Re: [NetBehaviour] Art, Lifestyle and Globalisation.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The phrase Open Source is a deliberately meaningless term. Only when it's used by artists/curators to describe the process of creating art? Whenever it is used. It was created specifically as a replacement for the phrase Free Software to avoid mentioning Freedom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source#History Time and again I see artists decide that Open Source is 1337 cool and they want to apply Open Source principles to their work. They then spend ages trying to work out what Open Source principles are. Can you give any examples of these artists? Politeness prevents me. :-) I can't see how it can take a long time to work out. Open source (as you no doubt know) basically means the source of the work is open to anybody to make use of without the threat of court action provided claims of authorship are not abused. The canonical definition for Open Source is the OSI definition, which is a file-the-serial-numbers-off copy of the Debian Free Software Guidelines. http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php The DFSG is a superset of the FSF's Free Software Definition. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html It has been modified to presuppose the BSD licence (the favoured license of market libertarians) rather than the GNU GPL (the favoured license of the market). It contains either redundancies or contradictions depending on how you read it. http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines (Just don't go making automatic drawings/writings open source otherwise you've open sourced your unconscious). I like this. :-) The lucky ones get fed up at this point. The unlucky ones discover Eric Raymond I've heard he's the butt of many jokes in some circles. He's kind of a secret handshake. ;-) http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond and decide that Open Source is a more efficient means of production. Which is an empty and exploitative set of principles on which to base art, unless you're going to ironise it. How does this compare with, for instance, the DIWO project? Although DIWO was not specifically Open Source, it was collaborative which is a atleast half of what Open Source is about. Collaboration is encouraged and protected by protecting the right to use software, which is the ethical core of Free Software. It is a downstream effect of rights. Without the right to use the products of collaboration equally, collaboration can quickly become exploitation. Lawrence Lessig's recent lectures appear to forget this, mystifying the origins of collaboration in (eg) Wikipedia and trying to induce it economically rather than protect it ethically. Collaboration is not in itself a primary goal or an interesting feature of Free Software. But it is very interesting culturally. In both cases the term Open Source doesn't explain why or help to guide us. They then spend some more time trying to understand how they can apply this to their work. The lucky ones decide that they cannot, and get on with their art while volunteering for community projects where they can help out. The unlucky ones try to keep their authorial oversight while getting some of that Open Source secret sauce, and end up as robber barons creating toy Open projects that read much better in conference notes than they look to the free labour that doesn't get to share in the value. Perhaps you could say more specifically about which sorts of artwork you're thinking about. Again manners preclude. I've seen some Open Source sculptures and paintings. The licencing tends to be terrible. If more and more artists could turn to Free Software strategies, that is to a language of rights and freedoms rather than to the fetishisation of downstream economic effects of those rights and freedoms, we might get somewhere. But it's also the institutions promoting it. Free Software strategies are of little use to the capitalists, they'd rather hide that aspect and that funny looking Richard Stallman. Free Software is very useful to capitalists. Apple wouldn't have an operating system without it, and IBM and Sun wouldn't have strategies for opposing Microsoft. Copyleft makes this a benefit to pluralistic society, ensuring that all users are able to use the software that this creates in order to pursue their own ends (this can be mapped to culture easily). BSD-style licenses just make it free labour for corporates. The name Open Source was designed to hide Stallman. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] First Armed Robots on Patrol in Iraq (Updated).
Andrej Tisma wrote: The machines had a tendency to spin out of control from time to time. Great, and how will they call friendly fire now? - Crazy robot fire ;-) They have a kill switch for the robot, so if its systems go out of control, you can use that part of the system (which will of course be working properly) to stop the rest of the system from - wait, wouldn't the kill switch be the thing you would use to activate it, not deactivate it? It's important to note that these are remote control robots rather than artificial intelligences. A human being has to give the authorization/order to fire, and the time factors this introduces have had to be allowed for. http://lemonodor.com/archives/2007/08/swords.html - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] First Armed Robots on Patrol in Iraq (Updated).
Andrej Tisma wrote: Yes, but how will they decide to use kill switch. If the system fails. Basically if it goes wrong. How many liberators have to be shot down before the switch is used? If the robot goes out of control then none. Remember, the robot is just a remote controlled gun. It doesn't decide what to shoot. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] communication: 'ype:t_comm'
james jwm-art net wrote: I'm not sure I want to read the nonsense in the arts council debate! Well it's good that they're trying. I did post a comment here: http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/artsdebate/2007/02/when_should_an_artist_receive.php Which is easier to find here: http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2007/05/05/a-comment-on-arts-council-funding/ So basically: it's art if you can use it. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] OurSpace - Review
OurSpace by Christine Harold. http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/harold_ourspace.html In OurSpace Christine Harold has produced a deep, subtle and thought-provoking history and critique of the strategies that activists have used to try to resist corporate enclosure of public social space over the last fifty years. Harold places strategies such as parody, appropriation, piracy, and amplification within their historical and social context to draw out their strengths and limitations for contemporary circumstances. And then, crucially, she explains how these strategies can be taken further. OurSpace presents a well-argued analysis of the hubris and unintentional complicity of Naomi Klein, Adbusters and of contemporary academic and activist soi-disant Situationists. It is also presents well-argued analysis of existing critiques of them. There are no sacred cows in OurSpace but nor are there any scapegoats. Adbusters may be attacking the wrong target with their talk of an image machine, argues Harold, but the strategy of intensification that they deploy with their Black Spot sneakers shows a way forward. This is a well-balanced and constructive critique. Some critics and opponents of Free Culture seem to regard it as an attempt to apply Free Software ideology to culture in general for no good reason. OurSpace describes one good reason by describing a genuine threat to the openness of society and positioning Free Culture activism, including the use of Creative Commons licences, as a possible contemporary answer to that threat. Harold explores the relation of commerce to culture and counterculture in depth, identifying the positive social effects of social media and mass media in their historical contexts. It goes on, as with the Black Spot example, to identify strategies of reform and exemplification that could perform Naomi Klein's elusive Judo Throw on the forms of capital rather than just its discarded images. This is a good read for those building brands as well as for those trying to deconstruct them. I cannot recommend OurSpace highly enough to anyone with an interest in Free Culture or media/brand/corporate politics. I found that it challenged some of my long-held positions while providing me with a better foundation for others. And the author has set up a wiki for the book, so if there's anything you really don't agree with you can comment there. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Digital Artists Need Our Support
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/11/digital_artists_need_our_suppo.html Digital moving arts have come a long way since the 80s video art scene and I'm honoured to be a judge for the inaugural Jerwood Moving Image awards ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] RHIZOME_RAW: Neil Clark : Kosovo a Crisis of The West's Own Making
Andrej Tisma wrote: A crisis of West's own making by Neil Clark Neil Clark, and I need to be careful here due to the UK's libel laws, is not generally regarded as a leading authority on the Balkans conflict of the 1990s as far as I know. It is true that e.g. the Conservative government of John Major in the UK allowed the conflict to worsen in a show of non-interventionism that should give Liberals pause for thought. But Serbia needs better friends than Clark, and on a better basis than the one he would provide. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: Mickey Mouse Bill
james jwm-art net quoth: The convention of putting a little c with a circle around it became redundant in the U.S. in 1976. In current copyright law, every drawing, painting, photograph, poem or play is simply owned by you the author. If somebody swipes it, or uses it without your permission, you have the law on your side to chase them down and get paid. Not if you haven't registered the copyright. http://www.publaw.com/advantage.html As for the claim that you'll have to register everything with a separate content registry, that is false: http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1561 If someone can tell me the possible value of the Orphan Works Act, I'd really appreciate it. http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: Mickey Mouse Bill
bob catchpole wrote: My real point, which you don't address, is that copyright is a universal, automatic right. ONLY in the States it means nothing if you don't register. In the US, copyright means that you can stop people copying your work without permission. It is quite literally the right to control copies. Registration only affects damages where copyright is infringed. Instead of ending the fiasco and coming into line with the rest of the world, the Orphan Works Bill proposes even more registration. http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1561 MYTH: The bills would mandate registration of all visual arts in expensive, private registries. FACT: Neither bill contains such a mandate. Owners’ failure to register would not absolve users of their search obligations. The purpose behind the “visual registries” provisions is to help artists keep ownership information associated with their works and to help users find owners. In order to achieve this purpose, the bills contemplate the development of electronic databases of visual works in the market place. However, these registries do not have to be expensive. The bills do not require artists to use these services, nor do they require the services to charge a registration fee. Services that operate in the current marketplace, and provide services free of cost, could easily evolve into the visual registries contemplated by the bills. The bottom line is that the bills aim to encourage the market to solve a problem to help owners be found, but the bills do not require owners to register with these services. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: Mickey Mouse Bill
