Changing marketing areas to engagement
We made a big decision today to change marketing to engagement. So, we will be moving immediately to the #engagement channel. but we will also need to start moving all the marketing pages to engagement as well. We will need to figure out how to do that. It might be that we can do it as part of the live.gnome.org work that Tiffany is doing. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Release change proposal
Hey guys, thanks for doing this! We do need to make changes to how we release software. Let me make some comments below. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, after the QA with the board of this morning session, I discussed with Spider, and we thought that instead of having _one_ person in charge of aggregating all the changes once the release is done, we could spread this work among all of us. So, here is the formal proposal we wrote: Will you ratify this with the rest of the release team? Change proposal: The basic idea is that we shouldn't overload maintainers, but we should also not require a heroic effort by single person. Effort needs to be spread out amongst many people, and the work needs to be integrated in our normal release practices. Yes, this is a good idea. Having a group would definitely help. Do you have people in mind to do this? Just because you are maintainer, doesn't mean you must do it, you only have to make sure someone does it. It could be required to be documented as part of patch submitting or code review, the way tests, documentation and other things are related to a feature. That's cool, I especially feel that this information must also be shared with the documentation team. Kat was telling me that they would know about new features after the fact. Documentation is especially important for me and I would like to make sure that we are making sure that this information especially user visible visual changes are properly communicated by the release team. * All module maintainers should ( in the release cycle ) be clear about what features are added as new and removed. This can involve rationale for the change ( Why did we remove transparency from the terminal? ) but that is not a must. The Marketing team can always ask the maintainers for details. What means do we have to challenge a feature removal? While I respect a maintainer's decision, I'm interested in keeping good relations with our community. Sometimes there are things removed that would be very challenging to defend. * The major changes should be documented between alpha and beta? ( but always before UI freeze ), thus giving us ~3 months before proper release to do user interaction and communication on forums, slashdot and other things. Sounds good. * It is the Release Teams responsibility to ensure that all modules _do_ these feature changes, but it is the module owners responsibility to _write_ them or make someone write it for them. If they do not.. what would be the consequences? Do we delay release? * Marketing team should follow these changes and work from them to avoid major user hostility that may be caused by missing features. Sounds good. * Marketing should work on this to inform users/ slowly drip changes to public attention _before_ the code drops as stable. We should provide suggestions as well. ( Note that just because this is documented, the code doesn't need to be removed at this time, but the _intention_ should be very clear. ) It's free software, we do change our minds at times. The bikeshed should be green. Sure. I see that you've put some thought into this and I thank you for that! I do have some other changes that i think would help. We are contantly criticized when extensions break. I would like ot make sure that we have an image available for people to download and try out. There should be at least a week of user testing. We should make sure that things work for the most part. sri Cheers, Benjamin Spider -- https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/board-list From time to time confidential and sensitive information will be discussed on this mailing list. Please take care to mark confidential information as confidential, and do not redistribute this information without permission. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I submitted it today with Rosanna as the contact person! They said they review them on a rolling basis so we should hear back in the next couple of weeks. Stormy Thank you, Stormy for doing this. Much appreciated! sri On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, July 18, 2013 2:34 pm, Stormy Peters wrote: I have that number. I have no idea if it's a number that should be kept private or not. When I fill out the form, I'd rather not be the contact person. Should I put Karen's name or someone else? I suggest Rosanna, but I'm happy for it to be me too :) karen Stormy On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 July 2013 21:16, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, July 17, 2013 4:00 pm, Stormy Peters wrote: The forms are in the link in the original email below. No login required. The only piece of info that people might not have handy is the federal id. Awesome! And I've got that and it's public info: the EIN is 04-3572618 It also asks for the customer ID for the AdWords account. karen Stormy On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, July 17, 2013 1:05 pm, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: On 17 July 2013 17:07, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: If we want to do it, I can fill out the form. It's very simple. Is the information which is needed to fill this out recorded somewhere so that other people can do it? I just searched everything I have and I don't have it. Stormy tried to add me as an admin to the account but that never went through (I never received the email). Perhaps Rosanna or Stormy has it? karen But then we should probably figure out what we want to do with it ... Stormy On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Date: Jul 16, 2013 11:08 AM Subject: Fwd: Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form To: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Cc: We need to renew if we want to keep this. It took 6 months to get it the first time around ... Stormy Yeah we should do this. Anybody want to volunteer? -- Forwarded message -- From: “Google Grants” googlegra...@google.com Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:07 PM Subject: Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form To: sto...@gnome.org Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form Dear Google Grantee, The Google Grants renewal window is now open. Our renewal policy is in place to ensure that your organization is in fact still a registered nonprofit, and that your AdWords account is compliant with the Google Grants policies and guidelines. Any Google Grantee who has been in the program six months or longer is required to renew their eligibility. Please complete the renewal form, located on the renewal FAQ page, within the next three weeks: Renewal FAQs and forms We will review organizations on a rolling basis. As we have many Google Grants accounts to review, you may not receive your notification decision for several weeks. Your account will remain active and running while you wait to hear back from us. Please refer to the renewal FAQs for more information. Sincerely, The Google Grants Team Please note: this email acts as a notification only. Please do not reply. © 2013 Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043 You've received this mandatory service announcement email to update you about important changes to your Google Grants AdWords account. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing bof?
When are we doing teh marketing bof again? I seem to have forgotten. Also, Alex are you (or Bill) planning on coming to GUADEC? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing bof?
Great, thanks Fabiana, I'll stick it in my calendar. Alex - I'm sorry that you won't be able to attend. It would have been great to meet and talk strategic things. But I completely understand about deadlines. :) On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: Sri, Marketing BoF will be on August 6th, during the morning (Web on August 6th, during the afternoon, and ideally FoG on August 7th). Fabiana On 07/20/2013 01:49 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: When are we doing teh marketing bof again? I seem to have forgotten. Also, Alex are you (or Bill) planning on coming to GUADEC? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form
Probably can have an IRC meeting... if we have enough people in irc at a given time I'll take the opportunity to talk about it. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: If we want to do it, I can fill out the form. It's very simple. But then we should probably figure out what we want to do with it ... Stormy On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Date: Jul 16, 2013 11:08 AM Subject: Fwd: Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form To: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Cc: We need to renew if we want to keep this. It took 6 months to get it the first time around ... Stormy Yeah we should do this. Anybody want to volunteer? -- Forwarded message -- From: “Google Grants” googlegra...@google.com Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:07 PM Subject: Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form To: sto...@gnome.org Action Required: Submit Your Google Grants Renewal Form Dear Google Grantee, The Google Grants renewal window is now open. Our renewal policy is in place to ensure that your organization is in fact still a registered nonprofit, and that your AdWords account is compliant with the Google Grants policies and guidelines. Any Google Grantee who has been in the program six months or longer is required to renew their eligibility. Please complete the renewal form, located on the renewal FAQ page, within the next three weeks: Renewal FAQs and forms We will review organizations on a rolling basis. As we have many Google Grants accounts to review, you may not receive your notification decision for several weeks. Your account will remain active and running while you wait to hear back from us. Please refer to the renewal FAQs for more information. Sincerely, The Google Grants Team Please note: this email acts as a notification only. Please do not reply. © 2013 Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043 You've received this mandatory service announcement email to update you about important changes to your Google Grants AdWords account. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: propose new time for marketing meeting
OK, I think we have quorum then! Time has been moved to Wednesdays at 18:00 UTC! Fabiana, if it proves too tough for you we will change the timings. Also, I'll make sure that cancellations happen 12 hours in advance so that you don't have to get up and find that the meeting got cancelled. That used to irritate me to no end. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, July 12, 2013 10:14 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: Either time works for me :) me too! karen On Jul 12, 2013 6:51 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I'm flexible.. we can go for 18:00 UTC. That would make it about 11am my time. Earlier in the day is definitely better for me. I don't have any commitments on Wednesday evenings. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
propose new time for marketing meeting
I'd like to propose another time for marketing meeting. I'm hoping to get more people like Brett to participate. Certainly we should look at a different day so that those of us who are on the board don't have two meetings on the same day. I was thinking we could do Wednesdays at 19:00 UTC? What do people think of that? sri -- Sriram Ramkrishna (sriram.ramkrishna_@@_...@.gmail.com (remove _@@_) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: propose new time for marketing meeting
I'm flexible.. we can go for 18:00 UTC. That would make it about 11am my time. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 07/11/2013 10:14 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I'd like to propose another time for marketing meeting. I'm hoping to get more people like Brett to participate. Certainly we should look at a different day so that those of us who are on the board don't have two meetings on the same day. I was thinking we could do Wednesdays at 19:00 UTC? What do people think of that? Thanks for bringing this up. Specifically that time clashes for me on Wednesdays. :) An hour earlier do not. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Pixel photos
Do you mind if I forward this to Dirk? On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: Photos of two of the donated pixels. I tried to get photos from other recipients, but no luck. As far as I am aware, the following people have one: - Allan Day (Red Hat) from Intel - Alexander Larsson (Red Hat) the other donation - Carlos Garnacho (Lanedo) from Intel - David King (Red Hat) from Intel - Jakub Steiner (Red Hat) from Intel - Jasper St. Pierre (Red Hat) from Intel It would be nice to say who got them in the announcement. IMGP* are by Allan Day L1006499 is by me L1006502 is by David King -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: REMINDER: Marketing meeting July 9th 2013 20:00 UTC
Looks like a full docket! We will need to plan accordingly so we can complete on time. On Jul 9, 2013 3:37 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the the reminder, Sri. A few more agenda items: * GUADEC messaging schedule - https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2013/MessagingSchedule * File storage - we need to figure out a plan for where to keep marketing materials Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: want to help with GNOME audcast processing?
