Re: [NTG-context] update
On 4/27/2023 7:11 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote: Hi Lynx, Aditya, New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this. My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ? No. Usually, texlive updates context once a year. This is correct in general, but this specific update *will* end up in TL2023 due to the engine changes that Hans mentioned. It's not in TL yet, but we're actively working on it, so it should show up within a week or so (hopefully). Correction: Luigi and I are still discussing how to make it work because there is some init order issue and we want to be sure that context (and its scripts) keep working. It would be sort of weird if context (where luatex originates) would stop working as expected. Keep in mind that luatex is also a lua engine. and I assume that the texlive team also has some tests to perform (apart from getting all platforms updated which for some is more work, like apple signing). The issue (disabling socket by default) is not that pressing as socket has been with us for right fromn the start) and security wise there are plenty ways tex can mess up your system if someone wants. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
On 4/27/2023 2:50 AM, lynx--- via ntg-context wrote: Re: performing update(s) New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this. My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ? Basically tex live is the yearly snapshot. I actually dont' know the rules for updating texlive but there are definitely updates. But as much relates there (like engines shared between macro packages) it can be that only macros get updated and not engines (also relates to multiple platforms) so fundamental changes to luatex as engine .. hard to predict. But you can just install the lmtx installation alongside (it's small compared to tex live) and have the best of both worlds. The lmtx installation also has mkiv. It also comes with the fonts that match what we expect in context (as fonts get updated or changed). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
Hi Lynx, Aditya, > > New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this. > > > > My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will > > the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ? > > No. Usually, texlive updates context once a year. This is correct in general, but this specific update *will* end up in TL2023 due to the engine changes that Hans mentioned. It's not in TL yet, but we're actively working on it, so it should show up within a week or so (hopefully). Thanks, -- Max ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023, lynx--- via ntg-context wrote: > Re: performing update(s) > > New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this. > > My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will > the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ? No. Usually, texlive updates context once a year. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
Re: performing update(s)
New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this.
My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will
the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ?
Thanks,
On 2023-04-26 14:55, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new version with some new features discussed at the end of this
> mail.
>
> - A next version of luatex will break context (format making etc) but the
> change is unavoidable because of other macro package demands wrt security
> (context does that differently). The low level start up command
> has been adapted so unless you update indepdently thinsg should work ok. Of
> course this has no consequences for lmtx.
>
> - I've done a bit of callback cleanup (like getting rid of some mkiv luatex
> left-overs). It should have no effect on regular usage.
>
> - There again a few improvements wrt math (this time dealing with accents
> artifacts in some fonts). We check all the free math fonts for potential
> issues and then try to fix it (read: deal with it). It's a lot of work but
> we're getting there.
>
> - A few reported buglets have been fixed.
>
> - The biggest addition is however a new number model. In metapost one can now
> use 'posit' (positfun instance) as number mode which will use (currently 32
> bit but at some point 64 bit) posit unums. It's also bit of a playground
> because 32 bit posits are not more accurate than 64 bit doubles. It anyhow
> exposed some potential issues that we'll look into.
>
> - There's also a (again currently 32 bit) posit library at the Lua end as
> playground.
>
> - However, 32 bit posits come in handy at the tex end because they pack
> better accuracy in 32 bits than floats and it makes it possible to have
> native floats, so we have:
>
> \newfloat (uses \floatdef, register like \dimendef is used in \newdimen)
>
> \newposit (uses \positdef, like \dimensiondef etc)
>
> \floatexpr (like \numexpr)
>
> \iffloat (like \ifnum) (also \ifabsfloat and i'll add the others too)
>
> Actually it adds an extra range of registers so it bumps memory usage a bit.
> I'm considering lowering the number of registers (currently 64K per category)
> because after all, if 64K is not enough then we can as well stick to 32K or
> 16K (for some even less). There's always Lua for unlimited storage of
> quantities.
>
> So,
>
> \newfloat\fooA
>
> \scratchdimen=123.456pt\relax[\type{dim:}
> \the\scratchdimen==123.456pt]\par
> \fooA=123.456\relax [\type{pos:} \the\fooA ==123.456] \par
> \fooA=\scratchdimen\relax[\type{pos:} \the\fooA ==123.456] \par
> \scratchdimen=\fooA\relax[\type{dim:}
> \the\scratchdimen==123.456pt]\par
> \scratchdimen\dimexpr\fooA+10pt\relax[\type{dim:}
> \the\scratchdimen==133.456pt]\par
>
> produces
>
> [dim: 123.456pt==123.456pt]
> [pos: 123.45600128173828==123.456]
> [pos: 123.45599365234375==123.456]
> [dim: 123.456pt==123.456pt]
> [dim: 133.456pt==133.456pt]
>
> As you can see dimens will get mapped onto floats not as integers (scaled
> points) but in pt units. Counts stay numbers. I need to handle glue too (not
> yet done).
>
> In the future I might use this for fractions but there might be some rough
> ends so for now it's experimental.
>
> Hans
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Idea for a shared repository.
Am 25.04.23 um 17:13 schrieb Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context: On Tue, 25 Apr 2023, Pawel Urbanski via ntg-context wrote: What about creating a repository called: 'templates' or 'resources' - we can figure out the exact name later. Why not use the wiki for such documents? For fonts, there is already a wiki page collecting typescripts: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Typescripts_examples There are also a collection of templates which are already on the wiki: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Sample_documents It is not about duplicating the Context garden site but to collect code in a place where we could gradually fix possible errors or introduce improvements. This can be done on the wiki as well. I agree that it makes most sense to keep examples and (font) setups in the wiki. Projects with several files, like modules, should have their own (git) repositories. (The scripts at modules.contextgarden.net can pull releases directly from a repository.) I think it’s better to have (and manage) your own account somewhere and link to it from the wiki than to use the “official” account for stuff that is not part of ConTeXt proper. My stuff is at https://codeberg.org/fiee/; some of that would also make (more) sense in the wiki. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Kaktovik numerals
On 4/19/2023 10:45 PM, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
Hello Gavin,
thank you so much for your input. — Indeed you are right. Please find attached
the corrected version.
Willi
On 19 Apr 2023, at 20:58, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Willi,
What fun! I think I found a couple math items to correct.
1) The second line of the tables at the top of page 2 should be:
1000' 100, 10, 1; 8000, 400, 20, 1
2) For the year conversion: 2023 = 5x20^2 + 1x20 + 3. (Your 0 should be my 1).
This will give a three digit Kaktovik numeral. You have 4 digit Kaktovik
numerals for 2023, with both a 0 and a 1.
je kunt direct dat nummer converteren maar blijkbaar gaf ik de verkeerde
volgorde uit:
\useMPlibrary[kaktovik] % de officiele manier
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[metapost=kaktovik]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu]
\starttext
2023 \kaktoviknumerals{5}\kaktoviknumerals{1}\kaktoviknumerals{3}
\kaktoviknumerals{2023} % deze split dus voor je, order fixed
\stoptext
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%D \module
%D [ file=meta-imp-kaktovik,
%Dversion=2023.04.18,
%D title=\METAPOST\ Graphics,
%D subtitle=Kaktovik Numbers,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
%D Just a quick hack for Hraban (after a post on the mailing list).
\startMPcalculation{simplefun}
path kaktovik_glyphs[] ;
def InitializeKaktovik =
save p, d, u ;
pair p[] ; numeric d ; d := .1 ; numeric u ; u := .15 ;
% d := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "d" .10 ;
% u := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "u" .15 ;
p[0] := (0,1) ;
p[1] := (1,0) ;
p[2] := (2,1 - d) ;
p[3] := (3,0) ;
p[4] := (4,1 - 2d) ;
p[5] := (4,1 + u) ;
p[6] := (0,1 + 2u) ;
p[7] := (4,1 + 4u) ;
kaktovik_glyphs[0] := (1,1) { right } .. { left } (2,1/2) { left } ..
{ right } (3,1);
for i= 1 upto 4 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[0] for j=1 upto i : -- p[j] endfor ;
endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] := p[5] -- p[0] ;for i= 6 upto 9 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[5] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[10] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] ; for i=11 upto 14 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[15] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[10] ; for i=16 upto 19 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
enddef ;
vardef Kaktovik(expr i) =
draw image (
draw kaktovik_glyphs[i]
xscaled (10/20 -1/20)
yscaled (25/20 -2/20)
withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/20 yscaled 5/20) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 2.5/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
;
) shifted (2/20,2/20)
enddef ;
lmt_registerglyphs [
name = "kaktovik",
units= 2,
usecolor = true,
width= 2,
height = 2,
depth= 0,
preamble = "InitializeKaktovik"
] ;
for i=0 upto 19 :
lmt_registerglyph [
category = "kaktovik",
unicode = 119488 + i, % "0x1D2C0"
code = "Kaktovik(" & decimal i & ")"
] ;
endfor ;
\stopMPcalculation
\startluacode
interfaces.implement {
name = "kaktoviknumerals",
arguments = "integer",
actions = function(n)
local digits = { }
local count = 1
while true do
digits[count] = utf.char(0x1D2C0 + (n % 20))
n = n // 20
if n == 0 then
break;
end
count = count + 1
end
table.reverse(digits)
context("%t",digits)
end
}
\stopluacode
\unprotect
\permanent\def\kaktoviknumerals#1{\clf_kaktoviknumerals\numexpr#1\relax}
\defineconversion [kaktoviknumerals] [\kaktoviknumerals]
\defineconversion [K][\kaktoviknumerals]
\definefontfeature
[kaktovik]
[metapost=kaktovik]
\protect
\continueifinputfile{meta-imp-kaktovik.mkxl}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[metapost=kaktovik]
% [metapost={category=kaktovik,u
Re: [NTG-context] xmlsetentity on the fly?
After some experiments I am now fairly convinced that the entities are
substituted BEFORE the typesettting actually starts. And thus changing the
entity on the fly will have no effect. Is there a flag that can be set in order
to delay the substitution until the actual moment of typesetting that part of
the input? I examined files lxml-ent.lua and lxml-tex.lua but could not find
how to this.
dr. Hans van der Meer
> On 17 Apr 2023, at 18:11, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> I tried
> \directlua{xml.registerentity("DATE","NEWDATE")}
>
> but neither does effect a change in the entity.
>
> Why is that entry not set in the Lua-table entities? (file xml-ent.lua) has
> as that function:
>
> function xml.registerentity(key,value)
> entities[key] = value
> if trace_entities then
> report_xml("registering entity %a as %a",key,value)
> end
> end
>
>
>> On 17 Apr 2023, at 12:32, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>>
>> I would like to change an entity 'on the fly'. Example
>>
>> \def\DATE{THEDATE}\expanded{\xmlsetentity{DATE}{\DATE}}
>>
>> \startxmlsetups typ:event
>>
>> \def\DATE{NEWDATE}\expanded{\xmlsetentity{DATE}{\DATE}}
>>
>> Using within the .
>>
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> However, using inside an always results in THEDATE and never
>> in NEWDATE.
>>
>> How can I change the value of the entity inside the xmlsetups?
>>
>
> dr. Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] Kaktovik numerals
On 4/18/2023 10:57 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
I just came across this thread about the base-20 system of the Inuit
people and the numerals invented for it in the 1990s:
https://mathstodon.xyz/@johncarlosbaez/110215432175491555
This makes simple calculations just beautiful.
interesting ... quick hack attached
Hans
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meta-imp-kaktovik.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
%D \module
%D [ file=meta-imp-kaktovik,
%Dversion=2023.04.18,
%D title=\METAPOST\ Graphics,
%D subtitle=Kaktovik Numbers,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
%D Just a quick hack for Hraban (after a post on the mailing list).
\startMPcalculation{simplefun}
path kaktovik_glyphs[] ;
def InitializeKaktovik =
save p, d, u ;
pair p[] ; numeric d ; d := .1 ; numeric u ; u := .15 ;
% d := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "d" .10 ;
% u := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "u" .15 ;
p[0] := (0,1) ;
p[1] := (1,0) ;
p[2] := (2,1 - d) ;
p[3] := (3,0) ;
p[4] := (4,1 - 2d) ;
p[5] := (4,1 + u) ;
p[6] := (0,1 + 2u) ;
p[7] := (4,1 + 4u) ;
kaktovik_glyphs[0] := (1,1) { right } .. { left } (2,1/2) { left } ..
{ right } (3,1);
for i= 1 upto 4 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[0] for j=1 upto i : -- p[j] endfor ;
endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] := p[5] -- p[0] ;for i= 6 upto 9 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[5] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[10] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] ; for i=11 upto 14 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[15] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[10] ; for i=16 upto 19 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
enddef ;
vardef Kaktovik(expr i) =
draw image (
draw kaktovik_glyphs[i]
xscaled (10/20 -1/20)
yscaled (25/20 -2/20)
withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/20 yscaled 5/20) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 2.5/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
;
) shifted (2/20,2/20)
enddef ;
lmt_registerglyphs [
name = "kaktovik",
units= 2,
usecolor = true,
width= 2,
height = 2,
depth= 0,
preamble = "InitializeKaktovik"
] ;
for i=0 upto 19 :
lmt_registerglyph [
category = "kaktovik",
unicode = 119488 + i, % "0x1D2C0"
code = "Kaktovik(" & decimal i & ")"
] ;
endfor ;
\stopMPcalculation
\startluacode
interfaces.implement {
name = "kaktoviknumerals",
arguments = "integer",
actions = function(n)
local digits = { }
local count = 1
while true do
digits[count] = utf.char(0x1D2C0 + (n % 20))
n = n // 20
if n == 0 then
break;
end
count = count + 1
end
context("%t",digits)
end
}
\stopluacode
\unprotect
\permanent\def\kaktoviknumerals#1{\clf_kaktoviknumerals\numexpr#1\relax}
\defineconversion [kaktoviknumerals] [\kaktoviknumerals]
\defineconversion [K][\kaktoviknumerals]
\definefontfeature
[kaktovik]
[metapost=kaktovik]
\protect
\continueifinputfile{meta-imp-kaktovik.mkxl}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[metapost=kaktovik]
% [metapost={category=kaktovik,u=.25,d=.20,x=}]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu]
% \nopdfcompression
\startTEXpage[offset=1ts,width=3es]
\start
\showglyphs
KAKTOVIK
\dostepwiserecurse{0}{19}{1}{\kaktoviknumerals{#1}\space }
\stop
kaktovik \start
\red\glyphxscale 700
\dostepwiserecurse{0}{19}{1}{\kaktoviknumerals{#1}\space }
\stop
\startitemize[packed,K][color=orange,stopper=]
\startitem first \stopitem
\startitem second \stopitem
\startitem third \stopitem
\stopitemize
KAKTOVIK \start
\red \kaktoviknumerals{2023} --
\green\kaktoviknumerals{4}--
\blue \kaktovikn
Re: [NTG-context] Software upgrade for ntg and contextgarden server 6 April
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:57:15AM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 4/15/2023 3:23 AM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > thank you Taco, Hans, and Aditya, Mikael, et > > > > Hans, I was just curious about your git strategy and wanted to ask you > > about something. > > I have no strategy. I see it as just an offline repository and archive. It's a strategy. It may not be the fanciest but you wrote earlier: >it's sort of the original git archive and our backup plan. > > > https://github.com/contextgarden/context ‹backup plan› has the same meaning there than a master plan (no pun intended with git) hence the association with a strategy. But when I wrote ‹strategy› it was not written with the intention to convey a message of exhaustive calculations to get or divise the plan of plans. NO. Rather more like what the definition says about it a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim. what is the backup plan of git as an archive but just a backup strategy. > > The luametatex repos sort of resembles what I have on my machine but even > then I always use intermediate 'compare before merge' steps that predate > git. Git (or svn) is nice for seeing changes but I admit that I never > roll-back using git. When I have to integrate something in e.g. luametatex > that comes from git I always diff (winmerge) and "manually merge". So much > for stragety: not that fancy. I agree > > The context updates are assembled from a completely different dev structure > (think also of temporary files, runtime files for manuals etc that don't > belong in something git) and turning that modus operandi into something git > would make my way of doing things pretty inefficient, so unless very little > changes etc happen i won't change that. > But it's good for the memory Hans. It's good for us. Studies on humans have revealed that learning or adapting to new methods might prove beneficial in the long run. > All the git magic is maintained by Mojca and occassionally we discuss how to > move on (we have some pending install-from-git stuff but that might take a > while before being promoted). > > I'm not really interested in al the additional stuff like chats, pull > requests, keeping track of comments in git, all these (for me useless) > statistics. I don't want to end up in an endless 'check this or that' noose, > so for me email and communicating (could be visual) with some involved does > it well; more fun too. I agree with you there. But who said anything about messages, chats, and the interactive social gitclub as gitlab, github and its ilk have suddenly become part of > > For some other projects git(hub|lab) is a communication method, basically an > on-line storage. > > > Did you guys ever consider having a cgit interface and hosting it. > > > > A bunch of projects have done it > > > > heck. Even git, which is where everything solely depends on in the end, is > > running it. > > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git/ > > > > https://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/ > There is not much to gain with adding yet another interface to what we have > now. It only works if one or more people commit (no git pun intended) > themselves long-term to it which relates to ie beging used. > It's just an interface much more simpler than what the git archive backup interface currently in use presumably undergoes. Git is sort of big as-is and that's not even counting all its remote helpers by which all those places depend on (gitlab, github, bitbucket), which makes it even bigger. I've just seen that interface in a few projects and thought it was nice that the devs have somehow implemented it. > (Keep in mind that it's all volunteer work.) > > Hans > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net >
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
On 2023-04-13 11:28, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: Hi, i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes The most important change is that I can't update it and I can't put stuff in the system directory nor the user one. So I only have access to the project folder, it has to be self-contained. \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] [features=eb-garamond-normal] Apologies, my fault, I forgot a part of my email. I don't want the c-t and s-t ligatures (supposed to be in `hlig`). But I do want the T-h ligature which is supposed to be in `dlig`. So as far as I understand, TeXlive comes with an old version of EB Garamond in which all of them are in `dlig`. Hence my question about self-contained projects with fonts. Best regards, Andre Andre (and list), EB Garamond is hopelessly broken with respect to hlig and dlig, and has been for quite a while. I reported the problem (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20) over five years ago, and the maintainer (if there is one) has done nothing. See also #4 in that issues list (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/4). There are a couple of forks, but there is no established reference implementation that I can see. The Google Fonts implementation is similarly challenged, perhaps worse. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
On 4/13/2023 5:28 PM, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: Hi, i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes The most important change is that I can't update it and I can't put stuff in the system directory nor the user one. So I only have access to the project folder, it has to be self-contained. \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] [features=eb-garamond-normal] Apologies, my fault, I forgot a part of my email. I don't want the c-t and s-t ligatures (supposed to be in `hlig`). But I do want the T-h ligature which is supposed to be in `dlig`. So as far as I understand, TeXlive comes with an old version of EB Garamond in which all of them are in `dlig`. Hence my question about self-contained projects with fonts. You can put the font in the local directory but i have no clue how that works with your setup because in the end the font cache is used and does a user have a local one? YOu can maybe rename the font,. put it in the work directory and make a typescript that refers to that one. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
