Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-01 Thread Siju George
On Jan 1, 2008 4:28 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, since you are a hypocrite who won't read web pages, Richard please switch from you demoniac way of reading web pages fetching them with wget and so on as you said and act normal. There are a whole lot of people who are at

[Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Greidanus
Aparently difficult and interesting questions don't get answers until they're posted to a list.. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/DEFANGED which had a name of Open-Hardware.26774DEFANGED-eml]

Re: openldap with dbv4 crash

2008-01-01 Thread Daniel
Vijay Sankar mrta: On December 30, 2007 08:03:09 pm Stuart Henderson wrote: On December 29, 2007 11:23:19 am Daniel wrote: Hi (again, sorry, now with Subject)! Anyone experiencing or experienced segfaults with openldap using the bdb backed? I'm using -current ports tree, and built the

Re: delete deleted data

2008-01-01 Thread Christopher Linn
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:25:02PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 10:25:25AM -0800, Jon wrote: hi I see a lot of programs that are available to clean up the disks for Windows OS. Not wipe a disk but clean up deleted files so they cannot be recovered. Is there

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Greidanus
Paul Greidanus wrote: Aparently difficult and interesting questions don't get answers until they're posted to a list.. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/DEFANGED which had a name of Open-Hardware.26774DEFANGED-eml] And it would have worked better if I included the

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-01 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 09:53:29PM -0500, Okan Demirmen wrote: Is there anything up with newer versions then? Why should it not be brought up to date? i believe license is the issue. Correct. Newer version of fvwm are GPLed.. -- Alas, I am dying beyond my means. -- Oscar

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I'm curious how you can recomend an OS, like gNewSense that only runs on non-free hardware, that has required non-free software to be used in it's creation? How do you do these things? Perhaps I do them the same way. The term non-free hardware is misleading, because the issues that

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-01 Thread Richard Stallman
Here is the real issue, Richard. You go off and endorse OpenSolaris without knowing the facts. You get confronted with them and you change history. Sound familiar? What sounds familiar is the nasty spin you place on a minor confusion. But you have added a new false accusation of

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
Here is the real issue, Richard. You go off and endorse OpenSolaris without knowing the facts. You get confronted with them and you change history. Sound familiar? What sounds familiar is the nasty spin you place on a minor confusion. We are not spinning any facts. Richard,

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Tony Abernethy
Richard Stallman wrote: There are no copiers for hardware and it has no source code. You might visit a foundry. They've been around for rather a long time. Take a look at a dressmaker's pattern ...

Re: openldap with dbv4 crash

2008-01-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/01 13:27, Daniel wrote: there's support in 2.4 but iirc it's not a simple thing to backport. Why should we backport the db4.6 support? We just need to use 2.4. Well, you mentioned one reason why not just upgrade: With openldap-2.4, one can not use the ldbm backend anymore, but

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Adrian Fisher
There are a small number of people that command respect in the IT industry and as far as I know, Richard and Theo are two such people. I am sure that if people like you began to endorse open source hardware more people would move in that direction. I remember reading a quote from Sun about

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread chefren
On 1/1/08 8:42 PM, Paul Greidanus wrote: Aparently difficult and interesting questions don't get answers until they're posted to a list.. I believe your questions were not very interesting for OpenBSD, that is about a code base with absolute freedom, no strings attached. For most OpenBSD

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-01 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 04:24:06PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Here is the real issue, Richard. You go off and endorse OpenSolaris without knowing the facts. You get confronted with them and you change history. Sound familiar? What sounds familiar is the nasty spin you

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread marina
Most of us on this list are happy to see software and hardware that is open source. Might i most respectfully suggest that this is not the best venue to promote this. We agree on a lot of points. Dr Stallman i now see the dogged determination that has made you effective, however i have to

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread chefren
On 1/1/08 10:35 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: As for Intels use of non-free software, I am sorry for them, and I hope that someday they will be able to move to free software. Is this hope reasonable or logical? Totally not. Intel just wants the best software they can afford to get their chips