I can ask on my google+ page, and on my local mailing list of free software folks and see if there is a bite. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: As some of you know, I recorded some audio of interviews with various GNOME people during my travels. I think most of the recordings should be pretty good - I'd love to publish them as a show but I don't have any experience with audio processing (the show I do with Bradley is produced by a volunteer who knows how this stuff works and also uses all free software to boot). Does anyone here know how to do this and want to help out? I may have a theme song coming from my husband :) thanks! karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
markeiting meeting today
I have not heard much feedback. I know a couple of people cannot make it. Would it work best if I moved it next week to say Wednesday? It's also holidays in the U.S. Let me know. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing meeting Tuesday July 2nd 2013 - 20:00 UTC
Yes, it's a week early. The reason is that three of us have board meetings on Tuesdays at the same time and it would be easier to offset the two meetings so that every week we have a meeting one for the board and one for marketing ni order to not have too many meetings on the same day. Alternatively, we can skip either skip next week's meeting and instead do it the following week, OR do it on another day next week. What do you think? I don't really feel comfortable skipping next week's meeting because we will be close to GUADEC and I think we will have things to discuss. Let me know which one you prefer. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Marketing
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, June 26, 2013 6:34 am, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, We discussed this during yesterday's phone meeting. A few points that stood out for me: * There were some concerns that advocacy sounds too political and forceful * While there was some support for promotion, it was also recognised that this implies one-way communication, and that this might not be the best fit for what we do (or what we aspire to) * Outreach has a life of its own beyond the existing marketing team We clearly promote, engage, advocate and reach out, and each of these terms describes *some* of what we do. As such, I think we need to be focusing on which aspect of our work we want to emphasise. Based on yesterday's conversation, I'm thinking that engagement is probably the best fit, since it emphasises meaningful two-way conversation (something which is close to our mission and our brand identity). Is there something we can come up with an acronym? Like PEERs (promotion, engagement, education, reaching out) or REPs (reach out,engage,promote). Too hokey? Or is it bad that newcomers won't know what it means right away (one of the nice things about reps). I'm ok with engagement too :) I thought of an ancronym too, but I think it just muddles things. But here is one attempt: EPIC? Engage, Promote, Inspire and Communicate team? Of course, it has the advantage of making us feel awesome cuz we are epic. :-) sri karen Allan On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm not sure there is a need of change the term but if so I think promotion is the best fit. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Goodmorning! My reservation about engagement is that it makes it sound like we only work with people who we already have a relationship with. Agree :) So I think my preference is for promotion: I really prefer advocacy but promotions sounds quite good too :) Cheers, Flavia -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
reminder: marketing meeting 20:00 UTC Tuesday June 25th
Greetings, reminder that we have a marketing meeting tomorrow. Any agenda items? 1) Follow up from marketing hackfest 2) update on annual report 3) Marketing GUADEC We could discuss the tasks that our OPW intern - Tiffany is doing. Stef, since you're doing some work for us, please be welcome to attend! Thanks, folks -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Promo Video Animation Mockup
Pretty sweet, Bastian. I'm getting a much better idea of what you're thinking here. My only issue is that it's sort of cold in a star trekkie kind of way. It would be great to also have a contrasting video full of warm colors, smiles, and so forth as well. I think this video might appeal to one cross section of our users. What do other people think? Great voice over btw! I like your voice. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Bastian Hougaard gn...@rvzt.net wrote: Hi #marketing! I am doing some progress on the promotion video. I have spent the last weeks finding solutions to various problems the creation of this animation introduces. Me and sri held a meeting yesterday and we decided that I should do a mockup of the animation and hear what the rest of you think. The mockup can be watched here (it has sound btw): http://rvzt.net/Temp/crappymatic.avi I recommend you to read the storyboard first to get an idea. http://rvzt.net/Temp/Storyboard%20Pieces%20Falling.pdf Yes, I did mess up the order of events but that was of course not my intention. Other than that, all feedback is welcome! As soon as my examn period is over I will look into creating the actual animation. :-) Best Regards, Bastian/Urne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
another SIP client
So I found another SIP client that seems to be actively being developed and seems to be integrated with evolution and has some fancy features. I'd like to test to see if it works for people: https://freecode.com/projects/sflphone sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome.org/news and the community calendar
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2013 16:14, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Sun, June 16, 2013 6:14 pm, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: Hi all, could someone add a post each about GUADEC and Open Help to gnome.org/news, and update the community calendar? In general, how does one request posts for gnome.org/news? I couldn't find this information anywhere and the wiki was slightly vague about the subject in general. hey Kat, this is done pretty much as you've done it - by emailing the marketing list. Did you want to take a first stab at writing these news items? I can assist getting it on the website and can help edit too! Hey, it would be pretty awesome if one of the marketing team members could do this! Let me see if I can get one of our volunteers to look at this rather than a regular. In terms of Open Help, we're hacking on developer docs for the next two days. GUADEC wise, there's plenty to write about! I'll update the wiki to make this a bit more clear as soon as I have a moment spare :) :D karen Thanks in advance! Kat -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing meeting Tuesday June 10th 20:00 UTC
I have a sudden conflict and will not be able to make the meeting. I'm hesitant to cancel, but if there is not enough participant please feel free to go ahead and do that. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.itwrote: Hi! I will try to be there, let's hope my connection will work properly! :) Cheers, Flavia -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing meeting Tuesday June 10th 20:00 UTC
Agenda items? Things we need to follow up from the marketing hackfest? Let me know, -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Marketing
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I don't have a preference but agree that the term marketing is misleading. As a reference point, at Mozilla it's Engagement. Then within Engagement there is user contributor engagement, developer engagement, websites, product marketing and brand. I think most people equate marketing to product marketing. I was going to respond that engagement is the best fit. It's also generic enough that we can apply to everything or anything we do. My vote is for 'engagement'. sri Stormy On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Marketing is associated with corporations, and is done by marketing professionals. I've often felt that the term isn't a good fit for what we do in GNOME, and I suspect that it puts some people off contributing. We discussed this during the recent hackfest, and it seems that there's support for changing GNOME Marketing to a different term. Ideas that we discussed include promotion, outreach, engagement and advocacy. What do people think of this? Do you have a preference for the name? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Marketing
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: ... I was going to respond that engagement is the best fit. It's also generic enough that we can apply to everything or anything we do. My vote is for 'engagement'. My reservation about engagement is that it makes it sound like we only work with people who we already have a relationship with. It also implies that our work only concerns deep and long-lasting relationships. So I think my preference is for promotion: Noun Activity that supports the furtherance of a cause, venture, or aim. The publicization of a product, organization, or venture to increase sales or public awareness. This is a pretty good description of what we do. Allan OK, I'm not too hung up on engagement. I'm okay with promotion as well. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
other conferences that we should have a presence at
Here is the one conference that I can help create a presence at since it is in Portland. Plus I will be on vacation and can totally attend. http://techfestnw.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Promo Video Storyboard: Feedback Wanted
Hey I went through your storyboard! Here is my feedback: 1) Why do you have an initial spark that disappears and then reappears? Is that some kind of attention grabber? 2) I'm not sure I understand what frog perspective means? So you have shiny pieces coming from the initial spark and then they fall against the camera? The rest seems okay from my perspective.. but I'm dubious about the intro. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Bastian Hougaard gn...@rvzt.net wrote: Hello! I am working on a promotional video for GNOME and I am looking for some feedback. The goal of the video is to provide information about what GNOME is, why the target group should try GNOME and encourage the target group to try GNOME. Further details can be found here: https://live.gnome.org/BastianIls%C3%B8/PromotionalVideos/NewUsersV2 I have attached a storyboard to this e-mail showing my proposal as to how we can to accomplish the above stated. The link to the source files can be found here: http://rvzt.net/Temp/Animatic.tar.gz Feedback is very welcome! Thank you very much on beforehand, Bastian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: LinuxTag 2013 - Not going to happen
I'm really sorry to hear that. Most unfortunate. :/ sri On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.dewrote: Hey folks, unfortunately, we lack people to run the booth at LinuxTag. I thus cancelled our booth and two presentations we had. Cheers, Tobi -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing meeting on Tuesday?
