[meteorite-list] New Ultra Rare Martian Subgroup

2004-01-22 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, Congratulations to anybody who has any NWA 1195 or NWA 2046 in their collections. Additional study has proven these two Martian meteorites to be even more impressive than originally stated. The very strange elongated shape of NWA 1195 should have given the first clue that

RE: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread kenoneill
Hi Tom List, Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-) All the best with your auctions. Ken O'Neill IMCA 9465 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom aka James Knudson Sent: 22 January 2004 03:49 To: [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Communication Problems with Spirit

2004-01-22 Thread mark ford
Ground controllers were able to send commands to the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit early Wednesday and received a simple signal acknowledging that the rover heard them, but they did not receive expected scientific and engineering data during scheduled communication passes during the rest of that

[meteorite-list] New Martian Meteorite Hints indicates Past Water

2004-01-22 Thread Paul
New Mars rock hints at past water By Dr David Whitehouse BBC News Online science editor Wednesday, 21 January, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3414143.stm A rock found in the Atlas Mountains of southern Morocco in 2001 has been confirmed as Martian in origin. ...Rest of article

[meteorite-list] Impact origin for the greater Ontong Java Plateau?

2004-01-22 Thread Paul
There is a new paper in Earth and Planetary Science Letters that argues that the Ontong Java Plateau in the Pacific Ocean was created by a meteorite impact. The paper is: Stephanie Ingle and Millard F. Coffin, 2004, Impact origin for the greater Ontong Java Plateau? Earth and Planetary

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello Ken and list, Ken wrote; Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-) Yes, they do seem a bit small, but from what I understand they started out huge but never lost their cosmic velocity and by the time ablation was through with them, all that was left was these

[meteorite-list] Impact origin for the greater Ontong Java Plateau?

2004-01-22 Thread Paul
There is a new paper in Earth and Planetary Science Letters that argues that the Ontong Java Plateau in the Pacific Ocean was created by a meteorite impact. The paper is: Stephanie Ingle and Millard F. Coffin, 2004, Impact origin for the greater Ontong Java Plateau? Earth and Planetary

[meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread joseph_town
Hi all, Recently I had the opportunity to purchase a meteorite from South America. I wasn't sure how to go about exchanging the money for the specimen with any kind of assurance that I wouldn't get ripped off. Since I balked, I missed out on the chance. What's the recommended procedure used to

Re: [meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread Michael Farmer
I buy from all over the world, it is a risk, but the first advice would be to ask the list if they know the dealer you are wanting to buy from. I buy from Hans Koser, Rodrigo Martinez, and Eduardo often, never a problem. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread joseph_town
Mike, Thats part of the problem. This wasn't a dealer. I believe it was a private individual. Thanks, Bill I buy from all over the world, it is a risk, but the first advice would be to ask the list if they know the dealer you are wanting to buy from. I buy from Hans Koser, Rodrigo Martinez,

Re: [meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread Michael Farmer
Well who is it? perhaps other list members have delt with them, that is what I meant. If it is a private person, there is substantial risk involved. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January

Re: [meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Morgan
I have never done this, but I've heard you can set up an international escrow account. You can check with your bank. Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Thats part of the problem. This wasn't a dealer. I believe it was a private individual. Thanks, Bill I buy from all over the world,

[meteorite-list] Completing a purchase/escrow acccount

2004-01-22 Thread David Freeman
Dear Matt, Mike, List; I have visited with my banker in the past concerning an escrow to sell a bunch of jade over seas and at Tucson. Escrow Accounts are quite easy to set up, bank holds the money until the item is either inspected and purchased, or the item is returned and the seller receives

[meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19story_id=3903 Great balls of fire, its a meteorite! expatica.com (Holland) 22 January 2004 AMSTERDAM - A large number of star gazers claim to have seen a large fireball shoot through cloud cover on Wednesday night in what experts

[meteorite-list] 1.5 Billion-Year-Old Crater Found In Finland

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_543619,00050003.htm 1.5 billion-year-old meteorite crater found in Finland Agence France-Presse Helsinki, Finland January 22, 2004 A crater from a meteorite that collided with earth some 1.5 billion years ago has been discovered in Finland by two amateur

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium

2004-01-22 Thread Martin Altmann
There are already track and brightness data? Or how could the ESA-man predict, that the meteorite will have a size of 10 - 50cm? Martin A. - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:50 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread dean bessey
If it is a private individual who contacted you with a deal thats to good to be true I would be wary. If it is one of the 3 dealers farmer mentioned earlier you can feel safe as I have spent thousands of dollars with them (I even stay at Rodrigos house when in Chile - really nice guy). I have herd

RE: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium

2004-01-22 Thread Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems
Because he is a scientist *g*. They are always right :-). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium

[meteorite-list] Destination: Meridiani Planum

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/22jan_meridianiplanum.htm Destination: Meridiani Planum NASA Science News January 22, 2004 On January 24, 2004, NASA's Mars rover Opportunity is scheduled to land on a Martian plain in search of evidence for water. January 22, 2004: On January 24, at

[meteorite-list] UK Fall statistics..

