are on guadec.org and gnome.org. For the actual attendance part I think we would need the registering system up and working first though. Not only the keynotes, but also the actual schedule of the conference. This is the kind of thing that may attract attendees that are not core contributors. Would be nice to interview some of the speakers and make some buzz around the talks too, as we had last GUADEC. Best, Fabiana On 06/27/2013 11:56 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 06/26/2013 12:51 PM, Allan Day wrote: Thinking about this, we probably need the following: * Keynote blog posts - x4 * Day summary blog posts - x4 * Live microbloggers - x8 (assuming one for each morning and afternoon) In order to draw interest and attendance around GUADEC, it would also be good to do some announcements about who the keynote speakers are on guadec.org and gnome.org. For the actual attendance part I think we would need the registering system up and working first though. Maybe presenting one keynote speaker each week. I'm happy to write the texts, provided someone can help me look for typos before I publish it. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Marketing
Hi all, We discussed this during yesterday's phone meeting. A few points that stood out for me: * There were some concerns that advocacy sounds too political and forceful * While there was some support for promotion, it was also recognised that this implies one-way communication, and that this might not be the best fit for what we do (or what we aspire to) * Outreach has a life of its own beyond the existing marketing team We clearly promote, engage, advocate and reach out, and each of these terms describes *some* of what we do. As such, I think we need to be focusing on which aspect of our work we want to emphasise. Based on yesterday's conversation, I'm thinking that engagement is probably the best fit, since it emphasises meaningful two-way conversation (something which is close to our mission and our brand identity). Allan On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm not sure there is a need of change the term but if so I think promotion is the best fit. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Goodmorning! My reservation about engagement is that it makes it sound like we only work with people who we already have a relationship with. Agree :) So I think my preference is for promotion: I really prefer advocacy but promotions sounds quite good too :) Cheers, Flavia -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Activities at GUADEC
Hi all, For most projects and companies, the annual conference is an opportunity to generate lots of media and tell the world about the cool things they are doing. We've never really managed to do this with GUADEC, and that has always seemed like a missed opportunity. Ideally we would be doing live microblogging from the event, and have regular posts describing the keynotes and summarising the highlights from each day. Really these things should include a mixture of text, photos and even video. The challenge is that, with all of us busy during the conference, who is going to do all this marketing work? We discussed this during yesterday's marketing meeting, and the idea was floated of getting those people who have been sponsored by the GNOME Foundation to each do a shift as marketing volunteers. I think that is a fine idea, although there will be more sponsored people than slots, and not everyone has the best written English. Thinking about this, we probably need the following: * Keynote blog posts - x4 * Day summary blog posts - x4 * Live microbloggers - x8 (assuming one for each morning and afternoon) The hard part is also ensuring quality control - we need someone trusted who can review each post and edit as appropriate. One way we could do this is have duty editors also - for each day we would have someone who is on call to review and post. These editors wouldn't need to be at the conference, of course (and it might be easier if they're not). This will all require that we can be sure that there will be Internet access, of course. If this sounds like a reasonable plan, I can put a schedule on the wiki and we can try and recruit people to fill the slots. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Marketing
Hi all, Marketing is associated with corporations, and is done by marketing professionals. I've often felt that the term isn't a good fit for what we do in GNOME, and I suspect that it puts some people off contributing. We discussed this during the recent hackfest, and it seems that there's support for changing GNOME Marketing to a different term. Ideas that we discussed include promotion, outreach, engagement and advocacy. What do people think of this? Do you have a preference for the name? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Go-ahead for a community survey
Hi Michael, I've had a look at the questionnaire, and have spotted a few issues with it. I'd be happy to provide you with some more substantive feedback. (I have a background in social research.) There are a couple of bigger issues with self-selection survey that we need to consider though. The main one is sample bias - since people will be volunteering to fill in the survey, we will have no idea how representative it is of GNOME users. Worse still, it could possibly suffer from efforts to recruit people based on their preexisting opinions (fill in the survey to tell the GNOME project how much we hate GNOME 3 / fill in the survey to tell the GNOME developers how much you love GNOME 3). My concern about this is that any results that are generated will be highly suggestive. If you publish something saying that 99% of respondents love/hate GNOME 3, it will appear that 99% of all users love/hate GNOME 3, and that is how the result will be interpreted. Yet, we will have no idea how that result actually relates to the GNOME 3 user population as a whole. That wouldn't be very good publicity, and it wouldn't help us get a better idea about the attitudes and opinions of everyone who uses GNOME. This problem is compounded by the fact that many people don't even know that they are running GNOME; a lot of people only identify their distribution as the thing that they use. Allan On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Michael Heyns mike.bean.he...@gmail.com wrote: At first I wasn't sure if I should span all of 3.x because many of the issues of previous releases have been pinpointed by now. But in hindsight and looking at which versions are default for most distros, it makes much more sense. I will make the appropriate changes. Thank you, everybody. -- Michael Heyns gplus.to/beanaroo On 24/05/2013 6:05 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: I think that it looks great, and I agree with Fabiana and Karen that it would be good to expand it beyond just GNOME 3.8 (to perhaps see just what versions people are using). Brett On May 23, 2013 1:49 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote: That looks great! This kind of information is much needed, thank you. Me too! I do have one question - did you intentionally limit the survey to 3.8? Or did you want to make the survey about 3.x? I think it's unlikely right now that anyone running 3.8 has it because someone else installed it for them or because it's the default on their distro. It'll take some time for that :) One idea is to focus the survey on the 3.x family, instead of in a single release. With this, we would also be able to explore the perceived improvement of GNOME 3 for those users that have been using it since 3.0 (or later). For example, we could ask 1) what release they are currently using and how do they rate it; and 2) how do they rate the improvement between this release and the first one they used (would be interesting to know which release was that). - Fabiana On 23 May 2013 12:29, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 10:13 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: Fantastic Michael! Thanks - I can't wait to see the results! Me too! I do have one question - did you intentionally limit the survey to 3.8? Or did you want to make the survey about 3.x? I think it's unlikely right now that anyone running 3.8 has it because someone else installed it for them or because it's the default on their distro. It'll take some time for that :) karen On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Michael Heyns mike.bean.he...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Gnome Team, I trust this is an appropriate method of communication. I have been a Gnome user since 2004 and I haven't contributed much besides the odd bug report but I am very enthusiastic about the platform and have really enjoyed Gnome 3.x so far. In an effort to understand more about my fellow users, I designed a questionnaire with no hidden agenda besides pure curiosity and the hope that information could be of some use to somebody. I didn't want to start promoting it all over the internet before consulting with you as I don't want to step on any toes. Please have a look at it and tell me what you think. Maybe I can improve on it. Unofficial Gnome 3.8 User Survey - 2013: http://goo.gl/pC48p I work with information systems and have a fair understanding of statistics so I plan on compiling summaries and reports once the feedback is strong enough. I look forward to hearing from you and as always I am very grateful for everything you do for me and my computers :) (too cheesy?) All the best, -- *Michael Heyns* gplus.to/beanaroo -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.