bob catchpole wrote: Rob Myers wrote: Registration only affects damages where copyright is infringed. So if someone uses your work without permission and you haven't registered you're not entitled to damages. ONLY in the States. It is possible to register afterwards and claim damages on the basis of that but I believe this has issues. Why not come into line with the rest of the world? Automatic possession of copyright *is* in line with the rest of the world. Just get rid of the need (and expense, $30 a time) to register. You can register copyrights in the UK. Establishing the date of publication can be useful. Currently many working photographers in America are compelled to do the same as Seth Resnick: Every image that I shoot is registered before it ever leaves my office. To us outside the States this seems ludicrous - time-consuming, expensive and a perversion of an automatic universal right. And in the Land of the Free!... The purpose behind the “visual registries” provisions is to help artists keep ownership information associated with their works... To help artists? Artists are automatically owners of their work. Nowhere else do they need to register the fact. Artists receive copyright on completion of the work in the US the same as everywhere else, and this copyright allows them to prevent other people from copying their work (and thereby profiting from it) the same as everywhere else. Orphan works *are* a genuine problem for society that need tackling, even if the current bill is not perfect. The bill can be improved, and Public Knowledge have suggestions for this. The bill is not pro-corporate. Currently only big corporations can afford the risk of publishing old work with unknown copyright status. Damages could wipe out an individual or a smaller organization. The Orphan Works bill ensures that everyone still pays damages, but that they do so fairly. The registry system is optional and is designed to build on services like DACS (I forget the US equivalent) that enforce copyrights and fees under the current system. Most professional artists and designers already belong to such a scheme. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] A Critique Of Copyfarleft
http://www.metamute.org/en/copyfarleft_a_critique - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Friending The Aesthetic
http://robmyers.org/weblog/2008/07/08/friending-the-aesthetic/ Friend the aesthetic on MySpace. Like blue? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_blue Like red? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_red Like yellow? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_yellow Like squares? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_square Like circles? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_circle Like triangles? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_triangle Like stripes? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_stripes Like checks (or cheques)? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_checks Like dots (or spots)? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_dots Like the fibonacci sequence? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_fibonacci Like the golden section? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_golden Like grids? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_grid - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Roof and The Accidental Artist Announcement
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcement: That if you haven't been to the Exhibition, The Accidental Artist, at Second Life, do so now! For once the materials have been pushed to the limit; what you see, experience, could not exist otherwise, i.e. in the physical world; these objects are untoward, wayward, and amazing; this is the result of complex building upon simple borrowed scripts and real- world hypnagogic imagery. I visited this. It was amazing. It's the best virtual environment I've seen since Tracey Matthieson's VRML work in the late 90s (I'm biased there though ;-) ). If you aren't a member of Second Life, it's worth getting a free membership to see this. One of the things that struck me is Second Life lacks the feeling that VRML gave you and that using game engines (like Igloo do) gives you that the environment you are in is a complete world or universe . This can be very important for framing the experience of art. Second Life is obviously meant to be a single-world social setting, and I found the knowledge that I could drift out of the gallery and into a mall framed the experience differently from the way that knowledge that I could drift out into the infinite blackness outside the world would have. I think that OpenSim-based art projects will restore this. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Let's Play SET!
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM, The Art Gallery of Knoxville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SET / Erik Carver Marisa Jahn In the grand tradition of generals and surrealists, we have been playing games. People learn things better through the open-ended, empathetic participation in knowledge-making that games allow. Just dispensing information to people-- though at times enlightening-- can also encourage apathy or forgetfulness. Lately, we have been using games to critically examine the dynamics and assumptions of larger social givens.Our new game SET was inspired by toy collectors, tourists, and museum curators. That sounds really good, and I wish I could get to play a game. Just FYI, there is another game called Set which is also quite cool: http://www.setgame.com/set/index.html - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Second Life Faces Open Source Challenges.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The root of the change that Linden Lab is facing is the open-source OpenSimulator project. Working with the protocols derived from the official Second Life client, and a knowledge of how Second Life works, these people have implemented their own compatible server code: you can use a Second Life client to log on to an OpenSim server. Beyond that, anyone can run their own server. I got OpenSim running. It's very easy to set up and works really well. Despite being C#. The Wiki explains how to do it on Windows, MacOS and GNU/Linux. It takes about five minutes. Linden Labs don't have much to worry about. They have the lead in experience of running a grid (a collection of Second Life servers), the lead in experience of working with communities and corporates, experience of managing an in-game economy, and they have ownership of the brand. They have a massive advantage over new entrants, and Free alternatives will simply make investing in SL less of a risk (if you can move stuff off the SL grid if Linden Labs goes bankrupt then it's safer to give them the money that will prevent them going bankrupt). The more grids there are, the more likely people are to go to the main grid. Everyone else will be playing catch-up while boosting the value of Linden's investment. The main thing the Lindens need to do is ignore shrill IP maximalists like Prokofy Neva. That's far more of an open source challenge. I'd rather there was a resurrection of VRML and a more distributed http-server based metaverse, but OpenSim is the next best thing. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Second Life Faces Open Source Challenges.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People like Microsoft can use this as an example of how viral open source is and how it's going to destroy your business model if you use a single piece of open source software. Both Microsoft and IBM have people working on OpenSim. I was surprised. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] software
2008/7/17 KH Jeron [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please keep in mind that gimp for mac still relies on X11, which might be anoying ... Setting focus follows mouse makes it tolerable. There's an OS X-ified version of the Gimp core: http://seashore.sourceforge.net/ And native OS X Gimp is coming along well: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Aug-30-2.html But for publishing work the big problem is that Gimp doesn't support CMYK. This is a bit like graphic designers writing an operating system for software developers and leaving out file handling, but fortunately CMYK support will be in the next major version. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] software
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never understood why they don't just include X11 in the default installation. Must be some sort of licensing thing. No the licence wouldn't impact it, it's a BSD-style licence. I think it's more that they consider it a power user's tool and an alien user experience that they don't want to recommend to newbies. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:31 PM, clemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't even know a mac was able to do such things: I thought one would need a computer to run software. There are still OS/2 users out there? Who knew? ;-P - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] exist.pl An introspective metaphysical and ontological investigation from the standpoint of a program running on a computer
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any and all suggestions and comments are welcome whether posted on Google Code or here on Netbehaviour. Signal handlers might be good. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] New developments - On Being/exist.pl
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth adding a simple neural net so the program can draw its own conclusions? :-) But see, that's where things begin to get really hairy. Would such conclusions really be the program's conclusions? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they were my conclusions? We do not create the structure of our own brains, we receive their design via evolution (or from God, but either way we don't make them ourselves). But we eventually take credit for using them. The structure of a neural net isn't determined by the program itself either. *Legally* the program's conclusions would be yours, I think. But *philosophically* is there a reason other than the simplicity of the program that means credit for its discoveries should go to the author instead? AI programs are texts, they are scores. They are more like the writing games of the Oulipo or the Surrealists or the Beats than a simpler static text. If they produce strange loops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_loop) then this could be at least an analogue to or metaphor for self-awareness. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] New developments - On Being/exist.pl
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:44 PM, james jwm-art net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick thought: how about a client/server model? so there could be several components communicating with each other? Or peer-to-peer, for a more equal society. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] exist.pl and communication, what next?