I've lost track, are we going to do a marketing meeting this Tuesday? I will have issues because I will be in SFO, but I will do my best to attend. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
SIP software
I would be interested to see if https://jitsi.org (jitsi) works with our conference software. Looks quite good if it works. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
REMINDER: Marketing meeting Tuesday May 7th - 20:00 UTC
We have a meeting, agenda I have is: 1) annual report 2) OPW 3) marketing hackfest Please add to the list if you have any thing else? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
reminder: annual report work today
Today we are going to finish off the annual report as we commit to last week. Tentatively, I have it set for 19:00 UTC - 21:00 UTC. But feel free to work on it any time. All the work will be done on IRC. See you there! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Services is now MeetBot capable
This is awesome! Worth having! Sri On Apr 26, 2013 3:01 AM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: Hello guys, from today the Services bot will be able to manage / log meetings by using the MeetBot plugin. The logs will be publicly available at [1]. For more information about the plugin itself and how to run your own meetings, please check [2]. A preview of how things will look like is available at the Fedora Project's meetbot page at [3]. Please don't abuse the new functionality with random tests. Hope you will enjoy this new feature and make good use of it. Have an awesome day! [1] http://meetbot.gnome.org [2] http://meetbot.gnome.org/Manual.html [3] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
some mockups for volunteer capture
So Tiffany has done some work with volunteer capture and has come up with some changes and is looking for your feedback. I have shared the files on owncloud. So please check it out. https://cloud.gnome.org/public.php?service=filest=3e66962411cd3c01445ebf8f61436fc9 https://cloud.gnome.org/public.php?service=filest=028cc10300ae7202649ec31093f4e8b2 I've shared it to the marketing team so if you're not part of that you might not able to see it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Annual report workgroup April 30th - 19:00 UTC (or 20:00 UTC)
Hi folks, we want to finish off the annual report by the first week of May. I would like to get most of this done in teh following week with next Tuesday reserved for finishing it off. Thanks, let's get this out for everyone so they can see what we accomplished last year! sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
So all of July is likely out because I have no one to cover me while I'm gone. Best to have it in June if we can help it. Otherwise, I will deal with it. :-) sri On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for following up, Karen. Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: ... I'd love to get this scheduled! It's looking like scheduling around theJune 24-25 makes sense from looking at people's preferences. Allan do you know if you're unavailable from the 26th? ... My plans for those dates fell through, so I'm free in June. (I've updated the wiki page.) These are the people we identified before as good people to help contribute: * Allan * Andreas * Emmanuele * Karen * Garrett * Jon McCann * Lucas Rocha * Vincent * Stormy * Sri * Jim Nelson (Yorba) * Guy Lunardi (Collabora) * John Sullivan (FSF) * Alex (Skud) Bayley * Nick Richards (formerly Intel) * Karl Fogel * Havoc Pennington If we get the date settled, I can invite them, or we can even set up a call to discuss it, with some people in person. Anyone else to add? I'm fairly certain that we'll never get some of these people to a hackfest. Reaching out to some of them is a great idea though, and we should talk about other people we might want to invite. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: So, since Allan does not have to be back to the UK on the 26th, perhaps June 25-26 would work? That works for me. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: Hmm, my calendar is starting to get complicated again. Would it be a problem if we pushed it back a few days, do you think? (Just figuring out my options.) I'll be with Andreas in Denmark until the 23rd. Best-case scenario, we would make it to New York on the 24th - I would fly Copenhagen / Rio / New York and make it there mid-afternoon on the 24th, and Andreas would fly Copenhagen / New York and make it there late on the 23rd. For me, it would still be better to have the hackfest on the 25th, but I'll fly for 30h if it works better for everyone on the 24th :) You won't be much good to us if you're going to be flying 30 hours. :P Let's keep the goal in mind. :-) We can figure it out I am sure! sri On 04/22/2013 03:56 PM, Allan Day wrote: Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote: So, since Allan does not have to be back to the UK on the 26th, perhaps June 25-26 would work? Hmm, my calendar is starting to get complicated again. Would it be a problem if we pushed it back a few days, do you think? (Just figuring out my options.) Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, April 4, 2013 10:20 am, Allan Day wrote: Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: As per Tobi's email, we should consider again whether to organize a marketing hackfest! Shaun has suggested co-locating with the docs sprint in Cincinatti June 17-19. ... What do people think? Would it be workable this time and if so would having it in June make sense? I'd love to get this scheduled! It's looking like scheduling around theJune 24-25 makes sense from looking at people's preferences. Allan do you know if you're unavailable from the 26th? Sri, could you add your availability? Certainly. June should be okay. But I have a cousin who is threatening to visit but he hasn't told me which dates. (or whether it happens at all) But schedule it and he can work around it I'm sure. July is also fine. I don't think I have anything scheduled at all. As for things that we could work on, there are a number of priority areas for me: * Marketing materials - we could use the opportunity to move our existing content over to OwnCloud and fill in any blanks * Updating the brand guidelines and move them to a restricted location (this would include elaborating them to cover things like visual style, colour schemes, etc) * Writing a GNOME mission statement Alright, sounds good. For some of these items, particularly the last one, we will need more expertise than the marketing team has. If we are going to tackle these tasks - and I think that a hackfest would be a good opportunity to do so - we should think about getting other people to the event, either from the GNOME community and/or specialists who can help us to articulate our message. These are the people we identified before as good people to help contribute: * Allan * Andreas * Emmanuele * Karen * Garrett * Jon McCann * Lucas Rocha * Vincent * Stormy * Sri * Jim Nelson (Yorba) * Guy Lunardi (Collabora) * John Sullivan (FSF) * Alex (Skud) Bayley * Nick Richards (formerly Intel) * Karl Fogel * Havoc Pennington How about some community managers from other groups like say Mozilla or Yocto? Both are full time positions. If we get the date settled, I can invite them, or we can even set up a call to discuss it, with some people in person. Anyone else to add? I don't have anyone that comes to mind at the moment. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Reminder: Marketing meeting Tuesday 23, 2013
Collecting Agenda: Please send me some Current ones: 1) Annual Report Status 2) Marketing Hackfest 3) OPW/GSOC projects - * https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/NewsRedesign (I don't think has been complete) so this is a possible * www.gnome.org reorganization for volunteer capture * live.gnome.org marketing reoganization - not up to date I think 4) Conference planning * Andreas and Fabiana to attent FLISOL (Latin American Free Software Installation Fest) in Rio, on the 27th of April. - what materials to send? * Action: They will need Live CDs and a set of GNOME Cheat Sheets. Previous Action items: -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Introducing myself
Welcome! :) If you can swing by #marketing on irc.gnome.org and introduce yourself! sri On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Likhapha Molisana gracemolisana2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am Likhapha, I'm so excited to be part of marketing mailing list. i'm so passionate about marketing. Humble Regards Likhapha Molisana Phone: (+266)58679068 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Presentation
Welcome, Stafania - will you be doing design for Allan then or is it marketing? sri On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Stefania Guglielmi gullin...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello everyone! Just a quick message to present myself...My name is Stef and from today on I will collaborate with you and in the meantime I'm applying for the OPW. I talked to Allan and just wrote my first article for the newsfeed. How do I get it posted? Anything I can do to help, let me know! Really eager to start working! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
I have an idea that I think would be great for Cinnarch. I think having a distro involved in gnome initial setup other than Fedora would be excellent. They can provide alternative approaches or help implement the design in Cinnarch. Basically go all in as a complete GNOME distro. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/InitialSetup For more details. I would like to see them get involved. Perhaps that is something to focus on? sri On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: Hashem, I spoke directly with Alexandre (the Cinnarch project lead) after reading a post in the news section of the project web page - they've already made GNOME the default. Of course, nothing stops one from installing something else, it is still Arch underneath. Brett On Apr 12, 2013 11:58 PM, Hashem Nasarat hnasa...@gmail.com wrote: This site admin on their forum seemed against association with a particular desktop environment. Has anyone actually reached out to contact those involved? http://forum.cinnarch.com/viewtopic.php?f=13t=905#p2581 On 04/12/2013 07:32 AM, Brett Legree wrote: Good point Juanjo - we don't want to confuse people like that, and as Olav pointed out GNOME OS has other goals. I'll communicate with Alexandre and let him know; I am sure they'll come up with a new and unique name! Thanks for the feedback - Brett On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Juanjo Marin juanj.ma...@juntadeandalucia.es wrote: Hi ! I think GNOME Arch (Linux) can be more appropiated, because it explain quite well what it delivers :-) GNOME OS will be more confusing from my point of view, because people can think this particular distro is under the control of the GNOME project or something like, without mentioning that GNOME OS is the codename of the GNOME initiative to improve GNOME in serveral areas (developers, testing, etc). My two cents, -- Juanjo Marin PS: And GNOME Arch OS is also confusing because people can think that is a distro for archos.com devices :-) On 12/04/13 13:07, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, I had a brief exchange with Alexandre of Cinnarch today - if you did not see my little note on IRC, they are moving to GNOME http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ and seeking a new name. I thought since a few GNOME users are using Arch that it might be interesting if this became GNOME OS. Obviously I do not speak for GNOME (as I said in my email to Alexandre) but I thought I would throw the idea out there and see what people think. So, any thoughts? Yes, no, crazy... -Brett -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexandre Filgueira alexfilgue...@cinnarch.com Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:35 AM Subject: Re: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch To: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hi Brett Well, becoming the GNOME OS would be fun, and I think, like you said, that using Arch as basis, it's the best option to GNOME to show the vanilla packages and the most up to date software. I'm ok with discussing this with gnome, if the answer is no we can always keep our usual work. I didn't contact the project and I don't know who to talk, so if you could help me present the idea would be great. Thanks for contacting me Cheers 2013/4/12 Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hello, I am contacting you regarding the post on your new direction http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ I am part of the GNOME Marketing Team, and thought I would put in my own thoughts. Quite a few GNOME users I know are using Arch due to the nature of the distro (rolling release, speed, pure packages, rapid updates to new software versions) and we talk from time to time about the concept of GNOME OS. Perhaps Cinnarch could become the GNOME OS. Now, I don't speak for GNOME, but I wonder if you contacted the project formally (I could find out who to ask) and made the suggestion whether it would be considered. Perhaps this would give you massive support and publicity if it came to pass. Thanks, let me know what you think, and if you need a hand I am willing to help. Brett Legree -- Juan José Marín Martínez Tlf: 956009437 (Corp. 409437) Móvil: 671596200 (Corp. 696200) Fax: 956009445 (Corp. 409445) Centro de Proceso de Datos. Delegación Territorial de Educación, Cultura y Deporte en Cádiz Consejería de Cultura y Deporte. Junta de Andalucía Antes de imprimir este correo electrónico piense bien si es necesario hacerlo: El medioambiente es cosa de todos. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing hackfest planning page
Fabiana has created a planning page for the hackfest. Please read through it and add whatever you think we should discuss. What I think we shoudld do is get the bucket list and then start figuring out what the theme of the hackfest should be e.g. strategic vs tactical and then we can decide what goes in and what gets put off for a future date. Here is the link: https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing2013 sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing meeting minutes
Here are the minutes for today's marketing meeting. Thanks to Fabiana for doing the minutes! https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing2013 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting minutes
yep I sent a correction mail. Sorry about that. sri On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Sri, Thanks for sending those out. The actual URL, though, is this one: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/09APR2013 Fabiana On 04/09/2013 06:36 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Here are the minutes for today's marketing meeting. Thanks to Fabiana for doing the minutes! https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing2013 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Meeting Tuesday 20:00 UTC
Agenda: * Annual Report * Marketing Hackfest * User Interviews * Conference coordination * Materials? template? * Old action items -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OPW ideas?
