A word of thanks to you Horse for keeping this group going and the time
taken to ensure a conducive environment for the free flowing dynamic
discussions. I
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net wrote:
Hi John
JB has resigned from the list as he stated, along with the
Arlo, succintly put, and your three paragraphs accurately captures our
collective and total disdain for an approach and worldview which is
inherently arrogant and civilisationally hegemonic. Defintely not the way to
go. Best Regards, Khoo.
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Hi Steve,
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Steven Peterson
peterson.st...@gmail.comwrote:
Step 1: Read ZAMM and get excited about Quality
Step 2: Read Lila and get confused about Quality but keep the sense
that something really exciting is going on.
Step 3: Come to moq.org and get further
.
A decade on MD seems a long time, but nothing if seen across thousands and
thousands of lifetimes.
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by the clash of the rhetorical swords.
You stay keen and sharp by your own vigilance for the real and good. This
state of mind does not come in the absence of opponents and detractors who
distract by imposing themselves on you.
Thats all they do and want to do.
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Hi Adrie,
Thanks for the link. Hawking is always good for the soul. Here is a link on
negative energy:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/negativeenergy/negativeenergy.htm
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
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such
that they are not dominated by SOM, but where other intellectual
patterns have taken hold.
Thank you.
Khoo Hock Aun
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
Nah. Read that post again. Khoo can't stand the thought that the
Intellectual Level is SOM because he wants to think
and the other is unbounded creativity.
One is vicarious experience and the other direct experience.
One resides in the intellectual level and the other transcends it.
One is an explanation for Reality and the other is Reality.
I am afraid that is all I have time for, for now.
Rgds
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to attack each other
personally, the negative patterns replicate with each post and there will be
no end to the melee.
I suppose we can begin by all agreeing that because the other guy did it
is not a justification for ad hominen attacks and the like. Cut out the rot
at the root.
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The Metaphysics of the Shoe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FAPLMLeSDofeature=player_embedded
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:30 PM, David Thomas
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On 7/31/10 9:13 AM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't see any difference between the way a Westerner
[Dave]
Even though shoes don't make the Buddha, I'm pretty sure that the Dali Lama
prancing around in Lady GaGa shoes would break up the sessen:-)
Khoo:
Now why does Tim Curry and the Rocky Horror Picture Show come to mind ?
Transcendantal Transylvannia ! Lets do the time warp again
the difference.
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. Samsara is
the wheel of rebirth, the 31 planes of existence where all interdependent
origination takes place, where all patterns form, from the inorganic,
biological, social to the intellectual levels (in Pirsigian terms) and
dissolve again.
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!
There is a gem of a piece on Ruddy at
http://www.f.waseda.jp/buda/texts/ballad.html. Enjoy!
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:38 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hello Khoo,
I do not understand why Bo says such things. I think/hope/believe/feel the
MoQ a bridge between
in a world they all make up for me : )
Seriously,
If we all get caught in a pissing competition
about who gets the best word in
then all we get is a lot of urine in the air !
Afraid so and best regards
Khoo Hock Aun
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:19 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Greetings Khoo
contest you think...
On Jan 24, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Khoo Hock Aun wrote:
Hi Marsha,
There is a typo there which Mark did not intend. It should actually read:
We are what we think
All that we are arises with our thoughts...
With our thoughts we make
However,
Its not really important
not have built the necessary
instruments for a proper check and balance.
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, David Thomas
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Mary,
Can you guess where this is going? :)
Yes, absolutely. I read your other post to Khoo already
Bo, the Boddhisatva,
Tell us, how do you envisage such a western buddhism and how would it
work ? How different is it from its Eastern cousin.
Now that you have come out and suggested it, we would like to hear it from
you. Please enlighten us.
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The first step down
Andre
I was just wondering if China had demanded royalties for all the
intellectual property rights to gunpowder, ice-cream, spaghetti and other
what not that Marco Polo took from China and introduced to the West, how
much would that amount to now ?