Hi, > i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes The most important change is that I can't update it and I can't put stuff in the system directory nor the user one. So I only have access to the project folder, it has to be self-contained. > \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] > [features=eb-garamond-normal] Apologies, my fault, I forgot a part of my email. I don't want the c-t and s-t ligatures (supposed to be in `hlig`). But I do want the T-h ligature which is supposed to be in `dlig`. So as far as I understand, TeXlive comes with an old version of EB Garamond in which all of them are in `dlig`. Hence my question about self-contained projects with fonts. Best regards, Andre___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:20:32PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 4/11/2023 12:00 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > and belongs to TeX Live? > > well, i suppose there is a non-empty copy in texlive but an empty one can go > indeed > > > > > Here we go! Back to point A where we were at before > > > as alan pointed out: just install with the lmtx installer in a path > > > separate > > > from tex live, set the path and you're done; don't try to mix texlive > > > with a > > > adapted of standalone, texlive has its own context package and updates > > > etc; > > > keep them separated > > > > alright. That's fine. That's what I thought. > > > > So copy over the mtxrun binary on texmf-linux-64/bin to context and call it > > a > > day? > as long as the five mentioned files are there (and best hand mtxrun, context > and luametatex the same so use links) ... luametatex is the engine as well > as stub runner (runs the luatex file in the same path with the same name and > suffix lua) > thank you for the clarification. I was going over path to make sure that anything under /opt/texlive/2022/bin/x86_64-linux/ returns no binaries from there But where is actually luametatex under the standalone sources > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ > -- As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in finding mistakes in my own programs. -- Maurice Wilkes, designer of EDSAC, on programming, 1949 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On 4/11/2023 1:58 AM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: I'm just following some of the standalone installation instructions as per the wiki alongside a TeX Live installation, but there are a few things that don't add up or I can't seem to add them up :). first, while I was trying to mtxrun --generate it returned /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory So I thought heck, perhaps by creating a symbolic link we'll call it a day, but that wasn't enough, nope. That # line will go away or change because per 2023 we assume that the script is run by luametatex and we're in a sort of transition This is is circa 21st century ladies and gentlemen! And tex survived more that 4 decades so ... it operates in an eco system (tds, installations) ... todays fashion is not yesterdays and tomorrows so I thought, alright, since there seems ot be a a problem with texlua, let's also add it to path somehow. i'm not sure what you installed but the stand alone installer installs luametatex / luatex and therefore has luametatex mtxrun -> luametatex context -> luametatex mtxrun.lua context.lua in the same path (the links are stubs, not uncommon in the tex world where they are also used to launch macro packages like latex) it can't be more portable and simple than that, is efficient and works ok unless one wants some different setup, and spend time on that So with that out of the way, we'll move on to the next step and change to a directory and try to call out mtxrun --generate again It returns: > ... But this is the catch. I don't have texmfcnf.lua anymore . Not on the TeX Live installation anyway if that might've ever materialize as a question maybe that was not copied? the fact that we need a configuration and file database is also pretty much the way a tex installation works (with allits resources) If I were to invoke an mtxrun --script cache --erase Of course and going solely by the above the part whenever it says resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c' wont' find it anywhere because that dir does not exist. should be there with the installer; if one just installs the 'zip' it has to come from elsewhere (like texlive, where actually most lives in texmf-dist) and one has to copy a configuration file to there But remember that earlier, adding bin to path was necessary to avoid /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory message But even now while trying to find plain.tex I've come to the conclusion that it needs it or else fails altogether The problem is that I don't have plain.tex though. As a matter of fact the TeX Live installation I currently have, plain tex is nowhere to be seen, heck, not even latex but only a handful set of fmtutil fmtuitl-sys mktexfmt and updmap updmap-sys and the whole remainder of kpathsea but then again this in practice would not even be needed if at all. indeed, context doesn't rely on fmtutil etc In other words, only the TeX Live infrastructure needed which shouldn't be a problem, right? But itis: a problem that is. Besides. The reason I mentioned it is only to serve reference material , but that's it. to recap, mtxrun looks for a texmfcnf.lua (which I don't have) and also for a plain.tex which I don't have either, and also presumably for a contextcnf.lua (which I have) but the script concept is not so smart, and finishes off with a final note that says warning: no lua configuration files found. No shit Sherlock! Of course it can't find it, because it doesn't exist, resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c' But at this point and without sugar coating it, the standalone installation of context proves to be a chore more problematic than waiting to install over 5gb of TeX Live alone. hm, worked for quite a while for users; and did you try oen from https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm The only thing that the installation instructions got right from the start was the part about running the script with all modules. I'll probably… and eventually will try to install the whole TeX Live. But going solely by what the current TeX Live on my machine looks like, , with just the infrastcucture, while anything mtx was dropped like a hot potato really, it's a predicament... not sure what you mean here .. mtxrun was not dropped, tl 2313 just moved on to lmtx which is even less demanding (unless one starts moveing files around in the tex infrastruture and then expects stuff to keep working) -- Systems programmers are the high priests of a low cult. -- R.S. Barton dunno, don't know any of them -- Real computer scientists don't write code. They occasionally tinker with `programming systems', but those are so high level that they hardly count (and rarely count accurately; precision is for app
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 08:51:58PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > I'm just following some of the standalone installation instructions > > as per the wiki alongside a TeX Live installation, but there are a > > few things that don't add up or I can't seem to add them up :). > > > > first, while I was trying to mtxrun --generate it returned > > > > /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory > > > > So I thought heck, perhaps by creating a symbolic link we'll call it > > a day, but that wasn't enough, nope. > > > > This is is circa 21st century ladies and gentlemen! > > > > so I thought, alright, since there seems ot be a a problem with texlua, > > let's also add it to path somehow. > > Did you source the `setuptex` script, which sets the correct path. > > > So with that out of the way, we'll move on to the next step and change > > to a directory and try to call out mtxrun --generate again > > > > It returns: > > > > mtxrun --generate resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' > > set to '/home/ce/context/bin' resolvers | resolving | variable > > This appears to be the wrong mtxrun binary. You should include the PATH > variable listed as part of the installation. It should point to > `/home/ce/context/texmf-linux-64/bin` or something similar. with texmfcnf.lua and the contextbinary from just hte TeX Live infrastructure there is an interesting conflict with the same ol' same ol' anyhow [2/2, 00:02/02:56] install: context [92021k] running mktexlsr ... done running mktexlsr. running mtxrun --generate ... done running mtxrun --generate. running context --luatex --generate ... done running context --luatex --generate. running updmap-sys ... done running updmap-sys. then context mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua' context --luatex --generate mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua' same as with context --generate mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua' so it's an either or. texmfcnf.lua in place mtxrun would definitely go through but breaks context calls, while without it, a context call is just ostracized to a context --generate --luatex mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly "/opt/texlive/2023/bin/x86_64-linux/mtxrun.lua" --generate --redirected but that's not what I had in mind. mtxrun --script cache --erase mtxrun | unknown script 'cache.lua' or 'mtx-cache.lua' -- Real Programmers think better when playing Adventure or Rogue. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 08:51:58PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > I'm just following some of the standalone installation instructions > > as per the wiki alongside a TeX Live installation, but there are a > > few things that don't add up or I can't seem to add them up :). > > > > first, while I was trying to mtxrun --generate it returned > > > > /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory > > > > So I thought heck, perhaps by creating a symbolic link we'll call it > > a day, but that wasn't enough, nope. > > > > This is is circa 21st century ladies and gentlemen! > > > > so I thought, alright, since there seems ot be a a problem with texlua, > > let's also add it to path somehow. > > Did you source the `setuptex` script, which sets the correct path. > > > So with that out of the way, we'll move on to the next step and change > > to a directory and try to call out mtxrun --generate again > > > > It returns: > > > > mtxrun --generate resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' > > set to '/home/ce/context/bin' resolvers | resolving | variable > > This appears to be the wrong mtxrun binary. You should include the PATH > variable listed as part of the installation. It should point to > `/home/ce/context/texmf-linux-64/bin` or something similar. > > Aditya Is there any rationale not to have texmfcnf.lua alongside context.cnf and contextcnf.lua under web2c with the current standalone installation? Because on TeX Live infrastructure alone, I have my doubts that that file will be somehow generated magically. would it? Of course I could probably scrounge it off somewhere but it's also besides the point On the current installation of a standalone relying solely on what tewmf/webc holds is… well. > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ > -- Time sharing: The use of many people by the computer. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 08:51:58PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > I'm just following some of the standalone installation instructions
> > as per the wiki alongside a TeX Live installation, but there are a
> > few things that don't add up or I can't seem to add them up :).
> >
> > first, while I was trying to mtxrun --generate it returned
> >
> > /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory
> >
> > So I thought heck, perhaps by creating a symbolic link we'll call it
> > a day, but that wasn't enough, nope.
> >
> > This is is circa 21st century ladies and gentlemen!
> >
> > so I thought, alright, since there seems ot be a a problem with texlua,
> > let's also add it to path somehow.
>
> Did you source the `setuptex` script, which sets the correct path.
Of course I sourced it and complains about plain.tex
>
> > So with that out of the way, we'll move on to the next step and change
> > to a directory and try to call out mtxrun --generate again
> >
> > It returns:
> >
> > mtxrun --generate resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC'
> > set to '/home/ce/context/bin' resolvers | resolving | variable
>
> This appears to be the wrong mtxrun binary. You should include the PATH
> variable listed as part of the installation. It should point to
> `/home/ce/context/texmf-linux-64/bin` or something similar.
binaries.
Let's start over for the simple reason that texmfcnf.lua does not exist.
Not through a TeX Live infrastructure only installation anyway.
let's run ./install --modules=all and it rightly reports that
mtx-update | updating mtxrun for linux-64: rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x
'/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua'
'/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun'
mtx-update | run, rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x
'/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua'
'/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun'
rsync: [Receiver] change_dir#3
"/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin" failed: No such file or
directory (2)
rsync error: errors selecting input/output files, dirs (code 3) at main.c(827)
[Receiver=3.2.7]
resolvers | tds | no 'texmf-linux-64' under tree
'/home/ce/context-install/tex'
Now. Let's add the directories, correct?
If you were to look at the following
resolvers | resolving | using configuration specification
'home:texmf/web2c;{selfautoloc:,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:,selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf/web2c,$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c}'
resolvers | resolving |
resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path
'/home/ce/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin' from specification
'selfautoloc:'
you'd notice that is looking over and over for a texmfcnf.lua
But where is my texmfcnf.lua? Would you know? :) Because I don't. The
only instance of a texmfcnf.lua dates back to a prepackaged
installation that is no longer there anyway
it points to a prepackaged texlive which I'm not using and not planning
to.
and what I have under TEXMFHOME which doesn't amount to much anyway , or what's
important for the current issue is
amiga-pl.tcx cp8bit.tcx il2-t1.tcxmktex.opt tcvn-t5.tcx
cp1250cs.tcx empty.tcxkam-cs.tcxmktexdir texmf.cnf
cp1250pl.tcx fmtutil-hdr.cnf kam-t1.tcxmktexdir.opt updmap-hdr.cfg
cp1250t1.tcx fmtutil.cnf macce-pl.tcx mktexnam updmap.cfg
cp227.tcx il1-t1.tcx macce-t1.tcx mktexnam.opt viscii-t5.tcx
cp852-cs.tcx il2-cs.tcx maz-pl.tcxmktexupd
cp852-pl.tcx il2-pl.tcx mktex.cnf natural.tcx
which as you fully know, it doesn't help
What is TeX Live infrastructure doing is the question
It's besides the point to call out ./tlmgr install context here because
mtx is no longer there anyway
for what's worth
Welcome to TeX Live!
See ../texlive/2023/index.html for links to documentation.
The TeX Live web site (https://tug.org/texlive/) contains any updates and
corrections. TeX Live is a joint project
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > I'm just following some of the standalone installation instructions > as per the wiki alongside a TeX Live installation, but there are a > few things that don't add up or I can't seem to add them up :). > > first, while I was trying to mtxrun --generate it returned > > /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory > > So I thought heck, perhaps by creating a symbolic link we'll call it > a day, but that wasn't enough, nope. > > This is is circa 21st century ladies and gentlemen! > > so I thought, alright, since there seems ot be a a problem with texlua, > let's also add it to path somehow. Did you source the `setuptex` script, which sets the correct path. > So with that out of the way, we'll move on to the next step and change > to a directory and try to call out mtxrun --generate again > > It returns: > > mtxrun --generate resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' > set to '/home/ce/context/bin' resolvers | resolving | variable This appears to be the wrong mtxrun binary. You should include the PATH variable listed as part of the installation. It should point to `/home/ce/context/texmf-linux-64/bin` or something similar. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 'selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on weird path '/home/ce/context' from specification 'selfautodir:' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/share/texmf-dist/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/share/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/texmf-dist/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c' from specification '$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on weird path '/home/ce' from specification 'selfautoparent:' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/share/texmf-dist/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/share/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | warning: no lua configuration files found resolvers | resolving | no texmf paths are defined (using TEXMF) resolvers | resolving | mtxrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'scripts' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-cache.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-cache.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'scripts' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-caches.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-caches.lua' resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-cache.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'scripts' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-t-cache.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-t-cache.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'scripts' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-t-caches.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-t-caches.lua' resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-t-cache.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'scripts' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'cache.lua' using hash 'lua::cache.lua' mtxrun | unknown script 'cache.lua' or 'mtx-cache.lua' Of course and going solely by the above the part whenever it says resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/home/ce/context/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c' wont' find it anywhere because that dir does not exist. But remember that earlier, adding bin to path was necessary to avoid /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory message But even now while trying to find plain.tex I've come to the conclusion that it needs it or else fails altogether The problem is that I don't have plain.tex though. As a matter of fact the TeX Live installation I currently have, plain tex is nowhere to be seen, heck, not even latex but only a handful set of fmtutil fmtuitl-sys mktexfmt and updmap updmap-sys and the whole remainder of kpathsea but then again this in practice would not even be needed if at all. In other words, only the TeX Live infrastructure needed which shouldn't be a problem, right? But itis: a problem that is. Besides
[NTG-context] Trial to use LibreOffice Calc (+ python) to build ConTeXt customized environnements files
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF 2.0 standard documents now free
Am Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:02:10 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: >> You can put in arbitrary data and then download. >> I don’t think it will become any more free. >> >> indeed, but then: why don't we put them on the wiki site / another >> free site ? > >> Any legal restrictions ? Yes, the copy I got has in the footer Sold by the PDF Association to Ulrike Fischer | April 5, 2023 | Single user only, copying and networking prohibited. I wouldn't distribute it for the same reason I wouldn't distribute pdf copies of the TeXbook. > What happens when the sponsors withdraw? What should happen? I bought a copy at a very good price (0€) and now own it. If the sponsorship ends and the price goes up to 200 CHF again nothing changes for me. > What is there are updates (unlikely anyway). Amendments to ISO document typically have to be buyed too, e.g. amendment 1 (which is part of the bundled offered by pdfa) normally costs 17 CHF. Personally I think that the PDF Association made a very good job here (they worked hard on it), I'm quite grateful for it and I hope that there will more of these offers (personally I would like to get pdf/A-4 and the upcomming pdf/UA-2). -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Problems with building texlive/context from its sources
Dear developers, I am/become one of the texlive mantainers on flathub a more or less recent and new approach for establishing a linux packaging format. The flatpak packages are usually build from source and so is the texlive package. You can find it under https://github.com/flathub/org.freedesktop.Sdk.Extension.texlive/tree/branch/22.08 . The file https://github.com/flathub/org.freedesktop.Sdk.Extension.texlive/blob/branch/22.08/org.freedesktop.Sdk.Extension.texlive.yml is the build manifest which lists the files and commands/additional steps needed for the build process. The current build of texlive works well with pdflatex/lualatex/xelatex but with the context part I have some problems. Therefore, I would appreciate any help with the following questions: 1) Is context included in the texlive-20230313* tarballs or do I have to download it in an extra step? 2) If context is included in the texlive-20230313* tarballs, do I have to additionally download luametatex or is luametatex a part of context? 3) If luametatex is via context in the texlive-20230313* tarballs, how do I build it? Sorry for those (perhaps obvious) questions but I have to admit that I find the texlive building process quite confusing. Also, I could not find any installation guide that covers the scenario of building context within a texlive 2023 installation from its sources on linux. Thanks in advance and regards Jakob ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Chinese labels in lang-txt.lua
Hi Hans,
There are some inaccurate labels for Chinese in lang-txt.lua. Could you
please apply the following patches to it?