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: I think it would be great if someone took on Flavia's work on outreach. She gathered great information on newcomers characteristics and I think we should definitely use this knowledge :) From Flavia's last report, an intern could evaluate and (re)design our ways to reach each of the newcomer types mentioned. This would include, I guess: * restructuring the Get Involved session on the website * creating/improving promotion material for events, * a health check on the wiki pages for each team (checking for clear directions for where to start, outdated material), * promotion, in general (reaching social media, IRC meeting on #gnome-love perhaps...) * improving/promoting /GnomeIrcChannels with operational and etiquette tips - some newcomers still get really confused with IRC, it seems, * etc, there's plenty of room of getting creativity in action here. Also, regardless of what the intern would work on, I'd be happy to help an intern with anything related to the website. HI Fabiana, great minds think alike. :-) This is exactly what I told the one prospect that Allan sent over to me. Basically, I wanted to audit the web pages for volunteer capture. There was some other stuff as well that I need to go back and check. I want to make sure that our web pages are properly sending volunteers to the right place. sri Fabiana On 04/06/2013 01:19 AM, Karen Sandler wrote: All of this discussion about what we could work on during a hackfest reminds me that we should get an idea or two up on the OPW page if we want to encourage applicants. Reorganizing our website content and identifying things that we need (and starting to create those items with others), identifying things that are old and determining what might be good to reuse from them, etc, could be a good one. Flavia, what do you think? :D Does anyone want to be a mentor (or co-mentor)? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: INQUIRY
I was going through the wiki pages for our project and I found it a lot of work to decipher what projects to go for and what not. Also some things needs to be updated. We probably need to fix the landing wiki page. Secondly, web development is currently Christy Eller and Elena Petrevska, while Christy can be called upon when needed she is not involved on a day to day basis and Elena has no presence since her internship at all. Who can take over mentorship for web development? See here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove/Mentors BTW KDE's page is quite good: https://community.kde.org/OutreachProgramForWomen sri -- Forwarded message -- From: Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com Date: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM Subject: Re: INQUIRY To: Likhapha Molisana gracemolisana2...@gmail.com Cc: opw-l...@gnome.org Hi Likhapha, Thank you for your interest in the program! Please review projects in different organizations linked to from https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen/2013/JuneSeptember/#Participating_Organizations A couple of them will have marketing projects. You can learn more about these organizations and projects, decide which one interests you the most, and contact the mentor for it directly. Thanks, Marina - Original Message - From: Likhapha Molisana gracemolisana2...@gmail.com To: opw-l...@gnome.org Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:15:30 AM Subject: INQUIRY I am LIkhapha Molisana from Lesotho, Southern Africa. I am very interested in Outreach Program for Women internship. I would like to apply for Marketing internship. So i would like to get a mentor who will help me so that i can start the process of applying. Humble Regards Likhapha Molisana Phone: (+266)58679068 ___ opw-list mailing list opw-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/opw-list ___ opw-list mailing list opw-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/opw-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
Let me see off the top of my head: * updated marketing materials for conferences - * talking points when discussing GNOME with others, formulating a FAQ * outreach discussion - we do this, but we need to really need to come up with an action plan * re-do the marketing wiki page * conference bling - what new stuff can we give out at conference * New T-shirt design? * implement GSOC volunteer capture on the website * pursue new ideas through brainstorming and interaction * press kit improvements * conference kit improvements * lingering action items that need to be completed. * reaching out to non-tech sectors * reaching out to kids * reaching out to parents * reaching out to LGBT * selling our javascript platform to web folks I'm really serious about getting images out, it's an important factor in getting volunteers.. we should probably discuss what other infrastructure improvements we could make. * beer / team building That should be about two days worth of stuff right there. I know that we have the capacity of to use an entire hour or more in our marketing meeting. Anything else, we can talk about? sri On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, April 3, 2013 8:13 pm, Allan Day wrote: Hi Karen, Karen Sandler wrote: As per Tobi's email, we should consider again whether to organize a marketing hackfest! Shaun has suggested co-locating with the docs sprint in Cincinatti June 17-19. ... What do people think? Would it be workable this time and if so would having it in June make sense? I'm definitely interested in attending a marketing hackfest. That said, I am busy and my primary responsibility is design, so I'd want to be confident that the event would be an effective use of time. Do you (or anybody else) have any ideas for what we would work on? I think there are a lot of things we could work on, but one big thing we want to do is to better articulate why GNOME and free software generally is so important. Also, our marketing materials site is old and seriously out of date so on the more mundane side, combing through those materials, reorganizing them and figuring out if there's anything new that we need would probably be very useful. I'm sure others have ideas too. karen Best, Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
collab time - 20:00 UTC Tuesday April 2nd
Reminder that we are working on Annual report and getting it in shape. So freel free to block an hour tomorrow and help work on it. Thanks! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
press release
We have updated the press release today. I think it is in it's final form. Thanks to Brett and Emily for doing further edits and making it read so good! http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing meeting Tuesday 20:00 UTC
Sorry, this is really last minute. I completely forgot to send out a reminder. This is our last marketing meeting before the release. So I think we should try to meet. If we can't meet by phone then let's at least do one over IRC. Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting Tuesday 20:00 UTC
That's great, it would be great to see you there! sri On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: I may be available via IRC, I'll do my best to join in - Brett On Mar 26, 2013 2:22 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Sorry, this is really last minute. I completely forgot to send out a reminder. This is our last marketing meeting before the release. So I think we should try to meet. If we can't meet by phone then let's at least do one over IRC. Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
today's marketing meeting
hey folks, we are doing it by phone call, so here is hte contact details: 12:54 karenesq PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 12:54 karenesq SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com 12:54 karenesq PIN: 9090 sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
OK, I will work on getting a booth working for GNOME. I think we have a reason to be there if we want to get more javascript folks. However, we are going to need to get all the materials that fledgling javascript writers would want to know to write for our platform. sri On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: It's good to spend a little time in the booth, and there is some networking to be done from there :) Perhaps we should email the foundations list when it gets a little closer and see if there are others attending who may not be on the marketing list? It's still pretty early for people to know if they're going. karen On Fri, March 22, 2013 11:52 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Actually, I don't expect you to be at the booth much at all I mostly thinking you would be out there networking. Much more important role. On Mar 21, 2013 11:40 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: revised the press release
Thanks everyone for taking the time and interest in commenting! Very much appreciate the feedback. I will take a look at the first paragraph and see if we can add more detail on GNOME. Sri On Mar 22, 2013 2:24 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: I had a brief look just now, and so far it looks great - I'll sit down with a cup of coffee at my morning break and put on my nuclear inspector hat to see how it would look if I were rolling it out to a team of government workers. (Personal bias here - I think everyone where I work would LOVE it, since we've been using bone stock Windows XP since the dawn of time it seems - a bit 'stale' these days.) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 1:40 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Here is the revised press release. I'd like more eyeballs on it if possible. Karen and I spent a little time on it tonight as we said we would. http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
Actually, I don't expect you to be at the booth much at all I mostly thinking you would be out there networking. Much more important role. On Mar 21, 2013 11:40 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Mar 22, 2013 5:57 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Oh c'mon Sri, I did a booth all by my lonesome at Ohio Linux Fest :p In all seriousness, I'd love to help but, as with Brett you're on the other side of the continent, which makes it a bit hard. Though, IMHO we ought to have a GNOME booth at all the major conferences, though I'm probably dreaming. I have as well. Although, I did manage to get volunteers. The problem is more related to work. I'm more busy now than when I was an engineer in IT. So I have to spend some time during the day working. Sri Emily On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Ack! These things are always on the other side of the continent from me... though I'd love to do a road trip out that way. BSDCan is in my neck of the woods (in Ottawa) though I do not think we're in good shape yet in that camp, at least in FreeBSD which is my primary BSD area of interest (correct me if I'm wrong, someone!) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 2:40 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
revised the press release
Here is the revised press release. I'd like more eyeballs on it if possible. Karen and I spent a little time on it tonight as we said we would. http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
OSCON
I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing meeting reminder 20:00 UTC Tuesday March 12, 2013
Greeting folks, Want to remind people that we have a marketing meeting tomorrow. I might not be able to make it as I have a meeting at that time. Agenda items: * Release notes * Annual report There are probably others, and some stuff from previous meetings. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
Looks like they are plenty of people to review this. :) I'll review if there are copies left. Otherwise, I'll happily let others do it. sri On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Sindhu S sind...@live.in wrote: Hi all! Am I too late? I'd love to read the book and review it :) I have no coding experience but my current internship has given me the confidence to contribute to GNOME even more :) This book should be a good head start at things! Thank you. On Wed, March 6, 2013 2:47 pm, tong hui wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Mohammad Anwari I searched his name, so here is the book URL http://www.packtpub.com/gnome-3-application-development-beginners-guide/book Through the brief instruction of the book, and some item I am very interesting for reading the book and writing some reviews. may I ask a more cheaper ebook editon? Thanks! I've already gotten a few responses about this, so I'll ask about e-book copies, but I think we're probably set on reviewers now! karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Reminder: Marketing collab meeting tomorrow on IRC at 20:00 UTC
Hello folks! Just want to remind everyone that tomorrow is the collab meeting on IRC at 20:00 UTC. This will be a working meeting working on the release notes and annual report. Tomorrow is the deadline for the annual report, so if you're still working on it we need to start finishing up and get this done so we can concentrate on the release notes. Tomorrow is help Allan Day! (see what I did there? I'm s witty!) :-) sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