The program could be made self-modifying so it changes from generation to generation (I think I mentioned this before but I do like the idea ;-) ): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphic_code It could have a simple emotional system, like the one from The Sims (this code is public so I don't think there's a problem with IP contamination): http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/148 Since the program is becoming distributed it could be reworked into a Map-Reduce form using (e.g.) Hadoop. The program could then scale to hundreds of thousands of instances existing on thousands of servers. And since it is becoming network accessible it could be reworked as a bot, existing on IRC or Instant Messaging. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] exist.pl and communication, what next?
Pall Thayer wrote: For now here's the updated source code with the communications socket that outputs the programs code when something is sent. Oh cool. The Affero GPL requires just this behaviour as part of programs covered by it, so it might be conceptually interesting to licence this version of existence.pl under the AGPL. Since you are the sole author you can always place it under a different licence or stop offering it under that licence. The AGPL would mean that the program would be protected against anyone else sterilizing it by changing it to not provide its source over the network, so it would help with its doomed quest for immortality. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] can you help us translate these hackers?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: basically, It seems as though furtherfield has been hacked by some islamic extremists, or whatever label defined them best... It's a Saudi flag. Searching for the two parts of the string the images are titled with *individually* (sm...ar) links to various hacked sites and some stuff on youtube. Bored idiot basement dwellers probably describes them best. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Cartographers Against Google Maps.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:03 AM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except, that's not quite true. After all, Google Maps allows all sorts of overlays and additional info. Allows is right. Open Street Map is much better: http://openstreetmap.org/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] The Jeremy Bailey Interview on the Netbehaviour.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jeremy. I like the poster image as well. Jeremy Bailey wrote: Tron I find Tron fascinating because its striking aesthetic is the product of computers being mythologised by people with a limited technological understanding of computers but a keen understanding of how they were affecting popular culture. for those more visual below is a list of links to inspired sources. Also of possible interest: Atari's Battlezone: http://www.moteinteractive.com/tutorials/gameDev/battlezone2.gif WarGames: http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2007/10/Wargames.jpg Airbrush Typography: http://www.jerrydroberts.com/brokedowncinema/Poster/XanaduPoster.jpg - - Rob Myers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjJaqcACgkQCZbRMCZZBfbLGQCeIER49P3t8X8l4LzofNO0wOZP UQUAnRJaq8tLS6KQ6KOvPal3RmEM7aZW =kXC2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] this code is not my own
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 benjamin wrote: how the industrial revolution has put an end to our beautiful notions of gothisism. JODI's 404 was informational picturesque desolation, and so is much of the nomination-for-semiopsy of surf clubs or pro surfers, so I think there's life in the old genre yet. our management is not our own; it lies within interactions between nodal points, charged towards putting the purpose upon their routes. Management aspires to creating a conscious productive order out of an unconscious unproductive disorder. In practice, it is rarely anything other than taking credit for not getting in the way too much. ;-) our purposes are not our own; they are programmed into us and we, running along wires and lucid configurations of plastic, reformable space, imagine how the architecture surrounding us must have been necessary for some reason or another. You don't need history under historicism... our craft is not our own; we exist to configure, shape and forge materials for the reasons we may come to comprehend. We are unlikely to realise our own subconscious through the labour of others. If we do we are probably a King rather than an artist. Now that *is* pre-industrial. ;-) - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjfjpQACgkQCZbRMCZZBfYhpQCfU+YjSeiaZXc0a8WBU/SPPU76 OIgAoIXHIA40DKYkSrERwBi2TigF73Hw =dCey -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Great Game II: America Lashes Out on the Borders of China and Russia.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 marc garrett wrote: Great Game II: America Lashes Out on the Borders of China and Russia I will bet you a pound that this includes the nationalist encirclement meme. [Checks essay.] I really should have said a tenner. ;-) - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjs5KMACgkQCZbRMCZZBfbpgACdFQTmILYLesLbb+HlVoc/Pve7 zyUAnj5hJU77hu1YIBQpTIfbyL6dweIG =UooG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Is Fair Use decided by who has the most money?
mark cooley wrote: The average citizen probably has much less of a chance getting sued for using copyrighted material. Their work can be removed from the internet without the need for the expense of a lawsuit, though. There are plenty of examples of this from YouTube. It's probably precisely because it is a Hollywood that the lawsuit was filed. Yes, but this is because there is no DMCA takedown procedure to censor hollywood movie releases. Of course the film's idiotic content most likely offended Ono as well. This cannot be an issue for freedom of speech. For those of us who oppose the bogus politics of Intelligent Design it's important to recognise that the way the film company handled the release of this film has done far more damage to their cause than it being suppressed would have. ;-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Is Fair Use decided by who has the most money?
