I use Metacard as well and build standalones with it. The last set of
standalones I built was with the MC Standalone Builder. I do NOT build
standalones in Rev/Livecode and never have. They've always been created in MC.
Shari
On Dec 31, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
On 12/31/11 1
on top of it! I'll let you know if the updated
IDE fixes it :-)
Shari
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? This is driving me up a wall!
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Version 4.6.4 was released yesterday. Log into your LiveCode store
account and download the latest, if your license allows it.
It could be an IDE issue, I'm not sure. I know the engine does a lot
of the parsing, but I tested in LiveCode, not in the MC IDE. I don't
use MC often for actual
This is the point, it seemed to have had zero priority for anyone on
this list!
Actually, some of us don't like to ask for things when we know that
people are donating their time. We simply silently wait for things.
I remember having some sort of frustration with the whole standalone
issue
will take you up on the offer as
soon as this project is ready. And again when I update the existing
project as that is the cranky one.
-- Shari -- (who took a break from programming to write a book about
a bad dog we adopted, we squashed most of the bugs that we inherited
with her :-) The bugs she
Thank you, Jacque, for clarifying the changes for mobile, web, etc.
They are not on my agenda in the near future so you've put my mind
much at ease for moving into an updated version.
I've often read folks preferring the Rev standalone builder. Maybe
with this new project I'll be able to
I can't get Yahoo Groups or Metacard to log me in to take the poll.
All I get is a spinning beachball. All my other internet stuff is
working fine :-(
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METACARD IDE POLL ---
Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
===
1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
100% MC IDE
2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at
with updating. I've got the license I just don't move forward
fast :-)
But always I am grateful to have the MC IDE option. The other choice
frustrates me.
For all of the time you've put into the MC IDE thru the years, I
thank you heartily!
Shari
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don't know if it changed from the Rev version.)
Personally I love it.
:-)
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Long time, not been around.
Is this list still alive?
Cannot assist with your question but the list is still alive!
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abandon us.
Ah but I ramble... by the way, I don't often post but I do catch a
few threads here and there. Got a kick out of the Bad Boy thread
over yonder :-)
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I just spent three hours trying to build a standalone. I want to
make sure I understand what is going on.
It cannot be done in Rev or MC 4.0 at all because of some new
internal hoohah Rev put into the engine? Rev spit out an error
without telling me what caused it, just a bunch of mish mash
was spinning my wheels too much on one thing. So I started
working on a different game that won't come out for a long while plus
writing the book. (see my sig line for the book :-)
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like my stacks and never has.
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None of it wants to play nice with me today! Got an error attempting
to set up Metacard 4.0 using Jacque's Metacard setup 102 on my Mac.
Error in function handler
Can't find handler
Line 199 Col 7 Proc Token: revPathToApplescript
Maybe I was supposed to use the stack in Rev and not MC? Will
Took me a minute but apparently the setup stack needed to be launched
in Rev to find that handler, as I suspected.
The 4.0 Metacard build took but more importantly, it was able to
create a standalone. We're back in business! Hoo hah!
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Second, if you are including MC resources in your stack, Rev may not
like it. Make a copy of one that won't build and, as a test, open it
in MC and use the resource mover to remove all MC resources. Save
the stack. If the file extension is mc on disk then change it to
rev (shouldn't be
Two things to try. First, tell us what those error codes are and
I'll look them up. That should give a clue.
Tried removing all the stacks except xWhatever and I couldn't even
launch my stack since it looks for libUrl on launch. So took out
just the one I remembered it mentioning and
It is, but the scripts are supposed to handle that. The latest
version is 1.03 which should work from MC, so try re-downloading it.
You can find it on RevOnline.
I got it from the Yahoo groups Metacard list. Will go to the other...
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I've noticed that to access a password protected stack, I have to
type it in the message box:
set the passkey of stack somestack to thepassword
That unlocks it. The button doesn't work for me anymore, either.
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to the Rev list. But yes, we're still here, still
loving the MC IDE, and very thankful that you are still making it
possible.
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Still here.
Still prefer the MC IDE.
Had to reinstall it from scratch and for a minute thought I was going
to have to post a Help Me but finally figured it out and am up and
running again.
Thank you that we still have the choice!
Shari
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the art of growing new teeth. I'd read somewhere that they
had successfully implanted pigs teeth and they grew? Or am I
dreaming I read that somewhere? Something about sticking pigs teeth
in humans and creating new teeth, filling our holes? I'd give it
try, I would I would!
Shari
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It's an external, a dll on Windows and a bundle on Macs. You'll need
to ship the appropriate external with your app, and set the
externals property of your mainstack to point to the file's
location. Then you can use revFontLoad and revFontUnload to manage
the fonts.