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread L
Richard Stallman wrote: I'm curious how you can recomend an OS, like gNewSense that only runs on non-free hardware, that has required non-free software to be used in it's creation? How do you do these things? Perhaps I do them the same way. The term non-free hardware is

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Ray Percival
On Jan 1, 2008, at 6:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Stallman i now see the dogged determination that has made you effective, He's not a doctor. In any sense of the word. Honorary degrees don't give you the right to use the title or to be called by it. --- Marina Brown Return-Path:

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread L
Paul Greidanus wrote: Hi Richard, I've been marginally following the discussion on OpenBSD and FSF and of the noise related. Speaking of FSF.. What if I want to start MY OWN foundation that guarantees 7 freedoms, or 2 freedoms according to my personal opinion and philosophy on freedom?

Re: delete deleted data

2008-01-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:14:53PM -0500, Christopher Linn wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:25:02PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 10:25:25AM -0800, Jon wrote: I see a lot of programs that are available to clean up the disks for Windows OS. Not wipe a disk but

Re: delete deleted data

2008-01-01 Thread Marco Peereboom
Still recoverable. I have dealt with pretty badly burnt disks that we recovered data off. Really the grinder is the way to go. On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:14:53PM -0500, Christopher Linn wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:25:02PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 10:25:25AM

k9copy

2008-01-01 Thread Brian
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Re: delete deleted data

2008-01-01 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:27:59PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: Still recoverable. I have dealt with pretty badly burnt disks that we recovered data off. Really the grinder is the way to go. Thermite should do the work too. Hot enough to bring the material out of the ferromagnetic

Re: k9copy

2008-01-01 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:43:01PM -0800, Brian wrote: Anyone in the process of porting over k9copy from the freebsd ports tree? hmm, requires libhal and vamps. vamps only requantizes the mpeg stream. tcrequant from the transcode package can requantize mpeg streams. IIRC, vamps is based on

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Greidanus
Richard Stallman wrote: I'm curious how you can recomend an OS, like gNewSense that only runs on non-free hardware, that has required non-free software to be used in it's creation? How do you do these things? Perhaps I do them the same way. I don't, however, I don't claim to

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 08:27:43PM +, Owain Ainsworth wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 09:53:29PM -0500, Okan Demirmen wrote: Is there anything up with newer versions then? Why should it not be brought up to date? i believe license is the issue. Correct. Newer version of fvwm are

A clue about php5, please?

2008-01-01 Thread STeve Andre'
So I have spent some large portion of today puzzling over getting php5 to work. This is on a i386-current system with packages compiled from the ports tree as of 12/29. Php5 installs just fine, and in fact running the test.php code in a index.php file works if I go to

Re: A clue about php5, please?

2008-01-01 Thread Antti Harri
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, STeve Andre' wrote: So I have spent some large portion of today puzzling over getting php5 to work. This is on a i386-current system with packages compiled from the ports tree as of 12/29. Php5 installs just fine, and in fact running the test.php code in a index.php

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-01 Thread Unix Fan
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: To satisfy my own curiosity, looking at www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_X_window_managers which provides links to 45 window managers for which there are wiki pages, I looked at the licence for each and found that only xmonad, wmii, fluxbox, and blackbox

Re: A clue about php5, please?

2008-01-01 Thread Richard Toohey
On 2/01/2008, at 6:28 PM, Antti Harri wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, STeve Andre' wrote: However I can't use imbedded php like ? require_once('header.php'); ? Use ?php ? so I'm missing something and I haven't found what it is after a lot of looking around. Can someone point me

Re: Help with Seagate STT3401A tape drive

2008-01-01 Thread Richard Toohey
On 28/12/2007, at 12:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. I've finally found some time to try and get a tape drive - Seagate STT3401A (now Certance/Quantum) - working on a Dell SC440. [cut] mt rewind will log this (/var/log/messages): /bsd: wdc_atapi_intr: warning: reading only 255