-
--- lang-txt.lua 2023-04-03 11:10:00.267720005 +0800
+++ new-lang-txt.lua 2023-04-03 11:03:24.645426080 +0800
@@ -1192,7 +1192,7 @@
["ar"]="ملحق ",
["be"]="Апендыцыт",
["ca"]="Apèndix ",
-["cn"]="附录",
+["cn"]="附录 ",
["cs"]="Příloha ",
["da"]="Bilag ",
["de"]="Anhang ",
@@ -1473,7 +1473,7 @@
["be"]="Глава ",
["bg"]="Eпизод ",
["ca"]="Capítol ",
-["cn"]={ "第", "章" },
+["cn"]={ "第 ", " 章" },
["cs"]="Kapitola ",
["da"]="",
["de"]="Kapitel ",
@@ -1774,7 +1774,7 @@
["be"]="Малюнак",
["bg"]="Фигура",
["ca"]="Figura ",
-["cn"]="图",
+["cn"]="图 ",
["cs"]="Obrázek ",
["da"]="Figur ",
["de"]="Abbildung ",
@@ -1925,7 +1925,7 @@
["be"]="Графіка ",
["bg"]="Графичен ",
["ca"]="Gràfica ",
-["cn"]="插图",
+["cn"]="插图 ",
["cs"]="Graf ",
["da"]="Grafik ",
["de"]="Grafik ",
@@ -2058,7 +2058,7 @@
["be"]="Інтэрмецца ",
["bg"]="Интермецо ",
["ca"]="Intermedi ",
-["cn"]="퉣",
+["cn"]="间奏 ",
["cs"]="Intermezzo ",
["da"]="Intermezzo ",
["de"]="Intermezzo ",
@@ -2395,7 +2395,7 @@
["be"]="радок ",
["bg"]="ред ",
["ca"]="línia ",
-["cn"]="行",
+["cn"]="行 ",
["cs"]="řádek ",
["da"]="linie ",
["de"]="Zeile ",
@@ -2441,7 +2441,7 @@
["be"]="радкi ",
["bg"]="редове ",
["ca"]="línies ",
-["cn"]="行",
+["cn"]="行 ",
["cs"]="řádky ",
["da"]="linier ",
["de"]="Zeilen ",
@@ -3002,7 +3002,7 @@
["be"]="Частка ",
["bg"]="Частка ",
["ca"]="Part ",
-["cn"]={ "第", "部分" },
+["cn"]={ "第 ", " 部分" },
["cs"]="Část ",
["da"]="Del ",
["de"]="Teil ",
@@ -3130,7 +3130,7 @@
["ar"]="فصل ",
["bg"]="Cекция ",
["ca"]="Secció ",
-["cn"]={ "第", "节" },
+["cn"]={ "第 ", " 节" },
["cs"]="Sekce ",
["da"]="",
["de"]="Abschnitt ",
@@ -3513,7 +3513,7 @@
["be"]="Табліца ",
["bg"]="Таблица ",
["ca"]="Taula ",
-["cn"]="表",
+["cn"]="表 ",
["cs"]="Tabulka ",
["da"]="Tabel ",
["de"]="Tabelle ",
@@ -3863,7 +3863,7 @@
["ar"]="الأشكال",
["be"]="Спіс ілюстрацый",
["ca"]="Figures",
-["cn"]="图形",
+["cn"]="图",
["cs"]="Seznam obrázků",
["da"]="Figurer",
["de"]="Abbildungen",
@@ -4046,7 +4046,7 @@
["be"]="Лагатыпы",
["bg"]="Логотипи",
["ca"]="Logotips",
-["cn"]="徽贬",
+["cn"]="徽标",
["cs"]="Loga",
["da"]="Logoer",
["de"]="Logos",
---
--
Best regards,
Li Yanrui
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Re: [NTG-context] update / punctuation / math
Here in Colorado, we need $\widecowboyhat$. Of course, care should be taken so that it typeset properly in right-to-left as well. Alan On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 10:27:41 +0200 Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, > > There have been some mails about punctuation spacing and a fix was > added to the engine that related to that. As tests showed it to be > okay so we made an update. It took a bit longer than normal because > we were in the middle of some other math stuff: additional fonts and > extensibles. > > Daniel Flipo maintains a few math fonts (like concrete, xcharter, > erewhon, kp, euler) and the last few weeks more extensive support for > extensibles was added and concrete became quite nice too, so these > fonts make a nice benchmark. As they are part of the lmtx install and > we made sure to support them. > > In the process we adapted our 2023 roadmap of which part is attached > (we included an example end then decided to show of concrete). > > When we go through the process of 'upgrading' we noticed some > interesting names for symbols and 'constructs'. Quite some come from > plain and/or amsmath (in the past taco and aditya did some porting to > context) and we're not always sure if something is really used (or > even what it was intended for) so if you notice something weird or > missing, let us know. Examples are welcome too. It might also be that > something can go away because it's obsolete or never needed (so far > we could resist te kick-out-symbole-name temptation when it comes to > symbol names that we think no sane user can remember or imagine to be > there). > > When often add extra tests to the test suite (math subsection). > > Hans & Mikael > > ps. Alan and I are still messing around with some cross referencing. > That code is still experimental and can have issues that we're > looking at but hard to nail down (huge complex cross-referencing > documents). More about that later. > > == > > We added the tex of the pdf below > > == extract from roadmap == > > \usemodule[article-basic,abbreviations-logos] > > \setupbodyfont[concrete] > > \starttext > > \startsubject[title=Math in \CONTEXT\ roadmap] > > \startitemize[n] > > \startitem > After playing with math support for more than a year, we have > come to the > conclusion that it is time to move on. We have already discarded > italic correction and now are replacing rules with extensibles. Much > was already in > place (and applied) but experiences with type one antykwas made > us review > some \OPENTYPE\ fonts. Not using rules makes some of them look > better. The > effect is subtle and probably not \AMS\ compliant, but we think > that it will > work out well for simple math like fractions of decimal numbers. > Consequently, we have added to our shrinking to-do list the > burden to investigate whether we can remove those obsolete code paths > from the engine. > After all, who needs italic correction, who prefers ugly rules > to beautiful > glyphs, and who understands all these font parameters? > Furthermore, after all > these years, we don't expect \OPENTYPE\ font and \UNICODE\ math > technologies > to improve much; we don't know if \MICROSOFT\ is developing > their technology > further at all. Therefore, we are confident that what we are > doing is the way > it should have been done when math was upgraded. Hopefully users > will notice > the improvements. > \stopitem > > \startitem > Math also means physics and units (that topic was brought up > recently on the > list by Gavin). Therefore, because we're in cleanup mode, we > decided to eliminate some more. With \ISO\ now in place for a long > time, we are going to > ignore the existence of the inch as unit from now on. The unit > will probably > remain in the engine for nostalgic reasons, but it will no be > accepted in > MWE. Instead, we will provide some more modern, culturally > correct, kid-friendly units that we will use in examples, manuals and > such. Because > the four-person strong team dealing with this wants to avoid > making mistakes, > we will go through a careful and scientifically sound process of > calibration > first, using a selected tex savvy audience. We expect these new > units to be > stable a month from now. Believe it or not, in the process of > documenting all > this, we found a buglet in the new math dimension spacing, so it > has already > paid off. Expect to hear more in a month or so, and enjoy your > inches as long > as you
Re: [NTG-context] update / punctuation / math
Cute, as always today :-) Willi > On 1 Apr 2023, at 10:27, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > > Hi, > > There have been some mails about punctuation spacing and a fix was added to > the engine that related to that. As tests showed it to be okay so we made an > update. It took a bit longer than normal because we were in the middle of > some other math stuff: additional fonts and extensibles. > > Daniel Flipo maintains a few math fonts (like concrete, xcharter, erewhon, > kp, euler) and the last few weeks more extensive support for extensibles was > added and concrete became quite nice too, so these fonts make a nice > benchmark. As they are part of the lmtx install and we made sure to support > them. > > In the process we adapted our 2023 roadmap of which part is attached (we > included an example end then decided to show of concrete). > > When we go through the process of 'upgrading' we noticed some interesting > names for symbols and 'constructs'. Quite some come from plain and/or amsmath > (in the past taco and aditya did some porting to context) and we're not > always sure if something is really used (or even what it was intended for) so > if you notice something weird or missing, let us know. Examples are welcome > too. It might also be that something can go away because it's obsolete or > never needed (so far we could resist te kick-out-symbole-name temptation when > it comes to symbol names that we think no sane user can remember or imagine > to be there). > > When often add extra tests to the test suite (math subsection). > > Hans & Mikael > > ps. Alan and I are still messing around with some cross referencing. That > code is still experimental and can have issues that we're looking at but hard > to nail down (huge complex cross-referencing documents). More about that > later. > > == > > We added the tex of the pdf below > > == extract from roadmap == > > \usemodule[article-basic,abbreviations-logos] > > \setupbodyfont[concrete] > > \starttext > > \startsubject[title=Math in \CONTEXT\ roadmap] > > \startitemize[n] > > \startitem >After playing with math support for more than a year, we have come to the >conclusion that it is time to move on. We have already discarded italic >correction and now are replacing rules with extensibles. Much was already > in >place (and applied) but experiences with type one antykwas made us review >some \OPENTYPE\ fonts. Not using rules makes some of them look better. The >effect is subtle and probably not \AMS\ compliant, but we think that it > will >work out well for simple math like fractions of decimal numbers. >Consequently, we have added to our shrinking to-do list the burden to >investigate whether we can remove those obsolete code paths from the > engine. >After all, who needs italic correction, who prefers ugly rules to beautiful >glyphs, and who understands all these font parameters? Furthermore, after > all >these years, we don't expect \OPENTYPE\ font and \UNICODE\ math > technologies >to improve much; we don't know if \MICROSOFT\ is developing their > technology >further at all. Therefore, we are confident that what we are doing is the > way >it should have been done when math was upgraded. Hopefully users will > notice >the improvements. > \stopitem > > \startitem >Math also means physics and units (that topic was brought up recently on > the >list by Gavin). Therefore, because we're in cleanup mode, we decided to >eliminate some more. With \ISO\ now in place for a long time, we are going > to >ignore the existence of the inch as unit from now on. The unit will > probably >remain in the engine for nostalgic reasons, but it will no be accepted in >MWE. Instead, we will provide some more modern, culturally correct, >kid-friendly units that we will use in examples, manuals and such. Because >the four-person strong team dealing with this wants to avoid making > mistakes, >we will go through a careful and scientifically sound process of > calibration >first, using a selected tex savvy audience. We expect these new units to be >stable a month from now. Believe it or not, in the process of documenting > all >this, we found a buglet in the new math dimension spacing, so it has > already >paid off. Expect to hear more in a month or so, and enjoy your inches as > long >as you still can. In case you wonder how this relates to math other than >mentioned: the math subsystem has 'mu' as adaptive unit, and that inspired > is >
[NTG-context] update / punctuation / math
Hi, There have been some mails about punctuation spacing and a fix was added to the engine that related to that. As tests showed it to be okay so we made an update. It took a bit longer than normal because we were in the middle of some other math stuff: additional fonts and extensibles. Daniel Flipo maintains a few math fonts (like concrete, xcharter, erewhon, kp, euler) and the last few weeks more extensive support for extensibles was added and concrete became quite nice too, so these fonts make a nice benchmark. As they are part of the lmtx install and we made sure to support them. In the process we adapted our 2023 roadmap of which part is attached (we included an example end then decided to show of concrete). When we go through the process of 'upgrading' we noticed some interesting names for symbols and 'constructs'. Quite some come from plain and/or amsmath (in the past taco and aditya did some porting to context) and we're not always sure if something is really used (or even what it was intended for) so if you notice something weird or missing, let us know. Examples are welcome too. It might also be that something can go away because it's obsolete or never needed (so far we could resist te kick-out-symbole-name temptation when it comes to symbol names that we think no sane user can remember or imagine to be there). When often add extra tests to the test suite (math subsection). Hans & Mikael ps. Alan and I are still messing around with some cross referencing. That code is still experimental and can have issues that we're looking at but hard to nail down (huge complex cross-referencing documents). More about that later. == We added the tex of the pdf below == extract from roadmap == \usemodule[article-basic,abbreviations-logos] \setupbodyfont[concrete] \starttext \startsubject[title=Math in \CONTEXT\ roadmap] \startitemize[n] \startitem After playing with math support for more than a year, we have come to the conclusion that it is time to move on. We have already discarded italic correction and now are replacing rules with extensibles. Much was already in place (and applied) but experiences with type one antykwas made us review some \OPENTYPE\ fonts. Not using rules makes some of them look better. The effect is subtle and probably not \AMS\ compliant, but we think that it will work out well for simple math like fractions of decimal numbers. Consequently, we have added to our shrinking to-do list the burden to investigate whether we can remove those obsolete code paths from the engine. After all, who needs italic correction, who prefers ugly rules to beautiful glyphs, and who understands all these font parameters? Furthermore, after all these years, we don't expect \OPENTYPE\ font and \UNICODE\ math technologies to improve much; we don't know if \MICROSOFT\ is developing their technology further at all. Therefore, we are confident that what we are doing is the way it should have been done when math was upgraded. Hopefully users will notice the improvements. \stopitem \startitem Math also means physics and units (that topic was brought up recently on the list by Gavin). Therefore, because we're in cleanup mode, we decided to eliminate some more. With \ISO\ now in place for a long time, we are going to ignore the existence of the inch as unit from now on. The unit will probably remain in the engine for nostalgic reasons, but it will no be accepted in MWE. Instead, we will provide some more modern, culturally correct, kid-friendly units that we will use in examples, manuals and such. Because the four-person strong team dealing with this wants to avoid making mistakes, we will go through a careful and scientifically sound process of calibration first, using a selected tex savvy audience. We expect these new units to be stable a month from now. Believe it or not, in the process of documenting all this, we found a buglet in the new math dimension spacing, so it has already paid off. Expect to hear more in a month or so, and enjoy your inches as long as you still can. In case you wonder how this relates to math other than mentioned: the math subsystem has 'mu' as adaptive unit, and that inspired is to come up with one for text (in addition to two new more or less fixed units). \stopitem \startitem The math family model is a fundamental concept in \TEX\ but we think we can do without. First of all, \OPENTYPE\ math fonts have (design) script and scriptscript sizes built in, so for that we have one family. Second, only full bold (heavy) makes sense as companion for regular math which is something that in practice we can support otherwise. So, this makes us consider dropping families altogether which then provides (mem) space for
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 04:40:27PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 3/31/2023 1:40 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > > so why not use lucida math fonts? > > > > I have. But only with a couple of math fonts. I don't have all these fonts. > > It really pays off to buy the official lucida opentype package. I'll do that eventually. > > > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 3 files: lucidanewmathitalic.ttf, > > lucidanewmathsymbol.ttf, lucidabrightregular.otf > > mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 6 > > instances, 3 shared in backend, 1 common vectors, 2 common hashes, load > > time 16.733 seconds > > I never heard of these math ones. Did you get these from yandytex (no longer > around) or TUG (the official distributer of lucida opentype math)? Anyway, > as we fine tune math fonts for sure you get suboptimal results (or even > wrong output). Mikael and I put quite a bit of care into lucida opentype > math. > > > I do agree with you in that that loading time is perhaps unacceptable but… > > ... > > You ought to specify that must be only after subsequent callbacks. I just > > tried it with a one liner file of \setupbodyfont[lucida] and (looking > > around in disbelief) it took a whooping ahem > > fonts > names > skipped files: 164 > > fonts > names > duplicate files : 164 > > fonts > names > total scan time : 16.487 seconds > > I have no clue, unless that relates to your font path including some home > dir which gets scanned every time for whatever reason and that has tens of > thousands of files. I can process the 350+ page luametatex manual twice in > these 16 seconds and that one loads quite some (also math) fonts and my > laptop is not a fancy 2023 one > > > before it produced even error messages. > > > > beating me for 2 seconds. Great. And then it restricted my freedom by saying > > > > «Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. > > This is > > normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. > > Your font > > set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.» > > that's pretty clear: you don't load a math font at all, maybe some text font > pretending it is math > > > Sorry, but sorry doesn't cut it here. > > it does: no proper math font found so reason to complain > > > I guess it must have been referring to \strc_formulas_place_number > > \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty > > \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter > > \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname > > dunno, that's numbering, not math > > > Okay. So I tried another file. This time around with only > > > > \setupbodyfont[lucida] > > > > \starttext > > $ test $ > > \stoptext > > > > and then the output message was «Somewhere in the math formula just ended, > > you used the stated character from an > > undefined font family. For example, plain TeX doesn't allow \it or \sl in > > subscripts. Proceed, and I'll try to forget that I needed that character.» > > > > There's not even a fallback to cmr or any other font. > > sure, why should it, you want lucida so better quit with an error than > kicking in some font; actually cmr math fonts have been obsoleted for way > over a decade by latin modern math fonts in 32 bit font engines I was actually thinking to ask you about that, and by falling back to cmr math font that perhaps would expedite loading time along the way. Thank you for the info on that last sentence. I didn't know. > > > There was not even a personalized touch in the output. That message sounds > > like one of these new GPT-chat features. Dry. When I read that «Proceed, > > and I'll try to forget it…» part the first thing I thought was: yeah, I'll > > proceed by removing that file altogether and you'll forget it for sure . > > that message is part of 'reference tex the program' for over 40 years so if > chatgpt would come up with it, it would do so by having parsed plenty of tex > sources instead of inventing it (and when it comes to answering tex related > questions chargpt is pretty unreliable, but that's another topic) > > > But instaed I looked at it and though to myself «how much has changed?!» In > > plain TeX (I have forgotten it a bit) but I can still type > > > \par > > > $test$ > > > \end > > > > and it'll produce a dvi file in return. > > a lot has changed: opentyp
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/31/2023 1:40 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: so why not use lucida math fonts? I have. But only with a couple of math fonts. I don't have all these fonts. It really pays off to buy the official lucida opentype package. mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 3 files: lucidanewmathitalic.ttf, lucidanewmathsymbol.ttf, lucidabrightregular.otf mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 6 instances, 3 shared in backend, 1 common vectors, 2 common hashes, load time 16.733 seconds I never heard of these math ones. Did you get these from yandytex (no longer around) or TUG (the official distributer of lucida opentype math)? Anyway, as we fine tune math fonts for sure you get suboptimal results (or even wrong output). Mikael and I put quite a bit of care into lucida opentype math. I do agree with you in that that loading time is perhaps unacceptable but… > ... You ought to specify that must be only after subsequent callbacks. I just tried it with a one liner file of \setupbodyfont[lucida] and (looking around in disbelief) it took a whooping ahem fonts > names > skipped files: 164 fonts > names > duplicate files : 164 fonts > names > total scan time : 16.487 seconds I have no clue, unless that relates to your font path including some home dir which gets scanned every time for whatever reason and that has tens of thousands of files. I can process the 350+ page luametatex manual twice in these 16 seconds and that one loads quite some (also math) fonts and my laptop is not a fancy 2023 one before it produced even error messages. beating me for 2 seconds. Great. And then it restricted my freedom by saying «Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This is normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your font set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.» that's pretty clear: you don't load a math font at all, maybe some text font pretending it is math Sorry, but sorry doesn't cut it here. it does: no proper math font found so reason to complain I guess it must have been referring to \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname dunno, that's numbering, not math Okay. So I tried another file. This time around with only \setupbodyfont[lucida] \starttext $ test $ \stoptext and then the output message was «Somewhere in the math formula just ended, you used the stated character from an undefined font family. For example, plain TeX doesn't allow \it or \sl in subscripts. Proceed, and I'll try to forget that I needed that character.» There's not even a fallback to cmr or any other font. sure, why should it, you want lucida so better quit with an error than kicking in some font; actually cmr math fonts have been obsoleted for way over a decade by latin modern math fonts in 32 bit font engines There was not even a personalized touch in the output. That message sounds like one of these new GPT-chat features. Dry. When I read that «Proceed, and I'll try to forget it…» part the first thing I thought was: yeah, I'll proceed by removing that file altogether and you'll forget it for sure . that message is part of 'reference tex the program' for over 40 years so if chatgpt would come up with it, it would do so by having parsed plenty of tex sources instead of inventing it (and when it comes to answering tex related questions chargpt is pretty unreliable, but that's another topic) But instaed I looked at it and though to myself «how much has changed?!» In plain TeX (I have forgotten it a bit) but I can still type > \par > $test$ > \end and it'll produce a dvi file in return. a lot has changed: opentype math, unicode, more demands but indeed there is nothing against using plain tex with cmr and dvi fonts if that suits well; and plain tex will always be faster than context (or latex) just like pdftex with 8 bit fonts is faster than luatex with 32 bit fonts (with luametatex sitting in between wrt performance) anyway, i bet that if you want to use lucida with plain you also have to do some work and it will complain as loud as luametatex when th efont parameters are not set Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / htt
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
t restricted my freedom by saying «Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This is normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your font set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.» Sorry, but sorry doesn't cut it here. I guess it must have been referring to \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname Okay. So I tried another file. This time around with only \setupbodyfont[lucida] \starttext $ test $ \stoptext and then the output message was «Somewhere in the math formula just ended, you used the stated character from an undefined font family. For example, plain TeX doesn't allow \it or \sl in subscripts. Proceed, and I'll try to forget that I needed that character.» There's not even a fallback to cmr or any other font. There was not even a personalized touch in the output. That message sounds like one of these new GPT-chat features. Dry. When I read that «Proceed, and I'll try to forget it…» part the first thing I thought was: yeah, I'll proceed by removing that file altogether and you'll forget it for sure . But instaed I looked at it and though to myself «how much has changed?!» In plain TeX (I have forgotten it a bit) but I can still type > \par > $test$ > \end and it'll produce a dvi file in return. > > (so 100 times less load time here) > > Hans > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ -- New systems generate new problems. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Numbering of figures after defining a new float
Thank you Alan, I tried many different things but as Wolfgang pointed out I had
a mistake in the float definition!
Kind regards
WIlli
> On 31 Mar 2023, at 00:08, Alan Braslau via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Have you tried:
>
> \setuplist [figure] [partnumber=no]
>
> ...
>
> \placelistoffigures [criterium=part]
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:09:15 +0200
> Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>>
>> I am still working on the previously mentioned project, consisting
>> out of different parts. There are about 25 chapters in each part and
>> most of the chapters contain figures. When using the predefined
>> figure environment, then all figures in the figure-list are placed
>> correctly though at each part the numbering restarts.
>>
>> Now I tried to implement for each part its own float environment,
>> which enables me to produce a figure-list per part with subtitels.
>> How ever in the newly defined floats there is no continuous numbering
>> i.e. chapternumber.serialnumber. Instead each float get the chapter
>> number only.
>>
>> How to get the numbering right?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Willi
>>
>> The following example shows what happens:
>>
>> \useMPlibrary[dum]
>>
>> \definefloat[Afigure][Afigures][figures]
>> \definefloat[Bfigure][Bfigures][figures]
>>
>> \setuphead
>> [part]
>> [placehead=yes,
>> page=yes]
>>
>> \setuphead
>> [chapter]
>> [page=no]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \starttitle[title=List of figures]
>> \startsubject[title=Figures (predefined figureenvironment)]
>>\placelistoffigures
>> \stopsubject
>>
>> \startsubject[title=Figures A]
>> \placelistofAfigures
>> \stopsubject
>>
>> \startsubject[title=Figures B]
>>\placelistofBfigures
>> \stopsubject
>> \stoptitle
>>
>> \startpart[title=Part ONE]
>> \startchapter[title={Chapter one in part one}] %les21
>>
>> \startplaceAfigure
>> [location=left,
>> reference=fig:dumA,
>> title={Dummy A}]
>> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>> \stopplaceAfigure
>>
>> \startplacefigure
>> [location=left,
>> reference=fig:dumB,
>> title={Dummy B}]
>> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>> \stopplacefigure
>>
>> \startsection[title=Section A]
>>
>> \startplaceAfigure
>> [location=left,
>> reference=fig:dumC,
>> title={Dummy C}]
>> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>> \stopplaceAfigure
>>
>> \stopsection
>> \stopchapter
>> \stoppart
>>
>> \startpart[title=Part TWO]
>> \startchapter[title=Chapter one in part two]
>>
>> \startplaceBfigure
>> [location=left,
>> reference=fig:dumD,
>> title={Dummy D}]
>> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>> \stopplaceBfigure
>> \stopchapter
>> \stoppart
>> \stoptext
>
> ___
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
> Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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> ___
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
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Re: [NTG-context] Numbering of figures after defining a new float
Have you tried:
\setuplist [figure] [partnumber=no]
...
