Dean,
EXACTLY this experiment has been performed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAasVXtCOI
or as near as makes no difference. Every dowser
failed the test. (This URL was posted to the List
at the beginning of this kerfluffle by Darren
Garrison.)
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I'm going to need to see a visible light photograph of an exoplanet to
confirm their existence.
Here it is:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101015105935.htm
Next? Will the next in line please step forward?
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the Gizmo made in
China and shipped. Pay off the Ministry of Internal
Security in Bagdad for the contract... How much
does that come to?
Ain't Free Enterprise great!
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of these possible events would have
to be the Venus re-surfacing and crust/mantle melting by
impact. This would leave the other events to be blowby of
that event, even the Flora breakup. Something happened.
Past that, it's speculation.
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/books?id=Fo-GY4J1h4cCpg=PA242lpg=PA242dq=whipple+comet+jetssource=blots=qOBQ9JRGUksig=nvwqERqQ_16nU0J76zG4uKnS00Ahl=enei=W0nTTLiRCof0sgarl7j6DAsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1sqi=2ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepageq=whipple%20comet%20jetsf=false
on page 242.
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of snowball comets, by
M. K. Wallis A. K. MacPherson, in Astronomy and
Astrophysics, vol. 98, no. 1, May 1981, p. 45-49.
A downloadable PDF.
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Has no one noticed the NAME given to
this valley before they decide to take a
stroll (or a roll) through it?
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it, but it could grab a lot
of lovely snapshots on that pass.
Of course, we'd have to get it funded by Congress...
Groan.
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Optical telescopes can have very wide fields of view and are relative
cheap to build and operate making them the obvious choice, especially
in this cash strapped era.
Most important, the photons are FREE.
Unlike all those expensive electrons you
have to buy for radar...
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It shows signs of olive and pyroxene,
I meant OLIVINE, of course.
when we got their...
and THERE. Spell checkers don't catch
these mistakes, only working brains, so...
New rule: No more Posts after midnight.
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believe [it] was originally part of an
asteroid fragment that separated 470 million
years ago between Mars and Jupiter. (From
the other local TV station.)
Remember... Five-year-olds.
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until just a very few years ago when one cell
became two and two, four...
Just for a while. They'll be moving on, after a while.
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Renazzo than like Larry's
suggestion of Murchison, or about half as wet.
5%?
There's no substitution for actually going there and
looking it over for yourself, which someday we'll be
able to. Until then, we'll have to have fun guessing
and peeking through the wet murk of Earth.
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scheduled for 2105...
2105 == 2015
Awards are being sent to the Society of
Astrophysical Typesetters right now...
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the modern goal of Science -- you made
the tabloids!
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is a more dreadful
and potent power than the clever trick of nuclear
reactions.
Which is why I find it so strange that some geologists
dismiss the life-extincting potential of major impacts.
Me? I think we've been dam lucky.
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energy very close to 4,183,999,999,994,176 joules,
or one megaton, stored in a 10 kg slug, a mass which
if it were plutonium (and standing still) could only
produce an explosion of 0.2 megatons.
Potent stuff, kinetic energy.
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times
the size of the impactor
If you find a 100-km crater on Earth, you can figure
the impactor was 8-9 km if fast and 11-12 km if slow,
and delivered 100 (crater diameter) ^ 4, or 100,000,000
megatons. Chicxulub, in other words.
You can do that much with a thumb...
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the impactor was 8-9 km if fast and 11-12 km if slow,
and delivered 100 (crater diameter) ^ 4, or 100,000,000
megatons. Chicxulub, in other words.
You can do that much with a thumb...
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to calculate. Now, I will go back to my favorite
Impact Calculator Game: finding the inputs that
will land a 100-ton HOBA without making a crater...
or a pit.
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Back in January, there was a List discussion of a planet
of the Kepler 10 (unnamed) star which has a density of
8.8, as heavy as iron and an argument about whether
an entirely iron planet could exist and how.