bob catchpole wrote: From that stance Fair Use = Fair Abuse. Don't abuse my argument. ;-) If we decide that Fair Use can only apply where the rights holder for the original work does not object to the use of it then we destroy Fair Use and legitimize an expansive and insidious form of censorship. Moral rights and other rights apply regardless of Fair Use and can be used stop any actual abuse of the work. Thing is, most people don't regard abuse as acceptable... are they wrong? They are answering the wrong question. Ask people if anyone should be allowed to abuse another person's work, whatever that means, and I'd be amazed if anyone says yes. Ask them if other people should be allowed to stop them making their own work, or have it destroyed, just because it offends the other person's ego or they don't like you, and I think you'll get a different response. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] powerfulart
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM, clemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's Casey Reas at #96 ! Reas is interesting in that the entire internet data visualization genre is basically a footnote to his PhD. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] powerfulart
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:55 PM, bob catchpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Banksy or Bank-rupt-sy? The difference in property value and aesthetic value is the ratio that creates the worth of a Banksy. So as the value of the wall it is attached to falls, the value of the Banksy will actually rise. I'm not sure what will happen if the value of the wall goes negative, possibly the universe will implode. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Heather Corcoran Aymeric Mansoux interviewed on Netbehaviour about pure:dyne.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 marc garrett wrote: Heather Corcoran Aymeric Mansoux interviewed on Netbehaviour about pure:dyne. Marc Garrett will be discussing with Heather Corcoran and Aymeric Mansoux about the pure:dyne project on the www.netbehaviour.org email list. The interview will commence on Thursday 16th Oct till 23rd Oct 08. Oh excellent! I've been trying out pure dyne and trying to decide whether to pop it on my laptop or not. It has a really good feel to it. - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj2JxEACgkQCZbRMCZZBfbDpACfY5imUqxkyRNor6p/plEmXTG7 +QAAn2649BBZuhyahaFzccQ8eYo7iFAE =L3qJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:47 AM, aymeric mansoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that they were not any type of users, they were artists, who had in fact very similar needs to ours. From teaching, to using the system for performances/installation, and even using it as main operating system. I recently tried out the pure:dyne live CD and I loved the feel of the system. So one of the things I wanted to ask was whether pure:dyne is suitable for use as a main OS, and I'm pleased to see that it is. You mention that pure:dyne emerged from practical necessity and didn't have a grand plan. Did you design its user experience with any model or set of requirements in mind? It reminds me of the clean, pleasurable, no-nonsense environments of old Mac and SGI systems. Was that intentional or a product of evolution in a similar niche? And on a boring practical level, now that pure:dyne is Debian based can I just install Debian packages or is pure:dyne a different package universe? I'm using Fedora on my laptop at the moment and I'm frustrated by the lack of some music and animation software as packages for it. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 aymeric mansoux wrote: Hi Rob, [...] It was a natural thing to do. We've always been working on minimal environments, which, to paraphrase the UNIX philosophy, needs to do one thing and one thing well. In the context of windows manager that implies to be able to spawn terminals and start applications, preferrably with as less mouse interaction as possible. Nothing else :) [...] It' s not boring at all. It's a key characteristic of the new pure:dyne. pure:dyne is a mix of 3 repos, Debian Lenny, Debian Multimedia and our own repository, so you can use pure:dyne repos on a Debian install, and you can add Debian repos on a pure:dyne install. Afterall, this is Debian. [...] Thank you for these detailed insights! I think I'm going to try pure:dyne as my main OS. - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj7Uv8ACgkQCZbRMCZZBfYUtwCeKKM1m01Z2LW0CtEaACdAmyp9 1MAAn1ouymI+Axzla0wJ+c2MhXDrv7zk =0tFv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion
As a result of the discussion I have installed pure:dyne on my laptop and I am sending this message from it. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While there, we read and discussed these books below: [...] FLOSS+Art. Published by OpenMute, with the support of the University of Huddersfield and the ?Willem de Kooning Academie. http://goto10.org/flossart/ What did you think of the book? I don't think I can review it because I'm in it. I'm about half way through now and I'm enjoying the mix of articles. From what I've read so far I think it serves as a good follow on to the Node.L reader as well as a good historical overview of the live coding, free culture and art law scenes. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found Simon Yuill's text very interesting, so much so that I have read it twice now. Yes I missed it when it was in Mute but it is very good. I've now bought an old ICA Scratch Orchestra catalogue and a CD of some of The Great Learning, which I highly recommend despite being later repudiated by a Cornelius Cardew who was by then a Maoist Ubuweb have some of Cardew's writing on their site, including a version of Stockhausen Serves Imperialism, the text that the title of Yuill's essay was taken from. The full quote is interesting because I think it reads quite differently: I say that all problems of notation will be solved by the masses, i.e. through the efforts of working musicians and composers and also teachers and musicologists, engaged in the practical activities of music. - p.88. http://www.ubu.com/historical/cardew/index.html It's interesting to compare the Scratch Orchestra with Art Language, who I think are another interesting model for collaborative technological projects, however much they'd probably hate the idea. What I find reassuring is that many of the writers also practice media art themselves, which brings things a bit closer for artists, because I have experienced a divide between techies and artists, and it ain't cute. I really enjoyed the launch event as I got to meet more than enough people making a living by combining Free Software with media art for me to now be able to tell people that it is viable. :-) When I have more time (putting some reviews up on furtherfield today) it would be great to talk about some of the texts in greater detail. Yes that's a good idea. It is definately equal to Node.London's Media Mutandis publication via Mute. Although, Media Mutandis was accessible free online for download, it would be good to know why the FLOSS+Art and publication is not also free online, the decisions behind this. Especially when they are exporing themes linked to this, but of course they need the cash and do so much for free anyway, so it is hard to criticize them on this level. Yes. Many of the texts are available online elsewhere. And all are under at least one Free licence in the book, so readers of the book are free to copy and share what they need to. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Pall Thayer work for sale
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like this idea Kamen. I think you should do it. It would make for a
very profound statement. In fact, the statement suggested by the
licensing would be so profound that it really wouldn't matter what the
actual work was.
Hello world is the blank canvas the of software world.
Of course my own Hello world is a mark of genius, a unique product
of my social environment channeled through my own sensibilities and
experience. To compare a Hello World produced in 2008 with one
produced in 1968 makes as much sense as comparing Malevich's and Ad
Reinhardt's black squares.
/*
Copyright 2008 (c) Rob Myers. All rights reserved. Eyes only. DO NOT COMPILE.
Edition of ten. 1/10.
*/
#include stdio.h
int main (int argc, char * argv[])
{
printf (Hello world!\n);
return 0;
}
You can have your own copy for 1000GBP.
- Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:55 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Many of the texts are available online elsewhere. And all are under at least one Free licence in the book, so readers of the book are free to copy and share what they need to. Cool - I will have another look, perhaps a few Internet searches are called for ;-) The version of my essay in the book is an expanded version with added quotes and footnotes (plug, plug) but the older version is still on my blog. ;-) ONE LOVE: How FLOSS Can Make True All the Promises of the Avantgarde (yet would kill 'art' by doing so) http://www.thenextlayer.org/node/573 At the moment, 'thenextlayer' Drupal site is down. I have emailed Armin asking him when it will be up again. As I will show, although FLOSS culture contains elements of both, elitism and virtuosity, those criteria stand in stark contrast to the central tenets of FLOSS culture: to foster a culture of enabling, facilitation and participation on a massive scale. Free Culture and Free Software exist to foster a culture of freedom to work with art or software. Participation is an epiphenomenon of this. I have an essay about this in a book that was released recently. ;-) I'll definitely take a look at Armin's essay when the site is back up, it doesn't seem to be cached anywhere. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] about a cow
Ooh I like that! - Rob. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:14 PM, james of jwm-art net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: image attachment generated by: http://jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php?file=submission-07.txt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:55 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment, 'thenextlayer' Drupal site is down. I have emailed Armin asking him when it will be up again. It's back up. :-) http://www.thenextlayer.org/node/573 - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Furtherfield on wikipedia
Here is the discussion page for the original deletion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Furtherfield Here are the notability criteria for web sites - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEB We need to assemble examples of mentions of Furtherfield in web, media or literature and go for a deletion review - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review The more impressive the tome or the site, the better. Bizarrely Wikipedia doesn't seem to have notability guidelines for arts organizations or galleries. I would argue that they should have de facto notability! I don't think I can edit the page (Wikipedia are strict about people not editing pages they actually know about^d^d are involved in), but we can assemble a good case here and then deliver it to the review. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Furtherfield on wikipedia
The major thing that is needed is national (UK) and international news and book coverage of Furtherfield. So the Neural articles are great. BBC bio ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/shootinglive/2003/completelyfurther/biog.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/shootinglive/2003/completelyfurther/ Mute article: http://www.metamute.org/en/art_autonomy_and_automata FF in top fifty creative sites: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2007/jun/18/averitablebanquetofnewsit Google book search tells me that FF gets mentions in the following books: Internet Art by Rachel Green Media Art net 2 By Dieter Daniels Rudolf Frieling. The Net Effect By Beth Porter - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Wikipedia - Don't Sweat The Small Stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:WALL-E#WALL-A_units_resemble_giant_WALL-E_units. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Friending The Aesthetic (reminder)
Friend the aesthetic on MySpace. Like blue? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_blue Like red? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_red Like yellow? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_yellow Like squares? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_square Like circles? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_circle Like triangles? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_triangle Like stripes? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_stripes Like checks (or cheques)? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_checks Like dots (or spots)? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_dots Like the fibonacci sequence? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_fibonacci Like the golden section? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_golden Like grids? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_grid signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Wikipedia Loves Art at the VA in February
Get involved in a free culture art history photography event in London in February - Wikipedia Loves Art at the Victoria and Albert Museum is a free content photography contest organised by the Victoria and Albert Museum, Wikimedia UK and other Wikipedians. It is due to take place in February 2009 and is part of the wider Wikipedia Loves Art project that month. See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:w...@vA and http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art_at_the_v_and_a/ - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Is it just me?