\placelistoffigures [criterium=part]
Alan
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:09:15 +0200
Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
>
> I am still working on the previously mentioned project, consisting
> out of different parts. There are about 25 chapters in each part and
> most of the chapters contain figures. When using the predefined
> figure environment, then all figures in the figure-list are placed
> correctly though at each part the numbering restarts.
>
> Now I tried to implement for each part its own float environment,
> which enables me to produce a figure-list per part with subtitels.
> How ever in the newly defined floats there is no continuous numbering
> i.e. chapternumber.serialnumber. Instead each float get the chapter
> number only.
>
> How to get the numbering right?
>
> Kind regards
> Willi
>
> The following example shows what happens:
>
> \useMPlibrary[dum]
>
> \definefloat[Afigure][Afigures][figures]
> \definefloat[Bfigure][Bfigures][figures]
>
> \setuphead
> [part]
> [placehead=yes,
>page=yes]
>
> \setuphead
> [chapter]
> [page=no]
>
> \starttext
>
> \starttitle[title=List of figures]
> \startsubject[title=Figures (predefined figureenvironment)]
> \placelistoffigures
> \stopsubject
>
> \startsubject[title=Figures A]
> \placelistofAfigures
> \stopsubject
>
> \startsubject[title=Figures B]
> \placelistofBfigures
> \stopsubject
> \stoptitle
>
> \startpart[title=Part ONE]
> \startchapter[title={Chapter one in part one}] %les21
>
> \startplaceAfigure
> [location=left,
>reference=fig:dumA,
>title={Dummy A}]
> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
> \stopplaceAfigure
>
> \startplacefigure
> [location=left,
>reference=fig:dumB,
>title={Dummy B}]
> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
> \stopplacefigure
>
> \startsection[title=Section A]
>
> \startplaceAfigure
> [location=left,
>reference=fig:dumC,
>title={Dummy C}]
> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
> \stopplaceAfigure
>
> \stopsection
> \stopchapter
> \stoppart
>
> \startpart[title=Part TWO]
> \startchapter[title=Chapter one in part two]
>
> \startplaceBfigure
> [location=left,
>reference=fig:dumD,
>title={Dummy D}]
> {\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
> \stopplaceBfigure
> \stopchapter
> \stoppart
> \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Numbering of figures after defining a new float
Willi Egger via ntg-context schrieb am 30.03.2023 um 17:09: Hello everybody, I am still working on the previously mentioned project, consisting out of different parts. There are about 25 chapters in each part and most of the chapters contain figures. When using the predefined figure environment, then all figures in the figure-list are placed correctly though at each part the numbering restarts. Now I tried to implement for each part its own float environment, which enables me to produce a figure-list per part with subtitels. How ever in the newly defined floats there is no continuous numbering i.e. chapternumber.serialnumber. Instead each float get the chapter number only. How to get the numbering right? Kind regards Willi The following example shows what happens: \useMPlibrary[dum] \definefloat[Afigure][Afigures][figures] \definefloat[Bfigure][Bfigures][figures] The name of the existing float instance is figure (without s). \definefloat[Afigure][Afigures][figure] \definefloat[Bfigure][Bfigures][figure] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Numbering of figures after defining a new float
Hi Hraban, thanks for your answer, however this is not precisely what I am talking about. If you have 3 figures in chapter 1, you want them to be numbered as 1.1 , 1.2 , 1.3. However with floats defined with \definefloat[Afigure][Afigures][figure] they all get solely the chapter number: 1. Kind regards Willi > On 30 Mar 2023, at 18:01, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > wrote: > > Am 30.03.23 um 17:09 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context: >> I am still working on the previously mentioned project, consisting out of >> different parts. There are about 25 chapters in each part and most of the >> chapters contain figures. When using the predefined figure environment, then >> all figures in the figure-list are placed correctly though at each part the >> numbering restarts. >> Now I tried to implement for each part its own float environment, which >> enables me to produce a figure-list per part with subtitels. How ever in the >> newly defined floats there is no continuous numbering i.e. >> chapternumber.serialnumber. Instead each float get the chapter number only. >> How to get the numbering right? > > You can define the resetting of numbering with > \setupcaption[Afigure][way=bytext|bypart|bychapter]. > > For the list, \placelist[Afigure][criterium=chapter] (or local?) should work. > > HTH, > Hraban > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Numbering of figures after defining a new float
Am 30.03.23 um 17:09 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context: I am still working on the previously mentioned project, consisting out of different parts. There are about 25 chapters in each part and most of the chapters contain figures. When using the predefined figure environment, then all figures in the figure-list are placed correctly though at each part the numbering restarts. Now I tried to implement for each part its own float environment, which enables me to produce a figure-list per part with subtitels. How ever in the newly defined floats there is no continuous numbering i.e. chapternumber.serialnumber. Instead each float get the chapter number only. How to get the numbering right? You can define the resetting of numbering with \setupcaption[Afigure][way=bytext|bypart|bychapter]. For the list, \placelist[Afigure][criterium=chapter] (or local?) should work. HTH, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Numbering of figures after defining a new float
Hello everybody,
I am still working on the previously mentioned project, consisting out of
different parts. There are about 25 chapters in each part and most of the
chapters contain figures. When using the predefined figure environment, then
all figures in the figure-list are placed correctly though at each part the
numbering restarts.
Now I tried to implement for each part its own float environment, which enables
me to produce a figure-list per part with subtitels. How ever in the newly
defined floats there is no continuous numbering i.e.
chapternumber.serialnumber. Instead each float get the chapter number only.
How to get the numbering right?
Kind regards
Willi
The following example shows what happens:
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\definefloat[Afigure][Afigures][figures]
\definefloat[Bfigure][Bfigures][figures]
\setuphead
[part]
[placehead=yes,
page=yes]
\setuphead
[chapter]
[page=no]
\starttext
\starttitle[title=List of figures]
\startsubject[title=Figures (predefined figureenvironment)]
\placelistoffigures
\stopsubject
\startsubject[title=Figures A]
\placelistofAfigures
\stopsubject
\startsubject[title=Figures B]
\placelistofBfigures
\stopsubject
\stoptitle
\startpart[title=Part ONE]
\startchapter[title={Chapter one in part one}] %les21
\startplaceAfigure
[location=left,
reference=fig:dumA,
title={Dummy A}]
{\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
\stopplaceAfigure
\startplacefigure
[location=left,
reference=fig:dumB,
title={Dummy B}]
{\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
\stopplacefigure
\startsection[title=Section A]
\startplaceAfigure
[location=left,
reference=fig:dumC,
title={Dummy C}]
{\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
\stopplaceAfigure
\stopsection
\stopchapter
\stoppart
\startpart[title=Part TWO]
\startchapter[title=Chapter one in part two]
\startplaceBfigure
[location=left,
reference=fig:dumD,
title={Dummy D}]
{\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.6\textwidth]}
\stopplaceBfigure
\stopchapter
\stoppart
\stoptext
test.pdf
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[NTG-context] How to prefix the list of figures with part number?
Hello again,
My project has different parts. Each part contains a whole list of figures. At
the beginning of the book I would like to place a list of all figures. Hoever
they should be prefixed with the part number. I can not figure out how to
achieve this.
May be someone can hint me…
Cheers
Willi
\setuplist[figures][pageprefixsegments=part:chapter] % Pageprefix?
\setuphead[part][placehead=yes]
\starttext
\startpart[title=part one]
\starttitle[title=Contents]
\placelist[part,chapter][criterium=all]
\startsubject[title=Figures]
\placelistoffigures[criterium=all]
\stopsubject
\stoptitle
\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
\input knuth
\startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
\input ward
\startplacefigure
[location=middle,
title=Cow 1]
{\externalfigure[cow][width=7cm]}
\stopplacefigure
\stopsubject
\stopchapter
\stoppart
\startpart[title=Part two]
\startchapter[title=Myotherchapter]
\startplacefigure
[location=middle,
title=Cow 2]
{\externalfigure[cow][width=7cm]}
\stopplacefigure
\stopchapter
\stoppart
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] natural table oddities
Working on the documentation for “natural tables” I stumbled upon a few oddities/problems. I’d like to know if there are misunderstandings on my part or if the behavior is intentional. BTW enattab.pdf is missing in the LMTX distribution. ## Options * before/after/inbetween values don’t appear anywhere. * spaceinbetween should insert between rows, but nothing happens. * splitoffset doesn’t seem to change anything. * What’s samepage for? ## Addressing cells * It’s not possible to address single cells with \setupTABLE, or is it? * There’s \setupTABLE[header], but not "footer" (or "section"); since we have TABLEhead and TABLEfoot, IMO "head" and "foot" would make sense. * Row 1 is the first row of TABLEbody. I couldn’t find how to address the first line of TABLEbody. * Is it possible, and how, to use odd/even only for the body? * If I format a column, e.g. \setupTABLE[c][-1][color=red], body and foot are formatted, but not the same column in header. (I found out, if I use TD instead of TH in the header, it works.) * I don’t understand the addressing options "start" and "one". ## Formatting * maxwidth doesn’t seem to have an effect, neither on the whole table nor on a column. * textwidth works only for the whole table. * width gets stretched if option=stretch; i.e. you can’t fix the width of single cells or columns. ## Page breaking * What’s the difference between [split=repeat] and [split=yes,header=repeat], i.e. which sense makes the header option)? * Is there an option to repeat the footer (as the last line of each page)? (I’d imagine to use it in an invoice or similar calculation for a subtotal – that would imply some more magic…) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Did dotless i disappear ?
Hi Pablo, Hans, Wolfgang,
Indeed, thanks to you I see that in ConTeXt there exist plenty of solutions for
the problem I reported. That’s really impressive !
Best regards : Otared
> On 13 Mar 2023, at 20:19, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> On 3/13/2023 4:28 PM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> I just noticed that the dotless i « \i » is not anymore recognized in
>> ConTeXt. Of course one can nowadays find other ways to have it typeset, but
>> in old documents which are included as inputs one has to correct this
>> manually (for instance in French « connaître » was typed as « conn\^{\i}tre
>> »).
>> Here is an example.
>> \starttext
>> Bío Bío (works fine…)
>> B\'{\i}o B\'{\i}o % this gives an error
>> \stoptext
> I'll add checking for the \i too. It's all part of a parser. Think
>
> \chr {e acute}
> \chr {i circumflex}
> \^{i} \^i \^{\i}
> \^{a} \"{a}
> \withcircumflex{a}
> \withdiaeresis{a}
>
> a bit messy code due to reuse of all kin dof mechanisms.
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Did dotless i disappear ?
On 3/13/2023 4:28 PM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans,
I just noticed that the dotless i « \i » is not anymore recognized in ConTeXt.
Of course one can nowadays find other ways to have it typeset, but in old
documents which are included as inputs one has to correct this manually (for
instance in French « connaître » was typed as « conn\^{\i}tre »).
Here is an example.
\starttext
Bío Bío (works fine…)
B\'{\i}o B\'{\i}o % this gives an error
\stoptext
I'll add checking for the \i too. It's all part of a parser. Think
\chr {e acute}
\chr {i circumflex}
\^{i} \^i \^{\i}
\^{a} \"{a}
\withcircumflex{a}
\withdiaeresis{a}
a bit messy code due to reuse of all kin dof mechanisms.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] regular online meet-up
Reminder: This is in a few hours. For my part I’d like to know what was in the latest updates and maybe discuss the page breaking in floats (possible with tables, how about text background boxes – didn’t try yet, just curious). Hraban Am 04.03.23 um 18:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context: You’re invited to join on Wednesday, March 8th, 15:00 CET (UTC+1) at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke (same, but shorter: https://v34h.de/ctxmtg) ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome! Next meeting will be on April 12th. (Same blurb as every time:) [Howto] * No special software installation required; most modern browsers should work (WebRTC required). * Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement, * enter your name, * click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first), * click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio. * Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom. * Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" button, bottom right. * If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage presentations" behind the "plus" button. Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t kill someone else’s presentation. [Technical hints] * Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise for everyone). * Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections. * If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use the text chat. * Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth. * BigBlueButton documentation applies: https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/ [Netiquette] * Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers. * Mute your microphone while you’re not talking. * It’s nice to show your face at least when you join. * If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing. * The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you... See you, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Typeset multiple pictures not in a strict matrix (\startfloatcombination)
Hi,
I'm trying to typeset several pictures as a floatcombination but not in
the form of strict cells of a matrix.
Here is some ASCII art to demonstrate the positions of the pictures:
---
| |
| |
---
a) Some caption
-
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
-
b) fooc) foo
Figure 1.1: Foo Bar
I tried to typeset it with this code (based on
https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/502903):
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\setupcombinations[alternative=text]
\definefloat[subfigure][local=yes]
\setupcaption[subfigure][numberconversion=a]
\setuplabeltext[subfigure=]
\appendvalue{stopplacefigure}{\resetcounter[subfigure]}
\starttext
\startplacefigure[title=Test]
\startfloatcombination[nx=1, ny=2]
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\stopplacesubfigure
\startfloatcombination[nx=2, ny=1]
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\stopplacesubfigure
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\stopplacesubfigure
\stopfloatcombination
\stopfloatcombination
\stopplacefigure
\stoptext
However, this does not work (the pictures are all in one row).
Do you have some advice?
Gerion
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Re: [NTG-context] Description together with itemize, luametatex
Am Montag, 6. März 2023, 14:34:28 CET schrieb Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2023, Gerion Entrup via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to use a description environment in conjunction with an
> > itemize with the latest luametatex. Is this supposed to work?
> >
> > Here is an MWE:
> > ```
> > \definedescription[desc][headstyle=bold]
> >
> > \starttext
> > Foo
> >
> > \desc{Some title} Some text
> > \startitemize
> > \item Some item
> > \stopitemize
> >
> > \stoptext
>
> Use \startdesc ... \stopdesc
>
> \definedescription[desc][headstyle=bold]
>
> \starttext
> Foo
>
> \startdesc[title={Some title}]
> Some text
> \startitemize
> \item Some item
> \stopitemize
> \stopdesc
>
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Visual highlighted text with title, mix of enumeration and framedtext
Hi, I want to typeset a "Good to know" section that is visually highlighted and can spawn across multiple pages. In LaTeX this would be possible with the mdframed package. See the attached screenshot for an example how it might look like (it is copied out of page 4: Definition: Inhomogeneous linear of the mdframed documentation: http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/mdframed/mdframed.pdf) I have searched in the wiki and found \defineenumeration: This is near of that what I need. However I explicitly does not need an enumeration (so no number or counter). Also I am not sure if I can set a background and so on. The other possibility is \defineframedtext. For example this goes much in the direction that I want: \definecolor[gbackground][s=0.98] \defineframedtext[gtk][frame=on, offset=5pt, background=color, width=0.95\textwidth, backgroundcolor=gbackground] However, there does not seem a possibility to define a title and it seems to not work on multiple pages. Is there a mix of an enumeration and framedtext that can produce something like in the attached picture? Best, Gerion signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Description together with itemize, luametatex
Hi,
I'm trying to use a description environment in conjunction with an
itemize with the latest luametatex. Is this supposed to work?
Here is an MWE:
```
\definedescription[desc][headstyle=bold]
\starttext
Foo
\desc{Some title} Some text
\startitemize
\item Some item
\stopitemize
\stoptext
```
This currently fails with:
```
resolvers | formats | executing runner 'run luametatex format':
/home/gerion/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/luametatex --jobname="./test.tex"
--fmt=/home/gerion/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.fmt
--lua=/home/gerion/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.lui
--c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./test.tex" --c:input="./test.tex"
--c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9
--c:texmfbinpath="/home/gerion/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin"
system >
system > ConTeXt ver: 2023.02.23 21:26 LMTX fmt: 2023.3.4 int:
english/english
system >
system > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
open source > level 1, order 1, name
'/home/gerion/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source> level 1, order 1, name
'/home/gerion/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system > files > jobname './test', input './test.tex', result './test'
fonts > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages > language 'en' is active
open source > level 1, order 2, name './test.tex'
fonts > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts > 'fallback modern rm 12pt' is loaded
lua error > lua error on line 8 in file ./test.tex:
registered function call [809]:
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/strc-num.lua:448: attempt to
index a nil value (local 'd')
stack traceback:
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/strc-num.lua:448: in
function <...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/strc-num.lua:442>
(...tail calls...)
1 \definedescription[desc][headstyle=bold]
2
3 \starttext
4 Foo
5
6 \desc{Some title} Some text
7 \startitemize
8 >> \item Some item
9 \stopitemize
10
11 \stoptext
12
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
```
Best,
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Re: [NTG-context] Float control
Hi Denis, > The floats where jumping around, appearing in a different order than > in the source file Tables and figures can appear in different orders than each other, and a top float could appear at the top of the page that it is mentioned, but if you ever see Figure 2 before Figure 1 or a float appearing before it is placed in the source (with the exception of the top issue), then you've probably found a bug. > some positioning keys had not the intended effect (e.g. top) I've had mixed results with some of the positioning keys too, but "top" should generally work okay. If you're using columns, weird stuff can sometimes happen with top/bottom floats, but you should still be able to make them work. You can also try adding \setupfloat[ntop=100] at the start of you're document. I've had that fix an otherwise- unexplainable bug once. > I know, TeX's float positioning algorithm should be rather reliable > and stable Not as much as you would expect. The TeX page breaking algorithm is greedy, single-pass, and dependant on every page prior, so you can get some pretty chaotic results in pathological situations. "Typical" documents don't usually have any issues, but you can (even accidentally) make a document that gives some really weird results. > Anyway, I'd like to learn more about the whole float issue. Is there anything > particular I could read to learn more about the whole thing? The only float documentation for ConTeXt that I'm aware of is a short section in It's in the Details https://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/details.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A39%2C%22gen%22%3A0%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22Fit%22%7D%5D and another short section in the old Reference Manual http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf#aut%3A957 There's also the Wiki page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Floating_Objects and the source code https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkxl/strc-flt.mklx I haven't been able to find anything that really goes into the details though. (If there's something that I'm missing here, please let me know! I've been looking for awhile now) > Maybe I'm missing out on something fundamental... At the TeX level, floats are known as \insert's/insertions. The end of Chapter 15 in The TeXbook goes into detail here. TeX By Topic also has a good description in Chapter 29 https://texdoc.org/serve/texbytopic/0#chapter.29 Then there's also Low Level TeX which documents the changes in LMTX https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/lowlevel-inserts.pdf Inserts are (in my opinion) the most complicated part of TeX. Even at an engine level, they aren't that well documented. When writing the footnote code for lua-widow-control, I had to read through "TeX the program" since some of the details weren't documented anywhere else. And as Peter mentioned, if you post a specific example someone will probably come along and help. -- Max ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [m-database] How to properly add module arguments?
Dear list,
## The Incredibly Short Version
I am trying to extend m-database, and I want to add a flag to control behavior.
I can get it to work, but I am having trouble understanding how to do it
properly.
## The Short Version
I have a project where I wish to incorporate many CSV files as Natural Tables.
I want to keep the headers in the CSV files so they're useful in other contexts.
The `m-database` module doesn't have a feature to suppress the header row, from
what I can see.
(I know `handlecsv` can do this, but I'm having troubles with that; if the
`m-database` line of inquiry doesn't work out, I'll go back it, but I figure
I'll focus on this solution for now.)
Looking at the module sources, I can implement the functionality I need in the
Lua part of the module, but:
I seem to only be able to bodge in additional arguments for the commands in the
module.
On first try, I got the error: `tex error > tex error on line 30 in file
/Users/pmazaitis/Opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/modules/mkiv/m-databaseplus.mkiv:
! Undefined control sequence`
And then: `The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error
message was never
\def'ed.`
Looking at the docs points me to a solution using `\def`, but it's not clear
to me how that's working in the case of the database module (the database
module seems to be initializing these values someplace else?).
If I \def the settings variable in m-database.mkiv, I can get it to work, but
I don't think that's the correct way to go about this.
Question: how do I properly define new module arguments for the database module?
