RE: [Mpls] Bridges as affordable housing

2003-12-04 Thread David Brauer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] With bridge rods preventing people who are homeless from finding shelter under our bridges... the opportunity to list bridges as units of affordable housing has been missed by our Mayor. Margaret

[Mpls] Minneapolis police and community reps will sign mediation agreement

2003-12-04 Thread List Manager
Strib's Dave Chanen writes: The document will be made public and officially signed today during a news conference at the Minneapolis Urban League headquarters. Details aren't yet public, but the agreement addresses issues ranging from use of force and diversifying the workplace to removing

RE: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread Jason C Stone
Perhaps Michael Atherton's gripe with peace is that he is interpreting Peace as Peace At Any Cost instead of Peace First. There are very few people who believe in Peace At Any Cost, and I conjecture that Michael is debating with a rare bird the likes of which are seldom spotted - the complete

Re: [Mpls] My apologies, congratulations and thanks

2003-12-04 Thread Peter T Schmitz
First of all my apologies to Mayor Rybak for wrongfully accusing him of initiating the practice of counting shelter beds and mats as affordable housing. Thank you, Mayor Rybak, for changing this practice. Secondly, my most heartfelt congratulations to Scott Russell and Skyway News for coming out

Re: [Mpls] Mpls. Shelter Codes/ a good night's sleep...

2003-12-04 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 12/3/03 9:40:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: D.P. As for anyone's interpretation of the Minneapolis zoning code, the language is clear that when there is a mission Treatment for chemical dependency and overnight shelter are prohibited. That no

[Mpls] Re: Do-goodin for fun and profit

2003-12-04 Thread Aaron Klemz
Regarding the claim: "Improving the safety net = more people jump in." This is a claim repeated like a mantra by many folks on this thread and others. I'd love to see some empirical (heck, I'll settle for ANECDOTAL) support for the argument that providing adequate shelter cots for folks to avoid

[Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Meeting

2003-12-04 Thread Peaches Cook
I understand that B Sabri and PPL are gathering the troops for a take over of the Ventura Village Neighborhood orgainzation at the next annual meeting. The last count I had was around 200 people. I hope that whatever happens, the people who are not re-elected to the board continue to

[Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Meeting - forgot to sign last post.

2003-12-04 Thread Peaches Cook
Sorry, forgot to sign last post. I understand that B Sabri and PPL are gathering the troops for a take over of the Ventura Village Neighborhood orgainzation at the next annual meeting. The last count I had was around 200 people. I hope that whatever happens, the people who are not re-elected to

Re: [Mpls] Some clarification please/Do-goodin' fun Profit

2003-12-04 Thread WizardMarks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sweeter we make the safety net; the more people, from far and wide, will show up to jump into it. What an unfortunate slur against those most unable to cope with their present situations. I believe that the sweet safety nets are called golden parachutes and only

[Mpls] Bridges as affordable housing

2003-12-04 Thread m1r3201
With bridge rods preventing people who are homeless from finding shelter under our bridges... the opportunity to list bridges as units of affordable housing has been missed by our Mayor. Margaret Hastings-Mps-Kingfield

[Mpls] Re: Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread Remy De Gourmont
It's a little bit disturbing, in a forum like this, to see the word political used in the usual talk-radio sense of anything I don't like and that's too complicated for me to figure out and that comes from a left-wing perspective. ALL public school curriculum has a political bias. Beyond that, the

[Mpls] More Cars on Lake Street Too Costly - Spokesman-Recorder letter

2003-12-04 Thread Dave Piehl
Once again bucking the trend of some news organizations that choose to ignore important social and livability issues, the Spokesman-Recorder has published an excellent letter on the business and social costs associated with the current plans for Lake Street. The author of the letter, Liz

FW: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread Michael Atherton
Jason Stone wrote: Perhaps Michael Atherton's gripe with peace is that he is interpreting Peace as Peace At Any Cost instead of Peace First. Before I respond to specific comments I'd like to reiterate my major point: I don't believe that the public schools should be endorsing anyone's

Re: [Mpls] Bridges as affordable housing

2003-12-04 Thread David Shove
We should not overlook doghouses - large ones for adults, smaller ones for children. Unfortunately this causes homeless dogs, which may be a problem of more concern. --David Shove Roseville On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With bridge rods preventing people who are homeless

[Mpls] lake st development

2003-12-04 Thread buechler
Hi all, Just read an informative article about Lake St. development and what the city is thinking of doing. Sounds like there are some important issues to consider before we jump ahead on this. Do we really want to discourage bike and bus travel along Lake Street? There are a lot of new

RE: [Mpls] Re: Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread Brandon Lacy
Great post, Niels, and I, a 1995 MPS graduate, strongly concur ;-) -Brandon Lacy Powderhorn park Those who find a peace curriculum so horrifying should take heart: no veneer of creeping leftism is going to obscure the bulk of right-wing ideology that dominates thinking in the Minneapolis Public

