Re: Slow VPN Performance

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Sideris
I am using the NFS defaults which means, according to the man page at least, that it should go over TCP. Regardless, I think I have a fair idea of what is what happening now. Or at least better than I had before. I will try to tweak things around a bit until I find the right balance between

Re: Slow VPN Performance

2012-10-24 Thread Philip Guenther
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Michael Sideris urg...@gmail.com wrote: I am using the NFS defaults which means, according to the man page at least, that it should go over TCP. Hmm, I don't believe that to be the case. What man page text are you seeing says the default is TCP? Philip

Re: Slow VPN Performance

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Sideris
Actually, scratch that. I was looking at nfs(5) from an old SL 5.7 box I have here which explicitly states: tcpMount the NFS filesystem using the TCP protocol. This is the default protocol. This is not the case anymore though, thanks for bringing that to my attention. On Wed, Oct

cwm(1) and java X gui apps (geo/josm) - keyboard shortcuts ignored

2012-10-24 Thread MERIGHI Marcus
hello folks, I have a problem with geo/josm keyboard shortcuts under cwm(1). fvwm(1) does not show this problem. other apps (e.g. graphics/qiv) do not show the problem under cwm(1). Therefore it appears to me it's a combination of java X gui apps and cwm(1) that eats the keyboard shortcuts.

Re: Slow VPN Performance

2012-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-10-24, Michael Sideris urg...@gmail.com wrote: Also, OpenBSD 5.2 is around the corner and you never know what that might bring. There's a commit from just after 5.2 which is relevant to some packet forwarding setups, which might be of interest..

Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-10-22, ch...@bennettconstruction.us ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote: I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I did not have Java built But it failed to reboot Note that this method is likely to have problems going from 5.1 to 5.2 on i386 due to ld.so

Here are the first artist confirmations

2012-10-24 Thread Salsafestival Switzerland
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Re: How to delete this partial package?

2012-10-24 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: As far as removing the package, since it's just trying to checksum the file before removing it, pkg_delete -c will take care of that... That's pkg_delete -q -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: GPU driver for Raspberry Pi open sourced

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221 Well, they are lying to everyone. Their open source is nothing but a layer of code which calls into a closed source back-end.

Re: GPU driver for Raspberry Pi open sourced

2012-10-24 Thread Peter Hessler
No, it was not open sourced. All they did was release some userland wrappers around their api. No, this does not make it closer to OpenBSD being ported to this device. Nothing has changed. On 2012 Oct 24 (Wed) at 08:56:29 -0700 (-0700), Gene wrote: :http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221 :

Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, Just saw a few questions and patch for NAT64 on misc and tech@ and I am really questioning the reason to be fore NAT64 and why anyone in their right mind would actually want to use this? NAT always makes connectivity less efficient anyway and was really designed to alleviated the lack

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net writes: Just saw a few questions and patch for NAT64 on misc and tech@ and I am really questioning the reason to be fore NAT64 and why anyone in their right mind would actually want to use this? The main reason why NAT64 was developed is that in some

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
One use case: ISP who wants to provide IPv4+IPv6 to customers, but does not have enough IPv4 addresses for everyone, so has to NAT anyway, and wants to simplify the operation of its edge network by running only one protocol. Quite popular with 3GPP folks since they have zillions of customers

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Kurt Mosiejczuk
Daniel Ouellet wrote: Anyone have any possible explication that would actually justify the use of NAT64 that I obviously overlooked? The one use I could think of us to make your internal network independent of your ISP. Right now, if you change ISPs, your network prefix changes and your

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Denis Fondras
Hello, Le 24/10/2012 18:43, Daniel Ouellet a écrit : Hi, Just saw a few questions and patch for NAT64 on misc and tech@ and I am really questioning the reason to be fore NAT64 and why anyone in their right mind would actually want to use this? What is your proposal to allow a v6-only

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
Anyone have any possible explication that would actually justify the use of NAT64 that I obviously overlooked? The one use I could think of us to make your internal network independent of your ISP. Right now, if you change ISPs, your network prefix changes and your whole network has