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Khoo Hock Aun
On Sun, Jan 31
Hi Dave,
*Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?*
KHA previously said:
The focus was on the individual owning his innovations and
inventions and the idea of copyright from music to art and literature;
all
works of the intellect; overtherwise known as intellectual property.
Dave
Khoo on 1 Feb:
Bo, the Boddhisatva,
Bo replied on 2 Feb:
Thanks for the new rank but too long hours and no pay ;-)
Khoo:
But that is the most exalted position an Eastern Buddhist may attain; plus
since you have now made a breakthrough for the West, you surely have the
adulation of your many
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over different things. And all argumentation over what is
meant in the passages of ZAMM or LILA is such a expenditure of energy.
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Hi Bo,
A possible relationship between MoQ and Buddhism
. When you are fresh
and ready, come back with the answers, especially the ones from my first
post.
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egocentric society conceals an deep emptiness, then the West deserves
compassion from Buddhists, not scorn.
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liberation: “The true, profound, essential secret is to enter into the
supreme state of equilibrium in which there is no good or bad, acceptance or
rejection, passion or aggression”.
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!
Your constant and continued disputation displays you live in the
past entangled by static dogma
and therefore unable to progress forward.
I still await your answers on the other thread on Bo's Western Buddhism.
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Hi John,
Here's a couple of versions and the lyrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AIRBpW1drE
http://www.allmusicals.com/lyrics/jesuschristsuperstar/superstar.htm
VOICE OF JUDAS
Every time I look at you I don't understand
Why you let the things you did get so out of hand.
You'd have managed
hope this really clears it up for you, Platt.
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Platt,
Understanding the MOQ better than anyone else does not make
it any more right for getting on a high horse either.
Rgds,
Khoo
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Hey Andre,
This screed is all well and good, but you have failed to show that you
understand the
wrote of the
MOQ in Lila. Do you really think so ? I really want to know.
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of the Zen attitude,
the Middle Way: embracing contradictions, making a synthesis of them,
achieving balance.”
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Platt,
Platt to Andre:
What the majority believe is hardly the test of truth, and an author may
be blind to his mistakes. I don't always agree with Bo, but on the advice
of Pirsig himself I look for contrarians who, like the brujo, are actively
pursuing a Dynamic goal. Bo fits the bill.
of your questions and my questions to you of
them were
meant for Bo to answer. So we will wait for that.
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quote perhaps: “To obtain satori, one must let go of the ego. To
receive everything, one must open one's hands and give.”
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, the mainstream from my post on this thread about hippies. My
question to you actually referred to the MOQ. Where do you see the centre of
the MOQ to be. Is your position to the left or right of it ? As you see it.
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him to his destination. Having
arrived, all choices are therefore rather irrelevant.
Platt:
I'm all ears. Maybe to begin we can resolve this contradiction: We're at
once separate but never apart.
Khoo:
I am sorry, but where does this appear in either ZAMM or LILA ?
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explanation, it's not
important. Or rather, the seeming paradox is solved by acknowledging it
as perhaps interesting to logicians but essentially specious.
Thanks again,
Platt
On 23 Feb 2010 at 19:11, Khoo Hock Aun wrote:
Hi Platt,
In reference to Shido Bunan's Zen quote:
Die
Yo Platt,
Khoo:
By the way, since you say my explanations have supported Bo's
contentions, what's the colour of the number 3?
Platt:
Chartreuse. :-)
Khoo:
Hah, Is that the colour of your MOQ or the lenses you wear ? They make for
a nice cool pair of shades though, 8-) thanks.
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/community-oriented
which can complement and can be complemented by the Western philosophic
tradition which is essentially abstraction / substance/
objects/individuals-oriented.
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Aquinas – and
to an understanding of logic that helped the discipline of mathematics to
survive and, slowly, thrive again in the Western countries.
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you fancy a trip to Asia this fall? : )
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of the MOQ in this
discussion.
Thank you.
