Re: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR and VBR

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Klemm
:: --abr n :: :: turns on encoding with a targeted average bitrate of n kbits, allowing :: to use frames of different sizes. The allowed range of n is 4-310, you :: can use any integer value within that range. :: The "4" I don't understand at all. MPEG-1 Layer III supports frame sizes

[MP3 ENCODER] ABR and VBR

2000-08-15 Thread DataFlow
could anyone tell me what the difference is between ABR and VBR? (maybe a URL where I can learn more?) I know VBR stands for Variabele Bitrate, it means that every MPEG-frame can have a different # kbits/sec. Does ABR mean Average Bitrate or so? thanx, DataFlow

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR and VBR

2000-08-15 Thread Ross Levis
Do a search of the mail list archive where it has been discussed in detail. DataFlow wrote: could anyone tell me what the difference is between ABR and VBR?(maybe a URL where I can learn more?) I know VBR stands for Variabele Bitrate, it means that every MPEG-frame can have a different #

Sv: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-07-04 Thread Peter Olufsen
I'm using/testing the parameters --abr 214 -h -k -m s -b 160 3.85 gives about 5% less average bitrate than 3.84, whats the reason for that ? In 3.85 adding -q 1 gives the same output, in 3.84 files where different, is that ok ? A specific file gives an average of 173kbps in 3.85 (182kbps in

Re: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-27 Thread Ivo van Heel
So I would stick with ABR 192kbs if you are happy with CBR 192kbs. But to guarantee every single frame of an ABR encoding is at least as good as CBR, you would need to use "--abr 211" (192 + 10%) Wait a second, I don't get this. You just said that both CBR and ABR will do most

Re: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-26 Thread Ivo
So both ABR 192 and CBR 192 have the same worst case scenario: many frames encoded at around 172kbs. ABR wins in the best case scenario since it will always have extra bits avialable even if the reservoir is empty. So I would stick with ABR 192kbs if you are happy with CBR 192kbs. But

Sv: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-26 Thread Peter Olufsen
ecause 211 -10% = 189.9 ! (I have a file that gives 190 average with --abr 212 -b 160) Peter - Original Message - From: Ivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR So both ABR 192 and CBR 192 have the same

Re: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-26 Thread Mark Taylor
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:08:17 +0200 From: Ivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] So both ABR 192 and CBR 192 have the same worst case scenario: many frames encoded at around 172kbs. ABR wins in the best case scenario since it will always have extra bits avialable even if the reservoir is empty.

Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-24 Thread Peter Olufsen
I normaly use -h -k -b 192 -ms for encoding. If I change -b 192 to --abr 192 i get files with average about 180-182kbit (about 45% frames at 160 and 10% above 192). Is the reason for this bits that was wasted in CBR before ? If its not, which parameters should be used if you want files that

Re: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-24 Thread Mark Taylor
I normaly use -h -k -b 192 -ms for encoding. If I change -b 192 to --abr 192 i get files with average about 180-182kbit (about 45% frames at 160 and 10% above 192). Is the reason for this bits that was wasted in CBR before ? Here's a simplified explination of what happens in CBR: most

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-23 Thread Mark Taylor
Could someone just post an explanation of the differences between ABR and VBR. I still don't understand the previous explanations completely. Thanx Here's yet more thoughts on all the different modes. They are based on two different ideas about bit allocation: 1. Allocate bits based on