Re: Reminder: Marketing meeting Tuesday 23, 2013\\
SIP hasn't been a good experience for me. I had major difficulties connecting in the beginning, causing me to miss meetings. During the last two meetings I have attended, the sound quality has been so poor that we have had to abandon voice and revert to IRC. Ease of access is really important for our marketing meetings, and the current solution doesn't seem to be working. Maybe we should stick with IRC until something better comes along? (As I've said in the past, I'd be happy to use a proprietary service like Google Hangouts; I know that some people don't want to use this though.) Allan On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Hola! On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:09:45AM -0300, Fabiana Simões wrote: If we are able to use something like this and still have SIP (or whatever online dialing alternative), that's great. I agree. Calls to the US are pretty much for free. I think there is a gratis Google service. Cheers, Tobi -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
News Story Ideas
Hi all, During the last marketing meeting I said that I'd mail the list with some ideas for news stories to be written over the summer. This is it. :) * GTK Hackfest - we just had it; it would be great to have a summary for gnome.org * A 3.8 retrospective - once 3.8 hits the distros it would be great to have another round of marketing around the new release. This could be a re-hash of the existing marketing materials, and it could include comments or interviews with people who are using 3.8 (ideally saying what they like about it). * A looking forward to 3.10 piece - the feature proposals are in and give an idea about what we'll be releasing in October. It might be nice to have a post about that. In addition to these, we have lots of events coming up that we should be covering... * Google Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women summer internships (June to September) - we should have posts at the beginning and end of the internship period. We could also have other feature pieces over the summer. * Marketing Hackfest (probably beginning of June) * OpenHelp Documentation Hackfest (mid-June) * Board of Directors elections (not sure when that will be) * GUADEC (beginning of August) - we should have a whole series of posts leading up to and during this. Interviews with keynote speakers and conference organisers would be good here. I'm sure there's plenty of other things that we could have as news stories. Anyone got any other ideas? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
Thanks for following up, Karen. Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: ... I'd love to get this scheduled! It's looking like scheduling around theJune 24-25 makes sense from looking at people's preferences. Allan do you know if you're unavailable from the 26th? ... My plans for those dates fell through, so I'm free in June. (I've updated the wiki page.) These are the people we identified before as good people to help contribute: * Allan * Andreas * Emmanuele * Karen * Garrett * Jon McCann * Lucas Rocha * Vincent * Stormy * Sri * Jim Nelson (Yorba) * Guy Lunardi (Collabora) * John Sullivan (FSF) * Alex (Skud) Bayley * Nick Richards (formerly Intel) * Karl Fogel * Havoc Pennington If we get the date settled, I can invite them, or we can even set up a call to discuss it, with some people in person. Anyone else to add? I'm fairly certain that we'll never get some of these people to a hackfest. Reaching out to some of them is a great idea though, and we should talk about other people we might want to invite. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: As per Tobi's email, we should consider again whether to organize a marketing hackfest! Shaun has suggested co-locating with the docs sprint in Cincinatti June 17-19. ... What do people think? Would it be workable this time and if so would having it in June make sense? I'm definitely interested in attending a marketing hackfest. That said, I am busy and my primary responsibility is design, so I'd want to be confident that the event would be an effective use of time. Do you (or anybody else) have any ideas for what we would work on? I think there are a lot of things we could work on, but one big thing we want to do is to better articulate why GNOME and free software generally is so important. Also, our marketing materials site is old and seriously out of date so on the more mundane side, combing through those materials, reorganizing them and figuring out if there's anything new that we need would probably be very useful. With the resources that we have for marketing, there's a danger that planning discussions would remain just that - discussions. We've been down this road before; we all want to do more, but there are limits, and I think we should be realistic. So I have a strong preference for doing work at the hackfest rather than planning. As for things that we could work on, there are a number of priority areas for me: * Marketing materials - we could use the opportunity to move our existing content over to OwnCloud and fill in any blanks * Updating the brand guidelines and move them to a restricted location (this would include elaborating them to cover things like visual style, colour schemes, etc) * Writing a GNOME mission statement For some of these items, particularly the last one, we will need more expertise than the marketing team has. If we are going to tackle these tasks - and I think that a hackfest would be a good opportunity to do so - we should think about getting other people to the event, either from the GNOME community and/or specialists who can help us to articulate our message. (And if we do want to get other members of the community involved, New York might be a better location.) Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
Hi Karen, Karen Sandler wrote: As per Tobi's email, we should consider again whether to organize a marketing hackfest! Shaun has suggested co-locating with the docs sprint in Cincinatti June 17-19. ... What do people think? Would it be workable this time and if so would having it in June make sense? I'm definitely interested in attending a marketing hackfest. That said, I am busy and my primary responsibility is design, so I'd want to be confident that the event would be an effective use of time. Do you (or anybody else) have any ideas for what we would work on? Best, Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.6 feedback
Hi Steven, I'm sorry you've had some difficulties with GNOME 3.6. Please be aware that the marketing list is not an appropriate place for general feedback. If you want to do this, you can use mailing lists for the affected modules or file bugs. I've provided a few notes below, but I don't intended to engage in an extended discussion about these issues on this list - we can continue elsewhere if you would like. Steven Osborne sakmerli...@lavabit.com wrote: 1. The ACTIVITIES panel is changed, again; just when I was getting used to the 3.4-ish style ACTIVITIES, with all icons readily available to its right, I open up GNOME to find it missing; it took me a few minutes to get where it was located, and that was a frustrating few minutes. It's not clear what you are referring to here. If it's the change in the method to open the applications view, you might be interested to know that this was guided by user observations we made: the previous UI was not working well for many people. 2. Nautilus is missing the menu bar; this took me quite a bit longer to figure out, but I was finally able to find in the Ubuntu forums that you have to right-click on the GNOME title bar on the FILES icon to get preferences; I went through: 2.1 - gconf-editor 2.2 - dconf-editor 2.3 - gnome-tweak-tools and it was frustratingly unintuitive to right click on the title bar when every other program I use does NOT require that. Yes, we recognise that that's an issue and are working to resolve it. 3. The blocky-looking notification bar area looks horrible; I'm afraid to look for the configuration for that area, as finding any configuration tools has been unintuitive and difficult. looks horrible isn't a very constructive comment. Please say what looks bad (in a bug report), and try to avoid emotive language. We have some outstanding work to do here, see: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682242 4. It is difficult to navigate with a mouse; granted the GNOME key (i.e., called the Windows key for Microsoft) and typing is wonderful; but, when I have to use a mouse, it is unwieldy and difficult; I do not have a touch screen tablet or desktop system and, unless something major changes in my life, I will not have one for the next 10 years or so; I don't need or want my desktop to mirror the simplistic touch screens found in iPhones, tablets, etc. Again, please say exactly which issues you are having with mouse input, using bug reports. I suspect that some of these issues are already filed. 5. I just realized that I MUST slide the lock screen to unlock it using a password; this is beyond ridiculous; I have a laptop/desktop and not a touch screen, please let me just type my password in to unlock my workstation. That has been fixed for 3.8: see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686740 6. The notifications pop-up in the bottom-middle of my screen and just stay there until I have to stop what I am doing to click on it to go away; I do not want notifications, about anything, really; please provide a way to stop all notifications; heck, I can still access regedit in Windows 8 to turn off their balloons. You can turn off notifications from the user menu in the top-right corner of the screen. They can also be disabled through the new notifications settings panel in 3.8. I am disabled, having had an aneurysm rupture last year and being frustrated aggravates my condition; unfortunately, GNOME 3.6 has done nothing but provide me pain, literally; I get massive headaches when I get frustrated to a certain level and my desktop experience with GNOME has been the most frustrating computer experience in my 25+ years of using computers. It has been stated that the developers are no longer listening to their users; I can only hope this is not the case, because I will find a solution that works and whose developers are better connected to their user base. Again, if you provide specific examples of what is causing you issues, we will try to fix them. Overall, GNOME seems to be heading down the path to dumb down the user experience. I have tried to like the GNOME 3.x system, but cannot get past the unintuitive changes. Sadly, everyone I know that uses Linux, and I used to run the Linux Users Group, has dropped GNOME, but me, and 3.6 is causing me to doubt continued use of the desktop environment. I'm sorry but I object to your reference to dumbing down. There are plenty of opportunities for sophisticated usage in GNOME 3. You obviously feel passionate about this issue, and we're grateful for your support, but please don't take your frustration out on the development community. Best wishes, Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting Tuesday 20:00 UTC
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Sorry, this is really last minute. I completely forgot to send out a reminder. This is our last marketing meeting before the release. So I think we should try to meet. If we can't meet by phone then let's at least do one over IRC. Apologies for missing the meeting: I was off on holiday yesterday. Did I miss anything important? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.8 Release Notes
alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Allan, I think you're missing Notifications System. - Task Switching - Apps Launching - Notifications ... Good point, Alex! I'll add those to the notes. Thanks, Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release Notes Time!
This is your final call! The Release Notes are pretty much done and I'm looking to get them nailed down at the beginning of next week. If you have anything that should be included and isn't [1], please fill in the wiki page [2] asap. Allan [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/tree/?h=gnome-3-8 [2] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/ReleaseNotes -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.8 Release Notes
Hi all, I've completed the first draft of the release notes [1] (albeit without screenshots). Please take a look and let me know if you spot anything that can be improved. Allan [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/tree/?h=gnome-3-8 -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME 3.8 Release Notes
Hi all, I'm in the process of writing the release notes and they're going pretty well. One thing we should discuss is the headline feature list: this is the list of features that we want to highlight in the notes and other marketing materials. So far my draft list looks like: * Windows View (improved thumbnails, easier window switching) * Application View (new section for frequently used and application folders) * Search (new search view can integrate any application, plus there's the new search settings) * Privacy sharing (new settings, connects well with our privacy campaign) * Clocks (new app) * Improved animation rendering (courtesy of Owen - http://blog.fishsoup.net/) * Classic mode * Initial setup * Details (highlighting the work of Every Detail Matters this cycle) * Settings (lots of updates to the control center) * Input methods (plenty of updates here too) So that's 11 items, which is probably a bit too many. The weakest features (from a marketing perspective) are probably initial setup, details, settings and input methods. Any opinions on what should be demoted? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release Notes Time!
Some of you have been awesome and have given me nice notes on what you did over the past 6 months. The rest of you are very bad people. There is time to redeem yourselves, but the window of opportunity is closing. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
3.8 Release Planning
Hi all, As I recently noted in my email about release notes, GNOME 3.8 is due for release on March 27. That gives us about a month to get ready on the marketing side. This includes: * Release notes * Press release * Update gnome.org (change the banner on the homepage, update the screenshots on http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/) * Reach out to the press in advance to let them know that the release is coming * Generate buzz any way we can (blog posts, social media, etc) I'm working on the release notes and would appreciate any help I can get. We also need people to take care of the press release (this has a long lead time, since we have to approach people for quotations) and reaching out to the press. Volunteers are badly needed here. Let me know if you can take responsibility for any of these items. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I can do the press release, I did part of it last time. I'll figure out how to get the quotations. That would be great, Sri! First thing to do is to figure out who we want to approach. We need some press contacts. I know that Vincent has volunteered to be our media guy. Vincent, can you handle media questions? We have a list of contacts already. We just needs someone send out emails and field questions. We have one volunteer for videos by the way, just need to get a reasonable build for him to try. We had discussed this earlier . It is a nice extra I think. Possibly, Bastian can do some screenshots as well. Video content would be fantastic of course... I can help out some with the release notes as well and social media. I will ask for more volunteers on the social networking sites becuase we still have pending stuff to do on the annual report. :/ One thing we need are blog posts and interviews that can be published in the run up to the release. We can then push those out on the social media channels. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: I loved how for 3.4 we prepared advance press kits for me to send out. Me too. It would be so awesome if we could do that again, but it would involve pushing up some of the drafting deadlines. Providing screenshots and advance access to the release notes shouldn't be a problem. We will need to have the press release ready early though. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Release Notes Time!