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On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:15 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.comwrote:
The MOQ rejects the Cartesian self as a ridiculous fiction and replaces
that concept of the self with the MOQ's concept of the self as a complex
Shall we dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G553_oRp-o
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Thought I should share this with you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB8j_9k-QzI
Remember,
If you tighten the string too much it will snap,
And if you leave it too slack it will not play,
Go with the flow, John, with the twists and turns
Life's path lies between the fire and the rain.
Hear ! Hear !
Many Happy Returns of the Day !
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Dear Bob,
Marsha, who has a good heart and is thoughtful to a fault, reminds me that
today is your birthday. I think if everyone here could agree on just one
thing; it would be on
Platt,
You can have the last word in this matter. You repeat this quote so often;
by this sheer effort, it should stand for posterity.
Rgds
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Platt Holden platthol...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Marsha,
Yes, Mr. Pirsig is a good man. He is generous
.
Your students have a good teacher in you.
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Arlo Bensinger ajb...@psu.edu wrote:
[DMB quotes Pirsig]
I'm very pleased to know that Dr. Anthony McWatt and David Buchanan will
be speaking at Oxford. They are the two foremost philosophers today
to an end. And
maybe most of the world too.
Lets see how events unfold in the next few weeks.
Khoo Hock Aun
On 9/28/07, Heather Perella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Khoo Hock Aun, thank you for posting this.
I've been watching the news, searching
specifically for the details
Marsha
Thanks for this post. Nowsomething I wrote aeons ago..
...by a neurosurgical stroke so fine
I find myself completely out of my mind..
Khoo Hock Aun
On 11/11/07, MarshaV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From ZEN-BRAIN REFLECTIONS by James H. Austin, M.D.
MRI of a Poet's Brain
to divide and
classify - is just too strong is it not ?
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Hi Akshay
On 8 Nov. you wrote in response to (Pirsig's) question
1. In relation to whether Upanishadic philosophy can be classified as
intellectual
Bo,
There is Pirsig in everything
And there is everything in Pirsig,
Best Best of regards
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On 11/13/07, Heather Perella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[SA previously]
Exactly! What was Bo thinking here? I
totally agree with you Khoo Hock Aun!
[Bo]
I may seem
It is the clinging to the false that makes the true so
difficult to see. The real is always with you; you need
not wait to be what you are. Only you must not allow
your mind to go out of yourself in search. When you want
something, ask yourself: do I really need it? And if the
answer is not, then
the autumn leaves pile by the door
I almost hear the rustle of her dress
how can I bring my aching heart to rest
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The bright moon,
the wind moves leaves -
geese not seen.
Flight across the pond, well met
A being bigger than names
raindrops on
reborn now, chimeric, chameleonic
a goddess, she thought was she
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thoughts falling from the trees.
Wind chimes, rabbit rhythms, dancing sea.
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person of Hillary) but in the ultimate acceptance of a woman as de facto
leader of the world. What do you all think ?
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Marsha,
Marsha, I wonder about this depiction of females
of evil, too, and I found two depictions (a more
gender it belongs to ?
Khoo Hock Aun
Greetings,
What do you mean She has a man's brain.. The static assumptions in
that statement just makes my blood boil. But putting that aside, I
agree with your last paragraph, and thank you for writing it.
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, biological, social and intellectual. Only the parts
need to come together.
Nothing of that sort happens when delinked parts imagine themselves isolated
and reject or subdue the other.
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[Khoo Hock Aun]
I know a lot
of culture in
that, and perhaps more.
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
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Hi David (MB)
You said on 3 January:
Bo said:
There are no MOQ patterns across two levels, but lots of words that
straddles many levels.
dmb says:
What? Except for purely
of Patterns. The
Metaphysics of Morphogenesis.
A Metaphysics that cannot be explained by the intellectual level, alone.
For us to judge what is good and what is bad, what is of value and what is
worth doing, we need a Metaphysics of Quality.
That is what we are all about.
Rgds
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Imagine walking along a sidewalk with your arms full of
groceries, and someone roughly bumps into you so that you
fall and your groceries are strewn over the ground.
As you rise up from the puddle of broken eggs and tomato juice,
you are ready to shout out, You idiot! What's wrong with
you? Are
the system, or its us.