## The Long Version, With MWE
### Files Associated With the MWE
Apologies for all of the file inclusions, but I want to be complete.
Here's the .csv file I'm using for the MWE:
--- begin database-mwe.csv ---
Ref. No.,Part No.,Description,Remarks
,RD14C82E000J,Carbon 000흮 ±5% 1/4W,
--- end database-mwe.csv ---
Some notes on database-mwe.csv:
I'd like to keep the header row in place to make this file useful for other
tools.
These are lists of electronic parts, so I'd like to include uppercase omega,
lower case mu, and percent sign characters in the CSV file.
Here's the .tex file I'm using for the MWE:
--- begin database-mwe.tex ---
\usemodule[database]
\setupdatabase[quotechar={"},separator={,}]
\defineseparatedlist
[PartsTable]
[separator=comma,left=\bTD,right=\eTD,first=\bTR,last=\eTR,before={
\bTABLE[split=repeat,option=stretch]
\bTABLEhead
\bTR
\bTH Ref. No. \eTH \bTH Part No. \eTH \bTH Description \eTH \bTH Remarks
\eTH
\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
},
after={
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
}]
\starttext
test
\startasciimode
\processdatabasefile[PartsTable][parts_list-test.csv]
\stopasciimode
\stoptext
--- end database-mwe.tex ---
Some notes on database-mwe.tex:
This actually works pretty well with the distributed m-database module!
Some of these lists are quite long, so I want to use a TABLEhead to replicate
the headings at the top of a new page. I don't think there's a way to automate
this with `m-database`, so I'm okay with hard-coding the headers. This does
mean I get a double header row at the top of the table. I want to suppress the
header row; I'd like to implement this behavior in the module behind a switch.
(I'm using the `asciimode` environment to dodge problems with unescaped `%`
characters and Greek letters. I tried adding the startasciimode/stopasciimode
commands to various keys in the \defineseparatedlist command, but I didn't get
anywhere with it - I got errors. A problem for another time...)
I think I've got a good handle on how to do this in Lua, but I'm struggling
with what to add to the switch appropriately.
In attempting to add a switch, I tried the following.
Based off of https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#Modules_writing_guidelines,
I added a stanza to the appropriate interface file:
--- begin stanza added to i-database.xml ---
--- end stanza added to i-database.xml ---
I modeled that after the stanza for the argument `strip`. I think that's the
only thing I need to do in the interface file.
Changing the i-database.xml file does not break the build.
However, as soon as I add the skipheader argument to the m-database.mkiv file:
--- begin definition in m-database.mkiv ---
\setupdatabase
[\c!separator={,},
\c!quotechar=,
\c!commentchar=,
\c!strip=\v!no,
\c!skipheader=\v!no, % <- Added, following the pattern with strip
\c!before=,
\c!after=,
\c!first=,
\c!last=,
\c!left=,
\c!right=]
--- end definition in m-database.mkiv ---
...the build fails (with the error from the Short Version section).
If I then add the following \def to m-database.mkiv before the \setupdatabase
command:
\def\c!skipheader {skipheader}
...the build succeeds! I can now pass that settings value to m-database.l
Re: [NTG-context] How to add data from another PDF in index?
We are currently working on fixing cross-references as well as shared
register information between products in a ConTeXt project structure.
Much is possible, but not all is fully worked out.
My current use is a multi-volume book, sharing Tables of Contents
between the two volumes. As a teaser,
\placelist [part,chapter,section,subsection]
[criterium=product,reference=VolumeII]
will include the TOC of VolumeII in product VolumeI.
Once we have this figured-out, I will have to create a wiki page.
Alan
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 05:43:01 + (UTC)
Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I am making a textbook and workbook set.
> I have this custom index using this code, in both the textbook and
> workbook: %
> \defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \define[1]\learnedis{%
> \txt{} \getvalue{#1}
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{#1}
> }
> \define[1]\learned{%
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
> }
>
> \starttext
>
> \learnedis{blah blah}
>
> \input knuth
>
> \learnedis{some more}
>
>
> \startchapter[title=Standards]
> \placelearnedshort
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> My question is, can I have references to the Workbook page numbers in
> the textbook? And visa-versa?
>
> For instance, the Textbook index currently looks like this:
> -
> Standards
> blah blah 1
> some more 2
> --
> With the data in the Workbook it might look like this:
> Standards
> blah blah 1, WB: 1, 3-8
>
> some more 2, WB: 8-9
> yet more WB: 10, 12
>
> --
> Is this possible to merge index information like this?
> --Joel
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Re: [NTG-context] How to prevent \subject from being the last line
Thanks, Pablo and Bruce. Both solutions work well.
> I had similar issues with \section and only the Latin script was involved.
Btw, just in case if anyone shares this idea: is it possible to have a
zulip channel for ConTeXt? It's free for open source projects, has a
interface for existing mailing lists, and has a reasonable builtin search
engine, which could serve as another de-facto documentation, considering
the fact that very few of the massive useful use cases asked in the mailing
lists so far have been transcribed into official documentations.
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 05:22, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> On 2/19/23 20:34, Sylvain Hubert via ntg-context wrote:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I have a long document (A4 * 170 pages) with some CJK fonts, where some
> > of the \subject{...} are placed at the end of the corresponding pages,
> > which looks awkward. How can one flush those last-line titles to the
> > next pages?
>
> Hi Sylvain,
>
> the hard part for the rest of us is figuring out what you may have on
> your screen.
>
> \setuphead[subject][before={\blank[preference]}] might help.
>
> Another approach would be \setuphead[subject][after={\blank[samepage,
> line]}].
>
> I mean, either you set a preference for breaking pages before \subject
> or you force \subject to be on the same page with next paragraph.
>
> Nothing prevents you from doing both.
>
> BTW, default values for before and after in \setuphead[subject] are
> \blank[2*big] and \blank (respectively [copied from strc-def.mkxl]).
>
> > Currently I don't have a MWE, as trivial filling-up with 1-2 pages of
> > \lipsum doesn't reproduce the problem. I'm optimistically asking without
> > MWE, but if it is necessary anyway, please tell me and I will obfuscate
> > the 170-page document and find a way to upload it.
>
> I hope it might help. It is not clear for me whether the CJK fonts are
> only for fragments in these languages or the main text is written in any
> of these languages.
>
> I had similar issues with \section and only the Latin script was involved.
>
> Again, I hope it might help,
>
> Pablo
>
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Re: [NTG-context] How to prevent \subject from being the last line
On 2/19/23 20:34, Sylvain Hubert via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I have a long document (A4 * 170 pages) with some CJK fonts, where some
> of the \subject{...} are placed at the end of the corresponding pages,
> which looks awkward. How can one flush those last-line titles to the
> next pages?
Hi Sylvain,
the hard part for the rest of us is figuring out what you may have on
your screen.
\setuphead[subject][before={\blank[preference]}] might help.
Another approach would be \setuphead[subject][after={\blank[samepage,
line]}].
I mean, either you set a preference for breaking pages before \subject
or you force \subject to be on the same page with next paragraph.
Nothing prevents you from doing both.
BTW, default values for before and after in \setuphead[subject] are
\blank[2*big] and \blank (respectively [copied from strc-def.mkxl]).
> Currently I don't have a MWE, as trivial filling-up with 1-2 pages of
> \lipsum doesn't reproduce the problem. I'm optimistically asking without
> MWE, but if it is necessary anyway, please tell me and I will obfuscate
> the 170-page document and find a way to upload it.
I hope it might help. It is not clear for me whether the CJK fonts are
only for fragments in these languages or the main text is written in any
of these languages.
I had similar issues with \section and only the Latin script was involved.
Again, I hope it might help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] setupregister/placeregister
Hello, The criterium key in setupregister (so placeregister, placeindex, ...) takes the following values: criterium local text current previous all section all: places all entries of the document section: (part, chapter, section, ...) places entries associated with that structure element. Can someone explain local, text, current, previous for their scope and perhaps subtle differences are not entirely obvious to me. Thank you Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] autospacing and colonequals (was Lucida-1.901 (2023-01-21) available)
Hi Hans and Mikael,
Thank you both for your attention to my reply and the clarification and hints
regarding the comman \colonequals and
\setupmathematics[autospacing=yes]
Indeed the command \colonequals give the precise expected alignment for the
combination glyph « := ». Befors changing the combination « := » to
\columnequals in my documents, I am wondering whether one could add a small lua
code in order to make an automatic replacement at run time. Actually, since I
don’t know of any other instance in which the combination « := » is used to
mean something else, would it not be reasonnable to make « := » synonym to
\colonequals?
I played a little bit with
\setupmathematics[autospacing=yes]
and it seems to me that without this command one gets automatic spacing in math
mode, while with the above command the spacing obeys what has been inserted in
the source. Is this behaviour intended, or is there a mismatch between
\setupmathematics[autospacing=yes]
and
\setupmathematics[autospacing=no]
Best regards: Otared
> On 26 Jan 2023, at 10:33, Hans Hagen via ntg-context <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2023 6:24 PM, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:02 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context
>> mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks Hraban for the information and the link to the article by Hans and
>>> Mikael about the math fonts in Lucida.
>>>
>>> I very much appreciated that article: one sees how the handling of almost
>>> impercebtile details in ConTeXt make us to adhere to and love LuaMetaTeX…
>>> So a great thank you to Hans and Mikael for all this work!
>>>
>>> Regarding the details of vertical alignment in math, I wonder whether the
>>> column « : » in front of the equal sign « = », in the combination « := »
>>> (used to define for instance a new variable) should be alos centered around
>>> the math axis, as explained in the article. For instance in the following
>>> example
>>>
>>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot,12pt]
>>> \starttext
>>> \startformula
>>> f(x) := -(u|x) := - \langle u, x \rangle
>>> \stopformula
>>> \stopformula
>>> \startformula
>>> f : A \longrightarrow B
>>> \stopformula
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> it seems to me that the lower dot (or square…) in the semicolumn of the
>>> first formula (in front of the equal sign) is lower than in the second
>>> formula.
>>>
>>> Best regards: Otared
>> Thank you for the kind words, Otared,
>> Regarding the colons (and other symbols with "dots"), I would say it
>> is still not optimal in Lucida (and difficult to make it "consistent",
>> there are too many symbols that are at the moment different). But in
>> your example you can use \colonequals and \colon if you prefer. They
>> are centered around the math axis.
>> Best, Mikael
>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot,12pt]
>> \starttext
>> \startformula
>> f(x) := -(u|x) \colonequals - \langle u, x \rangle
>> \stopformula
>> \startformula
>> f : A \longrightarrow B \breakhere
>> f \colon A \longrightarrow B
>> \stopformula
>> \startformula
>> \mathaxisbelow := \colonequals : \colon
>> \stopformula
>> \stoptext
> There is a (experimental as we played with it and then got distracted)
> feature that makes some symbols adapt to spacing in the input.
>
> \starttext
>
>\setupmathematics[autospacing=yes]
>
>\setupmathematics[collapsing=2]
>
>\im{A:B} and \im{A : B}\par
>\im{A:=B} and \im{A := B}\par
>\im{A\colonequals B} and \im{A {\colonequals} B}\par
>
> \stoptext
>
> the second line is not yet ok as collapsing the := (old feature) comes at the
> wrong time when we do autospacing (something Mikasl and I now need to discuss
> and test)
>
> This autospacing is part of some larger effort, for instance we can also auto
> handle fences and so. All this relates to minimizing the input and make it a
> bit more natural. Think (1,2) vb (1, 2) where we - due to the many more
> classes that we have - want spacing to be right.
>
> All will be revealed in the upcoming releases and the upcoming 3145 page math
> manual.
>
> Hans
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida-1.901 (2023-01-21) available
On 1/25/2023 6:24 PM, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:02 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context
wrote:
Hi,
Thanks Hraban for the information and the link to the article by Hans and
Mikael about the math fonts in Lucida.
I very much appreciated that article: one sees how the handling of almost
impercebtile details in ConTeXt make us to adhere to and love LuaMetaTeX… So a
great thank you to Hans and Mikael for all this work!
Regarding the details of vertical alignment in math, I wonder whether the
column « : » in front of the equal sign « = », in the combination « := » (used
to define for instance a new variable) should be alos centered around the math
axis, as explained in the article. For instance in the following example
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,12pt]
\starttext
\startformula
f(x) := -(u|x) := - \langle u, x \rangle
\stopformula
\stopformula
\startformula
f : A \longrightarrow B
\stopformula
\stoptext
it seems to me that the lower dot (or square…) in the semicolumn of the first
formula (in front of the equal sign) is lower than in the second formula.
Best regards: Otared
Thank you for the kind words, Otared,
Regarding the colons (and other symbols with "dots"), I would say it
is still not optimal in Lucida (and difficult to make it "consistent",
there are too many symbols that are at the moment different). But in
your example you can use \colonequals and \colon if you prefer. They
are centered around the math axis.
Best, Mikael
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,12pt]
\starttext
\startformula
f(x) := -(u|x) \colonequals - \langle u, x \rangle
\stopformula
\startformula
f : A \longrightarrow B \breakhere
f \colon A \longrightarrow B
\stopformula
\startformula
\mathaxisbelow := \colonequals : \colon
\stopformula
\stoptext
There is a (experimental as we played with it and then got distracted)
feature that makes some symbols adapt to spacing in the input.
\starttext
\setupmathematics[autospacing=yes]
\setupmathematics[collapsing=2]
\im{A:B} and \im{A : B}\par
\im{A:=B} and \im{A := B}\par
\im{A\colonequals B} and \im{A {\colonequals} B}\par
\stoptext
the second line is not yet ok as collapsing the := (old feature) comes
at the wrong time when we do autospacing (something Mikasl and I now
need to discuss and test)
This autospacing is part of some larger effort, for instance we can also
auto handle fences and so. All this relates to minimizing the input and
make it a bit more natural. Think (1,2) vb (1, 2) where we - due to the
many more classes that we have - want spacing to be right.
All will be revealed in the upcoming releases and the upcoming 3145 page
math manual.
Hans
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[NTG-context] Printing mailing list labels
If you've ever struggled with Word's or (worse) LibreOffice's mail merge features to print a mailing list onto sticky labels then this might be of interest. I've created some macros and an example file showing how to print address labels on Avery L7160 paper (which is 7 rows of 3 labels on A4) and uploaded them here. <https://context-address-labels.sourceforge.io/> Features: - full control over label content (can even differ from one label to the next if necessary) - easily use up a part-used sheet of labels to avoid waste - read address data from a CSV file - easily support different address formats for different international destinations - option to preview on plain paper - even label your labels in the page header so you remember why you printed them! No licence - the files are placed in the public domain. Feedback welcome. — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] question about multimedia renderings
en
setn, setr, setd = set[1], set[1], set[2]
else
setn, setr, setd = set[1], set[2], set[3]
end
local appearance = pdfdictionary {
N = setn and registeredsymbol(setn),
R = setr and registeredsymbol(setr),
D = setd and registeredsymbol(setd),
}
local appearanceref = pdfshareobjectreference(appearance)
return nil, appearanceref
end
end
local function analyzenormalsymbol(symbol)
local appearance = pdfdictionary {
N = registeredsymbol(symbol),
}
local appearanceref = pdfshareobjectreference(appearance)
return appearanceref
end
codeinjections.analyzesymbol = analyzesymbol
codeinjections.analyzenormalsymbol = analyzenormalsymbol
local function analyzelayer(layer)
-- todo: (specification.layer ~= "" and pdfreference(specification.layer))
or nil, -- todo: ref to layer
end
local function analyzecolor(colorvalue,colormodel)
local cvalue = colorvalue and tonumber(colorvalue)
local cmodel = colormodel and tonumber(colormodel) or 3
return cvalue and pdfarray { pdfcolorvalues(cmodel,cvalue) } or nil
end
local function analyzetransparency(transparencyvalue)
local tvalue = transparencyvalue and tonumber(transparencyvalue)
return tvalue and pdftransparencyvalue(tvalue) or nil
end
-- Attachments
local nofattachments= 0
local attachments = { }
local filestreams = { }
local referenced= { }
local ignorereferenced = true -- fuzzy pdf spec .. twice in attachment list,
can become an option
local tobesavedobjrefs = utilities.storage.allocate()
local collectedobjrefs = utilities.storage.allocate()
local permitted = true
local enabled = true
function codeinjections.setattachmentsupport(option)
if option == false then
permitted = false
enabled = false
end
end
local fileobjreferences = {
collected = collectedobjrefs,
tobesaved = tobesavedobjrefs,
}
job.fileobjreferences = fileobjreferences
local function initializer()
collectedobjrefs = job.fileobjreferences.collected or { }
tobesavedobjrefs = job.fileobjreferences.tobesaved or { }
end
job.register('job.fileobjreferences.collected', tobesavedobjrefs, initializer)
local function flushembeddedfiles()
if enabled and next(filestreams) then
local e = pdfarray()
local f = pdfarray()
for tag, reference in sortedhash(filestreams) do
if not reference then
report_attachment("unreferenced file, tag %a",tag)
elseif referenced[tag] == "hidden" or referenced[tag] == "forced"
then
e[#e+1] = pdfstring(tag)
e[#e+1] = reference -- already a reference
f[#f+1] = reference -- collect all file description references
else
-- messy spec ... when annot not in named else twice in menu
list acrobat
f[#f+1] = reference
end
end
if #e > 0 then
lpdf.addtonames("EmbeddedFiles",pdfreference(pdfflushobject(pdfdictionary{
Names = e })))
end
if #f > 0 then -- PDF/A-2|3: all associated files must have a
relationship to the PDF document (global or part)
lpdf.addtocatalog("AF", pdfreference(pdfflushobject(f))) -- global
(Catalog)
end
end
end
lpdf.registerdocumentfinalizer(flushembeddedfiles,"embeddedfiles")
function codeinjections.embedfile(specification)
if enabled then
local data = specification.data
local filename = specification.file
local name = specification.name or ""
local title = specification.title or ""
local hash = specification.hash or filename
local keepdir = specification.keepdir -- can change
local usedname = specification.usedname
local filetype = specification.filetype
local compress = specification.compress
local mimetype = specification.mimetype or specification.mime
if filename == "" then
filename = nil
end
if compress == nil then
compress = true
end
if data then
local r = filestreams[hash]
if r == false then
return nil
elseif r then
return r
elseif not filename then
filename = specification.tag
if not filename or filename == "" then
filename = specification.registered
end
if not filename or filename == "" then
filename = hash
end
end
else
if not filename then
return nil
end
local r = filestreams[hash]
if r == fa
Re: [NTG-context] question about multimedia renderings
uot;Note"),
-- TextNote = pdfconstant("Text Note"),
-- UpArrow = pdfconstant("Up Arrow"),
-- UpLeftArrow = pdfconstant("Up-Left Arrow"),
-- }
local attachment_symbols = {
Graph = pdfconstant("Graph"),
Paperclip = pdfconstant("Paperclip"),
Pushpin = pdfconstant("PushPin"),
}
attachment_symbols.PushPin = attachment_symbols.Pushpin
attachment_symbols.Default = attachment_symbols.Pushpin
function lpdf.attachmentsymbols()
return sortedkeys(comment_symbols)
end
local comment_symbols = {
Comment = pdfconstant("Comment"),
Help = pdfconstant("Help"),
Insert = pdfconstant("Insert"),
Key = pdfconstant("Key"),
Newparagraph = pdfconstant("NewParagraph"),
Note = pdfconstant("Note"),
Paragraph= pdfconstant("Paragraph"),
}
comment_symbols.NewParagraph = Newparagraph
comment_symbols.Default = Note
function lpdf.commentsymbols()
return sortedkeys(comment_symbols)
end
local function analyzesymbol(symbol,collection)
if not symbol or symbol == "" then
return collection and collection.Default, nil
elseif collection and collection[symbol] then
return collection[symbol], nil
else
local setn, setr, setd
local set = settings_to_array(symbol)
if #set == 1 then
setn, setr, setd = set[1], set[1], set[1]
elseif #set == 2 then
setn, setr, setd = set[1], set[1], set[2]
else
setn, setr, setd = set[1], set[2], set[3]
end
local appearance = pdfdictionary {
N = setn and registeredsymbol(setn),
R = setr and registeredsymbol(setr),
D = setd and registeredsymbol(setd),
}
local appearanceref = pdfshareobjectreference(appearance)
return nil, appearanceref
end
end
local function analyzenormalsymbol(symbol)
local appearance = pdfdictionary {
N = registeredsymbol(symbol),
}
local appearanceref = pdfshareobjectreference(appearance)
return appearanceref
end
codeinjections.analyzesymbol = analyzesymbol
codeinjections.analyzenormalsymbol = analyzenormalsymbol
local function analyzelayer(layer)
-- todo: (specification.layer ~= "" and pdfreference(specification.layer))
or nil, -- todo: ref to layer
end
local function analyzecolor(colorvalue,colormodel)
local cvalue = colorvalue and tonumber(colorvalue)