Hi all, It's that time again! GNOME 3.8 is due for release on 27 March: that means we have about two weeks to get the release notes fully written - that's not much time at all. Enter a trance-like state. Cast your mind back over the last six months. Ask yourself: is there anything I have done that will benefit users, developers or administrators? Come back to the world and write it down on the release notes wiki page [1]. Be happy. The sooner we have this information the better, so please don't delay. Thanks in advance, Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/ReleaseNotes -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing meeting Tuesday Feb 12th 20:00 UTC
I can make it. Might be worth talking about the 3.8 release too - it's coming up fast. Allan On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Agenda: * FOSDEM report * Friends of GNOME * Annual Report Standard agenda items: (we don't have to cover, just need to keep it in mind) * Check up on FoG contributions and status - contractors doing a good job of alleviating issues in regards to handling donations. * Community outreach - (news articles - positive/negative, outreach ideas, concerns etc) * Opens Actions: * Karen and Emily working on a wiki page to plan writing content. Andreas is happy to contribute articles. Having more people contribute the easier this task will be to complete. * Allan and Karen will talk with Bastian and Matthias to see where we are with the privacy controls. Things like privacy mode in Web would be great. * Sri will try to find other people to help volunteer for annual report * Andreas to check with Alberto if Healtcheck can be done for all modules. * Emily to post on the Forums (on going) * Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME (on going) * Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doign their theme * Allan to have release team participating in call * Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: moving marketing meeting to Tuesdays instead of Wednesday
Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Allan, would any evening be better for you two? Would even an hour or two earlier be helpful? Thanks for trying to make the meeting easier to attend. Making it a little earlier would certainly help although, again, I can't guarantee that I'll be able to make every one. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: moving marketing meeting to Tuesdays instead of Wednesday
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Does anybody have a problem with attendance if we move the marketing meeting from Wednesday to Tuesday at 20:00 UTC? That would actually work better for me. Although, since it's an evening it is hard for me to commit to always making it. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: REMINDER: Marketing meeting January 9th 20:00 UTC
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Reminder that we have a marketing meeting tomorrow: I'm afraid that I won't be able to make tomorrow's meeting. I'll actualy be busy on Wednesday evenings for the next ten weeks. A few comments on a few of the agenda items: Topics: 1) managing classic experience expectations Right now we don't know exactly what legacy or classic mode will entail (we don't even have a final name decided). There will certainly be window based alt-tab behaviour, an app menu and *some* kind of window list along the bottom of the screen. Many of the details are still to be worked out. The point is that this will not be exactly like GNOME 2, and we don't know what the quality of the new mode will be like. It seems extremely risky to promote a new feature when neither the design nor the implementation have been finalised. Raising expectations could lead to disappointed (although I obviously hope that won't be the case). How do we deal with this? First, we can try to convey the message that it the new mode is still experimental. We could even think about promoting the initial release as a preview release. Second, we should promote those 3.8 features that we can be more confident about. 2) 2.8 marketing message and materials I presume this means 3.8. :) There is already a long list of new features for the next release. Going through them all, I think we can be confident that it will be fairly strong. Looking at the list of improvements, there are a few themes that stand out to me: * Settings - there will be at least three new settings panels (search, notifications, privacy) as well as reworked panels for power, network and color. There has been a huge amount of work invested. * There's a new story for search, with a new interface in the shell and the new settings panel. This is a new and highly visible integration point for applications. * Applications - Web, Documents, Contacts and Clocks are all getting a decent amount of work this cycle. * Polish - Every Detail Matters has been extremely successful this cycle. We also have Owen Taylor's graphics performance work and a new kind of pressure sensitivity for actions like the hot corner and triggering the Message Tray. There's also been a lot of work to refine and consolidate the big new features we had in 3.6, such as input methods integration and the lock screen. Oh, and the window selection part of the Activities Overview has been massively improved. There's a new potential messages we could talk about there: empowering users (through new settings) as well as increasing quality and providing a refined experience. In terms of materials, I would like to discuss how we want to handle the release notes for 3.8. We should also plan blog posts and news stories about new features for the run up to the release. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME legacy
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Yeah, I suspect a lot of people want to see what GNOME will deliver in terms of giving back the original look and feel. Legacy mode is going to look and old and crufty as we continue making GNOME 3 better though. People will end up switching. We don't actually know what legacy mode is going to look like, nor do we know how good it will be. It might well be worth us thinking about doing some expectation management prior to the 3.8 release. This thing might well blow up in our faces. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Minutes December 13, 2012
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: ... I don't think it's actually that hard to figure out what we need to do to improve the perception of GNOME and GNOME 3. There are lots of examples that run contrary to the negative discourse that has been circulating - you don't have to look far to find people who love GNOME 3, or to find developers and designers who are receptive to feedback or who are doing cool stuff. I love this - as I mentioned on a different thread, I'm working on putting together a series of interviews of GNOME users, starting with greggKH and Brett. Do you know of any other awesome folks we should feature? I'm sure I could come up with a few names for you. I'll make some enquiries. ... Perhaps one thing we can do is put together a wish list of simple things we'd like to see done, sort of a GNOME love approach to marketing. That way when newcomers ask for things to do we have a whole list to choose from. We'd have to make it all things that are not very time sensitive, but even just listing articles or interviews we'd like to see written could be a good start. I'd say that the key tasks look something like: * Ensuring that there's a steady stream of messages from the GNOME social media channels * Regular posts on gnome.org * Monitoring of (and engagement with) blog comments, social media sites and forums (we should have a list of sites we want to cover) * Semi-regular events (an announcement can be an event, so can the completion of a new feature) - accompanied by press packs Having a check list of what needs to be done every week (and perhaps every month) could be a good start, perhaps with a way for people to record when they've taken care of something. This would help contributors get started and would also be a way for us to evaluate our performance. It could also be a good basis for regular meetings (less strategy, more tactics). ... One possible way we could help with this would be to invite designers and developers to come and speak to the marketing crew as a part of regular meetings (I'd be happy to help organise that). ... We talked at this meeting about inviting designers and developers to our calls maybe on a monthly basis. If you wanted to help organize that it would be awesome! My idea was to have the guest talk about what they have been working on, and then answer questions from our marketing contributors. One of the objectives would be to create opportunities for marketing contributors to find stories to write about. Another would be to help them establish contacts with the development community. What do others think? What can we do to grow the GNOME outreach effort? Our actual outreach efforts (mostly around OPW and GSoC) have been really successful, maybe we need to highlight that more too? I don't think we ever really did anything with the materials that were prepared at GUADEC even by the newcomers... Sorry, outreach was the wrong word to use there. I should have said marketing... I meant community outreach as community relations, not new contributor programmes. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Minutes December 13, 2012
Thanks again for the minutes, Emily. I was unable to attend the meeting, due to not being able to dial in again (this time I kept being told that the PIN was wrong). Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Minutes from Marketing Tele-Conference, December 13, 2013 Participants: Sririm Ramkrishna, Karen Sandler, Andreas Nilsson, Emily Gonyer, Alan Day, Olav Vitters, Flavia Weisghizzi Topic: Community Outreach/Development Sri: Theres a common wisdom that GNOME will throw out features and are unfriendly. We've let others tell our story for us. As a result, most of the press we receive is negative, focusing on GNOME 3's failures and shortcomings. ... I don't think it's actually that hard to figure out what we need to do to improve the perception of GNOME and GNOME 3. There are lots of examples that run contrary to the negative discourse that has been circulating - you don't have to look far to find people who love GNOME 3, or to find developers and designers who are receptive to feedback or who are doing cool stuff. It might be an obvious point, but GNOME contributors don't actually conform to the way that they are often described. Our task is to let the world know about the great side of GNOME that people don't often hear about, by sharing positive stories about GNOME 3 and our community. That can be through writing blog posts, talking to the press, sharing posts on social media channels (either personal accounts or the GNOME ones), or by participating in forums and mailing lists. We also need advocates who can liaise between our core contributors and the disparate communities that are interested in GNOME. The difficult part is finding people to take on all these tasks, and I actually think that growing and sustaining the GNOME marketing effort is the biggest challenge that we face: we need to focus on how we can grow the GNOME marketing effort. The telephone meetings are a fantastic start here, but we need to do more. One thing we obviously need is critical mass - a few core contributors who can drive things forward by coordinating activity and by enabling and encouraging people to participate. We also need our contributors to feel motivated and valued. One possible way we could help with this would be to invite designers and developers to come and speak to the marketing crew as a part of regular meetings (I'd be happy to help organise that). Another thing we should think about is how to give exposure to marketing contributors. Things like having identifiable authors on gnome.org could really help. It could also be good to have regular activity reports on the list as a way to celebrate the work done by our marketing contributors. What do others think? What can we do to grow the GNOME outreach effort? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Thanks for keeping up the momentum, Sri. I am current free at the same time next week. I'd be interested in talking about how we can generate more positive news about GNOME. Allan On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting Minutes
Thanks for the minutes, Emily. Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Emily: Privacy/Security Pros: Buzz creation, something different and important to virtually everyone Cons: how to implement privacy and security in gnome design ... I would much prefer that we focus on privacy and not security. Privacy as a concept is something that people can relate to, and would be a stronger campaign on its own, in my opinion. - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. Allan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689339 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting - Wednesday November 28, 2012 at 20:00 UTC
