Re: Installation troubles
On 3/11/2007, at 9:59 AM, Chris Zakelj wrote: Kenneth R Westerback wrote: ASC/ASCQ 0x11/0x06 would appear to mean CIRC Unrecovered Error. These values are listed in /usr/src/sys/scsi_base.c, line 1207 and following. The error text is left out of install kernels to save space. Kenneth obviously followed my thought processes and posted more or less exactly what I found ... That explains the *what* (sort of), but not the why. Given that this occurs on four different systems, with four different drives, with upwards of eight different IDE cables (both 40- and 80- conductor), and that it's across multiple releases and multiple CD's, there has to be something I'm doing wrong. I'm just at a loss as to what. ... but it doesn't really give you any pointers. I cannot see what what you are doing wrong that would affect the installation - have you tried following the instructions TO THE LETTER? From your previous post, it would seem not ... (not saying that you are doing anything wrong, just something different.) FROM PREVIOUS POST: Initial label editor (enter '?' for help at any prompt) n a mount point: [none] / p device: /dev/rwd0c type: ESDI disk: ESDI/IDE disk label: WDC WD800JD-00LS bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 9729 total sectors: 156301488 free sectors: 151027065 rpm: 3600 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 4208967 63 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # / b: 1060290 4209030swap c:1563014880 unused 0 0 END If you follow the instructions to the letter (obviously you'll end up with a rather large home partition ...) do you get the same behaviour? I cannot see how HD partitioning would affect CD reading; but assume nothing until proven. Do you know what these messages below (from your dmesg) actually mean - would they have any impact (unlikely, I know, but worth checking?) Anything similar in the other machines that fail? What brands / BIOSes / CDs / DVDs on the other machines - anything in common there? FROM PREVIOUS POST: pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) pciide1 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 vendor SiS, unknown product 0x0183 rev 0x01: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native -PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI END Sorry if this is not particularly useful - but I'm trying to figure out what is is that you do differently to me - I have have installed 3.8 onwards on i386 from 475 Mhz to 2.x Ghz via CD successfully most of the time (one bogus CD and one burner - see below - that didn't like OpenBSD.) Seems unlikely that you'd be unlucky enough to have 5 bogus CDs or BIOSes, or CD/DVD drives (I did have one DVD burner that OpenBSD did not like - sporadic errors *like* yours but too long ago for me to say for certain - but Windows seems happy enough with the drive.) Or maybe you have really upset someone somewhere? 8-) Can you borrow a CD / DVD burner from someone else? I'll leave it at that - I would try following the instructions to the letter just to eliminate that; then you'll have to try other CD/DVD drives. The more I think about it, the more my brain is telling me that the issue I had with the DVD burner gave me the same behaviour as you are reporting - boots OK, initial installation OK, fails on installation of sets. But might be a false memory from thinking about it too long! I bought a Pioneer DVD (more expensive that the Dick Smith's one) and it did not work with OpenBSD - but it was OK with Windows. Got the cheaper drive, and all was well. But can you really be that unlucky to get *FIVE* CD/DVD drives that don't work?
Re: Installation troubles
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 06:50:59PM -0400, Chris Zakelj wrote: Picked up a USB to serial converter on the way home from the office. Here's a complete installation attempt using the 4.2 i386 CD: Let's install the sets! Location of sets? (cd disk ftp http or 'done') [cd] Available CD-ROMs are: cd0. Which one contains the install media? (or 'done') [cd0] cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 SENSE KEY: Media Error ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x11 ASCQ 0x06 cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 SENSE KEY: Media Error ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x11 ASCQ 0x06 cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 SENSE KEY: Media Error ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x11 ASCQ 0x06 No filesystems found on cd0 Location of sets? (cd disk ftp http or 'done') [cd] ASC/ASCQ 0x11/0x06 would appear to mean CIRC Unrecovered Error. These values are listed in /usr/src/sys/scsi_base.c, line 1207 and following. The error text is left out of install kernels to save space. Some random Googling gave me A CIRC unrecovered data error is defined as a block for which the CIRC based error correction algorithm was unsuccessful on all read attempts up to the read retry count. Layered error correction was not used. at http://www.t10.org/ftp/x3t9.2/document.89/89-108r0.txt Obvously our read retry count is 3 in this case. I don' know if the other OS's you tried have larger values and eventually succeeded, or if they just didn't happen to hit the same block. But it looks like an inability to read a particular block from that CD on that system. Ken
Re: Installation troubles
Kenneth R Westerback wrote: ASC/ASCQ 0x11/0x06 would appear to mean CIRC Unrecovered Error. These values are listed in /usr/src/sys/scsi_base.c, line 1207 and following. The error text is left out of install kernels to save space. Some random Googling gave me A CIRC unrecovered data error is defined as a block for which the CIRC based error correction algorithm was unsuccessful on all read attempts up to the read retry count. Layered error correction was not used. at http://www.t10.org/ftp/x3t9.2/document.89/89-108r0.txt Obvously our read retry count is 3 in this case. I don' know if the other OS's you tried have larger values and eventually succeeded, or if they just didn't happen to hit the same block. But it looks like an inability to read a particular block from that CD on that system. Ken That explains the *what* (sort of), but not the why. Given that this occurs on four different systems, with four different drives, with upwards of eight different IDE cables (both 40- and 80-conductor), and that it's across multiple releases and multiple CD's, there has to be something I'm doing wrong. I'm just at a loss as to what.