local cmodel = colormodel and tonumber(colormodel) or 3
return cvalue and pdfarray { pdfcolorvalues(cmodel,cvalue) } or nil
end
local function analyzetransparency(transparencyvalue)
local tvalue = transparencyvalue and tonumber(transparencyvalue)
return tvalue and pdftransparencyvalue(tvalue) or nil
end
-- Attachments
local nofattachments= 0
local attachments = { }
local filestreams = { }
local referenced= { }
local ignorereferenced = true -- fuzzy pdf spec .. twice in attachment list,
can become an option
local tobesavedobjrefs = utilities.storage.allocate()
local collectedobjrefs = utilities.storage.allocate()
local permitted = true
local enabled = true
function codeinjections.setattachmentsupport(option)
if option == false then
permitted = false
enabled = false
end
end
local fileobjreferences = {
collected = collectedobjrefs,
tobesaved = tobesavedobjrefs,
}
job.fileobjreferences = fileobjreferences
local function initializer()
collectedobjrefs = job.fileobjreferences.collected or { }
tobesavedobjrefs = job.fileobjreferences.tobesaved or { }
end
job.register('job.fileobjreferences.collected', tobesavedobjrefs, initializer)
local function flushembeddedfiles()
if enabled and next(filestreams) then
local e = pdfarray()
local f = pdfarray()
for tag, reference in sortedhash(filestreams) do
if not reference then
report_attachment("unreferenced file, tag %a",tag)
elseif referenced[tag] == "hidden" or referenced[tag] == "forced"
then
e[#e+1] = pdfstring(tag)
e[#e+1] = reference -- already a reference
f[#f+1] = reference -- collect all file description references
else
-- messy spec ... when annot not in named else twice in menu
list acrobat
f[#f+1] = reference
end
end
if #e > 0 then
lpdf.addtonames("EmbeddedFiles",pdfreference(pdfflushobject(pdfdictionary{
Names = e })))
end
if #f > 0 then -- PDF/A-2|3: all associated files must have a
relationship to the PDF document (global or part)
lpdf.addtocatalog("AF", pdfreference(pdfflushobject(f))) -- global
(
Re: [NTG-context] Ajami script
On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 2:14 PM BPJ via ntg-context wrote: It's a bit confusing because the word ʿajamī simply means anything written > in a non-Arabic language with Arabic script. Africa is certainly not the > only place where that term has been used. It is also the case that Arabic > script has been used to write West African languages for very many > centuries. There is no way that guy can have grown up there and not know > that so I don't understand what this article is up to. Possibly this is a > separate adaptation using its own conventions for writing the local > language. Probably just pop-sci sensationalism coupled with some rather > severe mis-/non-understanding on the part of the article author. > I grew up in Northern New Mexico and now live in Canada, so know that "educational" efforts which suppressed non-European languages and writing systems were too often imposed on indigenous peoples in N. America. It would not surprise me to learn that some West African kids were never exposed to "anything written in a non-Arabic language with Arabic script". -- George N. White III ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ajami script
It's a bit confusing because the word ʿajamī simply means anything written in a non-Arabic language with Arabic script. Africa is certainly not the only place where that term has been used. It is also the case that Arabic script has been used to write West African languages for very many centuries. There is no way that guy can have grown up there and not know that so I don't understand what this article is up to. Possibly this is a separate adaptation using its own conventions for writing the local language. Probably just pop-sci sensationalism coupled with some rather severe mis-/non-understanding on the part of the article author. Den sön 1 jan. 2023 14:30Alain Delmotte via ntg-context skrev: > Le 1/01/2023 à 11:03, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a > écrit : > > Am 01.01.23 um 10:21 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: > >> On 12/31/2022 3:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via > >> ntg-context wrote: > >>> I just read this: > >>> > https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/fallou-ngom-discovers-ajami-african-writing-system/ > >>> > >>> > >>> And now I’d like to know if ConTeXt is capable of > >>> typesetting this variant of Arabic. (Just out of > >>> curiosity, I can’t read any Arabic and don’t know any > >>> African language.) > >> Afaiks that script has been known fro a while: > > > > I also thought I heard about it several years ago. The > > article makes it sound like news, that might be the > > perspective of the US scholars or a necessary means to get > > funded. But the oldest sources quoted in Wikipedia are > > from 1971 and 1982. > > The arabic alphabet was also used from the XIth century to > write swahili and some bantu languages around Tanzania and > Kenya (Mozambic, Malawi, Uganda, east of Kongo, Sudan). > > There are articles in Wikipedia. > > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_arabe_swahili > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language#Orthography > > also: https://www.mustgo.com/worldlanguages/swahili/ see > "writing" > https://omniglot.com/writing/swahili.htm > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajami_script > >> so when there are proper fonts, as: > >> https://software.sil.org/scheherazade/ > >> https://software.sil.org/harmattan/ > > > > I don’t dare to ask about the Husayni fonts... ;) > > > >> it should be doable. The script is supported by unicode. > >> I get the impression that the arabic scipt is mostly used > >> getting the way the languages sounds on paper so vowels > >> matter. There is mentioning of transliteration and so > >> that might need some specific support. Nothing tex > >> (context) can't do but only users and usage can prove that. > > > > Thank you for your insights! > > Of course it’s a matter of use(r)s. > > > > All the best for a happy new year! > > Hraban > > > > > ___ > > > > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please > > add an entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / > > http://context.aanhet.net > > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > > ___ > > > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] numbering questions
Am 31.12.22 um 20:41 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context:
On 12/31/22 18:23, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
I’m playing with some examples of section numbering.
* Is there a setup to influence the order of number segments? I.e. can I
have “section.chapter.part“ instead of “part.chapter.section”?
I thought sectionsegments=section:chapter would work, but it doesn’t.
* How can I format the segments, e.g. to get two or three digits each
(leading zeros)?
The easy part is to have the leading zeros, but I cannot get it working
with numbercommand or deepnumbercommand.
\startluacode
function document.leadingzeros(str)
local lzeros = 3-str:len()
return ("0"):rep(lzeros)
end
\stopluacode
\unexpanded\def\lzeros#1%
{\cldcontext{document.leadingzeros("#1")}}
Same. With numbercommand, Lua gets "\s and can’t handle it, with
deepnumbercommand it gets "1-\m". Is this a catcode issue?
* I can force a section number with “ownnumber”, but the next one is
back in the previous scheme. Itemize has “start”. How can I start
section chapter numbering at 3 (or -1 or whatever; I know I can start at
0 with “zero”) and let ConTeXt continue from there?
\setupheadnumber[chapter][3] % will start with 4
Thank you, that works.
I hope it helps. »Einen guten Rutsch ins Neujahr!«
Dito!
(In proper German that would be just “Guten Rutsch” or “Guten Rutsch ins
neue Jahr”; Neujahr ist just the name of the holiday.)
All the best,
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] numbering questions
On 12/31/22 18:23, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> I’m playing with some examples of section numbering.
>
> * Is there a setup to influence the order of number segments? I.e. can I
> have “section.chapter.part“ instead of “part.chapter.section”?
I thought sectionsegments=section:chapter would work, but it doesn’t.
> * How can I format the segments, e.g. to get two or three digits each
> (leading zeros)?
The easy part is to have the leading zeros, but I cannot get it working
with numbercommand or deepnumbercommand.
\startluacode
function document.leadingzeros(str)
local lzeros = 3-str:len()
return ("0"):rep(lzeros)
end
\stopluacode
\unexpanded\def\lzeros#1%
{\cldcontext{document.leadingzeros("#1")}}
> * I can force a section number with “ownnumber”, but the next one is
> back in the previous scheme. Itemize has “start”. How can I start
> section chapter numbering at 3 (or -1 or whatever; I know I can start at
> 0 with “zero”) and let ConTeXt continue from there?
\setupheadnumber[chapter][3] % will start with 4
I hope it helps. »Einen guten Rutsch ins Neujahr!«
Happy New Year to all!
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] upload
lushing realpage 4, userpage 4, subpage 4
structures > bookmark: [Dedicatoria]
structure > sectioning > hiddentitle @ level 2 : 0.0 -> \xmlflush {main::29}
pages > flushing realpage 5, userpage 5, subpage 5
pages > flushing realpage 6, userpage 6, subpage 6
structures > bookmark: [Cita]
structure > sectioning > hiddentitle @ level 2 : 0.0 -> \xmlflush {main::35}
pages > flushing realpage 7, userpage 7, subpage 7
pages > flushing realpage 8, userpage 8, subpage 8
structures > end of sectionblock 'whatcomesfirst'
structures > begin of sectionblock 'whatcomesfirst'
structures > begin of sectionblock 'tocpart'
structures > bookmark: Sumario
structure > sectioning > title @ level 2 : 0.0 -> \headtext {content}
pages > flushing realpage 9, userpage 9, subpage 9
structures > end of sectionblock 'tocpart'
pages > flushing realpage 10, userpage 10, subpage 10
structures > end of sectionblock 'whatcomesfirst'
structures > begin of sectionblock 'frontpart'
structures > bookmark: Prólogo
structure > sectioning > forewordtitle @ level 2 : 0.0 -> \xmlflush {main::41}
pages > flushing realpage 11, userpage 11, subpage 11
4:15: [package: underfull \hbox (badness 1) in paragraph at lines 9--9]
pages > flushing realpage 12, userpage 12, subpage 12
structures > bookmark: Introducción
structure > sectioning > part @ level 1 : 1 -> \xmlflush {main::61}
pages > flushing realpage 13, userpage 13, subpage 13
pages > flushing realpage 14, userpage 14, subpage 14
structures > bookmark: Antes de comenzar
structure > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 1.1 -> \xmlflush {main::63}
structures > bookmark: ¿A quienes va dirigido?
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.1.1 -> \xmlflush {main::65}
structures > bookmark: El punto de partida
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.1.2 -> \xmlflush {main::73}
pages > flushing realpage 15, userpage 15, subpage 15
structures > bookmark: ¿Qué es lo que hay?
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.1.3 -> \xmlflush {main::79}
pages > flushing realpage 16, userpage 16, subpage 16
pages > flushing realpage 17, userpage 17, subpage 17
pages > flushing realpage 18, userpage 18, subpage 18
structures > bookmark: Sólo una introducción
structure > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 1.2 -> \xmlflush {main::120}
structures > bookmark: El origen
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.2.1 -> \xmlflush {main::127}
pages > flushing realpage 19, userpage 19, subpage 19
structures > bookmark: El camino de los ejemplos
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.2.2 -> \xmlflush {main::159}
pages > flushing realpage 20, userpage 20, subpage 20
pages > flushing realpage 21, userpage 21, subpage 21
structures > bookmark: Sobre este libro
structure > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 1.3 -> \xmlflush {main::171}
structures > bookmark: Estructura del texto
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.3.1 -> \xmlflush {main::173}
structures > bookmark: Convenciones tipográficas
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.3.2 -> \xmlflush {main::192}
pages > flushing realpage 22, userpage 22, subpage 22
structures > bookmark: Agradecimientos
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.3.3 -> \xmlflush {main::218}
pages > flushing realpage 23, userpage 23, subpage 23
pages > flushing realpage 24, userpage 24, subpage 24
structures > bookmark: Sobre la licencia de uso
structure > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 1.4 -> \xmlflush {main::228}
structures > bookmark: Uso no comercial
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.4.1 -> \xmlflush {main::237}
structures > bookmark: Sin obra derivada
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.4.2 -> \xmlflush {main::249}
pages > flushing realpage 25, userpage 25, subpage 25
structures > bookmark: Sólo descarga
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.4.3 -> \xmlflush {main::254}
pages > flushing realpage 26, userpage 26, subpage 26
structures > bookmark: Un pacto de nobleza
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.4.4 -> \xmlflush {main::260}
structures > bookmark: Comentarios
structure > sectioning > section @ level 3 : 1.4.5 -> \xmlflush {main::278}
structures > end of sectionblock 'fron
[NTG-context] OT: Adobe releases the original PostScript interpreter software as open source
A bit off topic but some might be interested... Adobe have released the PostScript interpreter source code as open source. Press release here <https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/12/01/2566212/28639/en/Computer-History-Museum-Makes-Adobe-PostScript-s-Source-Code-Available-to-the-Public-as-a-Part-of-Its-Art-of-Code-Series.html> and a blog post with the background to PostScript here <https://computerhistory.org/blog/postscript-a-digital-printing-press/> Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Command line arguments on context project
On Sun, 18 Dec 2022, Alan Braslau via ntg-context wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:14:33 +
> Jethro Djan via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > 2. How do I get CoTeXt to recognise the ref.bib file when I run the
> > components not the product?
> >
> > For context, I don’t want the references printed at the end of each
> > chapter but I would like the in-text citation to work (if that is
> > possible). If not, is it possible compile the whole product but only
> > output a certain page range?
>
> You need to include the \usebtxdataset [ref.bib] in an environment file
> that gets read each run.
>
> A limitation, or rather a design goal, of the bibliography subsystem is
> that citations will not work unless you render the bibliography list.
You can, of course, cheat:
\setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\placelistofpublications}
> Why is this? The reasoning is that it makes no sense to give list
> numbers or list labels (e.g. APA : authoryear) if there is no list, for
> these numbers or labels depend on the context (bibliography by chapter,
> by part, by volume, or by book, for example).
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Re: [NTG-context] Command line arguments on context project
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:14:33 + Jethro Djan via ntg-context wrote: > 2. How do I get CoTeXt to recognise the ref.bib file when I run the > components not the product? > > For context, I don’t want the references printed at the end of each > chapter but I would like the in-text citation to work (if that is > possible). If not, is it possible compile the whole product but only > output a certain page range? You need to include the \usebtxdataset [ref.bib] in an environment file that gets read each run. A limitation, or rather a design goal, of the bibliography subsystem is that citations will not work unless you render the bibliography list. Why is this? The reasoning is that it makes no sense to give list numbers or list labels (e.g. APA : authoryear) if there is no list, for these numbers or labels depend on the context (bibliography by chapter, by part, by volume, or by book, for example). We have not done much with same page, footnote bibliographic references. I do not use that style as I always like having a bibliography list. Best is to compile the entire product and then use some tool (qpdf, pdftk, etc.) to select out a certain range of pages. ConTeXt has gotten fast enough that this should not be a real problem. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:57:44 -0700
Alan Braslau via ntg-context wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:08:47 +
> wrote:
>
> > Last time I had to do something like this I've kept both books in
> > one master file (actually one master file for part 1, one for part
> > 2, one for both together). With that I could easiliy have a table of
> > contents for both volumes.
>
> Thank you. This was my initial approach, although I know that ConTeXt
> can do better!
>
> I will look into the suggestion sent by Richard Mahoney, as it looks
> like a good solution to the problem.
In fact, Richard does NOT render the TOC of Volume 2 in Volume 1, nor
the TOC of Volume 1 in Volume 2, only the TOC of each volume,
respectively.
I have tried using
\useexternalfile [VolI] [Book_VolumeI] [{Volume I}]
(in Book_VolumeII.tex) to read in the Book_VolumeI.tuc
With this, I can indeed use
\from [VolI]
to add the file::Book_VolumeI.pdf hyperlink with the text "Volume I".
However, \in{Chapter} [VolI::ch:mychapterreference] gives no number
(but ?? does not get substituted and VolII::ch:mychapterreference does
NOT return a missing reference message in the Book_VolumeII.log file).
Alan
P.S.
Once that works, maybe I can figure out how to render the TOC.
I would expect/hope that
\placecontents [criterium=VolI::all]
would be the way to go.
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Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
Alan,
I'm attaching the two master files used for the following (also ran
cross refs between
each vol.):
Murugaiyan, Appasamy & Parlier-Renault, Édith (2021) (Eds) Whispering
of Inscriptions:
South Indian Epigraphy and Art History: Papers from an International
Symposium in
memory of Professor Noboru Karashima (Paris, 12–13 October 2017).
Oxford: Indica et
Buddhica. (2 vols)
https://indica-et-buddhica.com/publications/murugaiyan-appasamy-parlier-renault-edith/whispering-of-inscriptions-south-indian-epigraphy-and-art-history
Best, Richard
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Hello,
I have a book project that is being cut into two volumes (because it
is
too long and will be sold as a boxed set).
Each volume is presently a separate *product* in the project
structure.
I presently set the counters in the second volume using:
\setupheadnumber
[part] [2]
\setupheadnumber
[chapter] [5]
(I have multiple [5] parts in the project, and the first volume ends
with part 2 and chapter 5.)
1) Is this the right way to be handling this?
2) Any suggestions on how I can put a Table of Contents for the first
volume in the second volume?
Thanks!
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
What was his approach? Did he probably send it off-list? > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Alan Braslau > Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2022 14:58 > An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) > Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:08:47 + > wrote: > > > Last time I had to do something like this I've kept both books in one > > master file (actually one master file for part 1, one for part 2, one > > for both together). With that I could easiliy have a table of contents > > for both volumes. > > Thank you. This was my initial approach, although I know that ConTeXt can do > better! > > I will look into the suggestion sent by Richard Mahoney, as it looks like a > good > solution to the problem. > > Alan > > -- > Alan Braslau > 816 West Mountain Avenue > Fort Collins, CO 80521 USA > mobile: (970) 237-0957 > > Conserve energy! ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:08:47 + wrote: > Last time I had to do something like this I've kept both books in one > master file (actually one master file for part 1, one for part 2, one > for both together). With that I could easiliy have a table of > contents for both volumes. Thank you. This was my initial approach, although I know that ConTeXt can do better! I will look into the suggestion sent by Richard Mahoney, as it looks like a good solution to the problem. Alan -- Alan Braslau 816 West Mountain Avenue Fort Collins, CO 80521 USA mobile: (970) 237-0957 Conserve energy! ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
Last time I had to do something like this I've kept both books in one master
file (actually one master file for part 1, one for part 2, one for both
together). With that I could easiliy have a table of contents for both volumes.
I've made some experiments with writing stuff to the logs or tuc file
(\writestatus{SPLITPOINT}{\the\realpageno}) at the end of part 1, which I then
wanted to process with a script (e.g., read the page number, use pdftk to split
the complete PDF at this point to get PDFs for the individual volumes).
However, at the end I've just had to send the PDF containing both volumes to
the publisher as they performed the splitting up themselves.
Best,
Denis
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Alan Braslau
> via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2022 04:24
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Cc: Alan Braslau
> Betreff: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a book project that is being cut into two volumes (because it is too
> long and will be sold as a boxed set).
>
> Each volume is presently a separate *product* in the project structure.
> I presently set the counters in the second volume using:
>
> \setupheadnumber
> [part] [2]
>
> \setupheadnumber
> [chapter] [5]
>
> (I have multiple [5] parts in the project, and the first volume ends with
> part 2
> and chapter 5.)
>
>
> 1) Is this the right way to be handling this?
>
> 2) Any suggestions on how I can put a Table of Contents for the first volume
> in the second volume?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alan
>
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[NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products
Hello, I have a book project that is being cut into two volumes (because it is too long and will be sold as a boxed set). Each volume is presently a separate *product* in the project structure. I presently set the counters in the second volume using: \setupheadnumber [part] [2] \setupheadnumber [chapter] [5] (I have multiple [5] parts in the project, and the first volume ends with part 2 and chapter 5.) 1) Is this the right way to be handling this? 2) Any suggestions on how I can put a Table of Contents for the first volume in the second volume? Thanks! Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \hpos in math - Half solved
On 12/8/2022 8:54 PM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans, Mikael,
These features are amazing! Many many thanks!