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 2592 For those of us outside of the US: is there a way to dial in without having to make an international call? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Community Calendar
Hi Meg, If you give me the details, I would be happy to add the events to the community calendar. Alternatively, I could give you the rights to edit the calendar yourself. Just let me know. Allan On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:54 AM, meg ford megf...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, We are doing a monthly GNOME hackfest series here in Chicago and I am wondering how we can add the events to the GNOME community calendar? Thanks! Meg Ford -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Community Calendar
meg ford megf...@gnome.org wrote: ... Having editing rights would make more sense since we have to co-ordinate according to people's schedules, when people can come from out of town, etc, so dates vary. Done! Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Publishing in Linux Format
Apologies for ignoring this thread for a while. It would be fantastic to have a regular page in Linux Format, and I'm grateful to the publishers for offering us this opportunity. However, I don't think we currently have the resources to produce a monthly page (particularly considering the deadlines that would be involved). That said, maybe we could manage to do a short column each month - I remember that the one that Michael Meeks did for Linux Format was a diary-style entry that was just two or three paragraphs. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote: I am totally onboaed with the privacy campaign. I also would like to suggest an alternative campaign. * Usability Testing Campaign * The goal would be to get real users in to do real use-cases which correspond to target verticals, watch the videos, file bugs and enable the designers to work on those issues. What do you think? Usability testing or privacy are nice ideas, but we have to be able to link the money we will raise to these deliverables. How will extra funds ensure that these things happen? Can we guarantee that we will make progress if we raise enough cash? I asked about extra hardware for testing a little while back [1]. The answer I got [2] was that extra money wasn't currently required. It was implied that extra sysadmin resources would help though. One idea - could we raise money to support extra interns through the Outreach Program for Women? Allan [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-os-list/2012-August/msg00040.html [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-os-list/2012-August/msg00042.html -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: systray shortkey
Hi Juan, The marketing list isn't generally the place for general inquiries... that said, I do know the answer to this one. :) Basically, we're working on it [1]. Allan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682229 On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Juan Antonio push...@limbo.deathwing.net wrote: Hi all, the first, thank you for gnome and gnome-shell, great job, I really think gnome-shell is the best desktop ever. my question, anyway to close systray with the super+M short key in shell 3.6? I think it would be nicer if I could open and close the systray with the same keystroke. thank you. -- Tanto en los deportes como en todo lo demás, soy un experto. Pero para mantener viva mi inteligencia natural y fuera de serie, tengo que comer mucho -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.6 Release Marketing
Here's an update on where we are with the release marketing: * Release notes - done, currently being translated * Press release - Sri is leading this, and I've been gathering quotations (we have 4 confirmed now). The text itself is work in progress. * GNOME 3 page on gnome.org - Andreas said he'd update the screenshots. * GNOME 3 homepage banner - I've been talking to Lapo and Jimmac about getting some new artwork. The current idea is to do something that highlights our new accessibility and input methods features, with the theme Freedom for all. * Announcement news post - a draft is sitting in gnome.org; please check it over and give feedback, if you have access. * Press outreach - this hasn't happened yet. I might have time, but I might not - please step up here, if you can. So most things are under control. We definitely could do with news posts for before and after the release (perhaps spotlighting particular features). It would also be cool if anyone has ideas for things we could do on the social media front. I've always liked the idea of having an online event to coincide with the release... maybe we could use Hangouts to do a live party, or to stream an interview with key developers or designers? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Join Marketing Team
Hey Eduardo! Eduardo Araújo eduardo.opens...@gmail.com wrote: I want to help to promote GNOME, I am already in the marketing team of openSUSE, TheDocumentFoundation and I would like to cooperating with GNOME too. ... Welcome on board! We'd love to have your help. Sorry it's taken me a while to respond - I'm just catching up after GUADEC. We are always looking for news posts to go on gnome.org. There's plenty of potential material on Planet GNOME and on guadec.org if you want to have a go at writing something. (Or just ping me if you want a more concrete suggestion.) I'm hoping to have a get together soon to plan news activities; so stay tuned. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: happy birthday GNOME website!
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: As many of you know from GUADEC, GNOME's 15th anniversary is coming up very soon - on August 15! Some of us were talking about putting up a website, and after Andreas' suggestion at GUADEC I went ahead and registered HappyBirthdayGNOME.com and HappyBirthdayGNOME.org What should we have on the site? This is a fantastic idea - thanks for making it happen! A few ideas: * Leave a birthday message (probably too much work, and would require moderation, but would be nice) * Some stats which summarise our accomplishments - number of commits, committers, bugs fixed, releases, companies involved, number of GUADECs, Foundation members, etc * A super short history - In 1997 two university students set out to create a Free Software desktop... I think it is important that the site is forward looking also. Here's to another 15 years carries a good message. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME News
Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Meeting at GUADEC sounds like a great idea. When would work for everyone? I don't know of any BOF that I'm 100% attending yet. Yep, a meeting sounds good. I'm fully booked for the first two BoF days (30th 31st of July), but could do the 1st if anyone is free then. Otherwise, we can try and organise something informally during the conference itself. There should be time. It might also be good to continue the discussion here - that'll give people who won't be at GUADEC (/ME waves to Sri and Christy) a chance to comment, and will maybe help to spur discussion when we do meet. So let me sketch a rough plan for how news could work... A key goal here needs to be keeping any system we have a simple and lightweight as possible, while still ensuring a regular stream of engaging and high-quality posts. Some ideas: * We aim to have about three posts a week, including a mix of short and long posts on different subjects * We have a set of guidelines on when to post (ie. mid-week, preferably during daylight for North America and Europe) * We have a small editorial team consisting of three or four people * The schedule for posts is planned in advance by the editorial team at a monthly IRC meeting * Each post has an assigned author and editor. It is the editor's job to ensure that the post is delivered on time and that it is checked for quality before posting. * If a post does not meet its deadline, we publish something else instead (hopefully from a queue of backup material) and keep it in a holding pattern until a space in the schedule becomes available * The editors maintain a document containing ideas for content, which anyone can add to. This gets reviewed at each monthly editorial meeting The existing gnome.org site provides almost all the infrastructure we need for this to happen. We can use it to store all our queued material (perhaps with a separate category for backup posts). We can easily use it to give people author and editor roles. Our list of post ideas can be a simple wiki page on live.gnome.org. The only infrastructure question is where to keep the publishing schedule. My personal view is that something semi-private to the editorial team is best for this; a Google Doc would work well, although maybe there's a free option that could work? Thoughts? Opinions? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Plans for GUADEC
Hi all, GUADEC is a great opportunity to generate publicity around GNOME. Marketing can also help people who aren't able to attend to stay in touch with the conference and feel like they are involved. It would be great if we could have a series of GUADEC reports posted on gnome.org during the conference. I'd be happy to write one. Does anyone else want to? Live microblogging would be good also, if we can manage that. One critical factor here will be ensuring that there's Internet access available. Does anyone have any tips for mobile broadband while travelling in Europe? Any other ideas for marketing activities we can do for the conference? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME News
Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should aim for a minimum of 2 posts a week, and if/when there is more to post, not hesitate to do so. Whenever big events (ie GUADEC, GNOME.Asia, etc) occur, its quite likely that we'll have much more content to publish, and limiting ourselves to 3 or so posts a week just seems silly. It also sets ourselves up for irrelevance as we are likely to have time-relative material that only makes sense to publish around the event. Waiting untill afterwards simply because of a pre-determined schedule is likely to make it fall into irrelevance and not get published at all. During GUADEC large portions of our audience are likely to want releveant and up-to-date posts more so than at other times. To clarify - the suggestion for 3 posts a week was a minimum, not a maximum, and the number was just intended to get the discussion going. We can totally change that. :) I would hope that we will include event reports within the schedule, and we will obviously need to be flexible in order to cover events as the happen. That'll take a little bit of running coordination. The main goal of the schedule (and the editorial team) is to ensure that posts are fairly evenly spaced. We don't want too many posts at the same time, and we need to avoid having lengthy dry periods. Using a Google Doc for a rough schedule so as to ensure that we do have content during the 'dead' periods between releases, conferences, etc does make sense. I'd be happy to be an editor/reviewer on the site as I have been doing for the past week or so now. So far its been great, and everyone I've heard from seems to enjoy them. Great - it would be fantastic to have you working on this. I haven't yet committed to any BOF, so the 1st sounds fine to me. What time? It'll be the final day; we ought to make sure that people will be around before making definite arrangements. But maybe 11am would be good? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [guadec-list] Marketing Plans for GUADEC
Chema Casanova jmcasan...@igalia.com wrote: O Mér, 18-07-2012 ás 11:24 +0100, Allan Day escribiu: GUADEC is a great opportunity to generate publicity around GNOME. Marketing can also help people who aren't able to attend to stay in touch with the conference and feel like they are involved. It would be great if we could have a series of GUADEC reports posted on gnome.org during the conference. I'd be happy to write one. Does anyone else want to? From the local team, we are really interested in this, and it would be nice this reports were written from people from the community, this is one of the tasks we would like to do in collaboration with volunteers. The same for uploading pictures from the conference. Fantastic! I wonder what the best way to organise this would be? Could you provide me with a list of volunteers, perhaps? And maybe we could meet on the first day of the conference to work out the details? ... Wifi will be available at the venue but with 250 people in the same room ... Thanks, that's really useful. Any other ideas for marketing activities we can do for the conference? We would like to prepare an area to do video interviews with speakers that could be published in the web. That would be great! Do you have video equipment arranged? Perhaps we could work together to draw up and plan and some interview questions? If we do make videos, it would be great to be able to quickly get them online. I guess that means we'll need to figure out arrangements for processing and editing. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME News