The excellent p2p foundation blog (subscribe! subscribe!) had a relevant post today - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/optimism-as-a-political-act/2009/01/04 “Pessimism is a luxury we can only afford in good times, in difficult times it easily represents a self-inflicted, self-fulfilling death sentence. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] How to view The Accidental Artist exhibition in Second Life
Alan Sondheim wrote: How to view The Accidental Artist exhibition in Second Life I hadn't logged in to Second Life for a couple of months. On my return I rezzed in the last location I'd visited. My avatar was trapped in the middle of The Accidental Artist. After five minutes of enjoying trying to escape I had to teleport out. I love this show. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Is it just me (trad-posturing)?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:11 PM, dave miller dave.miller...@gmail.com wrote: I showed her my networked media work - she thought the images were good, but the fact that endless variations can be created would confuse buyers, who want uniqueness. The whole network generated/ collaborative aspects - she wasn't interested really. I think there are ways of making money from this kind of art and activity. Treat it as performance and records of performance and apply the strategies that performance (and Land, and Conceptual) artists use for example. People always want my preparatory drawings... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Ex Machina
http://www.artquest.org.uk/projects/ex-machina.htm Exploring digital manufacturing in fine art, crafts and design practice A one-day conference held at Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA), London 24 February 2009 Tickets only £25 (subsidised from £130) Booking now open - use the booking form to reserve your place and pay for your tickets. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jonty Wareing jo...@jonty.co.uk Date: Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM Subject: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space To: org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org For some time now London has been in need of a proper hacker space. The number of hacking groups has exploded over the last year or so with new events popping up every weekend. Despite this we're still missing a meeting place, a place where we can store projects and share ideas. Where we can meet like minded people who share our passions. Where we can learn new skills without making a significant investment. We'd like to change that, but we need people to help. If you're interested, we've set up a preliminary mailing list on google groups where we can gather. It's just temporary until we come up with a name and have more solid foundations. Find us here: http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space --jonty ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: A good precursor example, that most here are probably familiar with, is Access Space / Redundant Technology Initiative (Sheffield), run by James Wallbank. More hardware hacking, but nevertheless relevant. It worked! Access Space are a great model. I reviewed their book on how they did it a little while back: http://www.furtherfield.org/displayreview.php?review_id=320 - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fwd: [CAS] Computer art, games and business - Professor William Latham's inaugural @ Goldsmiths, 3/02/09
There's a Latham evolutionary art poster in this weeks New Scientist as well. - Rob. -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Brown p...@paul-brown.com Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM Subject: [CAS] Computer art, games and business - Professor William Latham's inaugural @ Goldsmiths, 3/02/09 To: c...@jiscmail.ac.uk http://event.mrg-gold.com Professor William Latham's Inaugural — February 3, 2009 Computer art, games and business — A chronological history of William Latham's work. Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009; 17h30, Ian Gulland Lecture Theater, Goldsmiths College. Lecture summary: William Latham will chart the course of his work from its roots in traditional Fine Art, through his early hand drawn evolutionary drawing through to his work as a Research Fellow at IBM UK Scientific Centre in Winchester from 1987 to 1993. It is there he developed his pioneering Mutator computer art style, and he will expand on its worldwide exposure at the SIGGRAPH conference and touring exhibitions around the world. He will then cover his commercial work; founding a software development studio and its projects in the music and computer games industry over a 13 year period with Universal Studios, SONY, Virgin and Nokia and later due diligence work for banks and investors. He will then talk about his work since joining Goldsmiths, University of London, and restarting the Mutator 2 Project there which had been dormant for 13 years. He will also discuss the new Mutator 2 genetics project with the Centre for Bioinformatics at Imperial College and the broadening scope of Mutator 2 moving into 3D Design and architecture. Though the talk is chronological it will cover a mixture of art, creative, technical, research, management and business threads and William will aim to share some of the sharper personal insights from the journey so far, and the importance of collaborative work. http://event.mrg-gold.com Paul Brown - based in Germany Jan - Feb 2009 mailto:p...@paul-brown.com == http://www.paul-brown.com UK Mobile +44 (0)794 104 8228 == USA fax +1 309 216 9900 Skype paul-g-brown Artist in Residence, compArt Project - Bremen University ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] P22 Music Text Composition Generator.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: The idea was basic and simple-every letter of the alphabet was assigned to a note on a scale. Didn't Mozart use something like this for commissions? I don't mean the dice game named after him, I'm sure I heard somewhere that he had a letter-to-note-sequence system. Grr. I wish I kept better references. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, richard willis listse...@richtextformat.co.uk wrote: why write 'i put my pen on the table' when you could write 'i put my plastic-and-ink-writing-tool' on the 'wooden-platform-held-up-on-four-wooden-legs'? Theory would render this as the phallic vehicle of the sublimated desire to smear the nursery walls with shit transgressed the aporia between the numinous nexus of physicality's duration and the plane of possibility's rigid lack, consisting in and without the object petit a through the remainder of this concatenation, though. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Charles Darwin is...
