Dear List Members,
Congratulations to anybody who has any NWA 1195 or NWA 2046 in their
collections. Additional study has proven these two Martian meteorites to be
even more impressive than originally stated. The very strange elongated
shape of NWA 1195 should have given the first clue that
Hi Tom List,
Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-)
All the best with your auctions.
Ken O'Neill
IMCA 9465
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Ground controllers were able to send commands to the Mars Exploration
Rover Spirit early Wednesday and received a simple signal acknowledging
that the rover heard them, but they did not receive expected scientific
and engineering data during scheduled communication passes during the
rest of that
New Mars rock hints at past water
By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor
Wednesday, 21 January, 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3414143.stm
A rock found in the Atlas Mountains
of southern Morocco in 2001 has been
confirmed as Martian in origin.
...Rest of article
There is a new paper in Earth and Planetary
Science Letters that argues that the Ontong
Java Plateau in the Pacific Ocean was created
by a meteorite impact. The paper is:
Stephanie Ingle and Millard F. Coffin, 2004,
Impact origin for the greater Ontong Java
Plateau? Earth and Planetary
Hello Ken and list, Ken wrote;
Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-)
Yes, they do seem a bit small, but from what I understand they started out
huge but never lost their cosmic velocity and by the time ablation was
through with them, all that was left was these
There is a new paper in Earth and Planetary
Science Letters that argues that the Ontong
Java Plateau in the Pacific Ocean was created
by a meteorite impact. The paper is:
Stephanie Ingle and Millard F. Coffin, 2004,
Impact origin for the greater Ontong Java
Plateau? Earth and Planetary
Hi all,
Recently I had the opportunity to purchase a meteorite from South America. I
wasn't sure how to go about exchanging the money for the specimen with any
kind of assurance that I wouldn't get ripped off. Since I balked, I missed
out on the chance. What's the recommended procedure used to
I buy from all over the world, it is a risk, but the first advice would be
to ask the list if they know the dealer you are wanting to buy from.
I buy from Hans Koser, Rodrigo Martinez, and Eduardo often, never a problem.
Mike Farmer
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Mike,
Thats part of the problem. This wasn't a dealer. I believe it was a private
individual.
Thanks,
Bill
I buy from all over the world, it is a risk, but the first advice would be
to ask the list if they know the dealer you are wanting to buy from.
I buy from Hans Koser, Rodrigo Martinez,
Well who is it? perhaps other list members have delt with them, that is what
I meant. If it is a private person, there is substantial risk involved.
Mike Farmer
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I have never done this, but I've heard you can set up an international
escrow account. You can check with your bank.
Matt Morgan
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Mike,
Thats part of the problem. This wasn't a dealer. I believe it was a private
individual.
Thanks,
Bill
I buy from all over the world,
Dear Matt, Mike, List;
I have visited with my banker in the past concerning an escrow to sell a
bunch of jade over seas and at Tucson. Escrow Accounts are quite easy to
set up, bank holds the money until the item is either inspected and
purchased, or the item is returned and the seller receives
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19story_id=3903
Great balls of fire, its a meteorite!
expatica.com (Holland)
22 January 2004
AMSTERDAM - A large number of star gazers claim to have seen a large fireball shoot
through cloud cover on Wednesday night in what experts
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_543619,00050003.htm
1.5 billion-year-old meteorite crater found in Finland
Agence France-Presse
Helsinki, Finland
January 22, 2004
A crater from a meteorite that collided with earth some 1.5 billion years
ago has been discovered in Finland by two amateur
There are already track and brightness data?
Or how could the ESA-man predict, that the meteorite will have a size of
10 - 50cm?
Martin A.
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If it is a private individual who contacted you with a
deal thats to good to be true I would be wary. If it
is one of the 3 dealers farmer mentioned earlier you
can feel safe as I have spent thousands of dollars
with them (I even stay at Rodrigos house when in Chile
- really nice guy). I have herd
Because he is a scientist *g*. They are always right :-).
