theo wrote:
> What do thsi have to with OpenBSD?
Drat. Someone discovered The Homoheterothropic Society for the
Intermezzanic! Mesupposes we'll have to disband.
--zeur.
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Friggin' Machines!
theo wrote:
> What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Alright, let's talk about leadership. Do you folks think Linus is a
better leader than Theo here?
There, OpenBSD angle restored.
(Yes, medoes wish that discussion about lunix et al. be toned down. Even
so, mealso wishes that the
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
zap wrote:
>
>
>
> On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
> >
> >
> Probably it has nothing to do with OpenBSD, since they are no longer
> talking about wine for OpenBSD.Â
>
> But yeah, I for
What do thsi have to with OpenBSD?
zap wrote:
> Well just to correct myself, seeming libre. It isn't actually that much
> more libre than OpenBSD.
>
>
> On 04/14/2020 05:54 PM, zap wrote:
> >
> > On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> What the hell does this have to do with
g to do with OpenBSD, since they are no longer
> talking about wine for OpenBSD.
>
> But yeah, I for one am glad you take up the K.I.S.S way of doing things.
>
> Linux is a beast that is going to crush itself someday. Not due to being
> libre, but because its so overengineered that its complexity will kill it.
On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
>
>
Probably it has nothing to do with OpenBSD, since they are no longer
talking about wine for OpenBSD.
But yeah, I for one am glad you take up the K.I.S.S way of doing things.
Linux i
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:38:00 +0300
> Consus wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> > > exhibited incompatibilities with
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:38:00 +0300
Consus wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> > exhibited incompatibilities with basically all historical
> > interfaces, and had introduced a variety of
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS
What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
i...@aulix.com wrote:
> There are IMHO a few of good systemD free Linux distros:
> Devuan - Debian without systemD
> Parabola - Arch without systemD
>
> Alpine unfortunately lacks verification of checksums of earlier installed
> files.
>
>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 04:15:20PM -0400, Daniel Jakots wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:05:56 -0400, Raul Miller
> wrote:
>
> > Got any good docs on how to debug (or monitor) D-Bus issues?
>
> You're asking help to debug D-Bus on an OpenBSD mailing list? Why don't
> you bring this sooo
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:05:56 -0400, Raul Miller
wrote:
> Got any good docs on how to debug (or monitor) D-Bus issues?
You're asking help to debug D-Bus on an OpenBSD mailing list? Why don't
you bring this sooo interesting discussion off-list?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 04:05:56PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:38 PM Consus wrote:
> > It is modular to a degree, but separating services requires a bit of
> > work so yeah, in this area systemd sucks. Documentation is pretty good
> > though. I don't like the complexity
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:38 PM Consus wrote:
> It is modular to a degree, but separating services requires a bit of
> work so yeah, in this area systemd sucks. Documentation is pretty good
> though. I don't like the complexity of the thing, but I've never been
> stuck because there is not
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning, then
> > Debian until the forced
There are IMHO a few of good systemD free Linux distros:
Devuan - Debian without systemD
Parabola - Arch without systemD
Alpine unfortunately lacks verification of checksums of earlier installed files.
Like wajig integrity (debsums) in Devuan.
More info about verification:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning, then
> Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the crap
> being
Le 14/04/2020 à 17:10, Oddmund G. a écrit :
Linux is doomed. Closer 'integration' of systemd, pulseaudio, wayland
Wayland isn't that bad. It solves many things by reducing the display
complexity and is much faster than X.Org. The real problem is by being
simple; many compositors (~= window
Amen to all that. Arch Linux worked for me for many years, but the
Arch philosophy of adopting bleeding edge software has become
increasingly difficult to deal with, given the corporate takeover of
Linux. Started out with BSD in the early days, moved to Slackware,
Debian, and then Arch. Finally
Le 14/04/2020 à 15:49, Ottavio Caruso a écrit :
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:06, Oddmund G. wrote:
Since the ongoing corporate takeover of GNU+Linux,
GNU, whether we like them or not, have not been and will not be taken
over by "corporate", as long as Stallman is alive.