Which is it to be ?
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
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hi dan, thanks for that story.
i am more on walter's side re: astrology. not inferring causative
relations, just saying everything's an analogue all the way down and
up
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From: Khoo Hock Aun khoohock...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MD] The Brujo
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
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“*Be the change you want to see in the world*.” - Gandhi
Gav
Marsha David,
Here's something from Chinese 4th Century poet T'ao Ch'ien that may
resonate:
A human being has no roots
We are light as dust on the path
Scattered and carried by a gust of wind
In this body is no permanency
Born into this world makes us brothers
No need of flesh and blood
Dear all,
Every now and then, as in Tiananmen Square, in Burma and now in Tehran,
humanity feels the common bond with the oppressed who revolt against the
unyielding weight of tyranny in their lives.
It is perhaps inevitable that the intellect has ossified movements into
uncaring institutions
I, for one appreciate your openness. We are here to discuss the Metaphysics
of Quality. Some here intellectualise, some here, like you, speak from
direct experience. To each his or her own. The value of this forum is that
it should allow both approaches to the MOQ as Pirsig, layering direct
to disrupt the Olympics, we see in the
short space of time, the clash of values, movements, institutions the world
over - all over the question of what is good and bad for the Tibetan people.
This question requires a bit of meditation I am afraid and to each his/her
own.
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
or returning in another form. Perhaps that is what he is
preparing his flock for.
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
On 5/18/08, Heather Perella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Khoo Hock Aun,
If the Dali Lama is voted to not be
reincarnated, then what happens to Bodhisattva of
Compassion?
SA
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SA: This would
keep the current undertakings intact, compassion would
not leave them. Compassion would have taken on a much
larger role though, not just a Tibetan role, but a
more universal role of compassion. This would seem to
be attuned to the Bodhisattva way in the first place.
SA: Or, are you saying the people could
vote for the continuance of the Dali Lama, but the
Bodhisattva of Compassion reserves the choice to be
reincarnated as the Dali Lama by this Bodhisattvas own
choosing? Wouldn't this also be a change? One that
hasn't happened in the each of the last
in isolation or in its own self-interest. Thats what Pirsig
meant.
Before the battle is fought and after the dead are buried, the rest of us
are the ones who have to live with the consequences of what we do. The
soldier, with great respect, is only one of us doing our biding.
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think. Quality almost always depends on what we see.
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
So yesterday was my 50th birthday. I didn't go anywhere, see anyone or do
anything. I stayed home with my boy, my youngest, Josh.
Lu went
Skutvik :
Thus the oriental intellectual level was every bit as S/O as the Occidental,
but the
Orientals did not lock on to that level to let it develop into a S/O
metaphysics like the West.
Khoo:
Wow, Bo this is as superficial as you can get about a culture and a
civilisation bounded by a
Hi Marsha
Quaint, to find my words thrown back at me : )
But really, when the world is crashing down on so many people, I guess there
wont be many with half a mind; is any. Then they didnt have any to begin
with, if they allowed themselves to caught up in the global euphoria of the
bubble; the
; or a machine that transcends Time.
The idea of an individual has no meaning or sense in such a world view.
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Sorry this should read:
In reality, time is NOT only linear but multilinear and omnilinear and
happening all at once and everywhere.
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I would like to reply to at least two threads this weekend, when I
The spiritual center of the World has had different names in different
traditions, but in many spiritual systems there is referred to a certain and
unique point of emanation of spiritual order, most often described in a way
that indicates it being placed in a parallel world or a higher dimension.
and all the same at the same time. And the secret to the time
machine; or a machine that transcends Time.
The idea of an individual has no meaning or sense in such a world view.
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.
But as a quantum leap into a new philosophical inquiry but based on the
western tradition of the scientific method; it depends, I suppose, on how
much one is prepared to let go of some, if not all, of its fundamental
premises.
There you have it. I hope that helps.
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Khoo Hock Aun
step outside of Time to be incredibly congruent
with being in a Quality moment; the peace of a monastery away from the daily
papers, bloomberg TV, boom and bust cycles, ordinary experiences of living
and dying.
