[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
Hi, MSEide+MSEgui 3.6 has been released: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ New target: arm-linux (Raspberry Pi). MSEide runs amazingly fast on the Raspberry Pi. There is also a new project template for i386-linux - arm-linux cross compiling and debugging. The necessary

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Barton
On 28 Nov 2014, at 07:23, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 November 2014 21:59:02 Geoffrey Barton wrote: 1looking at the compiled file with 'readelf', it appears to say 'softfloat'. But also VFPV3_d16, which is a hard float. The target in crossarmdefault.prj

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console

2014-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Barton
how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? Geoffrey -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? First make a project from the console.prj template. Then 'Project'-'New'-'From Template', crossarmdefault.prj, in 'New Project' select the *.prj file of the new

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 11/27/2014 01:02 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: I don't understand why so much discussion about Unicode support on FPC list Did you read http://wiki.freepascal.org/not_Delphi_compatible_enhancement_for_Unicode_Support ? Here: With Delphi XE, Embarcadero decided that the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 11/27/2014 01:02 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: I don't understand why so much discussion about Unicode support on FPC list Did you read

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console

2014-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Barton
On 28 Nov 2014, at 12:39, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? First make a project from the console.prj template. Then 'Project'-'New'-'From Template',

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 11/28/2014 03:20 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: The problem in FPC, I think, is they want to keep Old code, Delphi compatibilities, implement new things... at the same time! Plus creating code for multiple OSes and processors. IMHO they should: 1- Forget Delphi compatibilities, at least in mode

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 15:41:29 Michael Schnell wrote: In fact they do something like this by allowing the user to select sevberal modes (e.g. fpc delphi and delphiunicode) I.e. there are several different implementations (and syntax) for several issues. But doing a decently better

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 11/28/2014 03:20 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: The problem in FPC, I think, is they want to keep Old code, Delphi compatibilities, implement new things... at the same time! Plus creating code for multiple OSes and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 15:25:12 Geoffrey Barton wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 12:39, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? First make a project from the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 11/28/2014 04:04 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: Please forget the crap with codepage aware ansistring, dynamic encoded string and what not... IMHO, the reference counting element-size and encoding-brand enabled (tm) data type is a really powerful concept. But unfortunately there is no decent

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 15:41:29 Michael Schnell wrote: In fact they do something like this by allowing the user to select sevberal modes (e.g. fpc delphi and delphiunicode) I.e. there are several different

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 11/28/2014 04:04 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: Please forget the crap with codepage aware ansistring, dynamic encoded string and what not... IMHO, the reference counting element-size and encoding-brand enabled (tm)

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console

2014-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Barton
On 28 Nov 2014, at 15:16, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 15:25:12 Geoffrey Barton wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 12:39, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: how do I crossarm-compile a console

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:16:44 Marcos Douglas wrote: FPC has Unicode support since ages, it is named UnicodeString. It even had it before Delphi before Florian killed it by making the reference counted win32 WideString a Delphi compatible OLE string. I unsuccessfully begged to

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 11/28/2014 04:23 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: If wants Delphi so, buy and use it! It still is not usable on Linux (and supposedly VCL applications will never be portable to Linux with Delphi). fpc can help. :-( In fact my colleagues need to keep their huge set of huge Programs compilable by

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Julio Jiménez
2014-11-28 16:29 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: ... because it is a hobby project where the purpose is not to produce tools for others for free but that the developers have fun. Really? why do you think so? you can read at freepascal.org: Free Pascal is a 32,64 and 16 bit

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread misu kun
its really nice to see msegui/mseide still growing . keep up the good work . btw , do you have intention to implement code completion or its low priority ? -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:41:31 Julio Jiménez wrote: 2014-11-28 16:29 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: ... because it is a hobby project where the purpose is not to produce tools for others for free but that the developers have fun. Really? why do you think so? Ask

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:41:57 misu kun wrote: its really nice to see msegui/mseide still growing . keep up the good work . btw , do you have intention to implement code completion or its low priority ? You know the story, don't you? ;-) Martin

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Julio Jiménez
2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: Ask Florian. I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long discussion ;) Are you sure you didn't took his words out of context? :) --

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Updated mseconsts_es.pas

2014-11-28 Thread Julio Jiménez
Fix typo :( -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero mseconsts_es.7z Description: application/7z-compressed -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 17:01:02 Julio Jiménez wrote: 2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: Ask Florian. I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long discussion ;) Are you

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 11/28/2014 04:23 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: If wants Delphi so, buy and use it! It still is not usable on Linux (and supposedly VCL applications will never be portable to Linux with Delphi). fpc can help. :-( In

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Julio Jiménez juj...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: Ask Florian. I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Julio Jiménez
2014-11-28 17:39 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: For me that reads as that the compiler should compile itself, the rest is not important. This goal has been reached. :-) Yes, long time ago. BTW, this position is absolutely understandable, why should FPC core work for

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 17:01:02 Julio Jiménez wrote: 2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: Ask Florian. I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him on

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:41:57 misu kun wrote: its really nice to see msegui/mseide still growing . keep up the good work . btw , do you have intention to implement code completion or its low priority ? http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,26601.msg163745.html#msg163745

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 18:00:38 Julio Jiménez wrote: I think both (FPC devs and you) are using the same criterias. You aren't going to develop in MSEide something you don't like or don't need. (is not fun for you) This brings to my brain.. PDF support, autocompletion, code format... In

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Updated mseconsts_es.pas

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 17:21:11 Julio Jiménez wrote: Fix typo :( Applied, thanks. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status

2014-11-28 Thread Julio Jiménez
2014-11-28 18:25 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com: The problem with PDF is that it does not provide the calculation options that PostScript offers. MSEgui PostScript driver makes the precision text placement in the PostScript code with the actually loaded font. PDF can't do

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Edson H
First of all, congratulations for this Project. I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. My system Win32 - Windows 7. My suggestions: * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it inmmediatly, without configure anything. I'm spending half

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Edson H
Do you have to configure the FPC and the GDB too? I didn't read it on the README,txt. It's very complicated to create a simple project. There is not a default path or name. The Open dialog is something strange. There is a console window with a error message: Syntaxdeffile: Unable to open

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Patrick Goupell
On 11/28/2014 01:10 PM, Edson H wrote: First of all, congratulations for this Project. I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. My system Win32 - Windows 7. My suggestions: * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it inmmediatly,

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 19:10:31 Edson H wrote: First of all, congratulations for this Project. I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. My system Win32 - Windows 7. My suggestions: * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 28 November 2014 19:38:36 Edson H wrote: Do you have to configure the FPC and the GDB too? I didn't read it on the README,txt. The ${FPCDIR} and ${FPCLIBDIR} macros are not used by the MSEgui project templates, you can use them in your own settings if you like. ${DEBUGGER} must be