Yep! We'll do it by IRC and hackerpad. The release notes are being done in git, but we could take a git version onto hackerpad and then do wahtever edits required and then push it to git afterwards. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, February 28, 2013 10:29 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: So tuesday is our work session day, still interested in doing an hour of marketing work at the same time? Karen and I could work on the press release and others could get together and work on the other release notes? What do people think of that? Great idea! By IRC again? karen sri On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: I'm very happy to help to. Please, let me know if there's anything I can do :) ~Fabiana On 02/28/2013 04:52 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Working away here at the responses to the interview questions (Hi Flavia! Expect my reply by tomorrow morning at the very latest) as well as my section for the Annual, should have that tightened up by the weekend. -Brett On Feb 28, 2013 1:30 PM, Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Please keep me in consideration, if I may help in some way I'll be very happy to offer my experience as journalist :) Flavia Il 28/02/2013 19:23, Karen Sandler ha scritto: On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I can do the press release, I did part of it last time. I'll figure out how to get the quotations. That would be great, Sri! First thing to do is to figure out who we want to approach. I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would be great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we ask? May I help in some way? What kind of blogposts should we have? We're lining up interviews with GNOME users, and we have 2 in the works now. Would that be the kind of content you mean? karen We have the interview to Greg completed, I'm waiting for Brett answers, than next week I'll write the interview to Mccann too. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
I can do the press release, I did part of it last time. I'll figure out how to get the quotations. We need some press contacts. I know that Vincent has volunteered to be our media guy. Vincent, can you handle media questions? We have one volunteer for videos by the way, just need to get a reasonable build for him to try. We had discussed this earlier . It is a nice extra I think. Possibly, Bastian can do some screenshots as well. I can help out some with the release notes as well and social media. I will ask for more volunteers on the social networking sites becuase we still have pending stuff to do on the annual report. :/ sri On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:20 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As I recently noted in my email about release notes, GNOME 3.8 is due for release on March 27. That gives us about a month to get ready on the marketing side. This includes: * Release notes * Press release * Update gnome.org (change the banner on the homepage, update the screenshots on http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/) * Reach out to the press in advance to let them know that the release is coming * Generate buzz any way we can (blog posts, social media, etc) I'm working on the release notes and would appreciate any help I can get. We also need people to take care of the press release (this has a long lead time, since we have to approach people for quotations) and reaching out to the press. Volunteers are badly needed here. Let me know if you can take responsibility for any of these items. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le jeudi 28 février 2013, à 13:23 -0500, Karen Sandler a écrit : On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: We need some press contacts. I know that Vincent has volunteered to be our media guy. Vincent, can you handle media questions? We have a list of contacts already. We just needs someone send out emails and field questions. I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would be great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we ask? I can certainly help and dedicate some time to this, but I think we need more people: I might not have the bandwidth to handle everything, and I feel it's better for the project to have more than one visible face for media stuff. Hi Vincent, I'm sure that we can have Karen, yourself, Allan and maybe recruit one other. I can possibly do this as well if you like. sri Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
Sure, Alex that would be great. You actually have a pretty good grasp of what's going on as well. I'm somewhat amazed at how well you monitor all the bits. Perhaps we could do some interviews or something at your site? You're doing a good job focusing on some of release aspects too. sri On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, If there is something specific I can help with, please let me know! - alex On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le jeudi 28 février 2013, à 13:23 -0500, Karen Sandler a écrit : On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: We need some press contacts. I know that Vincent has volunteered to be our media guy. Vincent, can you handle media questions? We have a list of contacts already. We just needs someone send out emails and field questions. I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would be great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we ask? I can certainly help and dedicate some time to this, but I think we need more people: I might not have the bandwidth to handle everything, and I feel it's better for the project to have more than one visible face for media stuff. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
Andreas it is! I'm have never talked with the press. I should probably like take a course or something. They have that at work. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 02/28/2013 09:03 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: I can certainly help and dedicate some time to this, but I think we need more people: I might not have the bandwidth to handle everything, and I feel it's better for the project to have more than one visible face for media stuff. Hi Vincent, I'm sure that we can have Karen, yourself, Allan and maybe recruit one other. I can possibly do this as well if you like. I'm happy to help as well. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
So tuesday is our work session day, still interested in doing an hour of marketing work at the same time? Karen and I could work on the press release and others could get together and work on the other release notes? What do people think of that? sri On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: I'm very happy to help to. Please, let me know if there's anything I can do :) ~Fabiana On 02/28/2013 04:52 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Working away here at the responses to the interview questions (Hi Flavia! Expect my reply by tomorrow morning at the very latest) as well as my section for the Annual, should have that tightened up by the weekend. -Brett On Feb 28, 2013 1:30 PM, Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Please keep me in consideration, if I may help in some way I'll be very happy to offer my experience as journalist :) Flavia Il 28/02/2013 19:23, Karen Sandler ha scritto: On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I can do the press release, I did part of it last time. I'll figure out how to get the quotations. That would be great, Sri! First thing to do is to figure out who we want to approach. I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would be great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we ask? May I help in some way? What kind of blogposts should we have? We're lining up interviews with GNOME users, and we have 2 in the works now. Would that be the kind of content you mean? karen We have the interview to Greg completed, I'm waiting for Brett answers, than next week I'll write the interview to Mccann too. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: Marketing Meeting Reminder next week Tuesday 20:00 UTC Feb 26, 2013
Here is the agenda! sri -- Forwarded message -- From: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me Date: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM Subject: Marketing Meeting Reminder next week Tuesday 20:00 UTC Feb 26, 2013 To: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Greetings folks, It's time for another marketing meeting scheduled for Tuesday. Can someone provide some agenda items? Some off hand.. * GNOME 3.8 release preparation * making ourselves open to the media (interviews, blogposts, etc) * images prior to freeze for community feedback * Friends of GNOME update * GNOME in the media * Going over the results of Flavia's work * Conference participation updates Current action items: - Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME - Allan will work on feature list for 3.8 release. - Karen will email release team about having a meeting to talk about 3.8 release - Sri to schedule time for working on the Annual Report content together - [All] Look at the FoG mockups and provide some feedback - https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2013-February/msg00017.htmland https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2013-February/msg00022.html - Karen could ask for hardware donations for future conferences - Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doing their theme - waiting on a proposal so that they have something to switch. - Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. *IN PROGRESS* - meet specifically for 3.8, mail was sent. We should start talking about release planning. Karen will follow up. Anything else? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
Eww.. let's not call it Lite anything because it sounds like it is inferior to GNOME 3 and I don't want to give that impression. GNOME Classic experience session is a good enough I think. Hell it worked for Cocoa Cola, right? :-) sri On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.comwrote: On 15 Feb 2013, at 10:52, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Names have been thought of: - Traditional - Classic GNOME Lite? :) -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
I think it's mostly so that those who liked the classic style have the option so they can eventually bridge the gap and move to GNOME 3. We've lost some people to Mate and Cinnamon precisely because some people really are comfortable with the old gui. But eventually, as hardware changes they'll have to eventually give it up and move to something that supports the new hardware. (eg laptops with touch screens for instance) But for now, they can still use the old method which a lot of people really did like. Now if we could get someone to write wobbly windows effect (which a lot of people liked) Funny, wobbly windows started at GNOME as a demonstration of the new X capabilities. :-) sri sri On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.comwrote: On 25 Feb 2013, at 17:40, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Eww.. let's not call it Lite anything because it sounds like it is inferior to GNOME 3 and I don't want to give that impression. Don't worry, I hate the term myself so I was mostly joking :) (But on the other hand, if we didn't believe GNOME 3 was a superior experience, there would be no reason to have stopped working on GNOME 2… and 'Lite' does perhaps actually convey a suitability for less capable hardware, which is less obvious with 'Classic'.) --Calum. -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
GNOME: Electric bugalaloo or let's go with even something more preposterous GNOME vindaloo - spicy version On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: GNOME Redux :) On Feb 25, 2013 12:49 PM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: On 25 Feb 2013, at 17:40, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Eww.. let's not call it Lite anything because it sounds like it is inferior to GNOME 3 and I don't want to give that impression. Don't worry, I hate the term myself so I was mostly joking :) (But on the other hand, if we didn't believe GNOME 3 was a superior experience, there would be no reason to have stopped working on GNOME 2… and 'Lite' does perhaps actually convey a suitability for less capable hardware, which is less obvious with 'Classic'.) --Calum. -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Meeting Reminder next week Tuesday 20:00 UTC Feb 26, 2013
Greetings folks, It's time for another marketing meeting scheduled for Tuesday. Can someone provide some agenda items? Some off hand.. * GNOME 3.8 release preparation * making ourselves open to the media (interviews, blogposts, etc) * images prior to freeze for community feedback * Friends of GNOME update * GNOME in the media * Going over the results of Flavia's work * Conference participation updates Current action items: - Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME - Allan will work on feature list for 3.8 release. - Karen will email release team about having a meeting to talk about 3.8 release - Sri to schedule time for working on the Annual Report content together - [All] Look at the FoG mockups and provide some feedback - https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2013-February/msg00017.htmland https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2013-February/msg00022.html - Karen could ask for hardware donations for future conferences - Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doing their theme - waiting on a proposal so that they have something to switch. - Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. *IN PROGRESS* - meet specifically for 3.8, mail was sent. We should start talking about release planning. Karen will follow up. Anything else? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
2012 report working session 20:00 UTC Today?
