Re: [NTG-context] MKIV on Mactex Texlive 2008 (Context broken)

2009-09-23 Thread David Arnold
Aditya, Thanks. You are always so helpful. But I would really prefer to fix this and correct installation directions on pages like: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV I think I have maybe an owner and permissions problem as a result of these rsync commands:

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV on Mactex Texlive 2008 (Context broken)

2009-09-23 Thread Hans Hagen
David Arnold wrote: All, After trying below, my context is now broken. david-arnolds-macbook-pro:en darnold$ texexec --help -bash: /usr/texbin/texexec: Permission denied I need help. did you install the minimals using first-setup.sh ? it should set the permissions right Hans

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV on Mactex Texlive 2008 (Context broken)

2009-09-23 Thread David Arnold
Hans, No. I have Mactex texlive 2008 installed and I used the rsync directions on: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV The result is I no longer have a functioning context installation. I will try installing the minimals, but I'd really like to get my Mactex installation

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV on Mactex Texlive 2008 (Context broken)

2009-09-23 Thread Hans Hagen
David Arnold wrote: Hans, No. I have Mactex texlive 2008 installed and I used the rsync directions on: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV The result is I no longer have a functioning context installation. I will try installing the minimals, but I'd really like to get my Mactex

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV on Mactex Texlive 2008 (Context broken)

2009-09-23 Thread David Arnold
Hans, My impression from reading installation directions for minimals is that when you open a shell, and if you have your .bash_profile configured, that setuptex will be sourced. That must set some sort of path while the current shell is active? Will that interfere with needing to

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV in TL2009

2009-09-22 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
The included luatex binary is (the date seems wrong?) Version beta-0.40.6-2009090923 (TeX Live 2009/Arch Linux) luatex.web = v14240 The appended date and time in the version number is always the compilation date, it does not reflect anything about the sources that were used. Does this

Re: [NTG-context] mkIV framedcontent not working

2009-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.09.2009 um 22:38 schrieb Hans Hagen: start with making a small example that shows the problem easy to fix, change (why \ifcsname here?) \def\startframedcontent[#1]% {\bgroup \doifelse{#1}\v!off {\let\stopframedcontent\egroup} {\ifcsname\??fc#1\c!frame\endcsname

Re: [NTG-context] mkIV framedcontent not working

2009-09-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 09.09.2009 um 22:38 schrieb Hans Hagen: start with making a small example that shows the problem easy to fix, change (why \ifcsname here?) ok, i fixed it (although a bit different) Hans -

Re: [NTG-context] mkIV framedcontent not working

2009-09-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, \stopframedcontent gives an undefined control sequence in mkIV. mkII is ok. Any ideas? start with making a small example that shows the problem - Hans Hagen |

Re: [NTG-context] mkIV framedcontent not working

2009-08-31 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Floerenthomas.floe...@boschung.com wrote: Hi, \stopframedcontent gives an undefined control sequence in mkIV. mkII is ok. Any ideas? Can you give a short example ? -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] mkIV framedcontent not working

2009-08-31 Thread Thomas Floeren
luigi scarso mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote on Monday, August 31, 2009 11:24 PM: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Floerenthomas.floe...@boschung.com wrote: Hi, \stopframedcontent gives an undefined control sequence in mkIV. mkII is ok. Any ideas? Can you give a

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello Hans, nothing urgent (I'm still on MKII), but it seems that MKIV (maybe only on my machine?) has problems with externalfigure(filename.png) maybe a library problem? Hans -

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 16:22, Hans Hagen wrote: pdftex and luatex process your file ok OK, so it's again my computer only problem :) :) :) Well, never mind then. If it works for you then it probably works on at least a few more machines, or will start working with the next major release at

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: I remember similar problem a while ago due to some transparency being used on the same page (but at that time you said it was a bug in adobe reader). i suspect that they use a different color renderer when extgstates are set

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Rolf
Mojca Miklavec schrieb: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 16:22, Hans Hagen wrote: pdftex and luatex process your file ok OK, so it's again my computer only problem :) :) :) Well, never mind then. If it works for you then it probably works on at least a few more machines, or will start working