Now we have a (roughly) terrestial planet with a density
of 11.0, or about the density
as likely
to be a higher density than a lower one.
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to remember this planet is real, isn't
it? -- there must be a crust of dense refractory minerals
made from all the denser and refractory elements. Perhaps
this planet is the fried remains of a small gas giant core
that spiuraled in close?
One thing I can guarantee -- it's one weird place.
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a result.
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to vary like you were on a roller coaster. Give
it plenty of room; don't want to clip the asteroid, ya know...
It's a long way to the nearest body shop.
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Diplodocus carnegii... He's fiberglass; he
won't mind.
The lack of local reference, due to the fact that only
eight meteorites have been found in Pennsylvania,
may be largely responsible for the lack of emphasis
on them.
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Earths or the
volume of 3,632,000,000 Cereses or the voume of four
trillion 100-km asteroids.
Stars are REALLY big. A trivial impactor like, say, an
asteroid big enough to kill all the dinosaurs on Earth
would hardly be noticeable being swallowed by the
Sun. Might make a ripple
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at Ceres in Feb., 2015.
It's possible Dawn might go on to Pallas if enough
fuel remains, but I'm guessing Ceres will be more
than enough interesting that we won't want to leave.
Or Dawn could prove to have the Mars Rover Spirit!
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out, but you can never leave...
I bet you even think that when you die, you won't
be on Facebook any more.
So sad.
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not completely
differentiate after the event.
And let's not even get close to the question of how
a volatile-rich planet with a huge iron core could FORM
this close to the Sun...
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unsuitable for a human colony
of any size...
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From: Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net
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Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars
a whole new solar system. Jumpin' Jupiter
wandering back and forth . Now, we have Migrating
Mercury. The problem is migrated from where?
Where do huge-iron-cored terrestrial planets with
scads of volatiles form? It's really hard to think of
any spot that provides vast amounts of both.
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unheeded,
Without knowledge or lustre or name.
-H. P. Lovecraft, Nemesis, 1918
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formation, or that the nebula at planet time
included materials that were not present at
sun-time, or...
Everybody get out their bag of theories.
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... is currently working
on a line of launch vehicles aimed at winning the Google
Lunar X Prize. The company was also a competitor for
both the Ansari X-Prize and America's Space Prize...
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Disclaimer: All
Video of 2011MD against background stars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUjbA21jjsc
The pass was at 7600 miles (instead of the
predicted 7500 miles) and it was 3.5 hours
late from the predicted time.
Mr. Newton could not be reached for comment.
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...
I missed the update and so did at least one news
outlet (The Mail Telegraph, UK) who reported it
late. The shame of it -- to do no better than a
newspaper!
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death on any planet. High benefit, low monthly
premiums; just present the murderous meteorite
to verify your claim...
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To: Martin
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_planet_moon
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The Clouds of Kordylewski? I think they come and go...
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To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com;
meteorite-list
, the
physics of pendulums is a complete bird's nest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_%28mathematics%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum
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geologists on Mars-suits,
carrying those funny little hammers, and scooting
around in monofuel Humvees, living in solar tents?
Until then...
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From: E.P. Grondine epgrond
it?
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Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 9:16 PM
Subject: Re
, reliable, almost unchanging place, very secure,
but if we lived for say, a billion years, Earth would appear
to be a restless, chaotic, unstable, and quite unpredictable
world, an utterly insane planet.
I like it, though...
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are rejected by most astronomers.
Interpretations of the dates are not straightforward. the 24th of
April and the 11th of May have also be argued for as the correct
date by various scholare. The July 4 date was calculated by
Jan Julius Lodewijk Duyvendak for Jan Oort in 1942.
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/Minor_planet_moon
Only close moons are likely to be chips off the
old block.
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in it.
Oh, wait! It is exactly like that.
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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011
perturbations over a long time to regularize those orbits.
And, if there is a Vestan satellite, there's a good chance
it will show up in the year that Dawn there, whether
detected in advance or not.