Hey all, There's recently been some discussion about doing more in the news department. This is something we've been trying to move forward for some time but have struggled to make any progress with. Emily's done a good job getting some posts out in the past few days though, and I'm hopeful that we can get something going. The previous incarnation of our plans was to create a separate GNOME News site, which would take over some duties from news.gnome.org. Christy did a great job trying to make that happen, but I think it was probably too ambitious. Taking a simpler approach and using the existing blog at gnome.org/news seems like a more realistic option. To make this work, we'll need a few things: * Review of posts before publication * A schedule for posts and a list of ideas for future material * Publishing of posts in a choreographed fashion * Regular meetings to plan ahead * Display of authors on the website * A more interesting looking news page [1] Making this happen shouldn't be too hard. The main thing we'll need is a small group of editors to keep things rolling along. Sri and Emily have already said that they'd like to help, and I'll chip in (more help will definitely be welcome though). The next step is to get together to work out the details. We can do this online or at GUADEC if there will be enough people there. Thoughts? Allan [1] http://www.gnome.org/news/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Interviews and Gnomers
Hey Alex, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: ... As I haven't an answer back yet, is it ok to publish Elena's interview and you can collect it when you're ready on Gnome.org? Do you want me to signed it as This interview is made for Gnome Foundation or something? My advice would be to publish when you're ready. If we want to publicise the interview, we can post something on gnome.org with a link to your site. You don't need to attribute to the GNOME Foundation or anything - you've done the work; it's your interview. Thanks for your work! Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Interviews and Gnomers
Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: ... I asked Alex whether he'd be prepared to be an author on GNOME News, so these are being submitted for publication on gnome.org/news - do you not think that's a good idea? I thought we were actively looking for authors for original material for the news site. ... Ah, sorry - I hadn't quite realised. The reason I didn't suggest that was simply that we haven't carried that kind of content on gnome.org in the past. Carrying more news on the main gnome.org site could make a lot of sense though, and it's actually something I've been interested in doing for a while. If we were to carry more in-depth news content on gnome.org, the site might need some work (posts aren't shown as being provided by individual authors right now, for example; also there's no comments system, and it doesn't particularly look like a news site). More importantly, we don't have an editorial system, either to ensure quality or to schedule and organise new posts. All of this could be corrected, of course, and this could be a good opportunity to think about what direction we want to take. I can potentially help a little, but I don't have much time for marketing work at the moment. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Better quality images in Gnome Live?
Hi Alex, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: ... I am looking for better quality in the tentative design images you print in Gnome Live. ... and other modules are in so poor quality that you can't even read the text on them. Can I please have another source for them? We don't produce hi-resolution mockups for every design - it would be too time consuming. What you see on those pages is everything we have. If you want a larger version of an image, you are best to contact the designer who made them (check the wiki page history). Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Microblogging Workflow
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is Tweetdeck. I'd be really happy to use that on a shared GNOME account. Hmmm, there seem to be a lot of proprietary solutions for this. But hopefully we can do better - have you looked into tricklepost? Could that work for what we need? I'll do some further digging too! I had a look at Tricklepost, but it doesn't seem relevant. Have you discovered anything useful? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Microblogging Workflow
Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is Tweetdeck. I haven't seen why using at doesn't do what we want. Have I missed that? ... If you schedule posts, other contributors need to be able to see what has been scheduled. Otherwise you could easily end up with conflicts. And I don't want to have to leave a machine running to know that a post will be made. We might want to schedule posts weeks in advance. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Microblogging Workflow
Anthony Papillion anth...@papillion.me wrote: ... Tweetdeck is great except it's not really for group microblogging. I'm part of a crisis mappers group and we use a service called Timely to coordinate tweeting as a team. It's great and it lets people collaborate on the tweets sent out, track metrics, reach, etc. I believe the site is www.time.ly but if that's not it let me know and I'll dig it up. Thanks for the suggestion, Anthony! It looks like Timely [1] does automatic scheduling of posts rather than allowing you to schedule them for a specific time in the future... is that right? Allan [1] http://timely.is -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Microblogging Workflow
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony Papillion anth...@papillion.me wrote: ... Tweetdeck is great except it's not really for group microblogging. I'm part of a crisis mappers group and we use a service called Timely to coordinate tweeting as a team. It's great and it lets people collaborate on the tweets sent out, track metrics, reach, etc. I believe the site is www.time.ly but if that's not it let me know and I'll dig it up. Thanks for the suggestion, Anthony! It looks like Timely [1] does automatic scheduling of posts rather than allowing you to schedule them for a specific time in the future... is that right? ... Could it be that Buffer [1] is what we need? Allan [1] http://bufferapp.com/ -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Rollup Display
Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 05/27/2012 01:41 PM, Tobias Mueller wrote: Hey folks :) I got the rollup-display. You can see it in action here: http://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/blog/2012-LinuxTag/20120524_001.jpg That looks great, cool to see it in action! I agree - excellent stuff. bikeshedIt might even look better without the other posters you've got there./bikeshed Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Microblogging Workflow
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: ... I really need a way to schedule microblogging posts. ... This leaves two options that I can see: 1. Change our workflow so that we publish posts on Twitter and push them to Identi.ca from there. Then use a Twitter client with scheduling capabilities. 2. Use the gnome.org Wordpress install to schedule microblogging posts and push them to Twitter. ... This sounds like a good plan to me - is it easy to use the Wordpress install in that way? I think it would be worth the inconvenience to be able to do this. I'm not a microblogger by nature, but it's really important we have that kind of content out there (and I usually think of things to microblog long after they're relevant, and think darn...) ... I've tried a couple of Wordpress plugins for posting to Identi.ca, but these are generally focused on sending updates when you publish a blog post, and none of them really fitted the bill. Identi.ca itself does have a feature that allows you to generate messages from an RSS/Atom feed (which we could generate using Wordpress), but the feature isn't working for me, for some reason. I'm also starting to think that using Wordpress as a microblogging platform is just wrong. :) The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is Tweetdeck. I'd be really happy to use that on a shared GNOME account. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Microblogging Workflow
Hi all, I do most of the GNOME microblogging, but I often find it difficult to do it effectively. One reason for this is that there currently isn't a way to schedule a post. I'll often think of things that need posting at times when they won't get exposure, or I'll think of three different posts all at once. I really need a way to schedule microblogging posts. Our microblogging posts are currently published on Identi.ca. From there they are pushed to Twitter, and from Twitter to Facebook. I've been unable to find an Ident.ca client that allows scheduling (they do exist for Twitter). This leaves two options that I can see: 1. Change our workflow so that we publish posts on Twitter and push them to Identi.ca from there. Then use a Twitter client with scheduling capabilities. 2. Use the gnome.org Wordpress install to schedule microblogging posts and push them to Twitter. The second option seems nicer to me, because it gives us a common shared platform for publishing news. I'm imagining that we'd have to install a plugin and create a separate news category for microblogging. Potential downside: we clutter the Wordpress install with lots of microblogging guff. Thoughts? Opinions? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Microblogging Workflow
Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Bonjour :) On 17.05.2012 18:17, Allan Day wrote: Thoughts? Opinions? What about writing or enhancing something to schedule a post. Identica is, after all, free software, no? But it can't be terribly hard to implement something like 'sleep 24h identica my message' ... That's a nice idea; it's certainly an option! Would it let me see which messages are queued up? One thing that I liked about the Wordpress idea is that it would let us collaborate in sending out microblogging posts. Contributors could log in and see what messages are in the queue, and they could add their own. People could even help to write posts weeks in advance. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Calendar
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: We have a GNOME community calendar in Google. Maybe we could use that? Thanks Stormy, this does exactly what we need in terms of functionality. Nice to pick something up that already has people signed up to it, too. I'd like to add events to the calendar (hackfests, conferences, release dates) as well as marketing planning dates (when to start preparing release materials, when to post news stories, etc). I hope that's OK. Sounds great! I've added some events and TODO items to the calendar, and I've linked to it from the marketing wiki pages. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Calendar
Hi folks, A little while ago we spoke about setting up a calendar for GNOME marketing. I think this is really needed. (The key requirement for the calendar is that different people can subscribe to it and receive updates as events are added and modified.) We've been testing a Wordpress plugin on the gnome.org test site but I'm not getting the behaviour we need (indeed, I can't subscribe to it from my Google Calendar at all). Does anyone have any bright ideas for how to set up a shared calendar? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Calendar
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: We have a GNOME community calendar in Google. Maybe we could use that? Thanks Stormy, this does exactly what we need in terms of functionality. Nice to pick something up that already has people signed up to it, too. I'd like to add events to the calendar (hackfests, conferences, release dates) as well as marketing planning dates (when to start preparing release materials, when to post news stories, etc). I hope that's OK. I don't know how the find the public url for a Google calendar and I'm in meetings for the rest of the day (but can try later ...), but I invited you to it ... There's html [1], xml [2] and ical [3] Allan [1] https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.comctz=Europe/London [2] https://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic [3] https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Website(s) todo list