Thanks also to Gavin for having stated so precisely these kinds of needs, so
that Hans and Mikael could come up with this solution.
Gavin, good luck with your project, and plaese share what you get at the end.
For the record: this features is already there for a while, we also have
some matrix specific trickery as well as for instance annotated fences
and so. However, the interfaces will evolve and eventually get
documented in the upcoming (big) math manual. It's mostly a matter of
consistent interfacing i.e. it has to fit into the way we do things in
context (it's of course easy to come up with a quick and dirty ugly non
extensible and non standard interface).
What is new in the latest greatest is (1) namespaces, so that one can
reuse the references, which Gavin needs, and (2) sourcing a nucleus
and/or the whole atom including scripts, which Gavin also needs. Some
more granularity might show up depending on needs. As some depends on
the tex engine there are limitations (performance, memory and complexity
constraints: adding features like these might definitely not impact
performance).
Source and target properties were added in order to avoid interference
with math spacing but can also be used in text, where they are part of
the larger package of box properties that was already around.
\startTEXpage[offset=2cm]
\setbox 0 \ruledhbox
source 123
anchors 1 2
{one}
\setbox 2 \ruledhbox
target 123
{test 1}
\dontleavehmode \box2 \box0
\setbox 0 \ruledhbox
target 124
orientation 2
anchors 1 4
xoffset-10pt
{two}
\setbox 2 \ruledhbox
source 124
{test 2}
\dontleavehmode \box2 \box0
\stopTEXpage
With sources and targets one has to keep in mind that they don't
participate in the box dimensions! Although excessive usage puts some
strain on the backend in practice it probably goes unnoticed. Also, be
careful with the source and target id's! There is currently no low level
allocation mechanism so stick to positive numbers.
So, lots to play with, if you're in the mood,
Hans
(There is quite some experimental code around but to what extend it ends
up in the core depends on demand, time, motivation etc. As you can
guess, Mikael and I having a lot of math fun is motivating.)
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Re: [NTG-context] \hpos in math - Half solved
Hi Hans and Mikael, This is amazing! Mikael's example works for me. I will start using these tools in my project, and I’ll tell you how it goes. It might be a couple weeks, because the physics is also quite challenging. Thank you! Gavin > On Dec 7, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > > On 12/7/2022 1:42 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote: >> Hi List, >> I solved my original problem 2, allowing me to reuse the same \hpos labels >> in different equations without interference. I added an equation counter and >> set up my custom math version of \hpos to use the count as part of the label >> internally. I tried to do this with a regular ConTeXt counter, but had all >> sorts of mysterious, wrong behavior. When I switched to using a Lua counter, >> everything worked immediately. So, while there is nothing brilliant about >> this solution, I’ll share it for anyone who might want to do something >> similar in the future. > attached an example by Mikael ... it should work with tonights update > > Hans > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > <221206-3.mkxl>___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \hpos in math - Half solved
On 12/7/2022 1:42 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi List,
I solved my original problem 2, allowing me to reuse the same \hpos labels in
different equations without interference. I added an equation counter and set
up my custom math version of \hpos to use the count as part of the label
internally. I tried to do this with a regular ConTeXt counter, but had all
sorts of mysterious, wrong behavior. When I switched to using a Lua counter,
everything worked immediately. So, while there is nothing brilliant about this
solution, I’ll share it for anyone who might want to do something similar in
the future.
attached an example by Mikael ... it should work with tonights update
Hans
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\usemodule[article-basic]
\starttext
\startboxanchoring[+]
\connectboxanchors[top][top][distance=1ex] {c1}{c2}
\connectboxanchors[bottom] [bottom] [distance=1ex] {d1}{d2}
\startformula
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{c1}{e}_{\alpha}
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{c2}{e}^{\mu}
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{d1}{todo}
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{d2}{e}_{\dot{\beta}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}
\sigma_{\alpha,\dot{\beta}}^{\mu}
\stopformula
\stopboxanchoring
\startboxanchoring[+]
\connectboxanchors[top][top][distance=0.5ex,arrow=no] {c1}{c2}
\connectboxanchors[bottom] [bottom] [distance=0.5ex,arrow=no] {c2}{c3}
\startformula
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{c1}{e}_{\alpha}
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{c2}{e}^{\mu}
\mathboxanchored[nucleus]{c3}{e}_{\dot{\beta}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}
\sigma_{\alpha,\dot{\beta}}^{\mu}
\stopformula
\stopboxanchoring
\startboxanchoring[+]
\connectboxanchors[top][top][text={\smallinfofont upper limits}]{b1}{b2}
\connectboxanchors[bottom] [bottom] [text={\smallinfofont lower limits}]{a1}{a2}
\startformula
\int_{\mathboxanchored{a1}{0}}^{\mathboxanchored{b1}{1}} \frac{1}{1+x^2} \dd x
=
\int_{\mathboxanchored{a2}{0}}^{\pi\mathboxanchored{b2}{/}4} \frac{1}{1+\tan^2
t}(1+\tan^2 t)\dd t
\stopformula
\stopboxanchoring
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \hpos in math - Half solved
On 12/7/2022 1:42 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi List,
I solved my original problem 2, allowing me to reuse the same \hpos labels in
different equations without interference. I added an equation counter and set
up my custom math version of \hpos to use the count as part of the label
internally. I tried to do this with a regular ConTeXt counter, but had all
sorts of mysterious, wrong behavior. When I switched to using a Lua counter,
everything worked immediately. So, while there is nothing brilliant about this
solution, I’ll share it for anyone who might want to do something similar in
the future.
Using this could work
\newcount\SFNum
\global\advance\SFNum\plusone
\the\SFNum
(you now use a (global) lua counter
The code I added is below, with some comments. The complete example file is
attached. The result is two equations.
Each equation was written using the same labels (X,Y,Z), but internally they
have separate sets, (1:X and 2:X, etc.).
The moral of the story for me: Use more Lua.
but ... work local ... so
document.sfnum
etc in order to avoid clashes
Gavin
% Lua counts the spin formulas
\ctxlua{sfnum = 0} % Count starts at zero
\def\sfID{\ctxlua{context(sfnum)}} % ConTeXt can call the count from Lua to use
as an ID for each equation.
% Spin formulas increase the spin formula count and typeset the formula as
usual.
\define\startspinformula{
\ctxlua{sfnum = sfnum + 1}
\startformula
}
\define\stopspinformula{\stopformula}
% My own \mpos uses the spin formula ID as part of the box label, then sets the
contents as math.
\define[2]\mpos{\hpos{\sfID:#1}{$#2$}}
% Two commands for requesting contractions (the connections between spinors),
using the spin formula ID.
\define[2]\contract{%
\startpositionoverlay{graphics}%
\setMPpositiongraphic{\sfID:#1}{mypos:contract}{to=\sfID:#2}%
\stoppositionoverlay%
}
\define[2]\contractbelow{%
\startpositionoverlay{graphics}%
\setMPpositiongraphic{\sfID:#1}{mypos:contractbelow}{to=\sfID:#2}%
\stoppositionoverlay%
}
Attached what you can do in a next upload (on the million math test
files MS and I have by now)
Hans
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221206-1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] \hpos in math - Half solved
Hi List,
I solved my original problem 2, allowing me to reuse the same \hpos labels in
different equations without interference. I added an equation counter and set
up my custom math version of \hpos to use the count as part of the label
internally. I tried to do this with a regular ConTeXt counter, but had all
sorts of mysterious, wrong behavior. When I switched to using a Lua counter,
everything worked immediately. So, while there is nothing brilliant about this
solution, I’ll share it for anyone who might want to do something similar in
the future.
The code I added is below, with some comments. The complete example file is
attached. The result is two equations.
hposQuestionEquations.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
Each equation was written using the same labels (X,Y,Z), but internally they
have separate sets, (1:X and 2:X, etc.).
The moral of the story for me: Use more Lua.
Gavin
% Lua counts the spin formulas
\ctxlua{sfnum = 0} % Count starts at zero
\def\sfID{\ctxlua{context(sfnum)}} % ConTeXt can call the count from Lua to use
as an ID for each equation.
% Spin formulas increase the spin formula count and typeset the formula as
usual.
\define\startspinformula{
\ctxlua{sfnum = sfnum + 1}
\startformula
}
\define\stopspinformula{\stopformula}
% My own \mpos uses the spin formula ID as part of the box label, then sets the
contents as math.
\define[2]\mpos{\hpos{\sfID:#1}{$#2$}}
% Two commands for requesting contractions (the connections between spinors),
using the spin formula ID.
\define[2]\contract{%
\startpositionoverlay{graphics}%
\setMPpositiongraphic{\sfID:#1}{mypos:contract}{to=\sfID:#2}%
\stoppositionoverlay%
}
\define[2]\contractbelow{%
\startpositionoverlay{graphics}%
\setMPpositiongraphic{\sfID:#1}{mypos:contractbelow}{to=\sfID:#2}%
\stoppositionoverlay%
}
hposQuestion.tex
Description: Binary data
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics oddity
Alan Bowen via ntg-context schrieb am 18.11.2022 um 23:48:
The following
\setupmathematics[autopunctuation={all,semicolon}]
%\setupmathematics[autopunctuation={all, semicolon}]
%\setupmathematics[autopunctuation={all,semicolon,colon}]
\starttext
\startformula
0,0;2,0,35,17,40,41\textdegree{} \cdot 365;15 \cdot 40 =
2,9;23,14\textdegree{}.
\stopformula
\stoptext
works as it should (no space after the “;” or the “,”).
With the second and third versions of \setupmathematics there is an
unwanted space after each punctuation mark.
Even though it seems like the autopunctuation key accepts a list of
values this isn't the case
at the moment. Only values from the following list are valid arguments
for the key:
- yes
- no
- all
- comma
- yes,semicolon
- comma,semicolon
- all,semicolon
The reason for this is that values like "all,semicolon" are treated as
keyword and the comma
is part of the keyword, this means you can't change the order of the
words and even spaces
after the comma make the argument invalid.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] annotated equations
On 11/18/2022 5:25 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Here’s an interesting example for annotated equations, done with LaTeX/TikZ: https://mastodon.social/@sibin/109349703357749846 I guess something similar is possible with node anchors in ConTeXt/MetaPost? Yes, this is possible using node anchors and \hpos etc. The interface is slightly cumbersome, mainly because you have to make sure that anchors are unique. I sometimes use such constructs in my presentations, but not often enough to build a nice interface as the latex package provides. eventually there will be something as part of the math upsate (we also have some stuff for matrices already) but only documenting can make if final (as then we check consistency); the problem is not the interface but to *not* mess up the math spacing that we want to be 'perfect' if such features are used without the need to interfere Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] annotated equations
On 11/17/2022 1:46 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Here’s an interesting example for annotated equations, done with LaTeX/TikZ: https://mastodon.social/@sibin/109349703357749846 I guess something similar is possible with node anchors in ConTeXt/MetaPost? Mikael and I played plenty with annotating formulas as part of all this math stuff (part of exploring interference with spacing which is something we don't want cq. bother users with); for inline, display and matrices but as usual it's demand driven so it is pending 'documenting' and 'interface improvements' ... it's not like users are screaming for these features and there are no projects that drive them so "yes, it's there, but you need to check the examples (in the source)" the priorities are currently: math tweaks (+ fixing some fonts), new math manual, additional trickery, mixed with stimulating metafun (attached a quick and dirty copy of one of our many todo docs) Hans (who every time he sees something called 'mastodon' has to smile and remember reading https://eu.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/2020/10/16/carl-hiaasen-writes-pythons-palm-beach-and-potus-new-book/3667047001/) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - demo.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] how to simulate \hss in luametatex?
Hans,
thank you.
By your and Max's answers, I understand that
there must be box.glueset for the glues in the box.list to actually work.
Best regards
Huang Fusyong(黄复雄)
Hans Hagen via ntg-context 于2022年11月11日周五 18:52写道：
>
> On 11/11/2022 10:53 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> I want to simulate \hss in lua end in ConTeXt/luametatex environment.
> >> For example,
> >>
> >> ```ConTeXt
> >> a{\raise 1.5ex\hbox to 0pt{\hss b}}c
> >> ```
> >
> >> And in lua, I do as follows(part of my app seen in attachment):
> >
> > Your code doesn't compile as is. I think that this is the same thing
> > though:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \startluacode
> > local a = node.new"glyph"
> > a.char = string.byte("a")
> > a.font = font.current()
> >
> > local b = node.new"glyph"
> > b.char = string.byte("b")
> > b.font = font.current()
> >
> > local c = node.new"glyph"
> > c.char = string.byte("c")
> > c.font = font.current()
> >
> > local hss = node.new("glue")
> > hss.stretch = 65536
> > hss.stretchorder = 2
> > hss.shrink = 65536
> > hss.shrinkorder = 2
> > hss.width = 0
> > b = node.insertbefore(b, b, hss)
> >
> > local box = node.new("hlist", "box")
> > box.head = b
> > box.width = 0
> > box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
> >
> > tex.forcehmode()
> > node.write(a + box + c)
> > \stopluacode
> > \stoptext
> >
> >> And got 'b' on top of 'c' in pdf as follows:
> >>
> >> ```pdf
> >>b
> >> ac
> >> ```
> >
> > The \hss isn't the problem here. The problem is actually with the box.
> > When you manually make the \hbox like that, I think (although I could be
> > wrong) that you're bypassing all of TeX's glue calculations. You should
> > probably use "node.hpack" instead:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \startluacode
> > local a = node.new"glyph"
> > a.char = string.byte("a")
> > a.font = font.current()
> >
> > local b = node.new"glyph"
> > b.char = string.byte("b")
> > b.font = font.current()
> >
> > local c = node.new"glyph"
> > c.char = string.byte("c")
> > c.font = font.current()
> >
> > local hss = node.new("glue")
> > hss.stretch = 65536
> > hss.stretchorder = 2
> > hss.shrink = 65536
> > hss.shrinkorder = 2
> > hss.width = 0
> >
> > local box = node.hpack(hss + b, "exactly", 0)
> > box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
> >
> > tex.forcehmode()
> > a.next = box
> > box.next = c
> > node.write(a)
> > \stopluacode
> > \stoptext
> indeed, an dafter that you can check it
>
> box.glueorder : 2
> box.glueset: 6.6683349609375
> box.gluesign : 2
>
> which will be applied (in the backend) to glues
>
> Hans
>
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Re: [NTG-context] how to simulate \hss in luametatex?
Dear Max,
I am very grateful that you took the time to tweak and test my
non-running code snippet
and found the problem.
> local box = node.hpack(hss + b, "exactly", 0)
You are absolutely right, the cause of the problem was that I wasn't
using node.hpack().
Actually, I tried to use it, but used it wrong, as follows:
local box, _ = node_hpack(list)
box.width = 0
box.shift = -tex_sp("1ex")
My app works fine now. Also, I learned a lot from your code, like
font.current(), hss + b
and tex.forcehmode() - I immediately used the last one to set
box.shift, making it relative.
Best regards
Huang Fusyong(黄复雄)
Max Chernoff via ntg-context 于2022年11月11日周五 17:55写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> > I want to simulate \hss in lua end in ConTeXt/luametatex environment.
> > For example,
> >
> > ```ConTeXt
> > a{\raise 1.5ex\hbox to 0pt{\hss b}}c
> > ```
>
> > And in lua, I do as follows(part of my app seen in attachment):
>
> Your code doesn't compile as is. I think that this is the same thing
> though:
>
>\starttext
>\startluacode
>local a = node.new"glyph"
>a.char = string.byte("a")
>a.font = font.current()
>
>local b = node.new"glyph"
>b.char = string.byte("b")
>b.font = font.current()
>
>local c = node.new"glyph"
>c.char = string.byte("c")
>c.font = font.current()
>
>local hss = node.new("glue")
>hss.stretch = 65536
>hss.stretchorder = 2
>hss.shrink = 65536
>hss.shrinkorder = 2
>hss.width = 0
>b = node.insertbefore(b, b, hss)
>
>local box = node.new("hlist", "box")
>box.head = b
>box.width = 0
>box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
>
>tex.forcehmode()
>node.write(a + box + c)
>\stopluacode
>\stoptext
>
> > And got 'b' on top of 'c' in pdf as follows:
> >
> > ```pdf
> > b
> > ac
> > ```
>
> The \hss isn't the problem here. The problem is actually with the box.
> When you manually make the \hbox like that, I think (although I could be
> wrong) that you're bypassing all of TeX's glue calculations. You should
> probably use "node.hpack" instead:
>
>\starttext
>\startluacode
>local a = node.new"glyph"
>a.char = string.byte("a")
>a.font = font.current()
>
>local b = node.new"glyph"
>b.char = string.byte("b")
>b.font = font.current()
>
>local c = node.new"glyph"
>c.char = string.byte("c")
>c.font = font.current()
>
>local hss = node.new("glue")
>hss.stretch = 65536
>hss.stretchorder = 2
>hss.shrink = 65536
>hss.shrinkorder = 2
>hss.width = 0
>
>local box = node.hpack(hss + b, "exactly", 0)
>box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
>
>tex.forcehmode()
>a.next = box
>box.next = c
>node.write(a)
>\stopluacode
>\stoptext
>
> -- Max
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Re: [NTG-context] how to simulate \hss in luametatex?
On 11/11/2022 10:53 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I want to simulate \hss in lua end in ConTeXt/luametatex environment.
For example,
```ConTeXt
a{\raise 1.5ex\hbox to 0pt{\hss b}}c
```
And in lua, I do as follows(part of my app seen in attachment):
Your code doesn't compile as is. I think that this is the same thing
though:
\starttext
\startluacode
local a = node.new"glyph"
a.char = string.byte("a")
a.font = font.current()
local b = node.new"glyph"
b.char = string.byte("b")
b.font = font.current()
local c = node.new"glyph"
c.char = string.byte("c")
c.font = font.current()
local hss = node.new("glue")
hss.stretch = 65536
hss.stretchorder = 2
hss.shrink = 65536
hss.shrinkorder = 2
hss.width = 0
b = node.insertbefore(b, b, hss)
local box = node.new("hlist", "box")
box.head = b
box.width = 0
box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
tex.forcehmode()
node.write(a + box + c)
\stopluacode
\stoptext
And got 'b' on top of 'c' in pdf as follows:
```pdf
b
ac
```
The \hss isn't the problem here. The problem is actually with the box.
When you manually make the \hbox like that, I think (although I could be
wrong) that you're bypassing all of TeX's glue calculations. You should
probably use "node.hpack" instead:
\starttext
\startluacode
local a = node.new"glyph"
a.char = string.byte("a")
a.font = font.current()
local b = node.new"glyph"
b.char = string.byte("b")
b.font = font.current()
local c = node.new"glyph"
c.char = string.byte("c")
c.font = font.current()
local hss = node.new("glue")
hss.stretch = 65536
hss.stretchorder = 2
hss.shrink = 65536
hss.shrinkorder = 2
hss.width = 0
local box = node.hpack(hss + b, "exactly", 0)
box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
tex.forcehmode()
a.next = box
box.next = c
node.write(a)
\stopluacode
\stoptext
indeed, an dafter that you can check it
box.glueorder : 2
box.glueset: 6.6683349609375
box.gluesign : 2
which will be applied (in the backend) to glues
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] how to simulate \hss in luametatex?
Hi,
> I want to simulate \hss in lua end in ConTeXt/luametatex environment.