Beautiful! Worked like a
external folder? And if so, does it
become part of the standalone?
:-)
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such
crookedness. We called Cigna to report it but apparently it is not
illegal. Just immoral and downright rotten.
So be happy to have a dentist, missy. Just demand gas on top of the
novacaine and enjoy the ride :-)
May your day be easy breezy and bring great relief.
Shari
You wouldn't say
Jacques,
How did it go at the dentist? Are you human again?
Shari
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to a file on my computer, with http: added onto
that, as the filename to the img.
Thank you Jacques, yet again, for putting me on the path to the solution :-)
As always, you're dreamboat of the week!
You wear that hat a lot :-)
Shari
And the filename of the img itself is in error
was using a dedicated variable name
somewhere that overwrites the url used by save, but far as I can tell
I am not.
Shari
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then the other with both open.
I'm guessing there'd be memory issues there. I'm sure others can
answer that one better.
Sometimes I open Rev for the documentation while working in MC.
Shari
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David,
These are the folders/files in my Metacard build:
mchelp.mc
mchome.mc
mctools.mc
MetaCard290.app
folder: demo
folder: external
folder: plugins
In the MetaCard bundle:
folder: contents
pkgInfo: APPLMCRD
info.plist
folder: resources
folder: plugins
but the things that make
me cuss... I'd ruther have my peaceful IDE.
So to the Metacard gods and goddesses, I thank you! I send you happy
wishes and joyful words with nary a bad word in sight.
Shari
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Okay, so I've been learning the Rev IDE. Yesterday I had a bunch of
option buttons and I was putting scripts into them via copy/paste.
Didn't want to group them. I pasted the scripts, closed and saved
the script, and saved the stack. Went back to discovered most of the
buttons were missing
is gRevDevelopment? (Please don't tell me you have to turn
Execution Errors on in Rev? MC just automatically does them!)
Shari
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Short reminder: MetaCard will not work with RevMedia!
I hadn't tried to set it up yet. I downloaded all the pieces but
hadn't put them into play yet. I wanted to take a minute and just
attempt to work with Rev before converting. At least learn the
interface a little bit.
Shari
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I proposed. And they accepted :-)
Revolution gets another sale. Herman Silver agreed to my suggestion
to invest in Rev Media so that I could write them a program on my
days there :-)
Shari
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it over and make
suggestions so we're hoping for a go...
Will forward this to myself over there and will keep you all posted...
Thank you, Jacque! As always, thank you yet again!
Shari
You need this:
http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revnet/metacard_setup.zip
This is a setup stack. Open
IDE find a happy home at Herman Silver... may the Metacard
IDE find a happy home at Herman Silver...
:-)
Shari
Jacque's tool is very handy, but no matter how you set up MC the
single most important thing I've found is to make sure you run Rev
FIRST, enter the registration key, and then you
for that. Besides it would be easier there
where I can see what I need to do as I'm doing it.
Wouldn't be a huge sale for Rev, but hey, every sale is a good sale!
And it sure would make my job those two days more fruitful for them...
Shari
could you please explain for non-US citizens:
Who
a suggestion? I sure would like to be working in
MC if I can sell this to her.
Shari
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Changed one more thing in my filters in hopes of receiving emails from list...
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Changed one more thing in my filters in hopes of receiving emails from list...
Shari
It worked! That change did it! I see the problem now... Thank you
guys for putting up with OT emails :-)
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that back then I used
some externals in the resource forks. But I think all my old stacks
would have had that.
No, it's still there in Studio and Enterprise. They did remove it
from Media, since that's an entry-level edition with a few features
turned off.
I'm not sure why Shari couldn't get
no scripting error message from Metacard. It simply
quits, and I get the Unexpectedly Quit error.
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is saying that the code hasn't ever changed.
Somewhere something must have.
Shari
Interesting. I'll take a look. Email is fine if the stack is under
1-2 megs or so; anything larger tends to clog up my inbox.
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thing, when I first switched away from Hypercard eons ago I
hated leaving behind the resource fork. Now I cannot imagine still
using it. I love Metacard's way of embedding sounds, graphics, and
other stacks.
Shari
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There is a report in bugzilla that launch document doesn't always
work for everyone, and it turns out that if you don't have file
associations set up properly it will fail. All that launch
document does is sent a shell command to the OS. I suspect that
launch URL does the same thing. If that's
file
1
Process already open (I guess after it failed the first attempt, the
process got locked open, so it didn't try the others?)