Andreas and Christy - thanks so much for putting this list together, it's great to have. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Brian Cameron wrote: While foundation.gnome.org is looking much better, it seems really hard to find pages like: http://www.gnome.org/foundation/governance/ http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/ A couple of relevant bugs: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671795 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671815 I wonder if we could organise an event to get new web hackers involved? Like a GNOME web hack day, or something? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
News posts needed
Hi all, There are a few things happening at the moment that it would be great to have news articles on. As always, we just need something short, informative and tailored to a wide audience. * Foundation board elections [1] * Google Summer of Code announcements [2, 3] * 3.6 feature planning [4, 5] It would be great if anyone wants to write posts for any of these. :) Allan [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-April/msg00015.html [2] http://google-opensource.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/students-announced-for-google-summer-of.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed:+GoogleOpenSourceBlog+%28Google+Open+Source+Blog%29 [3] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-April/msg00176.html [4] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/ [5] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-April/thread.html -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, April 2, 2012 9:30 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: So, what your saying is that its really hard to get a good GNOME 3 install on Mageia and therefor it shouldn't be on the list of distros, correct? I get that. Theres a reason we don't list *every* distro on the page afterall! Maybe we should come up with a concrete set of 'rules' to be listed and then work our way through a list of distros and rule them in or out as we go. Another thought - Is there any reason we can't have a link on this page saying, see other distributions using GNOME, where we have a separate page and add anyone who asks or makes sense to add? I would hope to avoid the need for another page... Also, we should think about adding Pandora as another footnote, saying that GNOME 3 is available on a fully free distribution there, because that represents a slightly different ideological issue (while not meeting our criteria for inclusion in general, it fills a niche that a real subset of our users may be interested in knowing about). Do you have a link to any information about Pandora? I can't find any. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
Hey all, My view is that this page should help newcomers get hold of GNOME 3, either to try it or run it full time. This is the main place on the web for people to get this information. It is a prominent public-facing page. The focus should be on assisting non-experts, therefore. We know there is a lot of demand for this, thanks to our new super awesome web stats - the getting GNOME page receives a lot of inbound traffic, and generates a lot of outbound traffic to the major distros also. If someone is interested in a less popular distro, I think we can assume they already have some technical expertise, and that they have the skills to find the information they require. With this in mind, we used some rough criteria when selecting the distros to include when this page the first time round. These went roughly: * provide a complete (or almost complete) GNOME 3 experience, which is reasonably close to upstream * make it easy for a novice to get GNOME 3 * if they don't include GNOME 3 out of the box, have a single link we can include to provide instructions or automatically install it (preferably not requiring the use of a command line) When GNOME 3.0 came out, that lead us to include Fedora and openSUSE, if I recall correctly. Ubuntu was added once their GNOME 3 ppa was ready. I think it's important to recognise that this page isn't a popularity contest or a statement about which distros GNOME likes and which it doesn't. Its primary purpose is to help newcomers get started using GNOME 3. It is also a nice place to illustrate the communities and values associated with GNOME, of course, and this page can do a bit of that, but this shouldn't detract from its primary focus. Having a less prominent secondary list of distros which include GNOME 3, but maybe aren't as easy to get started with, seems like a good compromise to me. How we select that list of distros is a little tricky, of course. (But I do think we should have some criteria for this.) On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 03:40:41PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: So what about the others then? I forgot about the Amazing Distro X! :) I felt that the instructions for Arch (GNOME is available in the _extra_ repository), Mageia (GNOME 3 is coming in the next I don't like this change. I help out at Mageia. And the standard Mageia doesn't provide the correct GNOME. Saying: Check out their websites for more details. while GNOME 3 is only in the next version, by default you only get gnome-shell and not e.g. gnome-documents... The purpose of getting GNOME page is to explain how you can get GNOME. The text on the getting-gnome is totally inaccurate. If you don't want Mageia there, remove it. But if you want to say how to get GNOME, then explain how to get GNOME. Does the current version of Mageia let you get a complete (or near complete) GNOME 3? (Not just the shell - the apps, wallpaper, font, visual theme, control center, etc etc). It seems strange distro to have on the getting GNOME page if it doesn't have that. Either way, I don't think it should be our responsibility to maintain instructions for installing GNOME 3 on distros. If we did that for every distro on that page, it would quickly become a mess and maintenance burden. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
I want Mageia to be removed from this list the way it is now. You're not getting GNOME 3 with the stated instructions. As such, I don't want it in there. I'd be sorry to see it removed. Would it be possible for Mageia to host instructions explaining how to install GNOME 3, do you think? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing calendar
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Bonjour :) On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:11:25PM -0600, Christy Eller wrote: Yes, but I think what Allan was looking for was a reminder email. Well, it should be rather easy to convert Events from a standard format like ical to emails. So if you provide a .ical file, one can parse that rather easily and send emails based on the results. My requirements: * Integration with common email clients (Google, Evolution, Thunderbird, etc) - I want to see the marketing calendar alongside my existing calendar * Ability to edit the calendar - updated should get passed out to clients I don't see a need for email reminders right now and, as Tobi suggests, I assume that people will be able to set up email reminders based on the calendar, should they want them. In the meeting we discussed the possibility of a calendar hosted on Wordpress or an .ics file hosted on the GNOME infrastructure. Wordpress would probably lower the barrier to editing for many contributors. However, I do have a couple of concerns there: * Not exposing the calendar too much on the site. gnome.org is for public consumption, and this calendar is very much for internal purposes only (as much as we ever have something that is internal) * Keeping track of changes. It would be annoying if changes were made to the calendar and it wasn't clear what those changes were or who had made them. This is a problem that Git and the GNOME infrastructure has solved... Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing calendar
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Luc Pionchon pionchon@gmail.com wrote: ... * Not exposing the calendar too much on the site. Why? Isn't GNOME an open collaborative project? gnome.org is the first point of contact before people get into the nitty gritty. A calendar on there could appear as if it has general significance for the whole project, rather than being specific to the work done by the marketing team. I'm just saying that the calendar should be exposed in the appropriate place. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release notes announcement to press
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Hey, The release notes have now been finalized. Does someone have contacts with the press? If so, please share below with them. Details: URL: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.4/ Username: gnome Password: 3.4 I've finished my final changes this morning. Please check the notes over for errors. I've also got a couple of zip files containing screenshot packs. It would be great if we could make these available to the press somehow. The 3.4 screenshots are now available for download: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/teams/marketing/en/2012/three-four-screenshots/ Feel free to share the link with members of the press. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release notes announcement to press
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Hey, The release notes have now been finalized. Does someone have contacts with the press? If so, please share below with them. Details: URL: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.4/ Username: gnome Password: 3.4 I've finished my final changes this morning. Please check the notes over for errors. I've also got a couple of zip files containing screenshot packs. It would be great if we could make these available to the press somehow. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GSoC News Post
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Here comes another rough draft (around noon today I sent a reply only to Allan's mail address... note to myself, learn how reply to a mailist). 'Reply to all' is your friend. :) The GNOME project accepted as an participant organization in Google Summer of Code 2012 (headline) For the 7th year the GNOME project will participate in the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) program. Google Summer of Code is an opportunity for post-secondary students to contribute code to open source projects during summer vacation and get paid for successful contributions. This year edition of Google Summer of Code is between May 21 - August 24 , the deadline for submissions is April 6. The GNOME project offer students several interesting projects to work on, a list with suggestions is available at http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2012/Ideas It is also possible to submit your own idea. [a quote from a member of the GNOME foundation that say something about GSoC as a great way to get involved in the GNOME project/open source] For more information about requirements and how to apply please visit http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2012/Students This draft is very minimal maybe it can be extended in some way. Thanks for your help, Oliver! This looks really good. I'll combine your and Emily's work and try and publish later today. Best, Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release Notes Edits
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: I've just read over the release notes in git. Sorry for not doing this sooner. I realize the notes are already supposed to be frozen, so I've listed only things that I think are critical language problems. ... Thanks for your help Shaun! I just went to make these corrections, but it seems that Andre beat me to it. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GSoC News Post