As for Linux, it is not
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:06, Oddmund G. wrote:
> Since the ongoing corporate takeover of GNU+Linux,
GNU, whether we like them or not, have not been and will not be taken
over by "corporate", as long as Stallman is alive.
As for Linux, it is not an OS but just a kernel. The only distros that
Le 11/04/2020 à 14:25, Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen a écrit
11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov :
Wine for OpenBSD?
Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo it. Same with
beer, liquors as always.
All the best,
—
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 08:24, slackwaree wrote:
>
> You don't want wine anyway. That is the shining example of badly written
> software which sucked 15 years ago the same way it does today. T
Provided Wine is now broken on most modern OSes that only ship with
64-bit binaries, there are tons of
oject who don't want to let it go...
>
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 12:15 PM, Nikita Stepanov
> wrote:
>
> > Wine for OpenBSD?
>
>
> All you could get out of it is to run basic apps like notepad or calc even
> tho
;project who don't want to let it go...
>
>
>
>‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>On Saturday, April 11, 2020 12:15 PM, Nikita Stepanov
> wrote:
>
>> Wine for OpenBSD?
Nah... Some people (like me) doesn't want to have windows at all.
Sadly, karma is a b**ch and now I got a Win VM :)
Ye
, Nikita Stepanov
wrote:
> Wine for OpenBSD?
On 2020-04-11, Nikita Stepanov wrote:
> Wine for OpenBSD?
At hackathons, we typically ask the French developers to pick out
a wine from the menu, but they are pretty reluctant to take on this
responsibility.
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г., Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen
> :
>
>
>
> � 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov
> :
>
> � Wine for OpenBSD?
>
>
>
> Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo
> it. Same with beer, liquors as alwa
I mean�
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
18:30, 11 апреля 2020 г., Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen
:
� 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov
:
� Wine for OpenBSD?
Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo
it. Same with beer, liquors
> 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov :
>
> Wine for OpenBSD?
>
Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo it. Same with
beer, liquors as always.
All the best,
—
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementati
Am Sa., 11. Apr. 2020 um 13:19 Uhr schrieb Nikita Stepanov
:
> Wine for OpenBSD?
Your patch?
Wine for OpenBSD?
Hello,
Is wine available for OpenBSD ?
I could'nt find it in packages nor ports.
If not available, it might be possible to run it under linux emulate ?
Thanks for experience.
Regards
On 05-02-11 18:58, Jean-Francois wrote:
Hello,
Is wine available for OpenBSD ?
I could'nt find it in packages nor ports.
Do a bit more looking...
If not available, it might be possible to run it under linux emulate ?
ports: emulators/wine http://openports.se/emulators/wine
Robert
Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com writes:
Is wine available for OpenBSD ?
I could'nt find it in packages nor ports.
My ports tree (on -current) has /usr/ports/emulators/wine/, but the
Makefile says at the top
# XXX This port is not finished and does not work.
So no package built for now
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 02:28:58PM -0600, Austin English wrote:
I've gotten around some of the issues, but am looking for the 'right'
way to do so, rather than hacks.
Check the ports/misc archives. There was an effort on porting wine,
but it did not get very far. If I remember correctly,
Howdy,
A few people have asked recently about Wine on OpenBSD on the wine
mailing lists. I decided to give it a spin, since the version in ports
is nearly 10 years old (!). I've made a bit of progress, but seems
there are multiple bugs that need fixing (on both ends).
What I've done so far
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Austin English wrote:
Any advice/help appreciated.
run windows in a virtual machine. it may be slow, but it's a lot
faster than trying to make wine work, especially if you can't get
around the library issues you mentioned.
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jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Austin English wrote:
Any advice/help appreciated.
run windows in a virtual machine. it may be slow, but it's a lot
faster than trying to make wine work, especially if you
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 02:28:58PM -0600, Austin English wrote:
I've gotten around some of the issues, but am looking for the 'right'
way to do so, rather than hacks.
have you looked in the misc@/ports@ archives? that is the 'right'
thing to do before asking questions.
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