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Sent: Saturday, July 09
coming closer to the Moon at its apogee and closer to the Earth at its
apogee...
I meant:
coming closer to the Moon at its apogee and closer to the Earth at its
perigee...
Duh.
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or Perplexed, because I am.
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:23 AM
Subject
strangely does not
acknowledge its more famous Alabama sibling.
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To: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent
the Pole (so you can line up for a polar
orbit) has been a problem. North? South? East? West?
Front? Back? Which pole? Vesta's irregularity poses a
limit on How low can you go? Interplanetary Limbo
can be hazardous to your spacecraft...
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will find them here:
http://www.hbook.com/history/magazine/camerondahl.asp
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you have a 1964-1972 copy..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_and_the_Chocolate_Factory#Reception
Speaking of satire, here's more information on
the poor enslaved population of Oompah Loompahs:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oompah_Loompah
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to point out that I was a decent person... really, I am.
You can't talk to people like that. It's a waste of time.
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/571364main_pia14315-full_full.jpg
Large Composite image
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/571423main_pia14316-full_full.jpg
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where I can find photos of Fukang main mass ?
http://www.meteorites4sale.net/Fukang_MM.jpg
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Sent
://www.aanda.org/index.php?option=com_articleaccess=doidoi=10.1051/0004-6361/201117504Itemid=129
Those sneaky minor, er, dwarf planets! You can't
tell what they'll get up to next!
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satellite Nix is spelled that way, as a cheat
to use the name even though there is a minor planet
3908 Nyx. You could change the spelling of 1865 Cerberus
to Cerberis and have the three-headed dog (suitable
for a small yappy moon).
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, Lakhesis, Atropos...
Bring on the Moons!
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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:26 PM
bottoms and albedo rims of
no apparent height. Filled with dark lava? Flooded
craters as are seen on other bodies? Many gouges
revealed on the left, at lower sun-angles, are sinuous,
like rilles. More lava flows?. Why no recent-ish craters
bigger than 20 miles?
I love a mystery.
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system
talk.
This is all tourist talk of Vesta, as the boat pulls into
the harbor and we get a first glance. The real work is
yet to be done on the former protoplanet (or perhaps
planetesimal or planetary embryo) now known as Vesta.
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quite complex calculations verbally.
This is referred to in the piece on Chinese numerals
and Herodotus' Histories contain many examples
of his calculating out loud.
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it (and I) live on top of an old limestone cliff
in a wet climate, I know perfectly well how it formed.
I have no need to scratch for any shocked materials.
I only hope one doesn't open up under my house...
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of it.
I think you need a bigger bang... even to toss it there.
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rmfor
Close, very Close... Great minds, similar tracks, etc.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/multimedia/pia14323.html
They call it Snowman.
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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Long awaited Vesta Image link
http://www.space.com/12536-3-dwarf-planets-discovered-kuiper-belt-pluto.html
Astronomers have discovered three small, icy worlds
orbiting the sun near Pluto, on the outer reaches of
the solar system.
The three newfound bodies are likely big enough to
be rounded by their own gravity, which means
material
transfer by Gladman:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aj-6ol7vOoEJ:citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.15.9514%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dps+brett+gladman+meteoritecd=37hl=enct=clnkgl=ussource=www.google.com
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- or even Earth-size objects
way out there, at hundreds of AU, that would be too
faint for us to detect, Sheppard said. It's pretty
amazing when you think about it. It's unlikely,
but it's possible.
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There was a time when you could say: The fact that
Lunar meteorites have not been found on Earth is
prima facie evidence that there are none.
There was a time when you could say: The fact that
Martian meteorites have not been found on Earth is
prima facie evidence that there are none.
Humans
, and around one in a thousand
new falls that are collected is a lunar.
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were no periodocy, there would be as
many bad data points in the last 200 million years
as there are in the 200 million years before that.
Not so. Human Error and Aggressive Tectonics do
the rest.