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Here comes another rough draft (around noon today I sent a reply only to Allan's mail address... note to myself, learn how reply to a mailist). 'Reply to all' is your friend. :) The GNOME project accepted as an participant organization in Google Summer of Code 2012 (headline) For the 7th year the GNOME project will participate in the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) program. Google Summer of Code is an opportunity for post-secondary students to contribute code to open source projects during summer vacation and get paid for successful contributions. This year edition of Google Summer of Code is between May 21 - August 24 , the deadline for submissions is April 6. The GNOME project offer students several interesting projects to work on, a list with suggestions is available at http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2012/Ideas It is also possible to submit your own idea. [a quote from a member of the GNOME foundation that say something about GSoC as a great way to get involved in the GNOME project/open source] For more information about requirements and how to apply please visit http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2012/Students This draft is very minimal maybe it can be extended in some way. Thanks for your help, Oliver! This looks really good. I'll combine your and Emily's work and try and publish later today. Done! Thanks again Emily and Oliver; you've written a nice little article. http://www.gnome.org/news/2012/03/gnome-to-participate-in-google-summer-of-code-2012/ Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Press Release
Thanks to Emily and Eleanor for volunteering! It's important that we start approaching people for quotations as soon as possible. I've seen a few suggestions already - let's draw up a list of potential quotees and go from there. I'll be on IRC all day. Allan On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Dave Neary dne...@free.fr wrote: Excellent, thanks Eleanor! When do you think you'll have time for a first draft? Thanks, Dave. Eleanor Chen cheny...@gmail.com wrote: Please allow me to write a draft. Eleanor On Tuesday, March 20, 2012, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 09:12:28AM +, Allan Day wrote: We should already be making progress with the press release for the 3.4 release. Is anyone willing to take it on? Ping. We're going to be in real trouble if someone doesn't get started with this (we might already be). Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- It is the time you have spent for your rose that makes your rose so important. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GSoC News Post
Hi all, I thought I'd throw this out there, in case anyone is interested in doing it. GNOME has recently been accepted for the upcoming Google Summer of Code. It'd be great to have a short news post for gnome.org about it. It can be very minimal - what GSoC is, what we'll be doing, when it'll be running, how people can apply. Get in touch if you want to help; I'm happy to act as editor. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting - Friday March 23rd - 8:00am PDT/15:00 GMT
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Greetings, Apparently, my mail last week didn't get sent because I sent it to marketing-list-request instead of marketing-list. Please find, the new meeting time on Friday (everything else nobody else could make) at 8:00am PDT / 15:00 GMT. Hopefully, I made allowances for daylight savings. :-) That's good for me. See you then! Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Press Release
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 09:12:28AM +, Allan Day wrote: We should already be making progress with the press release for the 3.4 release. Is anyone willing to take it on? Ping. We're going to be in real trouble if someone doesn't get started with this (we might already be). Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? Google Hangouts are really nice for video conferencing. I find them more effective than IRC for meetings, plus it's more personal. But we can use IRC if anyone has a serious objection. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: ... In the past year and a half, I've come to really appreciate video calls. In my experience, meetings held via video are universally more on track and productive. I much prefer them over phone only calls now. ... That's been my recent experience too. It'd be great to avoid Google but I'm yet to find a good alternative. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) Agenda: * talk about the GNOME 3.4 release * Current marketing projects http://www.doodle.com/2ya325ssgyat9zpd Thanks for kick starting this, Sri. It looks like we've had a decent number of responses already. I've started adding some agenda items to the wiki [1]. Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
3.4 Press Release
Hey all, We should already be making progress with the press release for the 3.4 release. Is anyone willing to take it on? I'm going to be busy with the release notes, but I'll chip in where I can. Best, Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Press Release
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 09:12:28AM +, Allan Day wrote: We should already be making progress with the press release for the 3.4 release. Is anyone willing to take it on? I'm going to be busy with the release notes, but I'll chip in where I can. You mentioned yesterday that ideally you wanted the release-notes to be split: - high level overview of new features - link to detailed notes IMO that is a great idea. Then for the press release, we IMO (aside from the standard texts), we should use the same high level overview. In the release-notes we can link everything in the high level overview to the various sections. In the press release there should just be a pointer to the release notes. The www.gnome.org news item could be the same. For 3.4 it would just be something in the Introduction section. For 3.6 we can look at mallard, etc. Do you agree? It certainly makes sense to have a high-level description of the key features that we can reuse or adapt for the different pieces of writing. I also like the idea of linking to sections in the release notes from the press release. I'm working on the release notes today and I'm trying to structure them so that they provide a set of highlights. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Release Notes
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Vinicius Depizzol vdepiz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 18:53, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: My main objection would be translation. One of the problems is that I would like to see our content/news/release notes translated so that we can have greater coverage. I feel that english makes us somewhat limited. We can have WordPress content translated and integrated with damned-lies with the plugin I developed during the last Summer of Code[1]. I'm in contact with Claude Paroz (damned-lies maintainer) and Andrea Veri (sysadmin) to get a testing version of it running ASAP. [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-wppo We're pretty much out of time for this. We should really have a draft of the release notes finished already. I'm busy working on them using the existing infrastructure. It will be great to have gnome.org translatable anyway, of course, and I really hope that we can use the site for the 3.6 release notes. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Release Notes
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 03/07/2012 10:28 AM, Allan Day wrote: Now, a question. We typically keep the release notes secret until the release itself. At least one member of the press has told me that this makes it quite difficult for him to cover GNOME releases, since there is little information about the release until it is actually out. Is there a way we can disclose what will be in the release prior to release day itself? Maybe the release notes could be made public with the release candidate, for example? It would be really useful to know what other projects do in this regard. I'm all in favour of working on the release notes in a publicly accessible repository, even in the wiki (although adding pretty screenshots is not easy in the wiki). We can of course avoid publicising the URL until the release comes out, but having the notes developed in the open will allow people to get a head-start, as you point out Allan. Cheers, Dave. That might help. However, I feel that we need something a bit more proactive to get the word out to journalists. We might struggle to do it for this release, but having a separate press release and some kind of release notes for the release candidate could be a good way to get the word out. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Release Notes
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:59 +, Allan Day wrote: We might struggle to do it for this release, but having a separate press release and some kind of release notes for the release candidate could be a good way to get the word out. Release Candidate = two weeks before the release. Oh? The schedule [1] says it's one week before the release. String freeze is three weeks before the release and we are always late starting with writing release notes and finding volunteers so rather unlikely. It was just an idea. But I don't see why we couldn't aim to have *something* (it doesn't have to be the full, finished release notes) ready a week in advance. Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Release Notes
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: I was thinking of switching from Docbook to Mallard for 3.6 (I didn't have time to prepare this for 3.4 already). The advantages of GNOME 3 page style are unclear to me currently, Advantages of moving over to using Wordpress for the release notes (that I can think of): 1. The notes will be on gnome.org rather than under library.gnome.org/misc (why are the notes for our new release in a 'library'? why are they 'miscellaneous'?) 2. Avoid the bookishness of the format (sub-headings everywhere, boxes of links interrupting the flow of the document), which is rather stilted. 3. Allow embedding of richer media, such as lightboxes, image galleries and videos. 4. Allow flexible design, facilitating a more stylish and attractive layout. 5. Allow division of the notes into separate pages, rather than being a single *huge* page. however I would first have to know what markup language this move would imply, Wordpress reduces the need for markup. The only markup you need is html for formatting and embedding media, plus for bits of fancier page layout. plus if anybody would be actually willing to prepare this move. Actually writing the notes and doing the markup would be less work than with Docbook or Mallard, so in that respect we'd save time and effort. However, we would need a bit of extra help on the web development side if we wanted to make the notes look really nice. I'm interested in this as well. As Shaun noted about translations I would like to see this translated in as many languages as possible. We'll need to start on this soon. Most of the pieces are in place to make gnome.org translatable using the standard GNOME infrastructure. We just need to hook it up to damn lies [1]. I've spoken to Vinicius and he's confident that we can have it ready in time to get the release notes translated. Allan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671647 -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.4 Release Notes
Thanks for kicking this off, Andre! I'll be sure to chip in where I can. My last blog post [1] might be useful, too. Now, a question. We typically keep the release notes secret until the release itself. At least one member of the press has told me that this makes it quite difficult for him to cover GNOME releases, since there is little information about the release until it is actually out. Is there a way we can disclose what will be in the release prior to release day itself? Maybe the release notes could be made public with the release candidate, for example? It would be really useful to know what other projects do in this regard. One other thing that we've spoken about is moving away from the library/documentation format for the release notes. Hosting them directly on gnome.org would give us a lot more freedom in terms of how we present the notes (so they would look more like the GNOME 3 page [2], for example). Allan [1] http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/looking-forward-to-gnome-3-4/ [2] http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: I've committed an initial stub for the 3.4 release notes: http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-4id=87991dfb2c52704db6481ab3c3d78d7dc73d22e7 The required steps are (hopefully) documented on https://live.gnome.org/AndreKlapper/WritingReleaseNotes @fpeters: Could you please set up http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.4/ with password protection? andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME News - Progress and Plans