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:36, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Mojca, wrong colors (or what is the problem here)? On my machine \startMPcode externalfigure(filename.png); \stopMPcode doesn't work in MKIV at all. On Hans' machine it generates weird colors (though not that much wrong). I can send you an

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:36, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Mojca, wrong colors (or what is the problem here)? On my machine \startMPcode externalfigure(filename.png); \stopMPcode doesn't work in MKIV at all. On Hans' machine it generates weird colors (though not that much

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:57, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:36, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Mojca, wrong colors (or what is the problem here)? On my machine \startMPcode externalfigure(filename.png); \stopMPcode doesn't work in MKIV at all. On Hans' machine it generates

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: I guess that I give up. whow, you giving up? It started working now for no particular reason (no change in files, no change in my installation). well, you'r laptop is somewhat randomly working anyway so ... And the colors are fine as well. My only explanation is

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote: if i were you, i'd start worying about my disk or the display ... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Rolf
Mojca Miklavec schrieb: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:57, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:36, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Mojca, wrong colors (or what is the problem here)? On my machine \startMPcode externalfigure(filename.png); \stopMPcode doesn't work in MKIV at

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: My only explanation: Hans has direct access to your harddisk and changes things silently in the background :D ok, this was supposed to be a secret, but indeed taco and i can log into her time capsule device and move her back- and forward in time depending on how much

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and externaligure inside metafun

2009-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 18:51, Hans Hagen wrote: Peter Rolf wrote: My only explanation: Hans has direct access to your harddisk and changes things silently in the background :D ok, this was supposed to be a secret, but indeed taco and i can log into her time capsule device and move her

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: In my understanding, \part serves to delimit logical sections of related chapters, not volumes. Maybe I am wrong in this interpretation; maybe \part is to be used to delimit volumes. Nevertheless, it should be relatively simple for the basic user to be able to select the

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 09 July 2009 09:38:07 Hans Hagen wrote: part is just the first level of sectioning and happens to be configured in such a way that it does not show a title; really nothing special It is a question of default setup. \part is configured differently : no title, additional page number,

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.07.2009 um 09:59 schrieb Alan BRASLAU: On Thursday 09 July 2009 09:38:07 Hans Hagen wrote: part is just the first level of sectioning and happens to be configured in such a way that it does not show a title; really nothing special It is a question of default setup. \part is

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 03.07.2009 um 16:04 schrieb Hans Hagen: Alan BRASLAU wrote: In my understanding, \part serves to delimit logical sections of related chapters, not volumes. Maybe I am wrong in this interpretation; maybe \part is to be used to delimit volumes. Nevertheless, it

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi Wolfgang Alan BRASLAU wrote: In my understanding, \part serves to delimit logical sections of related chapters, not volumes. Maybe I am wrong in this interpretation; maybe \part is to be used to delimit volumes. Nevertheless, it should be relatively simple for the basic user to be able to

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 16:04:07 Hans Hagen wrote: Obsolete in mkii? Shouldn't basic use (read standard users) treat source text transparently between mkii and mkiv? no, this is one of the few places where there will be a difference; we have way more control now (also to the

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-05 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Friday 03 July 2009 16:04:07 Hans Hagen wrote: Obsolete in mkii? Shouldn't basic use (read standard users) treat source text transparently between mkii and mkiv? no, this is one of the few places where there will be a difference; we have way more control now (also to the detail of

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-03 Thread Alan BRASLAU
In my experience, a \part is generally (except in some rather technical documents) not treated as a super-chapter, that is chapter numbers (and titles) are not reset and retain their status as if the book was not divided into parts. A very long work is commonly broken into volumes. Here, each

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: In my understanding, \part serves to delimit logical sections of related chapters, not volumes. Maybe I am wrong in this interpretation; maybe \part is to be used to delimit volumes. Nevertheless, it should be relatively simple for the basic user to be able to select the

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-02 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Monday 15 June 2009 10:02:35 Hans Hagen wrote: I was wondering ... the last time quite some nice small test samples were posted for testing the structure code % Example taken from cont-enp.pdf % However, adding \part{} is problematic... % (maybe someone can correct this?) %

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv structure

2009-07-02 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Monday 15 June 2009 10:02:35 Hans Hagen wrote: I was wondering ... the last time quite some nice small test samples were posted for testing the structure code % Example taken from cont-enp.pdf % However, adding \part{} is problematic... % (maybe someone can correct

