Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-27 Thread aymeric mansoux
Hi James, james jwm-art net said : Hi Aymeric, everyone, Sorry reply is a bit late now.. mine too :) Concerning Debian, I can't recall if I mentionned it previously, our goal is also not to leave our packages in a nich repository, the mid term plan for the pure:dyne team is to start

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
As a result of the discussion I have installed pure:dyne on my laptop and I am sending this message from it. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-24 Thread james jwm-art net
Hi Aymeric, everyone, Sorry reply is a bit late now.. On 23/10/2008, aymeric mansoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. maybe it was demudi? Yes that's it. It more or less got me off Gnome straight away, and I enjoyed using it :-) I'm back on the Gnome again just recently. One big improvement (IMHO)

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-23 Thread marc garrett
Hi Netbehaviorists, Heather Aymeric - pure:dyners. This is probably an appropriate time to round things up, especially now that the pure:dyne team are getting things ready for the FLOSS+Art: Book preview, panel discussion and software party, which is taking place this evening. I'm not sure if

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-23 Thread aymeric mansoux
Hi James, james jwm-art net said : I'm curious about how pure:dyne might compare to other multimedia distributions. I have always gone back to Debian (stable) as my main OS, but have tried 64studio... and another, can't remember it's name, it used fluxbox as it's desktop but the distro died,

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-23 Thread aymeric mansoux
Hi Rob, Rob Myers said : To embrace FLOSS, artists must be able to see what is has to offer that is not available elsewhere (from practical issues, to social aspects and knowledge sharing) and this only needs curiosity and a good dose of self motivation. Do you think that artists

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-22 Thread james jwm-art net
Hi, I'm curious about how pure:dyne might compare to other multimedia distributions. I have always gone back to Debian (stable) as my main OS, but have tried 64studio... and another, can't remember it's name, it used fluxbox as it's desktop but the distro died, but the desktop was fast and it

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-22 Thread aymeric mansoux
Hi Marc, marc garrett said : Perhaps East Germany is an easy target for declaring that social change is occuring, but there is something in the air. So, considering the current state of things and the impact of economies collapsing around us, do you think that this climate adds extra weight

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-22 Thread Heather Corcoran
Just briefly to add to what Aymeric is saying here (brief because we're preparing for our pure:dyne event tomorrow night, 23rd at 6:30pm - please join us! - at Mute HQ in London, and Aymeric has said lots here that I agree with). Coincidentally I've just been doing some work around this for an

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-20 Thread Heather Corcoran
Hello, I imagine Bob’s question came from Aymeric’s somewhat technical last response? I think its important to remember that, as I mentioned in my first answer, pure:dyne is a tool and not an artwork. Bob’s question was about the discussion of artwork and I don’t think it exactly applies

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-20 Thread aymeric mansoux
Hi Bob, Marc, list Art forms have their technical aspects. Artists are forever learning, playing, working and experimenting with the technology at their disposal. Tools for the job. Means and ends. Artists are largely focused on the latter; the ability to use the tools is presumed. However

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-20 Thread marc garrett
Hi Heather, Aymeric all, Thank you for your answers so far, As the global, economical crisis seeps deeper into people's lives everywhere. More are questioning their own approaches to living, and many are reconsidering their social values after the break-down of these capitalist, (free)

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-19 Thread bob catchpole
Art forms have their technical aspects. Artists are forever learning, playing, working and experimenting with the technology at their disposal. Tools for the job. Means and ends. Artists are largely focused on the latter; the ability to use the tools is presumed. However when it comes to

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-19 Thread bob catchpole
Art forms have their technical aspects. Artists are forever learning, playing, working and experimenting with the technology at their disposal. Tools for the job. Means and ends. Artists are largely focused on the latter; the ability to use the tools is presumed. However when it comes to

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-19 Thread marc garrett
Hi Bob, Heather, Aymeric all, I think that Bob has raised one of the most important questions that many artists ask themselves in respect of using technology as part of their art, and those who are interested in exploring it further themselves as a contemporary practice. This question can also

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-19 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 aymeric mansoux wrote: Hi Rob, [...] It was a natural thing to do. We've always been working on minimal environments, which, to paraphrase the UNIX philosophy, needs to do one thing and one thing well. In the context of windows manager that

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-18 Thread aymeric mansoux
Hi Rob, You mention that pure:dyne emerged from practical necessity and didn't have a grand plan. Did you design its user experience with any model or set of requirements in mind? It reminds me of the clean, pleasurable, no-nonsense environments of old Mac and SGI systems. Was that

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:47 AM, aymeric mansoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that they were not any type of users, they were artists, who had in fact very similar needs to ours. From teaching, to using the system for performances/installation, and even using it as main operating system.

[NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi Heather Corcoran Aymeric Mansoux - a warm welcome to the Netbehaviour list, I know that there are few on this list who are interested in pure:dyne. Some have already used it and others are playing with the idea of usiing it. It would be great to hear from them as well, regarding their

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-16 Thread Heather Corcoran
Hi Marc, hi everyone, Thanks everyone for the welcome and interest in pure:dyne. That question is interesting because Aymeric and I will have two different perspectives, him as an artist and co-founder of the project, and me as a curator/producer and newer to the project. Aymeric is actually

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi Heather, Thank you for your answers. I'll hold back till tomorrow regarding any other questions so to leave space for Aymeric to come on board, later on. marc Hi Marc, hi everyone, Thanks everyone for the welcome and interest in pure:dyne. That question is interesting because Aymeric