Hey folks, We had talked about having a working session on alternate works on the tasks we have. It's sort of last minute, but are people interested in doing this? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2012 Annual Report
Excellent, Bastian! I have also started on mine, and here is the link to the google documents. I would like a little help in editing and maybe figuring out on how to talk about the last 5 years of GNOME which of course is recent history. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1guDTyi-vsrGCOnikCRnJg5t-hV05BJWVn9ZGVRS1_ZE/edit?usp=sharing sri On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bastian Hougaard gn...@rvzt.net wrote: ** I have updated AnnualReport2012/Hackfests with a write-up on the GNOME.Asia Summit 2012 hackfest. Feedback is welcome! -Bastian On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:31 -0300, Fabiana Simões wrote: Thanks for the feedback, Sri! I'll try to review the articles and put some wow on them ASAP :) ~Fabiana On 02/16/2013 11:28 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Seems good. I would probably have re-written it to have a little oomph to it. We're trying to present an interesting picture of each hackfest. Think the language used in those gourmet magazines where they start with It was a cold day in December, in contrast to the warm bubble enthusiasm at the UX hackfest.. etc etc. That said, I think that's really the kind of job of an editor, write the piece and then we'll start making it look pretty. You're going in the right direction however, because it is a good basis for that kind of writing because you need to get the facts and what happened. sri On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I wrote two articles for the Annual Report, one about the User Observation Hackfest and another about the A Coruña UX Hackfest. I tried to keep them short, since we have a lot of Hackfests to write about. Both pieces are here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2012/Hackfests . Could anyone take a look at them, please? Just wanted to make sure I'm at the right direction here, before I go ahead and write some more :) ~Fabiana On 02/14/2013 05:53 PM, Daniel Galleguillos C. wrote: Hi karen. 2013/2/14 Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org On Wed, February 13, 2013 10:50 pm, Daniel Galleguillos C. wrote: Hi all folks. I've have been working in a update for the Annual report and here's the PDF Sketch, the update are in Scribus so we are ready to add text and Pictures. https://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Mockups There is some place were I can get some pictures? a Flickr with CC License would be good. I'm worry because we need to add text and pictures and we are almost in the deadline. Feb 1st - Feb 15th - Design begins, writing finalized. Hey Daniel! Actually, we pushed the deadline a little later, so that one is March 5: I'll start to work with this info. :) https://live.gnome.org/action/edit/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2012 That said, no time like the present to get moving on this stuff! Maybe everyone could add links to content on that wiki page? It's a really easy way to contribute in a small way. I went ahead and linked some easy ones, like the GUADEC photo pool. But there's a lot of great stuff there. Whoever takes on the article will appreciate having the links already there... Thanks, and the idea is show the advance every week. karen Cheers!! 2012/12/4 Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org On Sat, December 1, 2012 9:45 am, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 11/05/2012 02:59 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: We're coming up on the end of 2012 which means we need to start thinking about the 2012 Annual Report. We also need a deadline, and such a deadline everyone need to be committed to. I've asked Karen to lead the coordination in order to avoid the trainwreck we had for 2010-2011 (and them becoming a bi-annual report instead of a annual report) I propose March 3rd of 2013 as when we need to be done. I would propose March 22, as that's one week after our report needs to be filed with the IRS, and that way we can incorporate any of the changes that our accountants make (no matter how early you try to get them to work on this, they never seem to finish until the deadline). Today - Holidays - we need to get the Fog campaign out. So any work during this period is out of the question. Jan 5th - Feb 1st - Content needs to be set in stone, collecting donor data and financial numbers, initial writing happens. Length of articles We've already collected the donor data! :) decided. Feb 1st - Feb 15th - Design begins, writing finalized Feb 16th - Feb 26 - Writing proof reading and fixing, design finalized. Feb 26th - Mar 3rd - Proof reading of finished design pdf. Fixing. Publishing. (Note that February only have 28 days!) These deadlines sound great, though! We can take the extra time to pad the proof reading and fixing. Thanks for setting this out, Andreas. karen If anyone thinks that is impossible, speak up now. - Andreas
Re: 2012 Annual Report
Seems good. I would probably have re-written it to have a little oomph to it. We're trying to present an interesting picture of each hackfest. Think the language used in those gourmet magazines where they start with It was a cold day in December, in contrast to the warm bubble enthusiasm at the UX hackfest.. etc etc. That said, I think that's really the kind of job of an editor, write the piece and then we'll start making it look pretty. You're going in the right direction however, because it is a good basis for that kind of writing because you need to get the facts and what happened. sri On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, I wrote two articles for the Annual Report, one about the User Observation Hackfest and another about the A Coruña UX Hackfest. I tried to keep them short, since we have a lot of Hackfests to write about. Both pieces are here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2012/Hackfests . Could anyone take a look at them, please? Just wanted to make sure I'm at the right direction here, before I go ahead and write some more :) ~Fabiana On 02/14/2013 05:53 PM, Daniel Galleguillos C. wrote: Hi karen. 2013/2/14 Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org On Wed, February 13, 2013 10:50 pm, Daniel Galleguillos C. wrote: Hi all folks. I've have been working in a update for the Annual report and here's the PDF Sketch, the update are in Scribus so we are ready to add text and Pictures. https://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Mockups There is some place were I can get some pictures? a Flickr with CC License would be good. I'm worry because we need to add text and pictures and we are almost in the deadline. Feb 1st - Feb 15th - Design begins, writing finalized. Hey Daniel! Actually, we pushed the deadline a little later, so that one is March 5: I'll start to work with this info. :) https://live.gnome.org/action/edit/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2012 That said, no time like the present to get moving on this stuff! Maybe everyone could add links to content on that wiki page? It's a really easy way to contribute in a small way. I went ahead and linked some easy ones, like the GUADEC photo pool. But there's a lot of great stuff there. Whoever takes on the article will appreciate having the links already there... Thanks, and the idea is show the advance every week. karen Cheers!! 2012/12/4 Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org On Sat, December 1, 2012 9:45 am, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 11/05/2012 02:59 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: We're coming up on the end of 2012 which means we need to start thinking about the 2012 Annual Report. We also need a deadline, and such a deadline everyone need to be committed to. I've asked Karen to lead the coordination in order to avoid the trainwreck we had for 2010-2011 (and them becoming a bi-annual report instead of a annual report) I propose March 3rd of 2013 as when we need to be done. I would propose March 22, as that's one week after our report needs to be filed with the IRS, and that way we can incorporate any of the changes that our accountants make (no matter how early you try to get them to work on this, they never seem to finish until the deadline). Today - Holidays - we need to get the Fog campaign out. So any work during this period is out of the question. Jan 5th - Feb 1st - Content needs to be set in stone, collecting donor data and financial numbers, initial writing happens. Length of articles We've already collected the donor data! :) decided. Feb 1st - Feb 15th - Design begins, writing finalized Feb 16th - Feb 26 - Writing proof reading and fixing, design finalized. Feb 26th - Mar 3rd - Proof reading of finished design pdf. Fixing. Publishing. (Note that February only have 28 days!) These deadlines sound great, though! We can take the extra time to pad the proof reading and fixing. Thanks for setting this out, Andreas. karen If anyone thinks that is impossible, speak up now. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Daniel -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2012 Annual Report
I think in the meeting we were talking about doing a report after a conference. In general, we should roll all this into a quarterly report, and then the annual report would be a summary of the quarterly ones, no? sri On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, February 14, 2013 8:37 am, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, I think the annual report should be as timely as possible - so covering FOSDEM 2013 is great! My mistake - I guess it was pretty late when I did that :) I'd love to collect the content now for next year though and find a way to also publish that separately so we've got current stuff coming out too... karen Cheers, Dave. On 02/14/2013 02:25 PM, Juanjo Marin wrote: On 14/02/13 13:01, Fabiana Simões wrote: Hi everyone, On 14 February 2013 02:51, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Maybe everyone could add links to content on that wiki page? It's a really easy way to contribute in a small way. I went ahead and linked some easy ones, like the GUADEC photo pool. But there's a lot of great stuff there. Whoever takes on the article will appreciate having the links already there... Added links there to as much content as I could find. One question: The FOSDEM links there are for the 2013 event instead of the 2012 one. Is that correct? I think is just a mistake. We should cover FOSDEM 2012 for this issue of the annual report. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing meeting Tuesday Feb 12th 20:00 UTC
Let's add Flavia's post as another agenda item. sri On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: And here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 9090 On Thu, February 7, 2013 7:57 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Agenda: * FOSDEM report * Friends of GNOME * Annual Report Standard agenda items: (we don't have to cover, just need to keep it in mind) * Check up on FoG contributions and status - contractors doing a good job of alleviating issues in regards to handling donations. * Community outreach - (news articles - positive/negative, outreach ideas, concerns etc) * Opens Actions: * Karen and Emily working on a wiki page to plan writing content. Andreas is happy to contribute articles. Having more people contribute the easier this task will be to complete. * Allan and Karen will talk with Bastian and Matthias to see where we are with the privacy controls. Things like privacy mode in Web would be great. * Sri will try to find other people to help volunteer for annual report * Andreas to check with Alberto if Healtcheck can be done for all modules. * Emily to post on the Forums (on going) * Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME (on going) * Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doign their theme * Allan to have release team participating in call * Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Meeting Minutes - Feb 12, 2013
This is the link to the meeting minutes. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/12FEV2013 In the interest of better communications, I am CC'ing the foundation-list. Foundation-list: Marketing team have a bi-weekly phone call to discuss community outreach, quarterly reports and other non-coding items. Just to keep foundation members abreast of what we are doing and our progress, I'm giving a link to our minutes for your perusal. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing meeting Tuesday Feb 12th 20:00 UTC
Agenda: * FOSDEM report * Friends of GNOME * Annual Report Standard agenda items: (we don't have to cover, just need to keep it in mind) * Check up on FoG contributions and status - contractors doing a good job of alleviating issues in regards to handling donations. * Community outreach - (news articles - positive/negative, outreach ideas, concerns etc) * Opens Actions: * Karen and Emily working on a wiki page to plan writing content. Andreas is happy to contribute articles. Having more people contribute the easier this task will be to complete. * Allan and Karen will talk with Bastian and Matthias to see where we are with the privacy controls. Things like privacy mode in Web would be great. * Sri will try to find other people to help volunteer for annual report * Andreas to check with Alberto if Healtcheck can be done for all modules. * Emily to post on the Forums (on going) * Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME (on going) * Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doign their theme * Allan to have release team participating in call * Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: distro that is focused on accessibilty
My point here is that if there is some mutual beneficial way to work with say this distro who is looking to improve a11y, what I see is more people interested in solving the problem. That mean we can do some joint venture that will help a11y and improve the stack. Whether that means money through mutual fundraising for getting volunteers, both would be good for us. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: De: Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.it Para: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Domingo 3 de febrero de 2013 11:12 Asunto: Re: distro that is focused on accessibilty Il 02/02/2013 07:13, Sriram Ramkrishna ha scritto: Hi All, I was reading on /r/Linux on reddit about a distro that is looking for donations to work on a completely accessible operating system. I posted a note talking about our own efforts at accessibility. More importantly, we are doing our own fund drive and perhaps it might be worth doing something jointly. I have asked them to contact me. I'm hoping that this might be a good partnership. sri Hi Sri, I think this is a great idea! I've managed the a11y question in GNOME 2 and the support was very good, not so good in GNOME 3, but I was talking just a couple of days ago with Juanjo Marin and he confirmed me that a11y team for 3.8 is reaching some interesting goals. :) Cheers, Hi ! The transition to GNOME 3.0 was a regression because we weren't able to deliver an accessible desktop in time. The main reason was that Bonobo was dropped and we have to migrate all our accessibility stack to D-Bus and we didn't have the time to make gnome shell accessible. The design of gnome shell included an accessibility icon, so at least it was clear our intentions, though unfortunately the result in 3.0 were very poor. In the transition to 3.0 to 3.4 a lot of work was done in the accessibility technology stack. We think that we've got the same level of accessibility in GNOME 3.4 that GNOME 2 in general terms, Orca performs better than in the gnome 2 but we have some small details like sticky keys indicator that still are not present in GNOME 3 (#647711, still not resolved). Starting with GNOME 3.6, the accessibility stack has been highly integrated into the core, so users that need any assistive technology can use GNOME right from the start. So far, users that needed any assistive technology had to activate accessibility support. This was cumbersome, because they had to figure out how to do that without the help of any assistive technology that they may need. This feature is an important milestone in GNOME's accessibilty. I think is important to note that GNOME accessibility technologies is the facto cross desktop standard for accessibility. The accessibilty team help Qt and KDE developers to improve their accessibility support. Thanks to this collaboration, Orca users will be able to access not only GNOME/GTK+ applications, but also KDE/Qt applications. IMHO, distros oriented to accessibility still has sense, but I think/hope we are getting close to make this something in the past. At this moment, the big gap to fill for making an major distro accessible is making their installer accessible. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
distro that is focused on accessibilty
Hi All, I was reading on /r/Linux on reddit about a distro that is looking for donations to work on a completely accessible operating system. I posted a note talking about our own efforts at accessibility. More importantly, we are doing our own fund drive and perhaps it might be worth doing something jointly. I have asked them to contact me. I'm hoping that this might be a good partnership. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing meeting next week
So we have a marketing meeting call next week. But a lot of you will be in FOSDEM. I know we decided we would still have it, so how do you want to proceed? Can you setup a conference room? What would be the timing? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Annual report
I have a number of volunteers now who have volunteered to help out. A total of 3 new people. We should probably start talking about how we want to do this. How do you people want to proceed? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual report
So we have had a thread on this back in November. Please read through the thread and then put forth any ideas from that thread since it seems to have progressed quite a bit. That way we can leverage the previous conversation instead of starting completely over: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-November/msg1.html sri On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: It could be good to start drafting an outline of the report, like a summary or something. As a volunteer, I, for one, would find easier to take a topic out of this outline to write about, than to propose a topic out of the blue. Perhaps people who have worked on previous reports could kick off this? Best, Fabiana On 01/24/2013 08:14 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have a number of volunteers now who have volunteered to help out. A total of 3 new people. We should probably start talking about how we want to do this. How do you people want to proceed? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Let's write the 2012 Annual report!