Shari
I don't think so. I just tried the same line as above in the
Message Box on Vista, and got the result, not opened. Same on
XP. Tested with both IE
Can launch url be used in Metacard? It doesn't have a rev in front
of it, so I'm assuming it should work, but it doesn't.
tUrl = http://www.someUrl.com
launch url tUrl just opens a blank url. libUrl is installed.
Any thoughts?
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as it always had
before. I deleted my customized goUrl code and replaced it with
launch url, using the tUrl variable I had always used.
Maybe it needs to be in quotes in the variable?
Shari
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Does the Resource Mover delete existing stacks during the move? Does
it assume that if you haven't checked a box, it should delete the
stack if it's already there?
For example, if the Ask Dialog stack is already embedded, and you
move some other stacks, but leave that box unchecked, does it
with
a ten foot pole... they've been such a bugger to me over the years in
so many ways!
Future apps will make nice, purty windows with nice, purty code to
run them :-) The adventure game has already done that, so everything
integrates visually.
Shari
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that the MC IDE didn't
have, and this was one of them, a standalone builder that did the
work for me.
THANK YOU!
Shari
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Shari, is it possible you might have built an Intel-only version of
your app, and the people running Leopard are on PPC's? Or vice-versa?
That's what the not supported on this architecture means (AFAIK)...
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
I can try recompiling. I compile with the UB
a plugins folder as
provided by Rev, I noticed that the plugins include:
coreimage_support.bundle
jaguar_theme_support.bundle
panther
tiger
Could the missing Leopard bundle explain it?
Shari
If you want, I can send you a copy of the UB runtime engine I've been
using for a while without
that is the issue.
The main Rev site only shows 2.9.
The ftp site doesn't have the 281 series:
ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/engines/
I thought perhaps my particular build was the cause of the Leopard
incompatibility.
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that previous OSX's didn't?
Thank you.
Shari
Ken has compiled a list of issues with Rev which have been reported
to the use-rev list:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/compatibility.htm
Without knowing what sort of things make Leopard unhappy, I don't
even know where to begin to unravel
the engine so that it doesn't get confused.
Especially when you're editing the stack and MC/Rev has a stack with
the same name.
Shari
Hi,
I recently updated my license to Revolution but still wish to use
the MetaCard IDE (I am pleased some of you are keeping that going).
But I am having
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Is this the thing I was supposed to tackle but you've done it far
beyond what I would have done? If so, thank you, Jacques.
I haven't downloaded it yet but I have no doubt it is awesome!
:-)
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folder at all to rename the engine, do
icons, add stacks, swap pLists, swap that other text file.
Breakfast is calling, must go..
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:-)
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OSX Macs, and be
Macintel native, too :-)
(Tariel, I will give your SS code a try as soon as I have this
problemo ironed out, thank you! :-)
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Can you tell I'm working on standalones this week ;-)
FYI - I upgraded from MC to MC/Rev last summer,
but never really got into it's nitty gritty until
this week. I put this off knowing it would be a
bugger, and by golly it is!
Another OSX anomaly I've encountered is that
2.8.1 doesn't
manual
Open, Edit, Save and Close script dozens of times :-)
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the ss command in the message box to bring up
my search stack. It's a handler in my custom backscript, which loads
when MC is launched.
on ss
palette searchScripts
end ss
I don't have it, no.
If it searches all substacks in a stack, I'd like to give it a whirl :-)
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Is this correct? Should Universal run on all flavors of Mac OSX?
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Concerning stack wide search, I guess like many of us, I wrote my
own a while ago. It's sort of enhanced control browser that shows
the structure of multiple stacks of interest and their substacks at
once and can search scripts across them, even searches the script of
unplaced Bg Groups if
is highly complex, so many stacks, so many
objects, and parts of the code are even hard for me to understand (I
did that as an anti-piracy preventer). It even stumps the Script
Debugger at times, so I don't use that either :-)
Thank you for the offer, Jacque. You are very sweet :-)
Shari
is to Rev what Firefox is to Internet Explorer.
Firefox? Eh? Vat iz dis?
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make the attempt, I must search thru the
online archives in the hopes that somebody posted detailed code in
answering somebody else's question. Even a line or two of example
code would be useful, but often isn't there.
Shari
Stepping back to look at the big picture, the meta-question implied
program.
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What an elegant solution! Simple, elegant, I love it!
Shari
I, too, changed the look of MC's ask and answer and embedded them in
my standalones. I found a general solution to this problem that I've
been happy with for a long time:
- Rename your custom ask/answer dialogs to something line
and I've accomplished nothing. So now it's back
to turning Revolution into Metacard, so me and my stacks can float
happily along again.
To all of you who maintain the incredible INCREDIBLE Metacard GUI, I LOVE YOU!