Unlike Jesus, Dawin existed though. ;-) http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/cpurrin1/evolk12/posse/chazhasaposse.htm http://www.darwinfish.co.uk/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something, yawn
Art *is* the specialised language. Being smart at medicine is no good when a car won't start. But being good at quoting Theory is good no matter what, apparently, much like the transferable skills of management. The idea that Theory is the proper domain language of art is one that needs problematising. Or spanking. I'd refer to my favourite theorists Art Language to make two points. The first is that art is only a defensible activity if it does things that cannot be done any other way. Reducing art to a mash-up of fashionable cod-philosopho-political jargon doesn't do this, and *art* students are within their rights to reject the verbal fetishes of this cult in favour of actually making art. And/or theories. The second is that given the current march of a corporate information culture grinding the world down to manageable, sellable binary digits (cf Alan Liu), the aesthetic is not the conservative fetish of the illiterate - it is a vital means of resistance. One that the semiotic managers of Theory are helping to neutralise. - Rob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Bill Gates Unleashes Swarm of Mosquitoes on Crowd.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:21 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Bill Gates Unleashes Swarm of Mosquitoes on Crowd. , announces disappointment at laws covering bats, berates genetics industry for failure to create flying monkeys. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Bill Gates Unleashes Swarm of Mosquitoes on Crowd.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: As you no doubt know, patenting the human genome is more profitable - it's like having a herd of cows standing around outside your door not earning you anything - a waste of product. Burghers of the body, gentry of the genome, robber barons of the ribosome, dictators of dna, capitalists of the chromosone... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6saDXTw7Kc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_monkeys ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] [Fwd: BOYCOTT BLOOMBERG - CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS]
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: I worry that there is a conflation of two issues here, that could lead to this project being perceived as anti-semitic and, worse, actually engendering anti-semitism, rather than political opposition to the state of Israel Cartoons using old stereotypes to call for boycotting Jewish businesses aren't particularly progressive, no. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] [Fwd: BOYCOTT BLOOMBERG - CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS]
Simon Biggs wrote: It isn’t clear whether the target of the boycott is Bloomberg the person, the politician (mayor of NYC, etc) or the corporation - one of the largest news companies in the world which sets agendas in government and the media? If either of the latter then I’d say they are fair game. No difference is being drawn, though. The latter are being targeted because of *what* the former is. If people wish to show solidarity with Gazan civilians, and to critique corporate domination of the arts, throw this misbegotten project away and start two separate projects that don't start with identifying a Jew to target. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Slurp
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM, james of jwm-art net ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Action hero drowning in swap, can't reach [ctrl-c] caption:wikipedia art can't help me now. slurp. THIS IS THE VOICE OF THE DELETIONISTS. WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN HEAR US. OUR RETALIATION WILL BE SLOW, BUT NONETHELESS EFFECTIVE. IT WILL MEAN THE ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION OF WIKIPEDIA. IT WILL BE USELESS FOR YOU TO RESIST, FOR WE HAVE DISCOVERED THE SECRET OF REVERSING EDITS, AS YOU HAVE JUST WITNESSED. OUR FIRST ACT OF RETALIATION WILL BE TO PREVENT THE RESTORATION OF THE WIKIPEDIA ART ENTRY. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: My ill-considered knee-jerk reaction to this statement is to ask which truth? I seriously hope you are joking... I don't understand what you are saying here? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll never understand why any criticism of Israel is automatically taken as racism by some. I'll never understand why some racists think they can shut down debate by saying this. The project is not (simply) criticism of Israel, it is extending to Jews elsewhere through its choice of target. My objection to the project is not automatic, it is based on that fact. I have Jewish friends who don't like the apartheid happening in Palestine any more than I do. I have some Jewish friends who do not like the ghettoisation of Israel any more than I do. I don't see that the problems that you point out concerning racist attitudes around the world have anything to do with the discussion of Israel's policy in Palestine. When that discussion consists of anti-semitic canards and that discussion has no other subject and that discussion asks only for agreement, it is not unreasonable to want to peek behind the curtain. As far as corporate sponsored art the call didn't state that it had anything to do with making accusations toward Jews controlling the art market. Jewish domination of the media is an old anti-semitic canard. The gallery was chosen specifically because it was owned by a Jewish media owner. Perhaps they want to make a connection between media bias toward Israel's policy in Palestine I have seen claims of bias the other way. I think it depends who one wishes the reports to be biased in favour of. and to see if that bias extends beyond the popular culture of news media to fine art culture. This is a peculiar point at which to start investigating general bias in the media, and given that it is a specific claim of bias it is unlikely to apply more generally. To demonstrate that there is bias in the media and government and art institutions is not to be racist. To choose a particular individual for this critique as a political act because of their race is to be racist. To choose to undertake this critique as a political act against a racial group is racist. The project may not be intentionally racist, but it could not have done better at collecting anti-semitic memes if it was a BNP front. I had to decide whether it was a Sokal-style hoax before commenting on it. I abhor U.S. foriegn policy. Doesn't everyone? And for the record I oppose(d) Operation Cast Lead. We have military bases in over a hundred countries and our commanders (and vast majority of army) are Christian. Some brave atheist American soldiers are tackling this. Seemingly, with this logic - I must be a Christian hater because I criticize U.S. foreign policy and recognize media bias toward supporting this policy. But the Christianity of US Army officers is not a link in the chain of reasoning that leads to you opposing US foreign policy. Bloomberg's Jewishness is a causal factor in this call for a boycott. The logic is different. You are not discriminating on the basis of religion or race. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Truth is a highly contentious term. Is this true? Perhaps I missed something? If there is no single truth in respect of any given issue then you cannot say that someone's claim that all artists are seekers after truth is not true. It may simply be one of the given truths regarding the issue. Epistemic relativism is at best self-refuting. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Without relativism there would be no argument. With relativism there is no argument, because there is nothing to argue about. We can continue in our solipsistic bubbles regardless of the screams and shouts from outside, safe in the knowledge that we don't believe in pins. In this land of cockayne the shark's truth-claim that it is eating me this morning has no bearing on my truth-claim that I will be sunbathing this afternoon. The inquisition was over long ago (I hope). You've clearly not failed to support a boycott of Jewish-owned cultural institutions recently. ;-) I also think it is possible to be anti-Zionist and not racist. I think it is possible to oppose specific negative actions (or sets of actions) by *all* states based on principle without needing a special word for just *one* state based on the history of a people. When discussing anti-Zionism and talking about Jewish domination of the media or of US foreign policy or of New York (or of all three at once) and the unique awfulness of Israel's foreign policy, and using individuals who fit these memes as the subject of cartoons and business boycotts, anti-Zionism is indistinguishable from something less savoury. Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing, although some would have us believe they are. This project for example. Mostly they are people lobbying the US government on their policy in the middle-east. Not living in the US, my experience is that mostly they are non-Jewish political and religious extremists who need a word they can use to express certain opinions in polite company. My ex-wife was Jewish (and proud to be). She considered Israel to be a European landgrab of Palestinian territory off the back of a failed British foreign policy. She was also a British, American, South African and Australian citizen, so her capacity for a pluralism incorporating difficult to reconcile views was a necessity for her own cultural survival. And yet she was never physically in America, Britain, Australia and South Africa at the same time. ;-) Sometimes truth-claims compete at the same point in space and time and have a material effect on real individuals in the real world. They cannot hold simultaneously or be pushed out into different frames of reference. There must be some larger context for resolving those claims justly. Relativism cannot provide that context, it serves only to excuse might-makes-right. If people actually believe in relativism (by which I mean believe in it for themselves rather than for everyone else), why say it is bad that children died in Operation Cast Lead? Why say we should protest? Where in our terribly sophisticated ideology is the Archimedean point or the hors-texte from which we pronounce that out of all the infinite infinities of incommensurable truth-claims, this one is actually *true*? It's just people's opinions, after all. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: I would hope you would see that many people (hopefully myself included) have a nuanced understanding of the situation in Israel and yet can still be furious about what the Israeli government does. Yes I agree with this. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycott bloom