I will get back to ya, when I can.
Best.,
Khoo Hock Aun
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 10:26 PM
of meditation is to 'de-reflex our experience of socalled
'time' and to step outside of it to greet the eternal now that you
personified in your essay.
Best,
Khoo Hock Aun
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Hi Platt,
Okay, looks like sleep will have to wait
with in relation to the
universe than based on subject object reductionism.
Luck for instance is the pictogram of a girl under a house. Fortune is the
pictogram of a hat over what is land. What is experienced is what is
represented.
Best
Khoo Hock Aun
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Andre
of form, perpetually in flux with the
everchanging universe. There was no beginning and there is no end, it can't
therefore grow old.
Khoo Hock Aun
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Platt Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Khoo,
My physical body may age and be at a certain chronological
the extreme
directions it has been taken by its leaders, imperial or socialist. It makes
no pretense that intellect is merely a tool (even if elements are borrowed
from the West) it is not an end in itself.
Best Regards
Khoo Hock Aun
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Andre Broersen [EMAIL
Hi Andre
I will get back to you on the points below but in the meantime, something to
think about from Mckinsey:
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Strategy/Globalization/China_surprises
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Andre Broersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Khoo says:
China
Hi Marsha
There is. Just take 1 SOM tablet 50 mg strength after meals preferably
before writing to this list.
Best !
Khoo Hock Aun
On 11/13/08, MarshaV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings
Warning. Heard on the radio last night that if you start writing poetry,
painting and generally
observes: and that there is none.
If only we can say as much about quality without all the words of the last
10 years. Paint me a picture.
Best regards
Khoo Hock Aun
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:28 PM, MarshaV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 03:47 AM 11/18/2008, you wrote:
Marsha
Re your
Spot on Ian, intellectualisation by itself does not lead to realisation.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Ian Glendinning
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
And so Bo, Steve, etc ...
We come full circle yet again ... to the finger and the moon, the map
and the terrain, the menu and the meal
The
and an undisturbed mind.
Best
Khoo Hock Aun
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:45 PM, MarshaV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 06:38 AM 11/24/2008, you wrote:
Marsha
p.s. I consider some of the work done on the forum to be pattern
busting.
Andre:
Thank you for your confidence Marsha. Glad you liked 'my
- 1977
Best
Khoo Hock Aun
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM, MarshaV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Khoo,
What do you think?
Marsha
At 04:38 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
Greetings Khoo,
Yes, I think it is intellectual, and much, much more.
Everything-is-connected-to-everything would make
is like a big banana tree leaf or
the last who pulls on the tail that says if you pull on its cord, the
heavens open up on you !!
Best
Khoo Hock Aun
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Ian Glendinning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Beautiful Khoo,
I like Dead Poets too, it has some flaws
to you give yourself.
Regards
Khoo Hock Aun
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Andre Broersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Platt (to Bodvar):
So on three counts, SOM intellect has not and can not regulate society with
anything other than detrimental effect. The survey of students mentioned
the education system and
we have to reach into our direct experience with the world and the universe
in general to acheive a proper balance.
Where the intellect and its systems fails us, we make up for it with
commonsense.
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Andre Broersen [EMAIL
the next nine, marsha.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM, MarshaV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just finishing Matisse, the 9th. It's been very helpful... And, I've
learned a little about making judgements. When it's seen without its
biblical/parental connotations, judgement becomes value.
or ideology what does it take, as Rodney asked : to get
along ?
Rgds
Khoo Hock Aun
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Bo,
Its not that your topic is odd or even novel. Its your circularity that has
us going on round in dead ends.
I am sure that you know you can take logic only as far the premises you base
your argumentation on will take you. You may draw your conclusions, but we
question your premises and all
any more time. Get on with it.
Regards,
Khoo Hock Aun
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:26 AM, ml mbtl...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Khoo,
Just a small correction:
The Apocrypha is accepted by the fully
Orthodox as holy writ, just not as part
of the Bible.
Many gnostic writings claim
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