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 14:25, Kurt Mosiejczuk a écrit : The one use I could think of us to make your internal network independent of your ISP. Right now, if you change ISPs, your network prefix changes and your whole network has to be renumbered. I read about it in the following article earlier this

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: Le 2012-10-24 14:25, Kurt Mosiejczuk a écrit : The one use I could think of us to make your internal network independent of your ISP. Right now, if you change ISPs, your network prefix changes and your whole network has to be

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: Le 2012-10-24 14:25, Kurt Mosiejczuk a écrit : The one use I could think of us to make your internal network independent of your ISP. Right now, if you change ISPs, your network prefix changes and your whole network has to

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:43:12PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Hi, Just saw a few questions and patch for NAT64 on misc and tech@ and I am really questioning the reason to be fore NAT64 and why anyone in their right mind would actually want to use this? To reach v4 only hosts, d'oh? IN

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 14:54, Claudio Jeker a écrit : But less PI space. Since some evangelists belive in the superiority of IPv6 and try everything to make it impossible to get routable PI space. At the moment IPv6 is a step backwards in all regards. Wait wait wait... what RIR doesn't take multihoming

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: What you need to multihome is either BGP or NAT. Exactly as in IPv4. Nothing has changed. The only new thing with IPv6 is that there's more bits. Oh? I have two internet connections plugged directly into my desktop box at home,

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2012-10-24 Thread Antonio Medina M.
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Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: What you need to multihome is either BGP or NAT. Exactly as in IPv4. Nothing has changed. The only new thing with IPv6 is that there's more bits. Oh? I have two internet connections plugged directly into my desktop box at

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Peter Hessler
You have IPv4 only applications, that need to talk with the IPv6 internet. On 2012 Oct 24 (Wed) at 12:43:12 -0400 (-0400), Daniel Ouellet wrote: :Hi, : :Just saw a few questions and patch for NAT64 on misc and tech@ and I :am really questioning the reason to be fore NAT64 and why anyone in

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
End hosts need to get smarter, instead of the network adapting to their stupidity. But I'm not holding my breath. No, what you are really saying is that non-transient network traffic (long lived TCP sessions) need to have the applications talking them -- and obviously the protocols also --

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Barbier, Jason
Well expanding on the address space and numbering issue, that would be a valid use for NAT but I honestly think it would be better to actually try and fix that before trying to put a hack over the top of it. In theory you could do it with routing tables but I could be retarded also so. On Wed,

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:25:07PM -0400, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote: I read about it in the following article earlier this year. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/31/ipv6_sucks_for_smes/ Everybody except a few zealots have accepted the fact that NAT will exist in ipv6 just like v4. The

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 15:29, Barbier, Jason a écrit : Well expanding on the address space and numbering issue, that would be a valid use for NAT but I honestly think it would be better to actually try and fix that before trying to put a hack over the top of it. I'm going to wait a long time for a

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:21:33PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: What happens if one of your links goes down for a day? Do all your ssh sessions to everywhere in the world stay up? The internet has non-transient traffic, too. No, I will have to re-start some of them. This is something that

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Barbier, Jason
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Simon Perreault sperrea...@openbsd.orgwrote: Le 2012-10-24 15:29, Barbier, Jason a écrit : Well expanding on the address space and numbering issue, that would be a valid use for NAT but I honestly think it would be better to actually try and fix that

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:28:38PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Basically to make IPv6 pseudo-multihoming work like IPv4 multihoming, ssh and sshd need to be modified that they can handle a network break, and re-connect using another address. I fail to see what any of this has to do with

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 15:38, Barbier, Jason a écrit : I'm going to wait a long time for a firmware update that makes my IPv4-only printer speak IPv6. Well man there are several stable implementations of 4 to 6 and 6 to 4 bridges. I don't know what kind of bridges you're talking about, but I'll

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:21:33PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: What happens if one of your links goes down for a day? Do all your ssh sessions to everywhere in the world stay up? The internet has non-transient traffic, too. No, I will have to re-start some of them. This is