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV ownnumber issue

2009-06-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Monday 22 June 2009 09:01:01 Tim Wraight wrote: The following example from the manual does not work for me in MKIV (2009.06.14 21:01): \starttext \setuphead[subsection][ownnumber=yes] \subsection{399}{The old number} \subsection[someref]{400}{Another number} \stoptext Structuring has

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV ownnumber issue

2009-06-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.06.2009 um 09:01 schrieb Tim Wraight: Hi, The following example from the manual does not work for me in MKIV (2009.06.14 21:01): \starttext \setuphead[subsection][ownnumber=yes] \subsection{399}{The old number} \subsection[someref]{400}{Another number} \stoptext \unprotect

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV ownnumber issue

2009-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 22.06.2009 um 09:01 schrieb Tim Wraight: Hi, The following example from the manual does not work for me in MKIV (2009.06.14 21:01): \starttext \setuphead[subsection][ownnumber=yes] \subsection{399}{The old number} \subsection[someref]{400}{Another number}

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV doesn't support units module?

2009-06-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Zhichu Chen wrote: Well, I shouldn't say the module units is not fully supported, but it won't give me what I want in MKIV. Those units it made are in italic shape but I really need them to be upright. I think I don't need to provide a test file, 'cause any files don't work for me. well, even

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV doesn't support units module?

2009-06-03 Thread Zhichu Chen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Zhichu Chen wrote: Well, I shouldn't say the module units is not fully supported, but it won't give me what I want in MKIV. Those units it made are in italic shape but I really need them to be upright. I think I don't need to

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-06-01 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:34:57PM +0900, Dohyun Kim wrote: 2009/5/22 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com: Hans Hagen wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Not very helpful in this situation, but FontForge has a non-standard italic correction (ITLC) table[1], may be TeX

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-06-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Khaled Hosny wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:34:57PM +0900, Dohyun Kim wrote: 2009/5/22 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com: Hans Hagen wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Not very helpful in this situation, but FontForge has a non-standard italic correction (ITLC) table[1],

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Dohyun Kim wrote: Considering current state that we don't know any fonts that has ITLC table, it would be better than nothing to implement italic correction as follows. In the following code, fontdata is a table returned by the function fonts.define.read. local param =

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-26 Thread Dohyun Kim
2009/5/22 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com: Hans Hagen wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Not very helpful in this situation, but FontForge has a non-standard italic correction (ITLC) table[1], may be TeX related OpenTyp font projects like Latin Modern and Gyre fonts can

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Corsair wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:59:14PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Corsair wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:55:45AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: open type fonts have no italic correction info (except in math) But I notice that using the same fonts in XeTeX produces italic

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Khaled Hosny wrote: Not very helpful in this situation, but FontForge has a non-standard italic correction (ITLC) table[1], may be TeX related OpenTyp font projects like Latin Modern and Gyre fonts can use it? That would perhaps not be a bad idea. If that table is there then luatex will

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Not very helpful in this situation, but FontForge has a non-standard italic correction (ITLC) table[1], may be TeX related OpenTyp font projects like Latin Modern and Gyre fonts can use it? That would perhaps not be a bad idea. If that table is there

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Not very helpful in this situation, but FontForge has a non-standard italic correction (ITLC) table[1], may be TeX related OpenTyp font projects like Latin Modern and Gyre fonts can use it? That would perhaps not be a bad idea.

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Corsair wrote: Hi all, Does MkIV support italic correction? Because the following code produces two identical f)s \starttext {\it f}) {\it f\/}) \stoptext open type fonts have no italic correction info (except in math) Hans

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-21 Thread Corsair
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:55:45AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: open type fonts have no italic correction info (except in math) But I notice that using the same fonts in XeTeX produces italic correction. Is it fake? -- There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Corsair wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:55:45AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: open type fonts have no italic correction info (except in math) But I notice that using the same fonts in XeTeX produces italic correction. Is it fake? I guess it is using the glyph boundingbox.