Re: Installation troubles
Asking the obvious questions to eliminate them first ... 1. Official CDs? 2. Can you read/copy the CD on *any* machines / *any* OS? 3. Specifically - if you FTP install OpenBSD , can you then mount / copy / do anything with the CD? 4. dmesg(s) Personal experience ... I have installed 3.8 to 4.2 from CDs on machines from P3 500 to Pentium D 2.something via Celeron 900Mhz (Dells, HPs, Compaqs, desktops and laptops) - only real issue was a bogus 4.1 CD than no machine would touch. I had a CD error with 4.2 today (same CD that I have done 3 installs with already!) when extracting Xenocara - so I umounted, ejected, took CD out, waggled it around while saying magic incantation, remounted, and tried again and it worked (well, no errors reported.) HTH, YMMV, IANAD, etc. On 1/11/2007, at 4:55 PM, Chris Zakelj wrote: Evening... I'm trying install my fresh 4.2 CDs on a system that is destined to become a samba server and build machine for CF-based firewalls. Only I'm having a problem (obviously). This is the third release where I'm having this issue, but previously I just chalked it up to old, cranky CDROM drives, and went with FTP. But given this is all new hardware, time to figure out what's really happening. This system is fresh-built amd64 (but will be running/compiling all i386 binaries to avoid having to cross-compile Soekris builds), IDE DVD-ROM drive, SATA hard drive. Boots from CD, then gets through partitioning, labelling, and formatting the drive just fine. Network config sails through, until I finally hit Let's install the sets!. I hit enter for the defaults 'cd' and 'cd0', at which point I get the following: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 SENSE KEY: Media Error ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x11 ASCQ 0x06 This message repeats three times, at which point the installer gives up, reports 'No filesystems found on cd0', and asks again where to find the sets. For what it's worth, this happens on four different i386 machines of various vintage (from a 16 year old 486 up through tonight's Sempron build), with official CD releases from 4.0 onwards. I'm guessing I'm missing something obvious, but Google and MARC didn't turn up anything, so cluesticks are welcome.
Re: Installation troubles
Richard Toohey wrote: Asking the obvious questions to eliminate them first ... 1. Official CDs? 2. Can you read/copy the CD on *any* machines / *any* OS? 3. Specifically - if you FTP install OpenBSD , can you then mount / copy / do anything with the CD? 4. dmesg(s) Personal experience ... I have installed 3.8 to 4.2 from CDs on machines from P3 500 to Pentium D 2.something via Celeron 900Mhz (Dells, HPs, Compaqs, desktops and laptops) - only real issue was a bogus 4.1 CD than no machine would touch. I had a CD error with 4.2 today (same CD that I have done 3 installs with already!) when extracting Xenocara - so I umounted, ejected, took CD out, waggled it around while saying magic incantation, remounted, and tried again and it worked (well, no errors reported.) HTH, YMMV, IANAD, etc. On 1/11/2007, at 4:55 PM, Chris Zakelj wrote: Evening... I'm trying install my fresh 4.2 CDs on a system that is destined to become a samba server and build machine for CF-based firewalls. Only I'm having a problem (obviously). This is the third release where I'm having this issue, but previously I just chalked it up to old, cranky CDROM drives, and went with FTP. But given this is all new hardware, time to figure out what's really happening. This system is fresh-built amd64 (but will be running/compiling all i386 binaries to avoid having to cross-compile Soekris builds), IDE DVD-ROM drive, SATA hard drive. Boots from CD, then gets through partitioning, labelling, and formatting the drive just fine. Network config sails through, until I finally hit Let's install the sets!. I hit enter for the defaults 'cd' and 'cd0', at which point I get the following: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 SENSE KEY: Media Error ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x11 ASCQ 0x06 This message repeats three times, at which point the installer gives up, reports 'No filesystems found on cd0', and asks again where to find the sets. For what it's worth, this happens on four different i386 machines of various vintage (from a 16 year old 486 up through tonight's Sempron build), with official CD releases from 4.0 onwards. I'm guessing I'm missing something obvious, but Google and MARC didn't turn up anything, so cluesticks are welcome. 1. Yes, they're official CDs straight from austin@ 2. Yes, both my WinXP laptop and WinXP-64 desktop can read/copy 3. I vaguely recall installing packages from one of them after doing the FTP install, but I'll try again later tonight. 4. I'd love to, but except for the 486 (stuffed in a closet), they don't have serial ports to redirect to.