2004-01-22 Thread mark ford
Hi, Someone said to me a while ago, that the UK (i.e Great Britain and Ireland) is 'overdue' for a meteorite fall. Whilst I realize it is in theory a reasonably random event, for a bit of fun I decided to have a look at the figures, Here is what I found: There have been 19 confirmed falls in

[meteorite-list] Space Race- NY Times

2004-01-22 Thread Howard Wu
A lttle off topic, but here's a good article on the potential coming spacerace with China. Let hope instead for healthy competition, if not cooperation in space exploration in this century. Howard Wu http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/international/asia/22SPAC.html?pagewanted=1th Yahoo!

Re: [meteorite-list] UK Fall statistics..

2004-01-22 Thread DNAndrews
mark ford wrote: So it indeed appears we (UK) are 'over due' for a fall, statistically anyway, especially since it was 22 years between the last two and 17 years since the last one and they should average 11.8 years. Hi Mark, Wasn't Leighlinbridge a fall? November 1999. Best, Dave

[meteorite-list] Belgium-Germany Bolide 21 january

2004-01-22 Thread vincent J
Many many people in Belgium have observed this great blue-greenbolide. Look this site: http://www.mira.be/tmp/bolide-fr.html VincentOffres dernière minute ! Cliquez-ici __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://space.com/missionlaunches/spirit_silent_040122.html 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover By Leonard David space.com 22 January 2004 PASADENA, Calif. -- Mars Rover officials at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory announced that a serious anomaly occured onboard the robot Spirit

[meteorite-list] Viva Espana - have a look!

2004-01-22 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi All, I'm forwarding this link from the German meteorite list. Obviously, the first real meteorite individuals from the recent Spanish fall (January 4) have been recovered - looks like the real McCoy: http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2004/01/20/ciencia/1074627508.html Here's a Google

[meteorite-list] re: Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium

2004-01-22 Thread Marco Langbroek
There are already track and brightness data? Hello Martin, There's a preliminary trajectory from visual sightings in Belgium and the Netherlands. Phillipe Mollet of the Belgian VVS has been working on that. Fireball started over Belgium and ended over Germany. Or how could the ESA-man

Re: [meteorite-list] completing a purchase

2004-01-22 Thread David Freeman
Dear List; OR, you can buy your meteorites from those you trust: Dean, Mike, Jim, the other Jim, Bill, Blaine, Anne, Matt, Robert, Ken, Mark, Adam, Bob, Dave, Dave, Dave, mike, and the other mike, Michael, Paul, John, Walter, Bernd, Fred, the other Fred, Ron, (and not the other Ron whose name

!RE: [meteorite-list] UK Fall statistics..

2004-01-22 Thread mark ford
Dave, Leighlinbridge is in southern Ireland not classed as in the UK.. Of course none of these statistics take into account recoverability over the years and the fact that we are an irregular shaped island surrounded by sea, the country is higher than it is wide. Also there are more potential

[meteorite-list] The Italian Job ;-)

2004-01-22 Thread Sharkkb8
Is it true? Has Matteo gone the way of everyone's favorite listee, [*shudder*] Joel Warren? Gregory . ---BeginMessage--- I know that you are reading...you are a craven that it has fear to answer to my last email, comfortable to throw me outside the list and not to answer to my email. You are

[meteorite-list]  AD - Bensour Auctions ending tonight

2004-01-22 Thread philippe thomas
Hello All, 20 auctions of Bensour fragments with crust between 1.21 and 6.99 g are ending tonight. All are pristine stones which have been collected soon after the fall. Keep an eye on it, it's a good opportunity to acquire some very fresh Bensour at low prices ! Average shipping delay for the

Re: [meteorite-list] The Italian Job ;-)

2004-01-22 Thread David Weir
Gregory, Maybe a late Christmas present from Art? David __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Spirit Opportunity Update - January 22, 2004

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html SPIRIT UPDATE: - Jan 22, 2004, 10:35 am PST The Mars Exploration Rover Spirit radioed a beep Thursday morning confirming that it had received a transmission from Earth. Still, it has not returned any data

Re: [meteorite-list] The Italian Job ;-)

2004-01-22 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe a late Christmas present from Art? Matteo's response (calling Art nasty names on a different list) demonstrates his "judgment" and people-skills.not that anyone needed a further demonstration. A childhood tuneis nowrunning through my head"Ding Dong, the

[meteorite-list] The Italian Job Part II ;-)

2004-01-22 Thread Sharkkb8
I'm receiving numerous off-list emails, folks wanting further detailsabout my list-inquiryconcerning Matteo's apparent expulsion.I attach belowall I know about it - a post Ireceived this morning, on a different list. __ Forwarded Message: Subj:

[meteorite-list] Recent Meteorite Finds in Spain from Palencia Bolide

2004-01-22 Thread Robert Verish
Apparently... Meteorites rain mainly on the northern plain in Spain! ;-) -- Bob V. Forward Message - [meteorite-list] Viva Espana - have a look! Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:01:43 +0100 Previous message: [meteorite-list] re: Fireball Seen