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-21 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:55:45AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Corsair wrote: Hi all, Does MkIV support italic correction? Because the following code produces two identical f)s \starttext {\it f}) {\it f\/}) \stoptext open type fonts have no italic correction info (except in math) Not

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-21 Thread Corsair
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:59:14PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Corsair wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:55:45AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: open type fonts have no italic correction info (except in math) But I notice that using the same fonts in XeTeX produces italic correction. Is it

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-20 Thread Yue Wang
it supports italic correction by default. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Corsair chris.cors...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does MkIV support italic correction?  Because the following code produces two identical f)s \starttext {\it f}) {\it f\/}) \stoptext -- There is no emotion; there

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV italic correction?

2009-05-20 Thread Corsair
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 03:21:59PM +0800, Yue Wang wrote: it supports italic correction by default. Then what's your result of the code? Does it come with italic correction? On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Corsair chris.cors...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does MkIV support italic

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 15.05.2009 um 01:48 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output yes, but there is also an original ttf version -- they works ok , of course. you wrote this

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica You fixed the problem with the felltype

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- -

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote: So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of creation of font encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ? Maybe

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote: And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead. Best

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.05.2009 um 12:12 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead.

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) If you want to be sure that LuaTeX's output looks right in the most recent versions of Adobe Reader, editing the font is the

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output If Luigi is concerned with rounding errors, he shouldn't do that: while the coordinates of the points on the curve wouldn't change, all the control points would need to be recalculated due to the conversion from cubic to quadratic splines.

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output If Luigi is concerned with rounding errors, he shouldn't do that: while the coordinates of the points on the curve wouldn't change, all the control points would need to be recalculated due to the conversion

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:03:10AM +0200, luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name      type  emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C  

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Rounding errors are not that important in this case, and there are downsides to both (o3-o2 touches *only* control points, so in some sense it is more precise than upm change). True, you can see it that way, too. We really need Karel Píška here :-)

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Not only OOo, InDesign does that too, moreover, someone said even if LuaTeX (XeTeX too) output looked OK in Adobe reader 7, the print isn't OK. On what printer? It's probably a bug in the driver, too. LuaTeX does exactly according to specification, I discussed this strategy with Taco years

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org wrote: arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) If you want to be sure that

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 14.05.2009 um 12:12 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread luigi scarso
As a reference, I start from http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/talks/2008-08-24-taco-typescripts/liberation.tex Also http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf and http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf and look into

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Hans Hagen
afsmith wrote: Hi ntg-context. I'm very confused about accomplishing something that to me seems as though it should be quite simple, but has proven for weeks of occasional attempts to be very confusing. I'm finding existing information from the contextgarden wiki and ntg-context archives to be

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 13.05.2009 um 15:29 schrieb luigi scarso: As a reference, I start from http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/talks/2008-08-24-taco-typescripts/liberation.tex Also http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf and

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 15:29 schrieb luigi scarso: As a reference, I start from http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/talks/2008-08-24-taco-typescripts/liberation.tex Also

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 13.05.2009 um 16:48 schrieb luigi scarso: There is also a simpler way: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/ simplefonts/ :) still no arrived there. I'm sorry but what do you mean? Wolfgang ___ If your question

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 16:48 schrieb luigi scarso: There is also a simpler way: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/ :) still no arrived there. I'm sorry but what do you mean? ah ,bad english

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts? Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread afsmith
Luigi, Hans, and Wolfgang, thank you for your responses. I'm still unclear on several things. (comments on your responses follow afterwards) Let me try asking these things as questions. Specifically, could someone please tell me... 1. How do I determine whether I am using MKII, MKIV, or XeTeX to

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Hans Hagen
afsmith wrote: Luigi, Hans, and Wolfgang, thank you for your responses. I'm still unclear on several things. (comments on your responses follow afterwards) Let me try asking these things as questions. Specifically, could someone please tell me... 1. How do I determine whether I am using MKII,

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 13.05.2009 um 18:31 schrieb afsmith: Wolfgang, Currently the module you linked to (http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/) is beyond my understanding... I would first like to understand the mechanism your module operates on before trying to automate it. My module simplifies the use of

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 13 May 2009, afsmith wrote: Luigi, Hans, and Wolfgang, thank you for your responses. I'm still unclear on several things. (comments on your responses follow afterwards) Let me try asking these things as questions. Specifically, could someone please tell me... 1. How do I determine