Re: Installation troubles
Chris Zakelj wrote: Richard Toohey wrote: Asking the obvious questions to eliminate them first ... 1. Official CDs? 2. Can you read/copy the CD on *any* machines / *any* OS? 3. Specifically - if you FTP install OpenBSD , can you then mount / copy / do anything with the CD? 4. dmesg(s) Personal experience ... I have installed 3.8 to 4.2 from CDs on machines from P3 500 to Pentium D 2.something via Celeron 900Mhz (Dells, HPs, Compaqs, desktops and laptops) - only real issue was a bogus 4.1 CD than no machine would touch. I had a CD error with 4.2 today (same CD that I have done 3 installs with already!) when extracting Xenocara - so I umounted, ejected, took CD out, waggled it around while saying magic incantation, remounted, and tried again and it worked (well, no errors reported.) HTH, YMMV, IANAD, etc. On 1/11/2007, at 4:55 PM, Chris Zakelj wrote: Evening... I'm trying install my fresh 4.2 CDs on a system that is destined to become a samba server and build machine for CF-based firewalls. Only I'm having a problem (obviously). This is the third release where I'm having this issue, but previously I just chalked it up to old, cranky CDROM drives, and went with FTP. But given this is all new hardware, time to figure out what's really happening. This system is fresh-built amd64 (but will be running/compiling all i386 binaries to avoid having to cross-compile Soekris builds), IDE DVD-ROM drive, SATA hard drive. Boots from CD, then gets through partitioning, labelling, and formatting the drive just fine. Network config sails through, until I finally hit Let's install the sets!. I hit enter for the defaults 'cd' and 'cd0', at which point I get the following: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 SENSE KEY: Media Error ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x11 ASCQ 0x06 This message repeats three times, at which point the installer gives up, reports 'No filesystems found on cd0', and asks again where to find the sets. For what it's worth, this happens on four different i386 machines of various vintage (from a 16 year old 486 up through tonight's Sempron build), with official CD releases from 4.0 onwards. I'm guessing I'm missing something obvious, but Google and MARC didn't turn up anything, so cluesticks are welcome. 1. Yes, they're official CDs straight from austin@ 2. Yes, both my WinXP laptop and WinXP-64 desktop can read/copy 3. I vaguely recall installing packages from one of them after doing the FTP install, but I'll try again later tonight. 4. I'd love to, but except for the 486 (stuffed in a closet), they don't have serial ports to redirect to. Picked up a USB to serial converter on the way home from the office. Here's a complete installation attempt using the 4.2 i386 CD: OpenBSD/i386 CDBOOT 2.01 boot booting cd0a:/4.2/i386/bsd.rd: 4733076+742936 [52+174448+160579]=0x58ad08 entry point at 0x200120* Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.2 (RAMDISK_CD) #468: Tue Aug 28 11:02:17 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 128KB L2 cache) 1.81 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3 cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required real mem = 502820864 (479MB) avail mem = 480124928 (457MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/16/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfc7c0 (45 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 080012 date 07/16/2007 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 3.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf57e0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found: ICU vendor 0x1039 product 0x0965 pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing pcibios0: PCI bus #4 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 761 PCI rev 0x02 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 86C202 VGA rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SiS 6330 VGA rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 965 ISA rev 0x48 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x01: 5597/5598: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SONY, DVD-ROM DDU1615, GYS4 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) SiS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 5, version 1.0, legacy support