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/22jan_meridianiplanum.htm
Destination: Meridiani Planum
NASA Science News
January 22, 2004
On January 24, 2004, NASA's Mars rover Opportunity is scheduled to land
on a Martian plain in search of evidence for water.
January 22, 2004: On January 24, at
Hi,
Someone said to me a while ago, that the UK (i.e Great Britain and
Ireland) is 'overdue' for a meteorite fall.
Whilst I realize it is in theory a reasonably random event, for a bit
of fun I decided to have a look at the figures, Here is what I found:
There have been 19 confirmed falls in
A lttle off topic, but here's a good article on the potential coming spacerace with China. Let hope instead for healthy competition, if not cooperation in space exploration in this century.
Howard Wu
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/international/asia/22SPAC.html?pagewanted=1th
Yahoo!
mark ford wrote:
So it indeed appears we (UK) are 'over due' for a fall, statistically
anyway, especially since it was 22 years between the last two and 17
years since the last one and they should average 11.8 years.
Hi Mark,
Wasn't Leighlinbridge a fall? November 1999.
Best,
Dave
Many many people in Belgium have observed this great blue-greenbolide.
Look this site: http://www.mira.be/tmp/bolide-fr.html
VincentOffres dernière minute ! Cliquez-ici
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http://space.com/missionlaunches/spirit_silent_040122.html
'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover
By Leonard David
space.com
22 January 2004
PASADENA, Calif. -- Mars Rover officials at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory
announced that a serious anomaly occured onboard the robot Spirit
Hi All,
I'm forwarding this link from the German meteorite list.
Obviously, the first real meteorite individuals from the
recent Spanish fall (January 4) have been recovered -
looks like the real McCoy:
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2004/01/20/ciencia/1074627508.html
Here's a Google
There are already track and brightness data?
Hello Martin,
There's a preliminary trajectory from visual sightings in Belgium and the
Netherlands. Phillipe Mollet of the Belgian VVS has been working on that.
Fireball started over Belgium and ended over Germany.
Or how could the ESA-man
Dear List;
OR, you can buy your meteorites from those you trust: Dean, Mike, Jim,
the other Jim, Bill, Blaine, Anne, Matt, Robert, Ken, Mark, Adam, Bob,
Dave, Dave, Dave, mike, and the other mike, Michael, Paul, John,
Walter, Bernd, Fred, the other Fred, Ron, (and not the other Ron whose
name
Dave,
Leighlinbridge is in southern Ireland not classed as in the UK..
Of course none of these statistics take into account recoverability over
the years and the fact that we are an irregular shaped island surrounded
by sea, the country is higher than it is wide. Also there are more
potential
Is it true? Has Matteo gone the way of everyone's favorite listee, [*shudder*] Joel Warren?
Gregory
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Hello All,
20 auctions of Bensour fragments with crust between 1.21 and 6.99 g are ending tonight.
All are pristine stones which have been collected soon after the fall. Keep an
eye on it, it's a good opportunity to acquire some very fresh Bensour at
low prices !
Average shipping delay for the
Gregory,
Maybe a late Christmas present from Art?
David
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The Mars Exploration Rover Spirit radioed a beep Thursday
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Earth. Still, it has not returned any data
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Maybe a late Christmas present from Art?
Matteo's response (calling Art nasty names on a different list) demonstrates his "judgment" and people-skills.not that anyone needed a further demonstration.
A childhood tuneis nowrunning through my head"Ding Dong, the
I'm receiving numerous off-list emails, folks wanting further detailsabout my list-inquiryconcerning Matteo's apparent expulsion.I attach belowall I know about it - a post Ireceived this morning, on a different list.
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Meteorites rain mainly on the northern plain in Spain!
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Hello Everyone,
It seems I am forever drawn tothe "classic"
falls and finds.
It also seems that two or three times a yearI
buy some Allende. Does anyone have a nice slice of Allende for sale. I
have several nice individuals but I don't want to slice them up.
