Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-20 Thread giles
and a positive affirmative action in itself. Regards Giles www.askham.org www.game-play.org.uk --- On Sun, 19/4/09, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: From: marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-20 Thread xDxD.vs.xDxD
hello there! i wanted to answer before, but i was flying all over :)(not true) a series of problems held me back these few days from this wonderful conversation (and yes, marc, i will call you up immediately :) because there are incredible news over here, and some of them might also concern

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-19 Thread marc garrett
...@richtextformat.co.uk wrote: From: richard willis listse...@richtextformat.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 6:06 PM

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-19 Thread marc garrett
Hi Catherine, Good to hear from you, and much thanks for your involvement in the discussion. Firstly, I must apologise for the rather long response. I could only answer some of your questions mainly because the email would of gone for ages, so hopefully this is enough... it seems as though

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-17 Thread giles
/displayreview.php?review_id=334 Regards Giles Askham www.askham.org www.game-play.org.uk --- On Thu, 16/4/09, richard willis listse...@richtextformat.co.uk wrote: From: richard willis listse...@richtextformat.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Pall Thayer
for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:41:03 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge Being stuck on an island in the middle

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 16 Apr 2009, at 10:10, helen varley jamieson wrote: yes turning off lights appliances, not overheating buildings, is just as (maybe more?) important as reducing flights driving. i don't have the stats but i understand that even turning off things like computers stereos at the wall can

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
What is the carbon footprint of using Skype? Massive server-farms probably have footprints similar to airports. Has anyone done a comparative analysis on this? Skype actually uses a peer-to-peer protocol, so there shouldn't be any need for huge server farms (although the network

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread richard willis
hey all i took this pledge, but it's easy for me as i barely get any time to dedicate to art as it is, the idea that i would have the time and money to fly somewhere to see it is almost absurd. for some of you guys it looks more challenging, and it really the challenged that should be taking this

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Simon Biggs
-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:23 +0100 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge hey all i took this pledge

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
yes turning off lights appliances, not overheating buildings, is just as (maybe more?) important as reducing flights driving. i don't have the stats but i understand that even turning off things like computers stereos at the wall can make a difference. h : ) Simon Biggs wrote: Then I am

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Simon Biggs
@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge there is definitely research on this, or at least on similar things. i remember something about one avatar in second life consuming the same amount of energy resources as one person living in brasil - did that come thru

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread isabel brison
Hello everyone, I'd like to share some thoughts about the fly for art topic. First of all, I haven't taken the pledge because I've actually got a flight booked for next month. But I rarely fly for art, so I don't think it will make much difference anyway. I think the problem is much bigger than

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread richard willis
my understanding of this pledge was that it was aimed at punters rather than artists. i wouldn't fly to reykjavik to see the sugarcubes, i'd wait until they turned up playing a gig in brighton [where i live] or london. the band should travel, the audience remain at home. same goes for yourself or

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi Richard, To save confusion here is a copy of the main text from the pledge: This is a public art experiment in the de-escalation of carbon-fuelled, high altitude, high-velocity, global art careering. For six months we choose to cover less physical distance, move more slowly between

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
er - what about net art? cyberformance? networked performance? broadcast music? webcasting? art on telly? (i think that does happen, occasionally) ... there is a wealth of art that can be experienced without leaving the comfort of your own home. i didn't understand the pledge as being about

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Catherine Daly
Hi, I don't have a high-flying art career. I have a pretty big carbon footprint, though. But it seems as though this project is negatively motivated, minimalist through purification, not simplicity: stop, avoid, less,careering. I feel that we've just gotten to the point where outside the major

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread richard willis
i didn't understand the pledge as being about flying to experience/view art, but flying for our art careers that was just me not reading it carefully enough! as you were 2009/4/16 helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com er - what about net art? cyberformance? networked performance?

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-15 Thread Pall Thayer
... warmest wishes michael --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: From: Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-15 Thread patrick simons
Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 6:07 PM Thanks Karen and Dimos for joining us so quickly and for setting

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-15 Thread Simon Biggs
wishes michael --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: From: Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-15 Thread marc garrett
* to drive anywhere in pursuit of my art... warmest wishes michael --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: From: Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-15 Thread marc garrett
wrote: From: Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 6:07 PM Thanks Karen and Dimos

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-15 Thread helen varley jamieson
there is definitely research on this, or at least on similar things. i remember something about one avatar in second life consuming the same amount of energy resources as one person living in brasil - did that come thru this list? as well as the actual use of the computer, the hardware

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Szpakowski
--- On Sun, 4/12/09, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: From: Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 6

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-12 Thread karen blissett
Hello Marc Ruth, I have signed up - I know it's mad, but I have a worrying feeling that most people out there are more likely to choose their careers and carry on with their flights, over the planet's safety. It is an extremely challenging request. We'll see - great idea by the way. I also

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-12 Thread marc garrett
Hi Karen, I know it's a tall order, this is why we have only begun by asking for 6 people to kick it off. We only set it up about 15-20 minutes ago, we've got till 26th April, and 2 (including yourself) have already signed up. So, I am hopeful... Thanks for signing up by the way :-) wishing

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-12 Thread Ruth Catlow
Thanks Karen and Dimos for joining us so quickly and for setting longer pledge deadlines; ) For those who'd like to join us but have tickets already booked for art-flights before 26th April, check out the comments:- - Karen's pledge has a 10th May as its deadline