OK, thanks. I'll look them up! sri On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Awesome, Sri, thanks! jrb, federico and Dave Mason put together a lot of stuff for their GUADEC keynote which could be helpful. Diego, Daniel and Marina had the OPW and GSoC participants at GUADEC interview GNOME old timers too, which could have some good stuff as well for this. karen On Thu, January 24, 2013 11:58 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Awesome, thanks Karen! I have signed up for GNOME 15 year birthday. 15 years already? Good grief, it just seems like ysterday we were celebrating 10 years! I will celebrate 14 something years in GNOME this year. :-) sri On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, January 24, 2013 8:31 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: So we have had a thread on this back in November. Please read through the thread and then put forth any ideas from that thread since it seems to have progressed quite a bit. That way we can leverage the previous conversation instead of starting completely over: OK, I went back and took all of the discussion we had then and included it in a new wiki page: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2012 I put the list of article ideas up there, and if you volunteered already to write something I put your name in parenthesis next to it! I'm so excited to get going on this! I took the schedule and modified it as I suggested back when we started this thread, and we still have more than a month to get content written to stay on it. We can do it (with your help)! karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Jan 22 Marketing Meeting Minutes
Attendees: Sri, Allan, Karen, Emily, Fabiana, Joseph, Andreas, Flavia Topics: * Fosdem Booth staffing: * +1 to Emily, who committed to spending time at the booth. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Standhttps://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Stand#attendees #attendees https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Stand#attendees We have some holes in coverage so we should try to look for opportunities to fill the hole. ACTION: Karen will email the foundations list. Propaganda: *Andreas has a t-shirt and flyer on our privacy campaign are ready for FOSDEM. https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/t-shirts/fosdem2013.png Final work should be done by tomorrow. Our time is growing short in order to put in the order. https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/flyers/privacy-flyer.png Flier is complete, and all attendees have approved the design and text. Venue for Party: We are going back to the original venue - La Bécasse - Fred Peters and Guillaume Desmottes are the organizer. Activities at the booth: Possible entertainment that involves user participation at the booth? * Nerf basketball * Love/Hate wall - put postits on what people like about GNOME and what you don't. * Friends of GNOME * Possible interviews that would support the FoG. * Putting together our own privacy policy and then advertising it. Every once in awhile report on it. Communicate this is what we want to be, even though we are not there yet. Reflect some of our current practices and as the technical part improves we can elaborate on it. Biggest concern is are we doing enough for the people who signed up that they feel good about contributing to GNOME. The impression right now is that we are not doign a great job of that right now. There is some agreement with that. We are trying to improve, Tobias has sent thank you cards to people who have contributed. We are hoping that the contractor that we are working with will alleviate this issue. Nobody should be dropped and not get the t-shirt or not get acknowledged when they contributed money. How should we be addressing? Have a newsletter? How often? Quarterly? Monthly. Allan doesn't think it has to be regular, it could be done at certain points of time or interest. We can time it with a hackfest and put out a comment where we thank contributors for making this happen so that they know what events they are funding. ACTION: Allan and Karen will talk with Bastian and Matthias to see where we are with the privacy controls. Things like privacy mode in Web would be great. ACTION: Sri will try to find other people to help volunteer. * Annual Report 2012 We really need to get going on the annual report. Dave Neary is right that we need to get the right people to write the right articles. Last year was tough because we relied on a committee of three. (It did get done!) https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-December/msg0.html ACTION: Karen and Emily working on a wiki page to plan writing content. Andreas is happy to contribute articles. Having more people contribute the easier this task will be to complete. * Communication with the release team They usually have meetings in IRC, but they are having a Face 2 Face meeting at FOSDEM. Would be great if someone could send the minutes from that meeting to the marketing meeting. We could also invite some of the release team members to marketing list? * Follow up on action items from the last meeting ACTION: Andreas to check with Alberto if Healtcheck can be done for all modules. ACTION Andreas to look into creating materials for FOSDEM (DONE) ACTION: Emily to post on the Forums (on going) * Going to post a call for help on the annual report. ACTION: Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME (on going) ACTION: Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doign their theme * waiting on a proposal so that they have something to switch. ACTION: Karen to setup regular call with release and marketing teams to better coordinate messaging with releases (cancelled - Allan was talking to release team in particpating.. we should meet with them prior to any big decisions) ACTION: Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
reminder marketing meeting 01/22/2012 20:00 UTC
Agenda * FOSDEM * Friends of GNOME * Annual Report 2012 Sorry for the late notice.. been really busy today. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
confirmation of marketing meeting on Tuesday 1/22/2013
We have a marketing meeting.. list of topics? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: moving marketing meeting to Tuesdays instead of Wednesday
For me 20:00 UTC works great since it is my lunch hour. :-) But I can possibly go to 19:00 UTC. I am usually open during that time. sri On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: 18h30 would be a bit too early for me, since I'd still be at work. 19h may work, if possible :) On 14 January 2013 09:18, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Allan, would any evening be better for you two? Would even an hour or two earlier be helpful? Thanks for trying to make the meeting easier to attend. Making it a little earlier would certainly help although, again, I can't guarantee that I'll be able to make every one. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
moving marketing meeting to Tuesdays instead of Wednesday
Does anybody have a problem with attendance if we move the marketing meeting from Wednesday to Tuesday at 20:00 UTC? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Community programs analysis
any feedback on this? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org Date: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM Subject: Fwd: Community programs analysis To: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me Hope this still holds true after this months. I re-read my conclusions and I think they still are valid, I don't know/think the programas changed much lately. -- Forwarded message -- From: Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org Date: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM Subject: Community programs analysis To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org Hi! As promised, here's an overview/analysis of the Ubuntu, Mozilla and Fedora programs. I think there's some interesting data here. I know it's really long, but I think it's jump-reading friendly. The final blocks: thoughts and conclusions; work as a summary, so you can check that directly if you want. Conclusions are somewhat more tl;dr;. = Ubuntu Local Community (LoCo) teams = These are local community teams all around the world, both official and unofficial ones. Anyone can create a group, they only need to gather interested people and follow a howto, which is more or less predictable if you know how communities usually work: - get interested peers - create a mailing list in lists.ubuntu.com - create a wiki homepage in wiki.ubuntu.com - create an IRC channel in freenode - all these resources follow naming guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto Also, before trying to become official you are expected to also: - report monthly following a format - appoint a contact person for the team To start operating officially and be recognized you need approval of the LoCo Council. This means writing an application with your resources, plans and membership. The usual. There's also a lot of documentation regarding governance and conflict resolution. Consider that loco.ubuntu.com provides aggregation for events, news and twitter/identi.ca feeds of the teams. I suppose this is carefully filtered so to avoid endless and meaningless lists like planet.ubuntu.com and similar. Text based information and representation. = Mozilla Communities = There's a newsletter you can subscribe to. They have insanely iconic and graphical representations for everything. The /contribute/ page is interesting, it's divided into: - area of interest - time available + interesting: army of awesome. people answering questions in twitter and similar sites - communities near you Communities takes you to a community mindmap widget that is fancy but a bit useless. It seems most communities handle their own website hosting(?) There doesn't seem to be an immediate homepage or starpage for communities as a community of communinities. It's currently just a regional directory. Couldn't find the program details, I guess I overlooked it... Anyway, googling create mozilla community didn't help. So it might not be newcomer safe. Side note, this is an interesting setup to invite volunteers: - https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Marketing - https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Communications = Fedora ambassadors = Has an structure around regions and a central committee. Much like LoCo teams, but feels a bit more RedHat-ish. Specially considering those stock market names: Asia Pacific (APAC), Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA), Latin America (LATAM), and North America (NA). They have a biz card generator. Handy. Few things are demanded from Ambassadors. Unlike LoCo teams, the Ambassadors seem to limit to individual activities. This seems to be more similar to a local salesman than community fostering. The wiki is a bit boring, to be honest. It lacks the colorfulness of mozilla.org and the 1-2-3 steps of ubuntu.com There is a constant mixture of internal information (templates, processes) of the program with external information (howto, faq, etc). This is extremely tiresome and considerably confusing. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_project_structure = Some thoughts = By far, it seems ubuntu is the more succesful one based on the number of teams. But otoh, mozilla is a newer effort. Fedora doesn't have much excuse though. Mozilla does a great job with its graphical material, it looks much more professional than the other programs. This is just because they have invested in such material design and production. We can do that, but we have to be more demanding, beyond funny picture in the frame. Regarding Ubuntu vs Fedora, I think Fedora's program is an afterthought when compared to LoCo. The two programs are similar, I believe LoCo might be the older one. Or at least it seems older given how
Re: [Fwd: FOSDEM stands, practical information]