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is
probably indistinguishable from terrestrial basalt
unless you look real close and who would?
So you are certainly right -- the biggest best clue
would be fusion crust, the fresher the better.
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of such an incredibly
primitive piece of engineering, with your chin resting on
the (unpadded) dash watching the roadway roll in as the
speedometer flirts with the 150 mph mark, all to the
accompaniment of a supercharger scream that would put
a diving Stuka to shame... Well, it's an experience.
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temperatures and many
show signs of repeated meltings. They are
older than the next most early solar system
materials, the chondrules, by 2,000,000
years or so. Two different dating methods
give ages of 4567 my and 4571 my.for CAI's.
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atmosphere, but does not reach the
ground to become a meteorite. While most meteors burn
up and disintegrate, some can explode to create dazzlingly
loud fireballs.
from Space.com
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are
made in space, that's a proof that they can be made
in space... because they were, but it's not likely they
are the product of Acme technology..
No one doubts the excellence of the Acme product,
however. I'm sure many fine life-bearing planets have
been seeded the Acme Way.
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a-biotically but so are common
nucleobases, ready to be assembled.
It's not like getting DNA from space --- it's like
getting a box of pre-fitted ladder rungs so you
can build your own ladder.
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) arise out of their basic physical
properties, fundamental properties like the structure of carbon's
electron states and their characteristic energies as inevitably
as a universe of hydrogen stars and space arise out of a Big
Bang.
The Universe is like some Politics -- The Fix Is In.
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I think people are migrating over to Facebook...
I think it's a little early for the start of
the migration season. I think migration
comes after the winds cool and the
leaves begin to change colors, when
the rivers are lower and easier for the
herda to ford.
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of
thousands of particles blasted off Mercury shows a
small but countable number ending up on Saturn's
moon Titan.
That's one heck of a trip and sounds improbable. But
falling out helps make it happen.
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that the 10-meter asteroid grab is a
Modest Proposal.
Unless, of course, it's an iron...
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and mis-placed. Few human operations are
are so precise. Think about matchng up with
Vesta from hundreds of millions of km away!
The usual standard of accuracy is roughly akin
to shooting the eye out of a one-eyed Jack at
100 miles away. Routine.
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around binary stars. So much
for theory... as usual. Now maybe we can get somebody
to look at alpha Centauri?
Please!
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electrophonic sounds, you are in a
very bad place to be.
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Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:57 AM
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... Yeah, and the destruction
of Sodom! Yeah, that's the ticket. Wow! Lookit them
fireballs!
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Sent
down my stack of unread email
suggests that you already have.
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From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:43
Add another vote
for Best Limerick
to Westlake #3!
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To: anitawestl...@att.net
Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22
The limerick packs laughs anatomical
In space that is quite economical,
But the good ones I've seen
So seldom are clean,
And the clean ones so seldom are comical.
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with lots and lots and lots of articles!
Go crazy, EMan.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Display idea for Riker boxes
Hi
have been kidnapped for ransom, murdered,
and sometimes turned into criminals themselves. Read
all about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_fraud
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From
the same
distance as the height of the visible upper
bulge.)
Too heavy to drag home. I don't even think
we could get it into the 4x4, assuming this not
BLM land, that is...
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it
has now. Ah, yes, scientists calculate... The press release has
spoken.
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speck a few years later and
chow down.
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Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:47 PM
Subject
? It will take more any
Libel Law to stop that. Just sit back and enjoy it. Order
another Martian Cocktail.
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To: meteorite-list
of these issues in
the URL above at Google Books and this excellent summary of
the problem, by David Brin, The Great Silence (free download):
http://www.brin-l.com/downloads/silence.pdf
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and
it is downloadable at:
http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/science_books/astronomy_cosmology/relativity_special_general_and_cosmological.html
And the answer? I won't spoil it, but you can get the
20-foot pole into the 5-foot garage easily, no problemo.
and with room to spare! (p. 63)
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