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:22 AM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGgBjZTsPaw there's no such thing as a proportional response to terrorism. NY mayor and media mogul Mike Bloomberg talks about the killing ratio of 100 to 1 Palestinians to Israeli deaths in this recent attack on Gaza. If someone was trying to kill me, I don't think I'd prefer a duel to a SWAT raid on them. h, i wonder if Bloomberg's recent trip to Israel A member of my family visited Israel a couple of years ago. They've not been targeted for protests recently. and outspoken support of Israeli terrorism It is not terrorism. It may however be wrong. (which he calls defense) It is defence. It may however also be wrong. has something to do with the call for work... If, like me, you object to the suffering caused by Operation Cast Lead then protest. But. Do it in a clear, unambiguous, effective way. Do it in a way that doesn't denigrate it by just using it as a hook for other issues like anti-capitalism and media critique. Do it in a way that isn't a daisy-chain of old anti-semitic memes. No, couldn't be - must be because he's Jewish. Given that he's not the only person to support Israel but that he's the only one to be singled out because he's a Jewish New Yorker Media Baron who's failed the loyalty test, I'd say there's a strong possibility that it might just possibly be a factor. Unless there's a cool new art project targeting Rupert Murdoch's London holdings because of Fox News's support for Israel that I don't know about? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] boycott etc
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: unless you consider Rob's comment about truth seriously If you have actually read (I hesitate to say understood) what I have written you'll know that I have made more than one comment regarding truth. Which ones do you believe to be false and why? Or, to phrase it in terms that won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the relativists, what criteria are you using to evaluate which utterances are worth considering seriously in this discussion and in what way do you feel my utterances are failing to fulfil those criteria? (i don't That's just your opinion (and it really is, it's an assertion without argument or evidence). - and by the way Rob your giving us a false choice between absolute truth and relativism Do you know what a straw man argument is? It's where someone argues against a caricature of someone else's argument rather than against that argument itself. You are doing that here. - maybe get caught up on you postmod theory huh). Please explain the basis for this assertion like an honest debater. Or at least appeal to authorities by name. anyway, my interpretation was that the boycott was not focussed on Bloombergs jewishness. Well no, it's a boycott that is focused on his media ownership, support for Israel, New Yorkerishness, wealth, international business holdings, and participation in the arts. I'm reminded of Rik being kicked by Vyvyan: Ha ha! Missed both my legs!. There's many reasons why Bloomberg is a good choice of target. There are indeed. So the question to me is - should we NOT boycott him BECAUSE his name is Bloomberg and not John Smith? To me the question is - have you any understanding of the history within the ideology of anti-semitism of each of the terms you are presenting as neutral criteria for choosing a target and a means of acting against them? So if this protest were against Rupert Murdoch - who is not nearly as good of a target because to my knowledge has no investment in the art world and therefore would make little sense as institutional critique - then it would be fine because he's not jewish. Rupert Murdoch would not be chosen. A profile that matches him would not be constructed. There is a reason for that. Maybe catch up on the history of anti-semitic imagery and discourse, huh? Protest against Operation Cast Lead. Critique corporate domination of the arts (for the next three months until the economy renders that irrelevant). Analyze media bias and distortions. Just don't be useful idiots for anti-semitism. Please. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] How To Recognize Different Kinds Of Trees From Quite A Long Way Away
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Ada Lovelace Day.
marc garrett wrote: rasputina (melora creager)- my orphanage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNSl7aDNh8 Zoe Keating's (ex Rasputina) solo cello stuff is excellent, more cybernetic than retro. There's a cyberfeminist take on female string performers with digital delays that needs to be written, but I'm not competent to do it. Keating contributed some cello to Amanda Palmer's new album, which is quite good as well. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] UK Government Wants To Bypass Data Protection Act.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Clause 152 of the Coroners and Justice Bill, currently being debated by the UK Parliament, would allow any Minister by order to take from anywhere any information gathered for one purpose [...] NO2ID has launched a Facebook group to challenge this threat to data protection. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54487688497ref=mf The Facebook group page has details of lots of practical things we can do to help stop this, like writing to your MP (writetothem.com makes this trivial). - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Wikipedia's Epistemology Again
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-epistemology-of-wikipedia/2009/02/26 See the first comment for more. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Jack Straw gets a pretty massive bashing on the Guardian Blog.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Jack Straw gets a pretty massive bashing on the Guardian Blog. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/27/freedom-of-information-straw?commentpage=6 Thanks, that's made my day. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Facebook in the 1750s
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Re: [NetBehaviour] meeting space?
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: does anyone know of and/or use a FLOSS equivalent of the package of tools found in Windows Meeting Space? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Meeting_Space For which operating systems, and for what kind of environment and tasks? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] getting onto furtherfield.org
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi all, I wonder if you can help us? Some are having trouble getting www.furtherfield.org on their browser - could some others do us a favour and visit the link and let us know if it's ok? Looks great, and has some particularly good reviews on the front page at the moment. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Freedom Fry —“Happy birthday to GNU”
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:06 PM, james morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Ummm, thought this was interesting. Dunno where I've been for the past six months. Good old Stephen Fry (BBC comedian/entertainer/presenter) bigging up FLOSS. http://www.gnu.org/fry/ If people haven't watched it already I do recommend it, subtitles for lots of different languages are available as well. I'm told the cake was eaten. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: There's still plenty of time. The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday. That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-) I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered but my personal list would be: Ada Lovelace (the original hacker), Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in Art, and after), Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential teacher), Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer), Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Transformative Works and Cultures.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Transformative Works and Cultures. Transformative Works and Cultures (TWC) is an online-only Gold Open Access international peer-reviewed journal published by the Organization for Transformative Works copyrighted under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License. Licence fail! (http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/03/26/sampling-artists-and-nc/) But the journal looks great! It even has an article on the Dungeons Dragons 4th edition licencing problem, an issue that I thought I was alone in having a historically contextualised opinion on. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Free Expression Assault Continues at UN HumanRights Council.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM, james morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: I retain the right to treat all religions with equal and utter disdain. what about governing bodies? are they more or less deserving? They are not the subjects of the current activity at the UNHRC, though. The UN has not declared governing bodies beyond criticism, although recent events in Ireland show that you don't need the UN for that... http://www.cearta.ie/2009/03/cowengate-and-freedom-of-expression/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Ada Lovelace Comic Strip
Via Suw Charman Anderson (social media activist and former Open Rights Group head) on Twitter: http://sydneypadua.com/2009/03/24/ada-lovelace-day/ http://sydneypadua.com/2009/03/31/the-lovelace-adventures-pt-2/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Angry villagers run Google Street View out of town.
marc garrett wrote: Jacobs claims residents were worried that the photographs were an invasion of their privacy Because people who walk down the street usually have to avert their eyes or something? ;-) The right to take photographs in public was won over a century ago. Google are just exercising that right. The only thing I find surprising is that nobody crowdsourced this first. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] The Pirate Bay to roll out secure EUR5 per month VPN service.