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 13.05.2009 um 22:23 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Wed, 13 May 2009, afsmith wrote: Let me try asking these things as questions. Specifically, could someone please tell me... 1. How do I determine whether I am using MKII, MKIV, or XeTeX to process my documents? Depends on how you process

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-13 Thread Mohamed Bana
if you don't require anything completex http://github.com/contextgarden/otfinstall/tree/master automates a lot of the tasks required in installing a font in mkii. afsmith wrote: Luigi, Hans, and Wolfgang, thank you for your responses. I'm still unclear on several things. (comments on your

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv document size shrinks (nice)

2009-04-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, Files produced by the latest beta have smaller size then those compiled at the beginning of the year. For example, typical lyrics documents shrinked from ~20Kb to ~14Kb each. It's nice. I just wonder -- is it connected with font subsets embedding ? No

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv document size shrinks (nice)

2009-04-15 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, Files produced by the latest beta have smaller size then those compiled at the beginning of the year. For example, typical lyrics documents shrinked from ~20Kb to ~14Kb each. It's nice. I just wonder -- is it connected with font

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: problem with synonyms

2009-03-05 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Hi Hans, When you earlier said that sorting was supported in cont-xp, did you mean it should be working right now, or that you are only going to fix sorting in cont-xp? Right now, \completelistofacronyms fails in the following example using 'context --interface=xp' : -

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: problem with synonyms

2009-03-05 Thread Hans Hagen
Kevin D. Robbins wrote: Hi Hans, When you earlier said that sorting was supported in cont-xp, did you mean it should be working right now, or that you are only going to fix sorting in cont-xp? indeed, only fix in xp which will become normal mkiv as soon as i have time to merge back the code

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-25 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: I confirm that this now works using the current --context=alpha \enableregime[utf] mkiv is utf by default -) (But is still necessary to remain compatible with mkii) the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why) you need the mathematical alpha \startTEXpage

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-25 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:23, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan BRASLAU wrote: I confirm that this now works using the current --context=alpha \enableregime[utf] mkiv is utf by default -) (But is still necessary to remain compatible with mkii) the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why) you

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals: (This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0 ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.2.24 int: english/english)

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-24 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Thanks for the very rapid reply. On Tuesday 24 February 2009 18:23:48 Hans Hagen wrote: ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.2.24 int: english/english) ^^ way too old So things move fast! get the zip from the website, I'm not sure which zip you

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals: (This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0 ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.2.24 int: english/english) (Almost) minimal

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan BRASLAU wrote: There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals: (This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0 ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.2.24 int: english/english) (Almost) minimal

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Hans Hagen wrote: the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why) you need the mathematical alpha \startTEXpage \startchemical[width=fit,height=fit] \chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_{\utfchar{1D6FC}}] \stopchemical \stopTEXpage

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV \digits bug

2009-02-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 15.02.2009 um 17:04 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi, the \digits command cause a error message with the last beta in MkIV. % engine=luatex \starttext \digits{1.000} \stoptext ! \textfont 1 is undefined (character :). \mathematics #1-\relax \ifmmode #1\else $#1$

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: problem with synonyms

2009-02-05 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote: Hello, \completelistof... does not work with MKIV (ConTeXt 2009.01.18 and LuaTeX snapshot-0.31.3-2008123108): \definesynonyms[Acro][acronymes] \Acro{HTML}{HyperText Markup Language} \Acro{PDF}{Portable Document Format} \starttext \HTML\ and \PDF \completelistofacronymes

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV bug

2009-01-18 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-01-18 um 06:06 schrieb Yue Wang: OK, in fact the whole file is just add \bye at the end of that piece of code. This works well on both mkii and mkiv: \starttext ... \stoptext and this only works in MKII, not mkiv: ... \bye Why do you expect ConTeXt to work without

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV bug

2009-01-18 Thread Yue Wang
Hi, Why do you expect ConTeXt to work without \start|stoptext ? Well, it used to work, and i use it a lot in my own document. (both mkiv and mkii support this before the 2008.11.10 version) Yue Wang ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV bug

2009-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: Hi, Why do you expect ConTeXt to work without \start|stoptext ? Well, it used to work, and i use it a lot in my own document. (both mkiv and mkii support this before the 2008.11.10 version) start/stoptext is really needed in order to let multipass info work

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