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Meeting

2003-12-04 Thread RAlbee4045
As a resident of Ventura Village, I wonder why Mr. Peaches from Powderhorn Park neighborhood is so interested in my neighborhood and thinks he knows what's good for us. I used to live in Powerhorn Park in the 1970's and now that I'm here, I certainly wouldn't be putting my voice out regarding

Re: FW: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread David Shove
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Michael Atherton wrote: David Shove wrote: What is your position on JROTC - Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps - in the public schools, directed by the military, but financed in part by city property taxes? I believe that if it is included along with a choice of

[Mpls] Response (non) of PPL Director

2003-12-04 Thread tberthiaume
Call me old-fashioned, but I grew up believing that segregation is just plain wrong, and I am baffled by the moral gymnastics that folks go through to justify keeping it going. Current housing placement indicates that the intrinsic value of integration (racial, economic, disability) is just not

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Take Over Meeting

2003-12-04 Thread ROBINSON . COOK
I agree with Bob on this point. Most of the people who attend Ventura Village meetings have done pretty good work along Franklin Ave. As a marginal member I think the main issue that I've observed is that even if we don't like each other and certainly don't agree with one another, we don't want

Re: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread Neal Krasnoff
The following are citations for the constitutional basis of ROTC programs. There are no such counterparts for a Peace Curriculum. Interested parties may wish to amend the Minnesota Constitution through referendum. Neal Krasnoff Loring Park --Begin cite MILITARY POWER SUBORDINATE. The

[Mpls] Siting affordable housing in fortress neighborhoods

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Lohman
Tom Berthiaume wrote: All it would take is for City leaders and housing advocates to gather the courage to go to battle with the fortress neighborhoods and place future affordable and supportive housing where there are also dollars and votes. Please don't blame the suburbs for the sins of

[Mpls] mps school classes

2003-12-04 Thread kevin reich
disclosure- another MPS graduate post What if the MPS (or any other) system could be absolutely apolitical, neutral exclusively focused on the basics? I am having a hard time imagining such a place. Are there any examples? My high school friends who went to catholic school for k-8 never

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Take Over Meeting

2003-12-04 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 12/4/03 4:00:32 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a lighter note. I am only in my 30's but remember what was on Franklin Ave (80's and 90's) from 35 to Hiawatha, then as opposed to now. Red Robin Liquor Store, Bill Blass, Red Owl Grocery Store, the Porno

Re: FW: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread WizardMarks
Michael Atherton wrote: Elementary schools should focus on their primary mission: teaching children to read, write, do arithmetic, and understand basic science; ... WM: K-8 is over two thirds of a kid's basic guaranteed education. I would hope that they learn more than just reading',

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Take Over?Franklin Nostalgia/History

2003-12-04 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 12/4/03 4:52:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It later became, I think, the Polar Bear Lounge and the clientele changed from white to Indian; and that's all that changed. Same damn deal every night only now it looked like a miscast fifties tv

[Mpls] Bias in Minneapolis Schools

2003-12-04 Thread Cathy Leighton
I have long resisted posting on this subject because my youngest child is still in the Minneapolis school system and I don't want to subject that child to retaliation. My involvement (for the last 17 years), has been limited to the schools that my children attended and not the whole system.

[Mpls] goods below cost

2003-12-04 Thread mplsgordon2
Aaron Klemz writes: I'd love to see some empirical (heck, I'll settle for ANECDOTAL) support for the argument that providing adequate shelter cots for folks to avoid sleeping outside in the winter makes more people either: a) Give up their housing to take advantage of the sweeter shelter

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village Annual Take Over?Franklin Nostalgia/History

2003-12-04 Thread PennBroKeith
Forgot to sign: Keith Reitman NearNorth REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see:

[Mpls] RE: Siting affordable housing in fortress neighborhoods

2003-12-04 Thread Bill Cullen
Paul Lohman wrote: I know for a fact that there are a great many people out here who will work (and are working) very hard to make it happen. Work with us. Don't stereotype our neighborhoods. Paul, you want us to believe that there are a great many people working very hard to bring

[Mpls] Charter Schools

2003-12-04 Thread Ben Jangula
Hi, Has anyone out there had any of their kids attend a charter school? Does anyone have an opinion of the Minnesota Charter School(s)? I have a high schooler that is struggling with conventional high school and we are considering a charter school. What type of education can a person expect

Re: [Mpls] goods below cost

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Snyder
On 12/4/03 8:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Klemz writes: I'd love to see some empirical (heck, I'll settle for ANECDOTAL) support for the argument that providing adequate shelter cots for folks to avoid sleeping outside in the winter makes more people either: a)

[Mpls] re: Thoughts on New Police Chief

2003-12-04 Thread bshoe
Excuse me if others have raised this and I've missed it, but shouldn't an important aspect of hiring the new chief be the process for removing him/her if there are future performance problems? A major roadblock to removing the current chief was the amount of money that it would have taken to

RE: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-04 Thread Jim Bernstein
NEAL - None of the citations is relevant. The Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) is a voluntary arrangement between the various branches of the armed services and participating colleges and universities. Some high schools also participate. Colleges, universities, and high schools can