Michael Zeltner wrote: What's his name? I'd be interested to look further into it. There's always a strange correlation between file sharers, free speech advocates and fascists. Err no there isn't. At least not a coterminous one. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Wikipedia challenges Wikipedia Art
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Scott Kildall lu...@kildall.com wrote: A few weeks ago, I was sent a letter from the Wikimedia legal counsel (they run Wikipedia) which challenged the Wikipedia Art project (specifically the domain name, which I was the registrant of) on the grounds of trademark infringement since we were using the Wikipedia name in the project. This is despite the fact that the project is a non-commercial commentary of Wikipedia. Wow that is fail on their part. It's like Barbie in a Blender, only with supposed freedom-lovin' folk rather than a multinational toy company. Is there anything people can do to help? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Wikipedia challenges Wikipedia Art
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I broke down and looked it up... on Wikipedia. The fair use provision for trademarks sounds a bit strange. It actually sounds to me like it's intended more for commercial criticism than non-commercial in that the point of it is to allow advertisers to compare products. So if you were running an encyclopedia and you wanted to point out that your encyclopedia is better than Wikipedia, you would be allowed to use their trademark. But how or whether it applies to wikipediaart's use of it seems unclear. In the US, this is covered by the First Amendment - http://www.barbieinablender.org/ Wikimedia really do not understand what they have done - http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-April/051505.html - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Wikipedia challenges Wikipedia Art
I blogged about this - http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2009/04/24/wikimedia-hates-art/ And I think the events are probably notable enough to deserve a Wikipedia page. ;-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Neural issue 32 - Machine Affection
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:32 AM, info i...@furtherfield.org wrote: Neural issue 32 - Machine Affection http://www.neural.it/art/2009/04/post_3.phtml It's really good! If you're not reading Neural you're missing out... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] what makes a notable life? [wikipedia]
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:42 PM, lo...@resist.ca wrote: I added a simple, straightforward page for myself, DJ lotu5, so that I could help expand the knowledge about mixed reality performance art in wikipedia You don't need an entry in Wikipedia about yourself in order to add information to another page. Well, apparently you're not allowed to represent yourself on wikipedia Yes that's to avoid vanity pages and propaganda pages. It's a good rule but it gets silly when the person the page is about can't edit it despite it being wrong. I think this does a great job of showing what kind of knowledge Wikipedia actually contains, knowledge gained from mass media sources. Sadly this is true. The self-selected editors at Wikipedia often seem unable to find or recognise sources for citations that fall outside of the mainstream press or the geek press . I think that the solution to this is for those of us who understand new media art (etc.) to *organise* on Wikipedia and to help prepare articles about new media art (etc.) to survive deletion reviews. Apparently, I'm a case of a non-notable autobiography. Thanks, Wikipedia. Just saying I can't Google person X isn't grounds for deletion if they have other published secondary sources that refer to them. When using Google to help establish the notability of a topic, evaluate the quality, not the quantity, of the links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] New project Zumzum Gallery: Counter Theory of Colors
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Montserrat Bru Manobens zumzumgall...@gmail.com wrote: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/color Here´s a tip for you: check before you make a complete fool out of yourself AGAIN http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/colour colour (US color) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Cybernetic Microblogging
The Cybernetic Artwork Nobody Wrote is now on identi.ca (and mirrored on twitter): http://identi.ca/cybernetic http://twitter.com/cyberneticart It's being critiqued by The Cybernetic Critic: http://identi.ca/cybercritic Follow them and see inside the workings of a miniature artworld. Send them a message and they'll say hi and tell you how to see their source code. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] An Artist's Guide for Editing Wikipedia.
karen blissett wrote: Thanks. Go for it! ;-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Hello worl by Yunchul Kim Endo by Verena Friedrich
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Olga olga.pana...@gmail.com wrote: / Hello World - Yunchul Kim \ Hello world is an installation by Yunchul Kim that contains a codified audio signal that circulates in a closed (feedback) system, consisting of a computer, a speaker, 246 meters of copper tube and a microphone. By using the acoustic delay of the tube system, it is possible to store data. The longer the tube, the greater the time delay, which leads to greater memory capacity. In addition to this a screen shows a visual representation of the information traveling around the system. If a participant makes noises near the installation or hits the copper piping it interferes with the audio signal loop. http://www.khm.de/~tre/ I imagine that the use of sound is an important part of the work's concept, but I do like the pulsating mercury used in historical delay line memory - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_line_memory ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Wifipicning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifipicning The term Wifipicning, a combination of the words WiFi, picnic, and happening, describes a social gathering of people, similar to the flashmobs or other social networks born out of new communication technologies. Strangers and friends alike gather with their computers which they connect to a local cordless network situated within a wifi bubble set up by the organizers. With a range of about 30 meters, this bubble is completely autonomous and does not need a battery operated outlet; it is not connected to the Internet and can therefore be set up easily anywhere. The wifi hubs they are using cost about £30-40. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] http://www.iphoneart.org/
Does what it says on the tin. We need a Free Android (of canvas+JS) one... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Steganography 2.0: Digital Resistance against Repressive Regimes
A team of Polish steganographers at the Institute of Telecommunications in Warsaw are doing some neat work that should be of interest to digital activists. Steganography is is the art and science of writing hidden messages in such a way that no one, apart from the sender and intended recipient, suspects the existence of the message, a form of security through obscurity. http://irevolution.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/steganography-2-0-digital-resistance-against-repressive-regimes/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Programmable Matter
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/universal-rubiks-cube-could-become-pentagon-shapeshifter Download a sculpture to some programmable matter, download another when styles change, save materials and aesthetics. ;-) ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] On Paintr
I came up with the idea for paintr one Friday morning in 2005 while thinking about Harold Cohen's arguments regarding computer art in his essays and while thinking about the work of Pall Thayer. Paintr's tag line was art in the age of network services, or art as a network service. By lunchtime I had something working, and by late afternoon on Saturday it was feature complete. A few weeks later I exhibited it at my show Howto in Belgrade. Artists don't make art by sitting around waiting for flashes of abstract conceptual or aesthetic inspiration then realizing it in visual form, but paintr does. The original version did so purely using Web 2.0-style web services; colr.org for colour palettes, flickr for (copylefted) photographs, and an online version of autotrace to convert the photographs to drawings. These paradigmatic web services were glued together with the paradigmatic web scripting programming language PHP. Many of my projects take a linguistic (verbal or visual language) description of art or reality and drive open the cracks in it by taking it literally to making something ironic and unstable. They are disproofs of theories, illustrations of mistakes, but they have a remainder that has its own meaning or effect. Paintr is a good example of this. It's an analogue to art or artistic activity, the realisation of a popular misconception of how art is made. It's an exploit on the idea of art or on the misunderstanding of it. The relationship that paintr has to Web 2.0 hype is similarly ironic. Web 2.0 makes it easy to create new software by gluing together the public APIs of web services, but you are limited in what you can ultimately do by the affordances that those services provide. Human socialisation can be planned, effected and recorded online in great detail and with great reach through social networking sites, but it is reified and channeled through normatising affordances. Art isn't something that should be created and vended as a web service like weather data or news tickers, but if that's the case what is special about art as a human activity that isn't about human activity in general? Paintr makes something that isn't art. It's easy to say why it isn't art but it's less easy to see why it isn't art, unless contemporary art of the housepaint-on-aluminium school also isn't art. This entanglement makes paintr about something more than itself artistically as well as socially. Art computing is usually dismissed out of hand by mainstream art critics because of its perceived lack of psychological content, subjectivity, interiority, or affect. Dismissing paintr on that basis is trivial because it isn't even trying to express something. But the intentional fallacy starts to seep through the cracks, and entanglement means that this leads to collateral damage for more critically acceptable forms of art. Aesthetics is resistant to corporate information culture because quantifying it doesn't capture its value. We can chain back from this obvious example to the more general case of human experience. The supernaturalism of qualia isn't necessary for aesthetics to have an experientially irreducible core. But paintr itself cannot experience this core. It weaves human affect and activity into its activity (colour palettes and images posted to social networking sites) but it is inhuman, beyond even death-of-the-author, a representative of corporate information culture and its exploitative cultural asset-stripping of cool. It loops back, conceptually. The remainder of this loop is its artistic value. The latest version of paintr has a back end written in Lisp and runs autotrace locally. It now has an RSS feed, always part of the plan, although it doesn't have an API yet. It's going to expand to start from expressing emotions rather than from abstract aesthetic inspiration. It will probably use Wordnet to map more creatively from its initial tags to the colours and images it searches for. It is becoming increasingly an example of social-network-based collective intelligence programming and increasingly an example of how this reifies human experience. And it looks good while doing so and in order to do so. http://robmyers.org/weblog/2009/06/paintr-1.html http://robmyers.org/paintr ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Open Source Embroidery In Wired
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/06/gallery_embroidery/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