Hi all, A potential GNOME News redesign [1] has been brought up on this list a few times in the past. We really need a better channel for distributing and generating news about GNOME, something that can handle original content as well as content that is syndicated. Christy Eller has recently stepped up to the plate to create a better GNOME news platform for us, and she has made some good progress. Christy has been working on a new Wordpress-based web site. The idea is that it will eventually be hosted at news.gnome.org. The new site is intended to do several things: 1. Aggregate news feeds just like the current news site does 2. Carry a stream of original news posts about GNOME (ie. be a news blog) 3. Provide an easy way for new contributors to get involved in writing GNOME news 4. Be a vibrant and engaging place The new site will host a stream of news posts that can be subscribed to (initially through rss/atom), as well as facilities for contributing and generating content. Christy already has a test site [2] that she is working on. A key aim for the new site is to consolidate and maximise the return we get on our existing news efforts. We are already creating a regular stream of stories on gnome.org [3], but we get little back from that effort in the way of new contributors or subscribers to GNOME news. With the new site, we can generate our news at a single location and then feed it to other sites. The news section on the gnome.org homepage can come direct from news.gnome.org, for instance. However, there are some outstanding questions that still need answering: * Should we have a comments system on the new site? * Where should official announcements, such as press releases, be made? Do they have to be hosted on gnome.org in order to look official, or could they go on news.gnome.org, for example? * What does this mean for the role of GNOME Journal, if anything? Please let us know what your thoughts are on these plans. It would also be helpful to hear ideas for these outstanding questions. Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/NewsRedesign [2] http://news-test.gnome.org/ [3] http://www.gnome.org/news/ -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME News - Progress and Plans
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 03/01/2012 11:26 AM, Allan Day wrote: ... Thanks for the update! Looks like things are coming along nicely. Any feedback from the Journal authors editors? Are they involved in the news rework at this point? To be an effective news site, we will need to be very selective about the content we agrgegate - I don't want, for example, an announce mailing list RSS stream sent straight to the site - and see half of the front page with fixed-width font that doesn't fit with the rest of the site. And we definitely need editorial control on what gets promoted to/included on the main news site to keep people coming back. The current plan is to have two streams of content on news.gnome.org. The primary stream will be original content, the secondary stream will be aggregated from other sites in the same manner as the current news.gnome.org site. You'll still be able to see (and subscribe to) the aggregated content, but it won't have equal weight. However, there are some outstanding questions that still need answering: * Should we have a comments system on the new site? Yes, definitely. * Where should official announcements, such as press releases, be made? Do they have to be hosted on gnome.org in order to look official, or could they go on news.gnome.org, for example? I'd keep proper press releases somewhere else - the news site shouldn't just be a regurgitated press release, it should be a less formal, potentially more informative, commentary on the press release. Makes sense. * What does this mean for the role of GNOME Journal, if anything? I'd like to see this *be* the GNOME Journal. I agree with Sri that we need to wait and see how things work out. If GNOME News and the Journal both manage to become living breathing sites, we'll have to try and come up with a sensible division of labour (GNOME News sticking to current news and the Journal doing in-depth articles, for example). What I'd like to see is have people sign up to a newsletter if they want, and have a monthly Best of GNOME News newsletter sent out, with links to the original articles top stories of the month. That would be great indeed. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME News - Progress and Plans
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 10:26:03AM +, Allan Day wrote: 1. Aggregate news feeds just like the current news site does So all existing feeds would be preserved? ... Currently the idea is to maintain most of the current feeds. There are a few, like the Gtk-perl list, which don't seem to be very helpful. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Brno Hackfest News Coverage
Hi all,
I don't think I'm going to have time to write a Brno report for
gnome.org. Get in touch if you fancy having a go; I'll edit and
there's plenty of material on Planet GNOME.
Best,
Allan
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
That's great - thanks Christy! The schedule has a few notes on it. We
basically want a post before ('we're going to do cool stuff') and a
post afterwards ('we did cool stuff'), plus microblogging during the
event. It would be awesome if you could make sure that the posts get
proofed before they are published...
I signed you up on the wiki, so it's all official now. ;)
Allan
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Christy Eller
iamchristyel...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, I'm happy to- any instructions?
Christy
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The a11y hackfest news coverage is almost done, and the preparations
for the FOSDEM stories are in full swing. Thanks to Juanjo, Christy
and Emily for their contributions!
The next event on the calendar [1] is the Brno hackfest, which will
combine a Gtk+ and a documentation event. Does anyone fancy taking the
lead on this one? It's not a huge amount of work and it would be a
great way to help out.
Allan
[1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/News/ContentPlanning
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Re: Join Mozilla ideas for Friends of GNOME
Thanks for this, Stormy. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I thought the Join Mozilla numbers might be interesting to those of us working on Friends of GNOME. Join Mozilla update: 2/10/12 webmaker, webmakers Following up our successful end-of-year fundraising campaign, January and February have been pretty good so far from a fundraising perspective, despite no aggressive pushes (other than the PS in aSOPA/PIPA email we sent in January). Here’s where we are so far: 2012 online donations to Mozilla: 3,723 2012 online revenue: $78,657.80 Current @Mozilla followers: 4,880 Current email subscribers: 292,263 Lots of email subscribers! Having a GNOME newsletter is something I'd really like to do with the GNOME News site that Christy is working on... Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Deployments page sends the wrong message
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, February 7, 2012 3:30 pm, Christy Eller wrote: Hi- I have been gathering some more info about recent deployments. Thanks to Marina, I have added several more current deployments to our Deployments wiki page, https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments, including a one using GNOME 3.0.2. Thanks for working on this, it's great to have some current information there My suggestion is that we split off the older deployments to another page, called GNOME Deployments 2000-2008. I would prefer to have that info available, but I agree with Joanie that seeing a list of really old deployments could send a negative message. I would rename the current page to Current Gnome Deployments, and would refer to the older deployments page there. I chose those dates, because I want to make sure that the current page has enough data not to look too sparse. That sound really great to me. I agree with you and Joanie that it doesn't look good to have such old information on that main deployments page. I'm trying to track down info on another couple of deployments I know of too. What's this page used for? Is it worth the effort of ongoing maintenance? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Deployments page sends the wrong message
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, February 9, 2012 6:57 am, Allan Day wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, February 7, 2012 3:30 pm, Christy Eller wrote: Hi- I have been gathering some more info about recent deployments. Thanks to Marina, I have added several more current deployments to our Deployments wiki page, https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments, including a one using GNOME 3.0.2. Thanks for working on this, it's great to have some current information there My suggestion is that we split off the older deployments to another page, called GNOME Deployments 2000-2008. I would prefer to have that info available, but I agree with Joanie that seeing a list of really old deployments could send a negative message. I would rename the current page to Current Gnome Deployments, and would refer to the older deployments page there. I chose those dates, because I want to make sure that the current page has enough data not to look too sparse. That sound really great to me. I agree with you and Joanie that it doesn't look good to have such old information on that main deployments page. I'm trying to track down info on another couple of deployments I know of too. What's this page used for? Is it worth the effort of ongoing maintenance? In the most general way, I think it's important to have a place where we show people where GNOME is being used. More specifically, I have wanted to point potential new partners to this page but have hesitated because it's so out of date. It's nice to be able to show folks that GNOME is used successfully in real endeavours. Were the page somewhat current, we could also use it as a reference for grant applications and the like. OK, just checking. :) Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Le lundi 06 février 2012, à 08:48 -0700, Stormy Peters a écrit : I 100% support having a table cloth and a roll up self-standing banner in both of the event boxes. We should make sure the roll up self-standing banner can fit in the event boxes, though. I'm thinking it's too big for the newest event box, but that's just a guess. That's what I was thinking too. :) Same goes for any additional merchanise we want to include. I'm sure there's room for stickers, but what about mugs or even USB sticks? Could whoever has the box check to see how much space there is? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Heya :) On 07.02.2012 11:48, Olav Vitters wrote: The information leaflets are in black and white [...] ^^ send me a (link to a) PDF and I'll print Yeah, well. I guess we'd need a leaflet first ;-) I prepared something here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/flyer-for-conferences Feel free to add or thoughts, or better yet: Work on it ;-) Cheers, Tobi We should figure out what the leaflets are for and who the audience will be. For FOSDEM we don't really need 'What is GNOME' leaflets, for example (or am I wrong). However, leaflets for Friends of GNOME or even GNOME Love might be more appropriate. Since we're discussing new tablecloths, stickers, banners and leaflets, we should also make sure that they have a consistent look. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME FOSDEM Stand
Hi all, Thanks to everyone who staffed the GNOME stand at FOSDEM! It was great to have so many enthusiastic volunteers. If you were there - how did you think the stand worked, and what could we improve for next time? I thought our visual presence was pretty good, and the videos we showed on the demo machine were good. It was also really great to have information posted up about upcoming GNOME talks - that was a great idea. As was brought up on the list recently, I also thought it would be good to organise the stand around a more engaging activity. Friends of GNOME sign up was one idea there. Technical demonstrations was another. We could also do things like a GNOME Love/Hate board or a suggestions box or even a game that people can play at the stand. Any other ideas? The other thing I thought was that the stand would be better if we had more in the way of merchandise (pens, mugs, keyrings, usb sticks, a greater range of stickers, etc etc). We also need new banners (some of which are looking like they have seen better days) and a big GNOME tablecloth (I was also envious of the roll-up vertical banners that the other stands had). Do we know if there is room in the box for those things? Who has the box at the moment? Perhaps we could organise for it to be restocked? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