Thanks.
-Walter
Hello All;
Speaking of Allende, does anyone know how recently people have found
specimens of this meteorite in the strewn field? Can any of this
classification of stone have lasted in the weather?
Best Regards, Art
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Dear List Members,
Six List members requested an image of the oriented grains I was speaking of
on my last post entitled New Ultra Rare Martian Subclass. I do not have
any images of the oriented orthopyroxene crystals in NWA1195 but Jim Strope
gave me permission to post a link to an image he has
Hello Art and list Art wondered: "Speaking of Allende, does anyone know how recently people have foundspecimens of this meteorite in the strewn field? Can any of thisclassification of stone have lasted in the weather?" It is my understanding they are still hunting and finding stones. While at
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A couple list members have been thinking about making a hunting trip, if you are interested I will let you know the names.
There is a history of trouble for gringos in the Allende strewnfieldarea, if I remember correctly. Wasn't there some story about a
Tom, Ok you`ve convinced me these are the two genuine articles!
I`ll Bid.
At 08:21 AM 1/22/04 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote:
Hello Ken and list, Ken wrote;
Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem a bit small to me ;-)
Yes, they do seem a bit small, but from what I understand they
http://www.beagle2.com/news/index.htm
Beagle 2 team shows support for troubled Spirit Rover
January 22, 2004
...
Summary
The Spirit Rover, the first of two NASA surface missions to Mars
landing within a month of
Art and all, I have bought virtually all of the Allende from the strewnfield
for the last 5 years. 4 and 5 years ago I was getting about 10 kilos per
year. Last year I got about 600 grams! The people I contract with take 20
to 30 people out hunting every day during the summertime before the
Tom,
sorry, Mate, I reckon you are going a bit too far, saying:
All the other meteorites with the name Canyon
Diablo or Odessa are fakes, ...
Do you really believe what you are stating? And this as IMCA member?
Is that supposed to be an authenticity statement?
>From my point of view this
Hello Gregory and List,
I heard the same thing about a dealer that will remain nameless who went
down there and paid a dollar a gram to the farmers who were finding them.
Since the farmers were only being paid a fraction of this amount by lets just
say "local people in charge" the farmers
Please, do not post anything from that mental midget. Praise the meteorite Gods that he is OFF THIS LIST!
Thank You, Fred Hall
I have had sales with both rodrigo and edwardo.Each time I have gotten my
specimens without a hitch.The only downer is the time to wait for
them.Each time they took about 3 to 4 weeks.But they both deal with money
orders, so it takes time to get to them.Then it is a matter of time to
send the item
Norbert Heike Kammel,
No, this is was not saidon the auction, this was
only told to the list as a comical response to Ken O'Neill's
comical question;
"Are you sure they caused the craters ? they seem
a bit small to me ;-)"
I donot think that, and I do not expect anyone with a
brain
Good Evening List,
I don't post many sales ads on the list, but I would like to offer this specimen to
all of you at a special price:
NWA 482 Lunar, Crystalline Impact-Melt Breccia .19g slice with a crusted edge- $475
(this weekend only) plus FREE USPS priority mail shipping (air letter post
Norbert,
Did you see the little emoticon "smiley face" at the end of Tom's message? I think he was just having a little fun.
ThomasROCKS ON FIRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom,sorry, Mate, I reckon you are going a bit too far, saying: All the other meteorites with the name Canyon Diablo or Odessa
Sorry, Tom,
unfortunately the little smiling face did not show up in my e-mail- so you
really got me.
My appologies if I was a bit too harsh. I am not a newbe on this list, and
if I can get fooled like this, I reckon some younger ones can be mislead
too. So I think it is good we cleared the
Norbert, Hand shake gladly accepted! It was a pretty
good story though! : ) (smile) I am glad to see you standing up for what was
right evenif it was a misunderstanding! Your email did get me
thinking about misunderstandings and lead me to make that perfectly clear on the
auction as well.
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