> For example,
>
> ```ConTeXt
> a{\raise 1.5ex\hbox to 0pt{\hss b}}c
> ```
> And in lua, I do as follows(part of my app seen in attachment):
Your code doesn't compile as is. I think that this is the same thing
though:
\starttext
\startluacode
local a = node.new"glyph"
a.char = string.byte("a")
a.font = font.current()
local b = node.new"glyph"
b.char = string.byte("b")
b.font = font.current()
local c = node.new"glyph"
c.char = string.byte("c")
c.font = font.current()
local hss = node.new("glue")
hss.stretch = 65536
hss.stretchorder = 2
hss.shrink = 65536
hss.shrinkorder = 2
hss.width = 0
b = node.insertbefore(b, b, hss)
local box = node.new("hlist", "box")
box.head = b
box.width = 0
box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
tex.forcehmode()
node.write(a + box + c)
\stopluacode
\stoptext
> And got 'b' on top of 'c' in pdf as follows:
>
> ```pdf
> b
> ac
> ```
The \hss isn't the problem here. The problem is actually with the box.
When you manually make the \hbox like that, I think (although I could be
wrong) that you're bypassing all of TeX's glue calculations. You should
probably use "node.hpack" instead:
\starttext
\startluacode
local a = node.new"glyph"
a.char = string.byte("a")
a.font = font.current()
local b = node.new"glyph"
b.char = string.byte("b")
b.font = font.current()
local c = node.new"glyph"
c.char = string.byte("c")
c.font = font.current()
local hss = node.new("glue")
hss.stretch = 65536
hss.stretchorder = 2
hss.shrink = 65536
hss.shrinkorder = 2
hss.width = 0
local box = node.hpack(hss + b, "exactly", 0)
box.shift = -tex.sp("1ex")
tex.forcehmode()
a.next = box
box.next = c
node.write(a)
\stopluacode
\stoptext
-- Max
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[NTG-context] how to simulate \hss in luametatex?
Hi list,
I want to simulate \hss in lua end in ConTeXt/luametatex environment.
For example,
```ConTeXt
a{\raise 1.5ex\hbox to 0pt{\hss b}}c
```
should get 'b' on top of 'a', as follows:
```pdf
b
ac
```
and in lua, I see a before "b" node, width
width:0, stretch:65536, shrink:65536, stretchorder:2, shrinkorder:2
And in lua, I do as follows(part of my app seen in attachment):
```lua
local hss = node_new(glue_id)
hss.stretch = 65536
hss.stretchorder = 2
hss.shrink = 65536
hss.shrinkorder = 2
hss.width = 0
list,_ = node_insertbefore(list, list, hss) -- b is in the list
-- I got a with
width:0, stretch:65536, shrink:65536, stretchorder:2, shrinkorder:2
local box = node_new(hlist_id, "box")
box.head = list
box.width = 0
box.shift = -tex_sp("1ex")
-- I got width:0 height:0 deep:0
shift: -503424
head, current = node_insertbefore(head,current, box) -- current is 'c' node
```
And got 'b' on top of 'c' in pdf as follows:
```pdf
b
ac
```
How can I get 'b' on top of 'a' as \hss do?
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Re: [NTG-context] font features
On 11/3/22 19:24, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: You're going way too complex. Access to features and info has alwaye been part of mkic (and therefore lmtx). You can peek into the s-font* styles for all kind of ways to get overviews. Anyway, the following helper operates on the current font: Thank you, Hans! Yes, I had a hunch that most of this was unnecessary because the information is already there. I also thought it would be convenient to have a helper script that could display everything before I decide whether I want to add a font to my texmf-font tree... Will play with this and then wikify! All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] font features
On 11/3/2022 2:03 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context wrote:
On 11/3/22 13:27, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
If it works for you, then it’s a problem of my installation, otherwise
a regression in current LMTX...
No, I get the same error message, this looks promising but doesn't work.
And at the risk of sounding grumpy, but all of this is too much manual
intervention; I would like to have a completely automated script. So
I'll show what I have and add a few comments:
local Feature_Table = { }
local Parsed_Features = { }
local My_Font = environment.arguments["font"]
local Font_Features = os.resultof("otfinfo -f " .. My_Font)
for Feature_Sigla, Feature_Name in
string.gmatch(Font_Features, "(%S-)\t(.-)\n") do
Feature_Table[Feature_Sigla] = Feature_Name
end
COMMENTS
Expectation: this should return a list of all features and their
descriptions as a lua table. If you run the file as
context test.cld --font="/path/to/font"
this works, and you get a table
Feature_Table={
["aalt"]="Access All Alternates",
["c2sc"]="Small Capitals From Capitals"} etc.
CODE
for name, _ in pairs(Feature_Table) do
Context_Name = "f:" .. name
Parsed_Features[name] = Context_Name
context.definefontfeature( { Context_Name }, { name="yes" } )
end
COMMENTS
This should produce a lua table with ConTeXt fontfeatures and define
those features. The table appears to be correct:
Parsed_Features={
["aalt"]="f:aalt",
["c2sc"]="f:c2sc"} etc.
So I expected that this should be equivalent to
\definefontfeature [f:aalt] [aalt=yes]
and return a list of defined features.
CODE
local Test_String = [[
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 1234567890 1/4 2/8
3/9 ffi ft fi fl ffl
]]
local Font_Name = os.resultof("otfinfo -a " .. My_Font)
context.definefontfamily( { "Test" }, { "serif" }, { Font_Name }, {} )
context.setupbodyfont{ "Test, 12pt" }
COMMENTS
Again, this works; the font is set as bodyfont.
CODE
context.starttext()
for name, feature in pairs(Feature_Table) do
context.start ()
context.addfeature { Parsed_Features[name] }
context.midaligned (feature)
context.bold (Parsed_Features[name])
context.par ()
context.blank{ "medium" }
context(Test_String)
context.par ()
context.stop ()
end
context.stoptext()
COMMENTS
And this doesn't work: the names are picked up, but the font features
are not defined; the sample text does not reflect any features. So this
is what I've got... maybe one of the wizards can help.
You're going way too complex. Access to features and info has alwaye
been part of mkic (and therefore lmtx). You can peek into the s-font*
styles for all kind of ways to get overviews. Anyway, the following
helper operates on the current font:
\starttext
\startluacode
function document.ShowFeatures(script)
local test = [[
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
1234567890
1/4 2/8 3/9
ffi ft fi fl ffl
]]
local font = fonts.hashes.identifiers[true]
local features = font.resources.features
-- inspect(features)
for name, detail in table.sortedhash(features.gsub) do
if #name == 4 then
context.type(name)
context.quad()
if script then
context.type(script)
context.quad()
end
-- this should be doen once in order to save memory
-- not too hard to do ..
context.definefontfeature(
{ "f:"..name },
{ [name] = "yes", script = script }
)
context.start()
context.addff("f:"..name)
context(test)
context.stop()
context.blank()
end
end
end
\stopluacode
\definedfont[LibertinusSerif-Regular.otf*always]
\ctxlua{document.ShowFeatures()}
% \ctxlua{document.ShowFeatures("latn")}
% \ctxlua{document.ShowFeatures("grek")}
\stoptext
But, be aware that (1) features can combine in weird ways, (2) some
features are only meant to be applied to a sunset of characters, (3)
some are driven by script and/or language. Also, (4) you need to load
the font without any features except the ones that enable node mode.
So, now you need to wikify ...
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] never add a hyphen to break a URL
On 10/24/22 18:54, Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
>
> according to the Chicago Manual of Style we should «never add a hyphen to
> break a URL»:
>
> (https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/URLs/faq0008.html)
Hi Steffen,
I think this is not even a question of style.
myhouse.com and my-house.com are different domains.
> Is there a switch to forbid \useURL adding hyphens?
\hyphenatedurl{} is the way to go. Although you add a hyphen (and a
blank space [spaces as part of urls need to be escaped) to your url.
I would also enclose the url inside \startasciimode...\stopasciimode to
avoid escaping the percent sign.
The percent sign has to be escaped as \letterpercent (otherwise, you get
\%) in text.
A simpler approach would read (there is a single url, instead of two
[less typos in the end]):
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
\def\MyURL[#1]{\goto{\tt\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(#1)]}
\MyURL[https://litteraturbanken.se/författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only]
\stoptext
But https://wiki.contextgarden.net/URL has more info.
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 10/17/2022 3:38 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:07 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already
> >>>> mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in
> >>>> the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as
> >>>> part of improving the rendering of math.
> >>>
> >>> Something is wrong with the placement of limits around an integral with
> NeoEuler:
> >>>
> >>> \usetypescriptfile[euler]
> >>>
> >>> \definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
> >>> \definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
> >>> \definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
> features=none]
> >>> \setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
> >>>
> >>> \starttext
> >>> \startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
> >>>$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} f(x) dx$
> >>> \stopTEXpage
> >>> \stoptext
> >>>
> >>> gives the attached result.
> >>
> >> This is because the integral "sits wrong" in its boundingbox. Almost
> >> all fonts have the glyph centered around the math axis, but there are
> >> a few that doesn't. In euler-math.lfg, add the tweak
> >>
> >> {
> >> tweak = "fixoldschool",
> >> },
> >
> > This fixes the issue with eulernova, but not with pagellaovereuler.
> pagellaovereuler uses euler-with-pagella-math as a goodie file, but that is
> missing from the distribution. (I simply copied euler-math.lfg for my use
> case).
> >
> > With tweak=fixoldschool, \startcases doesn't work correctly (see attached):
> >
> > \usetypescriptfile[euler]
> >
> > \definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
> > \definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
> > \definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
> features=none]
> > \setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
> >\startformula
> > \startcases
> >\NC A \NC B \NR
> >\NC C \NC D \NR
> > \stopcases
> >\stopformula
> > \stopTEXpage
> > \stoptext
>
> Looks like some older experimental value is wrong:
>
> parameters = {
> -- DelimiterPercent= 901,
> DelimiterShortfall = 500,
> },
>
> (that whole lfg is a todo)
Thanks. This fixes the delimiters.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 10/17/2022 3:38 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:07 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already
mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in
the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as
part of improving the rendering of math.
Something is wrong with the placement of limits around an integral with
NeoEuler:
\usetypescriptfile[euler]
\definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
features=none]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} f(x) dx$
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
gives the attached result.
This is because the integral "sits wrong" in its boundingbox. Almost
all fonts have the glyph centered around the math axis, but there are
a few that doesn't. In euler-math.lfg, add the tweak
{
tweak = "fixoldschool",
},
This fixes the issue with eulernova, but not with pagellaovereuler.
pagellaovereuler uses euler-with-pagella-math as a goodie file, but that is
missing from the distribution. (I simply copied euler-math.lfg for my use case).
With tweak=fixoldschool, \startcases doesn't work correctly (see attached):
\usetypescriptfile[euler]
\definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
features=none]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
\startformula
\startcases
\NC A \NC B \NR
\NC C \NC D \NR
\stopcases
\stopformula
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
Looks like some older experimental value is wrong:
parameters = {
-- DelimiterPercent= 901,
DelimiterShortfall = 500,
},
(that whole lfg is a todo)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
Hi Mikael,
I use Lucida in my documents and did not notice any problem with the integrals
and other large operators.
Do you mean in the future I have to update to a new version of Lucida (and pay
again…) or will future versions of LuaMetaTeX handle correctly large operators
typeset in Lucida ?
The issue I observed with the new upload of 2022.10.15 is that the
presentations I typeset with the simpleslides module are broken after three
pages, but could not set up a minimal working example to send to the list.
Those presentations are typeset correctly with previous versions.
Has Metapost changed some crucial settings ?
Best regards: Otared
> On 16 Oct 2022, at 19:03, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:07 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already
>>> mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in
>>> the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as
>>> part of improving the rendering of math.
>>
>> Something is wrong with the placement of limits around an integral with
>> NeoEuler:
>>
>> \usetypescriptfile[euler]
>>
>> \definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
>> \definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
>> \definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
>> features=none]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
>> $\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} f(x) dx$
>> \stopTEXpage
>> \stoptext
>>
>> gives the attached result.
>
> This is because the integral "sits wrong" in its boundingbox. Almost
> all fonts have the glyph centered around the math axis, but there are
> a few that doesn't. In euler-math.lfg, add the tweak
>
> {
> tweak = "fixoldschool",
> },
>
> In fact, we have not updated the euler goodie file for a while it
> seems. I think there are more things that can be improved. Hopefully
> before next release.
>
> It can also be mentioned that some fonts (Daniel Flipo was quick to
> fix concrete, erewhon and kpfonts) was fixed recently regarding this,
> and it is reported on and fixed in development of Lucida.
>
> /Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:07 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already
> > > mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in
> > > the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as
> > > part of improving the rendering of math.
> >
> > Something is wrong with the placement of limits around an integral with
> > NeoEuler:
> >
> > \usetypescriptfile[euler]
> >
> > \definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
> > \definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
> > \definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
> > features=none]
> > \setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
> > $\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} f(x) dx$
> > \stopTEXpage
> > \stoptext
> >
> > gives the attached result.
>
> This is because the integral "sits wrong" in its boundingbox. Almost
> all fonts have the glyph centered around the math axis, but there are
> a few that doesn't. In euler-math.lfg, add the tweak
>
> {
> tweak = "fixoldschool",
> },
This fixes the issue with eulernova, but not with pagellaovereuler.
pagellaovereuler uses euler-with-pagella-math as a goodie file, but that is
missing from the distribution. (I simply copied euler-math.lfg for my use
case).
With tweak=fixoldschool, \startcases doesn't work correctly (see attached):
\usetypescriptfile[euler]
\definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
features=none]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
\startformula
\startcases
\NC A \NC B \NR
\NC C \NC D \NR
\stopcases
\stopformula
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
Hi,
On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:07 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already
> > mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in
> > the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as
> > part of improving the rendering of math.
>
> Something is wrong with the placement of limits around an integral with
> NeoEuler:
>
> \usetypescriptfile[euler]
>
> \definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
> \definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
> \definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
> features=none]
> \setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
>
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
> $\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} f(x) dx$
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
>
> gives the attached result.
This is because the integral "sits wrong" in its boundingbox. Almost
all fonts have the glyph centered around the math axis, but there are
a few that doesn't. In euler-math.lfg, add the tweak
{
tweak = "fixoldschool",
},
In fact, we have not updated the euler goodie file for a while it
seems. I think there are more things that can be improved. Hopefully
before next release.
It can also be mentioned that some fonts (Daniel Flipo was quick to
fix concrete, erewhon and kpfonts) was fixed recently regarding this,
and it is reported on and fixed in development of Lucida.
/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already
> mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in
> the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as
> part of improving the rendering of math.
Something is wrong with the placement of limits around an integral with
NeoEuler:
\usetypescriptfile[euler]
\definetypeface[mainfont][rm][specserif][CharisSil][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][mm][math] [eulernova][default]
\definetypeface[mainfont][tt][mono] [dejavu][default] [rscale=0.8,
features=none]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont,10pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1mm]
$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} f(x) dx$
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
gives the attached result.
Thanks,
Aditya
test.pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 10/15/2022 10:48 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 10/15/22 09:41, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 10/14/2022 4:14 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: [...] Many thanks for the new version, Hans. I have discovered that it includes in tex/texmf-context/source/luametatex what should be the LMTX source (about 11MB). It zips to 2 MB and totals to less of a picture on a fancy phone ... Many thanks for your reply, Hans. At least on my system, I think every file is downloaded uncompressed. With a low speed connection (here, the service isn’t great all the time), having to download over 400 files is a killer. as has been pointed out, you only download the changed files and those are not many when sources are not included some complain, when they are others com-plain ... The storage space on disk is irrelevant, I totally agree with you. I wish I could say that large updates such as these weren’t a problem in some cases. But sometimes this isn’t true here. With incremental updates, the downloading process takes way shorter in subsequent updates (as Alan pointed out). But the first time it might take too much (so the script quits). just run twice as the script will pick up the idea is to provide the user with all he needs as archive so no dependencies (apart from a compiler). Also by including the source we can sort of guaranteed that you get what you expect to work with the tex files (no interference with distribution patches our of our control). It has always been part of the plan with luametatex. So ... it will not be optional. I asked to make this optional not to avoid having the source, but to be able to complete the update process. i guess a few extra fonts are more demanding, actually the number of fonts in the installation dropped (for now) so that compensates the larger source tree I’m not extremely confident, but I hope I will manage to update ConTeXt at the office (next working day). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 10/15/22 09:41, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 10/14/2022 4:14 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: >> [...] >> Many thanks for the new version, Hans. >> >> I have discovered that it includes in >> tex/texmf-context/source/luametatex what should be the LMTX source >> (about 11MB). > > It zips to 2 MB and totals to less of a picture on a fancy phone ... Many thanks for your reply, Hans. At least on my system, I think every file is downloaded uncompressed. With a low speed connection (here, the service isn’t great all the time), having to download over 400 files is a killer. The storage space on disk is irrelevant, I totally agree with you. I wish I could say that large updates such as these weren’t a problem in some cases. But sometimes this isn’t true here. With incremental updates, the downloading process takes way shorter in subsequent updates (as Alan pointed out). But the first time it might take too much (so the script quits). > the idea is to provide the user with all he needs as archive so no > dependencies (apart from a compiler). Also by including the source we > can sort of guaranteed that you get what you expect to work with the tex > files (no interference with distribution patches our of our control). It > has always been part of the plan with luametatex. So ... it will not be > optional. I asked to make this optional not to avoid having the source, but to be able to complete the update process. I’m not extremely confident, but I hope I will manage to update ConTeXt at the office (next working day). Many thanks for your help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 10/14/2022 4:14 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 10/14/22 10:21, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as part of improving the rendering of math. Many thanks for the new version, Hans. I have discovered that it includes in tex/texmf-context/source/luametatex what should be the LMTX source (about 11MB). It zips to 2 MB and totals to less of a picture on a fancy phone .. tre idea is to provide the user with all he needs as archive so no dependenccies (apart from a compiler). Also by including the source we can sort of guaranteed that you get what you expect to work with the tex files (no interference with distribution patches our of our control). It has always been part of the plan with luametatex. So .. it wil not be optional. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] atan2 function
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 16:09:41 -0700
Thangalin wrote:
> Would making the conditional part of the API be useful to others?
Of course, $\tan^{-1}(\pm 1)$ is undefined (mathematically).
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] atan2 function
That's certainly tighter, thank you, Alan. Would making the conditional part of the API be useful to others? Cheers! On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:42 PM Alan Braslau wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 11:59:49 -0700 > Thangalin wrote: > > > I don't think an atantwo is needed. I *thought* I had read somewhere > > that atan( y, x ) was equivalent to calling atan2 in Lua. Ensuring > > there's no breakage when x == y would be nice, though. It was a little > > surprising to see angle return degrees rather than radians, but it > > does simplify my code: > > > > dc := vbc - vac; > > dr := vbr - var; > > vi := 0; > > > > if not( dc == dr ): > > vi := round( angle( dc, dr ) / 60 ); > > fi; > > > > % Compute the direction towards the first segment (to vertex of > > an edge). vangle := vi * 60 * pi / 180; > > > > Even simpler would be: > > > > dc := vbc - vac; > > dr := vbr - var; > > vi := round( angle( dc, dr ) / 60 ); % returns 0 when dc == dr > > > > % Compute the direction towards the first segment (to vertex of > > an edge). vangle := vi * 60 * pi / 180; > > > > Or accepting a third argument as the return value in the special case: > > > > vi := round( angle( dc, dr, 0 ) / 60 ); % returns 0 when dc == > > dr > > > > Cheers! > > vi := if (dc = dr) : 0 else : round (angle(dc,dr)/60) fi ; > > Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 10/14/22 10:21, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, > > I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already > mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in > the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as > part of improving the rendering of math. Many thanks for the new version, Hans. I have discovered that it includes in tex/texmf-context/source/luametatex what should be the LMTX source (about 11MB). I wonder whether this could be made optional. Internet speed is not constant where I live and it was impossible for me to update at work (after many attempts to download the newer version). Just in case it would be possible, modules (also as an option) would be more useful for many of us. Many thanks for your excellet work, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new upload
Hi, I uploaded a new version. Apart from a few fixes / extensions already mentioned here (or known to those who wanted it) the main changes are in the math goodie files (work in progress, we will clean them up later) as part of improving the rendering of math. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] That fixes both issues, thanks! Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;) Oops, I answered only to Leah: I agree. Someone (Hans or Wolfgang, probably) told me at one time, or I picked it up from a discussion on the list, and it’s part of my default setup since. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