Shari
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remember this issue? I am assuming I no longer need
this workaround as I found no mention anywhere.
Interestingly, if I get the beepLoudness from the msg box, it shows
as 16777472. According to the docs, it should be 0-100 or not work
at all.
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the problem. But it is still perplexing.
I downloaded the latest IDE today in hopes of not having to change
all the handlers, but nope. Am I losing my marbles or has anyone
else ever seen this? I haven't updated to the newest engine, but am
assuming it's more of an IDE thing.
Shari
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up the works.
Is there an easy way? Or will I need to create some mumbo jumbo for it?
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the battle will rage on in years to come...
Following is a news story about the Bring Back of Christmas to Walmart.
Shari
BEGIN NEWS STORY
Anti-PC backlash forces Walmart to bring back Christmas
By Philip Sherwell, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 1:28am GMT 17/12/2006
For American shoppers
? Or do they know that many people? Or are goats that
cheap?
Shari
The nicest card I've received this year had Happy Holiday on it. But
it was written in crayon by the little girls next door, and had a
nice picture of reindeer on the front (or perhaps it was a cat).
Happy Tesco
Dave
lots of presents :-D
And THAT, I know, is totally politically incorrect! Women aren't
supposed to give men footrubs any more... I know I read that
somewhere
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created code into my
projects. I don't trust code that I cannot see or understand. Who
knows what else it might be doing, besides what it claims to be doing.
Does that sound a bit over the top?
:-D
Shari
Evidently, this rigamarole is part of the security apparatus for IE
7! And all I'm
Does anyone know how to make the Win XP Security Warning (Unknown
Publisher) go away?
Yes, but there's a price tag. This fellow explains it pretty well:
http://www.michaellawson.com/?p=14
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I did once create a test UB standalone using engine 2.7.3 and MC IDE
2.6. I built it on an Intel. It did launch.
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. And the above-mentioned shareware
program called QTam Bitmap to Icon on my Windows.
Anybody?
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, it was not creating this text file as it needed.
I've compiled the game using the new Metacard engine in the hopes
that it will solve the problem. Am hoping the new engine can go
where the old one could not. Cross your fingers...
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Thankee :-) No doubt I skipped past a lot of things :-D
Since you went from 2.4.3 to current, you skipped past the point where
Windows icons can be 32-bit and be generated by any icon-making program. :-)
I would recommend getting either Iconographer (for OS X, makes OS X .icns
and Windows
is functional, so I'm assuming it's good.
I've got Revolution working and licensed on Windows. But am trying
to create the Metacard version. When I attempt to input my license
key, it claims it is invalid. I know I am entering it correctly.
What am I missing?
Shari
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also tried with the
Rev IDE as I know that I at least opened the project in Rev a couple
times. Same thing. So this may be an engine issue or it may be an
IDE issue. Dunno which.
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. So I let Mac
have the ones I created, and Windows could use MC's built in ones.
But it wasn't using them, so I set dontUseQT to force Windows to
ignore QT and use MC's built in effects.
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something simple?
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you sure want to:
...
set the dontuseQTEffects to true ## sic!
...
instead of dontuseQT! :-)
Yes Klaus. I edited for brevity :-) Probably not the best idea in
a forum that can be searched by people with questions :-)
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don't colorize either.
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you can still use the ENTER key as a shortcut for Apply and close
in both IDEs
Nifty! Thanks!
Shari
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the fld. Rev wouldn't
let me set the layer to leave the grouping. I may just not know the
trick...)
In the end I did not dissect the group, even though it should have
been. Bet I coulda done it in MC :-) I might still try...
Shari
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Mac and Windows shareware games
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? They seem to be supported
in the engine itself, so why would this work in the standalone but
not a stack opened with the MC IDE? If the MC IDE uses the same
engine as Rev itself?
It throws up an error Can't Find Handler or something to that effect.
S, I am confused.
Shari
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-Macintel-OSX and Windows.) I got the handler
additive from the list archives:
put specialFolderPath(desktop) into theFile
put /NameOfAlias after theFile
if there is a folder theFile then
revDeleteFolder theFile
end if
TIA
Shari
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Mac and Windows shareware games
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do not understand. The engine is the
same regardless, right? The only difference between Rev 2.7 and MC
2.7 is the IDE, the user interface. So there must be libraries or
stacks that contain the special revXXX items, that I could add to my
stack to make them work?
Shari
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if
there are any internet type handlers, if there are any revXXX
functions, special stacks will always need to be included in the
build.
Is this correct?
Shari
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Mac and Windows shareware games
http://www.gypsyware.com
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