So, Eva, asking questions and ascertaining veracity is now the same as
discrediting? You may want to read both my post and Mark's response a bit more
closely, especially since Mark responded that the links I posted was pretty much
what he had read and that it was admittedly pretty slim. Having
Some havent written this is not an election. They are correct it is not an
election, however it is a nomination process, much like the president has when
appointing cabinet heads and judicial appointments.
Part of the process includes input from various groups, which has been done
in the
Mark Anderson and Eva Young are wrong to suggest that police brutality,
or thumperism, has gone down during Olson's tenure. REPORTS of brutality
have certainly gone down, but that's only because with a gutted Citizen
Review Authority that's only recently been resuscitated, a civilian
abused by
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- The No Confidence vote was for putting restrictions on the use of deadly
force and police chases, how can you realistically argue against that?
The answer is dependent on what the initial problem was with deadly
force and pursuits; if the union, representing the
Minneapolis is a DIVERSE city. The District of
Columbia is a SEGREGATED city.
McManus spent 26 years in the DC police-most of his
career.
In DC, the metaphor of the police as an army of
occupation has some validity. DC didn't get home rule
until the 70's. They are still subject to
While I think Mark Anderson is right to say that employees' opinions do
matter, I do think Jonathan Palmer made a great point to distinguish between
the police union in Dayton vs. the street cops. It's not necessarily a good
assumption to believe that the union speaks for all members.
Look at
What's plain to me is that our city residents are
perhaps more divided than the council on the issue of
who should be our next police chief.
There are those like Peter (I might be assuming to
much, but I hope not) and me, who are ready to do what
we can to make things difficult for any
Community policing is not some warm and fuzzy
approach to such serious problems as drug dealing,
gangs, and predators that victimize law-abiding
citizens. It is a smart, collaborative, big-picture
approach to tackling crime and, equally as important,
fear of crime.
I am glad to see the candidate
Ed Fesler wrote:
William McManus has a very good understanding of
Black/White issues. How well will understand the
complex multi-ethnic diversity of Minneapolis?
District of Columbia, 2000
---
White persons: 30.8%
Black or African American
Mark Wilde wrote:
Community policing is not some warm and fuzzy
approach to such serious problems as drug dealing,
gangs, and predators that victimize law-abiding
citizens. It is a smart, collaborative, big-picture
approach to tackling crime and, equally as important,
fear of crime.
I am glad to
Thanks, Scott, for requesting perspective on Mr. McManus. I attended the
meeting yesterday at Maria's café and came away very impressed.
I believe that improving police/community relations should be one of the
highest priorities for law enforcement in Minneapolis. I mentioned to Mr.
It's the benefits folks, not the salary. Full health and dental. Trust me that costs a lot more than the salary. Probably only John Erwin doesn't use the coverage because he is covered at the University. Lisa McDonald East Harriet. - Original Message - From: WizardMarks Sent: Tuesday,
Pulse of the Twin Cities
January 7 - January 13, 2004
Volume 7, Issue 40
by Burt Berlowe
One day last fall, East Phillips resident Annie Young received a most
provocative e-mail from a source that prefers anonymity. It read as follows:
Somali violence has been happening on the West Bank
I would sincerely hope that Lilligren, Schiff, and the five other CMs
supporting DC Lubinski are taking that position for more than her
minority status. Has any one of them said that? I'm having a hard time
believing any one of them would be dumb enough to say, We want Lubinski
cause she's
Dear Mark,
He was talking about Community policing. I don't think that's a synonym
for beating suspected rapists and drug dealers. McManus was saying that
it's possible for the police to confront drug dealing, gangs, and predators
in a meaningful and more effective way while *not* being a
I hope people will read the following article. It's the strongest possible
support for neighbors watching out for each other, be that effort by
individuals, by block groups, NRP groups, anything that works.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/06/science/06PROF.html
You may have to register at the
WM: If the no votes on the council are the majority, then I think there is more to
their disagreement than identity politics.
PS: Your right, Wizard. In addition to identity politics, there's also gross
insensitivity to communities of color who have suffered the most from police brutality
Please tune in to On CUE for a cozy winter historic preservation show,
featuring a lovingly restored 1904 Victorian in Minneapolis' Logan Park
neighborhood. Also tune in for a description of the Grain Belt Brew
House renovation, hear about the old and new heartbeats of Minneapolis'
Central
I know there was a lot of interest in Scott Russell's Park Board stories,
which are now out in today's SW Journal and online. Here are the links:
Anatomy of the vote: http://www.swjournal.com/display/inn_news/news01.txt
Why can't Park Board members get along - the history:
At 04:11 PM 1/8/2004, David Brauer wrote:
I know there was a lot of interest in Scott Russell's Park Board stories,
which are now out in today's SW Journal and online. Here are the links:
Anatomy of the vote: http://www.swjournal.com/display/inn_news/news01.txt
After all the Park Board hullaballo,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS: Your right, Wizard. In addition to identity politics, there's also gross insensitivity to communities of color who have suffered the most from police brutality and crime containment.
WM: And how do you know there is gross insensitivity driving the CMs
who want to
I thought some of you creative, latent artists out there might want to
address this RFP while going through the winter doldrums.
Subject: Fwd: Re: a 10-hole miniature golf course organized by the Walker
Call for Proposals
Description
Walker in the Rough, a 10-hole miniature golf course
Well, this morning I saw that the mudslinging from the swamps of the Park
Board continued to be thrown about in today's Star Trib. Because I
have decided to try to rise above the fray I will not go back
and forth on who's right - who's wrong (ore he said, she said) anymore on
these issues. Scott
From Rochelle Olson:
Newly appointed Superintendent Jon Gurban's other employer, the Minnesota
Parks and Recreation Association, declined Wednesday to grant his request
for a one-year leave as executive director. The association is the trade
group for all state park and recreation groups.
Gurban
No credible bids come in for Park Board idea...Irwin Jacobs pulls out.
From Rochelle Olson:
Jacobs said Thursday that he will sell boats to anybody who is interested,
but that he's done with the marina project. It looked like it was going
down that political road, and that was distasteful to me,
David Wilson writes:
I'd stipulate (and I'm sure McManus would stipulate) that his jump from
Dayton, Ohio to Minnepolis is because it is a professional challenge as
well as for quality of life and family reasons.
EY: Actually, I'd rather see McManus directly address this question. It's
a
Keith says; It appears to me that DB lives Journalism. He also appears to
read ALL our posts; what a mammoth task reflecting his huge respect for freedom
of OUR expression. Our voluminous expressions not always being the MOST
fascinating way to pass voluntary moments(hours).
I will offer EY
I meant for this title to appear.
Thank all, Keith Reitman NearNorth
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Wizard, you wrote a couple of things I wanted to respond to, so I've clipped
them below:
I think it's possible that each of those opposed may have a different
reason why they are opposed. One possibility is that they want to square off
against Rybak.
This is kind of the problem, the question
Discrediting wasn't the right word. Your post was expanding on Mark
Anderson's point about Street Cops - while avoiding his point about whether McManus
was an effective manager.
Well, Eva, what you've done is give me a ticket for littering because you
don't like how I drive. More and still,
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