Make sure you give some live cds to the owncloud guys. I'm sure they would like to advertise the fact that GNOME supports owncloud in online accounts. sri On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: We got the information on the FOSDEM stand - looks like a fine location to me... karen Original Message Subject: FOSDEM stands, practical information From:Tias Guns t...@fosdem.org Date:Tue, January 8, 2013 6:06 pm To: FOSDEM stands sta...@fosdem.org -- Dear FOSDEM stand holders, This email contains a lot of practical information, please read it until the end. Location You will be located in the K building, on the first floor. Attached (Kniv1_stands.jpg) is an image of the ground plan. Note that this is just a draft; the scale of the tables is an estimate and the spacing between stands is somewhat arbitrary. We've assigned the stand places as such: '''Group A''' 1. KDE 2. KDE 3. QT 4. Gnome 5. Gnome 6. CentOS 7. CentOS 8. Mageia 9. Ubuntu 10. Fedora 11. Fedora '''Group B''' 1. openSuse 2. openSuse 3. debian 4. debian 5. ownCloud 6. oVirt 7. GlusterFS 8. Xen.org '''Group C''' 1. FSFe 2. FSFe 3. FSFe 4. Mozilla 5. Mozilla 6. Libre Graphics Magazine 7. OpenStreetMap 8. Ca-cert 9. Ca-cert If you would prefer to be closer to another stand, or if you have any other questions or requests just contact us! Shipping A number of people have been asking for a shipping address. I'm afraid we don't have any presence on the campus except for during FOSDEM, so we can not provide you with a shipping address. Please try to make your own shipping arrangements, but should you really really have no other option then do mail us. Timings --- Build-up can start from 9:00 on Saturday. Visitors will start passing by slowly around 10-11, it will be at full speed by 13:00 (end of keynotes). There is an overnight storage room in the H and K building. You can also leave stuff in the building overnight (buildings close), but we can not 'guard' the hallways on Sunday morning. We can also not provide any insurance or take responsibility in case of damage or theft. We do have security staff on campus at all times. Sunday starts around 9:00-10:00 and the tear-down starts at 18:00. By 19:00 the latest you should have cleared out so we can start cleaning. Varia - We provide a limited number of table-cloths, but you are more than welcome to provide any on your own, especially if you have something like a banner for your project. We will provide you with power sockets (*) but if you have a couple of extension cables, we recommend you do bring them along if possible. (*) note that Belgium uses type E sockets: http://users.telenet.be/worldstandards/electricity.htm#plugs_e If you need any adapters, make sure to bring them along as we cannot provide you with any ourselves. High-speed Internet uplink will be provided by means of WiFi everywhere. If you have a device that requires a wired ethernet connection you should take a bridge device with you. If you have any further questions, please contact us at sta...@fosdem.org Thank you for your participation and see you in Brussels soon : ) Kind regards, The FOSDEM Team -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: Community programs analysis
-- Forwarded message -- From: Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org Date: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM Subject: Fwd: Community programs analysis To: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me Hope this still holds true after this months. I re-read my conclusions and I think they still are valid, I don't know/think the programas changed much lately. -- Forwarded message -- From: Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org Date: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM Subject: Community programs analysis To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org Hi! As promised, here's an overview/analysis of the Ubuntu, Mozilla and Fedora programs. I think there's some interesting data here. I know it's really long, but I think it's jump-reading friendly. The final blocks: thoughts and conclusions; work as a summary, so you can check that directly if you want. Conclusions are somewhat more tl;dr;. = Ubuntu Local Community (LoCo) teams = These are local community teams all around the world, both official and unofficial ones. Anyone can create a group, they only need to gather interested people and follow a howto, which is more or less predictable if you know how communities usually work: - get interested peers - create a mailing list in lists.ubuntu.com - create a wiki homepage in wiki.ubuntu.com - create an IRC channel in freenode - all these resources follow naming guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto Also, before trying to become official you are expected to also: - report monthly following a format - appoint a contact person for the team To start operating officially and be recognized you need approval of the LoCo Council. This means writing an application with your resources, plans and membership. The usual. There's also a lot of documentation regarding governance and conflict resolution. Consider that loco.ubuntu.com provides aggregation for events, news and twitter/identi.ca feeds of the teams. I suppose this is carefully filtered so to avoid endless and meaningless lists like planet.ubuntu.com and similar. Text based information and representation. = Mozilla Communities = There's a newsletter you can subscribe to. They have insanely iconic and graphical representations for everything. The /contribute/ page is interesting, it's divided into: - area of interest - time available + interesting: army of awesome. people answering questions in twitter and similar sites - communities near you Communities takes you to a community mindmap widget that is fancy but a bit useless. It seems most communities handle their own website hosting(?) There doesn't seem to be an immediate homepage or starpage for communities as a community of communinities. It's currently just a regional directory. Couldn't find the program details, I guess I overlooked it... Anyway, googling create mozilla community didn't help. So it might not be newcomer safe. Side note, this is an interesting setup to invite volunteers: - https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Marketing - https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Communications = Fedora ambassadors = Has an structure around regions and a central committee. Much like LoCo teams, but feels a bit more RedHat-ish. Specially considering those stock market names: Asia Pacific (APAC), Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA), Latin America (LATAM), and North America (NA). They have a biz card generator. Handy. Few things are demanded from Ambassadors. Unlike LoCo teams, the Ambassadors seem to limit to individual activities. This seems to be more similar to a local salesman than community fostering. The wiki is a bit boring, to be honest. It lacks the colorfulness of mozilla.org and the 1-2-3 steps of ubuntu.com There is a constant mixture of internal information (templates, processes) of the program with external information (howto, faq, etc). This is extremely tiresome and considerably confusing. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_project_structure = Some thoughts = By far, it seems ubuntu is the more succesful one based on the number of teams. But otoh, mozilla is a newer effort. Fedora doesn't have much excuse though. Mozilla does a great job with its graphical material, it looks much more professional than the other programs. This is just because they have invested in such material design and production. We can do that, but we have to be more demanding, beyond funny picture in the frame. Regarding Ubuntu vs Fedora, I think Fedora's program is an afterthought when compared to LoCo. The two programs are similar, I believe LoCo might be the older one. Or at least it seems older given how much response it has. It helps that Ubuntu has had people on the payroll devoted to community activities and fostering, Fedora hasn't AFAIK. Also to consider, and perhaps one of my historical peeves
REMINDER: Marketing meeting January 9th 20:00 UTC
Reminder that we have a marketing meeting tomorrow: Topics: 1) managing classic experience expectations 2) 2.8 marketing message and materials 3) FoG 4) follow up on action items from the last meeting PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 8602 Here are the action items from last time: * Sri to follow up on the Ambassador's program * Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doign their theme * Karen to discuss with Vincent about talking to the Press * Karen to setup regular call with release and marketing teams to better coordinate messaging with releases * All: figuring out how to promote extensions, and knowing what issues surround using extensions in GNOME 3. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME legacy
On that note, I think that is an excellent topic for our next marketing meeting. :-) We have some other topics as well including the FoG for privacy, and I will add talking at conferences and what our messages are going to be for 3.8. With Classic mode being advertised with the next release I think we're going to need to get started working on marketing materials, and what conferences we want to have a presence at so that we can start writing our papers. sri On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Yeah, I suspect a lot of people want to see what GNOME will deliver in terms of giving back the original look and feel. Legacy mode is going to look and old and crufty as we continue making GNOME 3 better though. People will end up switching. We don't actually know what legacy mode is going to look like, nor do we know how good it will be. It might well be worth us thinking about doing some expectation management prior to the 3.8 release. This thing might well blow up in our faces. Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
PROPOSED Marketing Meeting: January 9th 20:00 UTC
Same time as usual. Topics: 1) managing classic experience expectations 2) 2.8 marketing message and materials 3) FoG 4) follow up on action items from the last meeting Please propose any other topics for discussion as well. Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME legacy
Yeah, I suspect a lot of people want to see what GNOME will deliver in terms of giving back the original look and feel. Legacy mode is going to look and old and crufty as we continue making GNOME 3 better though. People will end up switching. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.eswrote: Hi, In the Linux Action show they talked about the GNOME legacy mode commenting Matthias Clasen and World of GNOME posts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faR4NiSGbtglist=SP1438E85AF384217E minute 40:30 / 43:45 I have the impression that the legacy mode will be the most commented and scrutinized feature of GNOME 3.8. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Report of the Day event at Kastoria, Greece
That's great! Thank you for sharing this with us! On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ευστάθιος Ιωσηφίδης - Efstathios Iosifidis diamond...@freemail.gr wrote: Hello friends, Last weekend, I was at Kastoria for the day event of Linux Team of Kastoria, Greece. I had a talk about the environment Gnome 3.2. At night, we celebrated openSUSE 12.1 release. Check out my blogpost (in Greek). There are pictures and the presentation. http://stathisuse.blogspot.com/2011/12/3-12-2011.html Have a lot of fun Stathis -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Report of the Day event at Kastoria, Greece
BTW it seems that your blog has been removed and I was not able to see the pictures. :( On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: That's great! Thank you for sharing this with us! On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ευστάθιος Ιωσηφίδης - Efstathios Iosifidis diamond...@freemail.gr wrote: Hello friends, Last weekend, I was at Kastoria for the day event of Linux Team of Kastoria, Greece. I had a talk about the environment Gnome 3.2. At night, we celebrated openSUSE 12.1 release. Check out my blogpost (in Greek). There are pictures and the presentation. http://stathisuse.blogspot.com/2011/12/3-12-2011.html Have a lot of fun Stathis -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