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status - January 22, 2004

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202)

[meteorite-list] WTB: Allende

2004-01-22 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, It seems I am forever drawn tothe "classic" falls and finds. It also seems that two or three times a yearI buy some Allende. Does anyone have a nice slice of Allende for sale. I have several nice individuals but I don't want to slice them up. Thanks. -Walter

[meteorite-list] more on Allende

2004-01-22 Thread ajones
Hello All; Speaking of Allende, does anyone know how recently people have found specimens of this meteorite in the strewn field? Can any of this classification of stone have lasted in the weather? Best Regards, Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Elongated Orthopyroxene Crystal Image

2004-01-22 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, Six List members requested an image of the oriented grains I was speaking of on my last post entitled New Ultra Rare Martian Subclass. I do not have any images of the oriented orthopyroxene crystals in NWA1195 but Jim Strope gave me permission to post a link to an image he has

Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende

2004-01-22 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Art and list Art wondered: "Speaking of Allende, does anyone know how recently people have foundspecimens of this meteorite in the strewn field? Can any of thisclassification of stone have lasted in the weather?" It is my understanding they are still hunting and finding stones. While at

Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende

2004-01-22 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A couple list members have been thinking about making a hunting trip, if you are interested I will let you know the names. There is a history of trouble for gringos in the Allende strewnfieldarea, if I remember correctly. Wasn't there some story about a

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread S. Culver
Tom, Ok you`ve convinced me these are the two genuine articles! I`ll Bid. At 08:21 AM 1/22/04 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello Ken and list, Ken wrote; Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-) Yes, they do seem a bit small, but from what I understand they

[meteorite-list] Beagle 2 Team Shows Support For Troubled Spirit Rover

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.beagle2.com/news/index.htm Beagle 2 team shows support for troubled Spirit Rover January 22, 2004 ... Summary The Spirit Rover, the first of two NASA surface missions to Mars landing within a month of

Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende

2004-01-22 Thread Michael Farmer
Art and all, I have bought virtually all of the Allende from the strewnfield for the last 5 years. 4 and 5 years ago I was getting about 10 kilos per year. Last year I got about 600 grams! The people I contract with take 20 to 30 people out hunting every day during the summertime before the

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread ROCKS ON FIRE
Tom, sorry, Mate, I reckon you are going a bit too far, saying: All the other meteorites with the name Canyon Diablo or Odessa are fakes, ... Do you really believe what you are stating? And this as IMCA member? Is that supposed to be an authenticity statement? >From my point of view this

Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende

2004-01-22 Thread Adam Hupe
Hello Gregory and List, I heard the same thing about a dealer that will remain nameless who went down there and paid a dollar a gram to the farmers who were finding them. Since the farmers were only being paid a fraction of this amount by lets just say "local people in charge" the farmers

[meteorite-list] Re:The Italian Job Part II ;-)

2004-01-22 Thread Fredmeteorhall
Please, do not post anything from that mental midget. Praise the meteorite Gods that he is OFF THIS LIST! Thank You, Fred Hall

[meteorite-list] south american sales

2004-01-22 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
I have had sales with both rodrigo and edwardo.Each time I have gotten my specimens without a hitch.The only downer is the time to wait for them.Each time they took about 3 to 4 weeks.But they both deal with money orders, so it takes time to get to them.Then it is a matter of time to send the item

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Norbert Heike Kammel, No, this is was not saidon the auction, this was only told to the list as a comical response to Ken O'Neill's comical question; "Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-)" I donot think that, and I do not expect anyone with a brain

[meteorite-list] NWA 482 50% OFF @ $2500/GM .19G Thin Slice W/ Crust

2004-01-22 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
Good Evening List, I don't post many sales ads on the list, but I would like to offer this specimen to all of you at a special price: NWA 482 Lunar, Crystalline Impact-Melt Breccia .19g slice with a crusted edge- $475 (this weekend only) plus FREE USPS priority mail shipping (air letter post

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread Thomas Webb
Norbert, Did you see the little emoticon "smiley face" at the end of Tom's message? I think he was just having a little fun. ThomasROCKS ON FIRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom,sorry, Mate, I reckon you are going a bit too far, saying: All the other meteorites with the name Canyon Diablo or Odessa

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread ROCKS ON FIRE
Sorry, Tom, unfortunately the little smiling face did not show up in my e-mail- so you really got me. My appologies if I was a bit too harsh. I am not a newbe on this list, and if I can get fooled like this, I reckon some younger ones can be mislead too. So I think it is good we cleared the

Re: [meteorite-list] HTML help on ebay?

2004-01-22 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Norbert, Hand shake gladly accepted! It was a pretty good story though! : ) (smile) I am glad to see you standing up for what was right evenif it was a misunderstanding! Your email did get me thinking about misunderstandings and lead me to make that perfectly clear on the auction as well.