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:28:38PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Basically to make IPv6 pseudo-multihoming work like IPv4 multihoming, ssh and sshd need to be modified that they can handle a network break, and re-connect using another address. I fail to see what any of this has to do with

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:43:01PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Luckily that is not a problem in ipv4. I can get IPv6 PI and multihome with v6 as it is just like I used to be able with v4; now there is no more v4 PI at RIPE. But what does this have to do with the on-wire protocol again? Do

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
As someone working for a 'Carrier' vendor - I can tell you straight up that LSN(Large Scale) or CGN(Carrier Grad) NAT are big sell points (i.e customers are asking for them). Personally out of the various RFC's and schemes i've had the displeasure of perusing for V6 to V4 access NAT64 to me

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 03:42:52PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: | Le 2012-10-24 15:38, Barbier, Jason a ?crit : | I'm going to wait a long time for a firmware update that makes my | IPv4-only printer speak IPv6. Even if it did, would you trust that stack on the global (v6) internet ? | Well man

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 15:59, Paul de Weerd a écrit : On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 03:42:52PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: | Le 2012-10-24 15:38, Barbier, Jason a ?crit : | I'm going to wait a long time for a firmware update that makes my | IPv4-only printer speak IPv6. Even if it did, would you trust that

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 03:10:29PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: Le 2012-10-24 14:54, Claudio Jeker a écrit : But less PI space. Since some evangelists belive in the superiority of IPv6 and try everything to make it impossible to get routable PI space. At the moment IPv6 is a step backwards in

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:12:33PM +0300, Jussi Peltola wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: What you need to multihome is either BGP or NAT. Exactly as in IPv4. Nothing has changed. The only new thing with IPv6 is that there's more bits. Oh? I have

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 16:30, Claudio Jeker a écrit : With IPv6 multihoming should work trivially: plug two access lines into a switch, get RAs from both, get addresses from both on your end-host, and your end-host needs to select the proper route for each source address. Again, no NAT or BGP.

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-10-24 15:12, Jussi Peltola a écrit : On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: What you need to multihome is either BGP or NAT. Exactly as in IPv4. Nothing has changed. The only new thing with IPv6 is that there's more bits. Oh? I have two internet connections

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:30:21PM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:12:33PM +0300, Jussi Peltola wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:43:14PM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: What you need to multihome is either BGP or NAT. Exactly as in IPv4. Nothing has changed. The only

Re: http/https timeouts with OpenBSD based firewall

2012-10-24 Thread Marcin
On 23 October 2012 12:53, Joel Sing j...@sing.id.au wrote: Unfortunately we have no idea what firewall rules you have configured, however I'm going to take random guess and say that you're using a scrub rule with 'reassemble tcp' - if this is the case you'll probably find that some TCP

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-10-24, Simon Perreault sperrea...@openbsd.org wrote: One use case: ISP who wants to provide IPv4+IPv6 to customers, but does not have enough IPv4 addresses for everyone, so has to NAT anyway, and wants to simplify the operation of its edge network by running only one protocol.

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-10-24, Kurt Mosiejczuk kurt-openbsd-m...@se.rit.edu wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: Anyone have any possible explication that would actually justify the use of NAT64 that I obviously overlooked? The one use I could think of us to make your internal network independent of your ISP.

Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
re-reading this original mail... you're saying NAT64 (which is a form of protocol translation used in conjunction with special DNS servers, so v6-only hosts can reach v4 hosts if they are accessed by name)... but I'm not sure if this matches what the rest of the mail is talking about, which seems

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2012-10-24 Thread athena
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Re: Why anyone in their right mind would like to use NAT64

2012-10-24 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
Daniel, I think you're confused between NAT66 and NAT64. [0] T-Mobile USA optionally supports IPv6 connectivity in some limited number of new phones (Galaxy Nexus etc) [1], and when the IPv6 option is manually activated by the user^w beta-tester on their phone, then no IPv4 support is provided,