Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

2021-01-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Thank you, Joaquin, for this wonderfully systematic bit of work. I wish I had had this three or four years ago. There has been a bit of a discussion here about whether ConTeXt manuals should start from the assumption that the reader already is familiar with LaTeX or not. If I may cast a vote

Re: [NTG-context] a new book has been published, made with the help of ConTeXt

2020-12-23 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 20.12.20 01:09, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > Congratulations for the release of your book, Robert. > It is really a pleasure to be able to page through the final PDF. >> >> [...] ConTeXt was The Solution [...]. > > Would it be the [features=kannada-one] also a solution for a similar book? I

Re: [NTG-context] Indic fonts with MkIV and

2020-12-19 Thread Robert Zydenbos
I'll do some testing and see what I can contribute. Robert On 19.12.20 22:12, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 12/19/20 8:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> [...] >> can you wikify this? > Wikified at https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Indic_Scripts. > > Please, Robert, could you improve it? > > Many thanks

[NTG-context] a new book has been published, made with the help of ConTeXt

2020-12-19 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Dear readers, With great joy and a sense of relief I can now announce that my latest book, _A Manual of Modern Kannada_ by Robert Zydenbos (Heidelberg / Berlin: CrossAsia E-Publishing, 2020), a teaching manual of the Kannada language (Kannada belongs to the Dravidian family of languages

Re: [NTG-context] Indic fonts with MkIV and

2020-12-19 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 19.12.20 03:42, Jairo A. del Rio wrote: > You need to use the LuaHBTeX backend which isn't actually supported by > ConTeXt (and Hans doesn't like it either, I think). There's a plugin mode, > however. If not in the mailing list, more info about Harfbuzz in ConTeXt is > available in some

Re: [NTG-context] Indic fonts with MkIV and

2020-12-19 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 19.12.20 09:10, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: YES… YES! YES YES YES YES YES YES (I'm trying to express enthusiasm.) That's it! The remaining question here is: where do I find such magical expressions like "features=kannada-one"? (Why "kannada-one"? "One"???) If I know that, then (so I assume) I

[NTG-context] Indic fonts with MkIV and

2020-12-18 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Dear all, Recently I read about the use of Harfbuzz-enhanced LuaTeX with LaTeX for writing Arabic. Following that example, I wrote a minimal test text that worked excellently for Kannada script as well: - \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec}

Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-09-16 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 13. Sep 2019, at 12:31, luigi scarso wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Robert Zydenbos wrote: > > When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. > :-) > > > luahbtex (in texlive 2020) has harfbuzz embedded . T

Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-09-13 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a working > minimal example to reproduce the problem. When you need more control about > the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV which has more >

Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-08-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
That helps! But in any case, it looks like the problems are actually several (also the one of the precise order of the words in the index), and I think the 'fastest' solution for now is that I just compile the index (only 4 pages), make a separate component file and rearrange the contents by

[NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-08-21 Thread Robert Zydenbos
I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it) is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'. Is there any way to tell the

Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries

2019-08-21 Thread Robert Zydenbos
, at 17:10, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > On 8/21/19 10:59 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >> Dear list members, >> >> In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands >> for formatting index entries, like: >> >> \index{sl::īga} >> [...] >

Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries

2019-08-21 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Sorry, that works fine in MkIV, but not in MkII, which I need to use. Robert > On 21. Aug 2019, at 17:33, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 21.08.2019 um 10:59: >> Dear list members, >> >> In my book I am creating an index.

[NTG-context] formatting index entries

2019-08-21 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Dear list members, In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands for formatting index entries, like: \index{sl::īga} if I want the word 'īga' to be printed in slanted type. I also know that we can create sub-entries, like \index{īga+emphasized} But now I want the word

Re: [NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
chapter % in another chapter: As we already saw in \in{chapter}[wild-stuff], on p.~\at[wild-stuff] % that was in the other chapter % end of example and the result would be: “As we already saw in chapter 4, on p.~38”… Can such a thing be done? Robert > On 22. Feb 2019, at 22:04, Robert Zyden

Re: [NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
s because I am using MkII with XeTeX? Robert > On 22. Feb 2019, at 20:47, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.02.19 um 17:14: >> Dear wizards of ConTeXt, >> In the final stage of completing a book project, I was wondering how to >> aut

[NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Dear wizards of ConTeXt, In the final stage of completing a book project, I was wondering how to automatize cross references to chapters. I’ve already figured out how to refer to pages (using “\at[REFERENCE]”), but how is this done with chapters? I’m apparently too simple-minded to understand

Re: [NTG-context] referencing a footnote (and getting the right number)

2018-08-12 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 12. Aug 2018, at 17:38, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > the reference command in notes is \in (for both MkII and MkIV), such as in: > >\starttext >\dorecurse{30}{\footnote{Footnote}} >\footnote[uvu-avu]{These two suffixes […]} >

Re: [NTG-context] referencing a footnote

2018-08-12 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 12. Aug 2018, at 17:52, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > Sorry, Robert, I almost forgot it. > > If you reset the footnote numbers in each chapter, I’d rather suggest > something similar to: > > \footnote{See n.~\in[uvu-avu] on p.~\at[uvu-avu].} > > Since footnote numbers aren’t unique,

[NTG-context] referencing a footnote

2018-08-12 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Another footnote question for the experts. I want to refer to a note from within another, later note. I thought I could do this in the following way: … \footnote[uvu-avu]{These two suffixes […] … \footnote{See n.~\note[uvu-avu].} … But I get this result: There are two things wrong: (1) I

Re: [NTG-context] resetting footnote counter

2018-08-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
:37, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Aug 2018, Robert Zydenbos wrote: > >> I have tried ‘\resetcounter [footnote]’ (a suggested solution on that web >> page), but it does not work (at least not in MkII+XeTeX). ‘\setupcounter >> [footnote] [0]’ (also suggested

[NTG-context] resetting footnote counter

2018-08-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
:37, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Aug 2018, Robert Zydenbos wrote: > >> I have tried ‘\resetcounter [footnote]’ (a suggested solution on that web >> page), but it does not work (at least not in MkII+XeTeX). ‘\setupcounter >> [footnote] [0]’ (also suggested

Re: [NTG-context] resetting footnote counter

2018-08-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
tex.stackexchange.com has page titled “How to manually reset the footnote numbering in ConTeXt?” (https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/359702/how-to-manually-reset-the-footnote-numbering-in-context), where exactly the same question was asked: ---begin quote--- “I have a document with many

Re: [NTG-context] general suggestion for ConTeXt documentation

2018-08-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 8. Aug 2018, at 17:28, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > […] I might be totally missing your point here, but it seems to me that you > try to know what can be achieved in general with ConTeXt, even before to > learn how to use ConTeXt for your typesetting needs. Not really. My

Re: [NTG-context] resetting footnote counter

2018-08-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
named X (=footnote counter) is now 0 again", which I could insert at the beginning of every chapter, the problem would be solved. (Not so elegant, but it would be a solution.) Robert > On 8. Aug 2018, at 17:36, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > On 08/08/2018 05:03 PM, Robert Zyden

Re: [NTG-context] resetting footnote counter

2018-08-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
ote: > > On 08/08/2018 03:55 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: >>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 15:33, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >>> >>> A simple footnote question this time. I would like to print >>> endnotes at the end of every chapter in my book, and then reset the >>> foot

[NTG-context] resetting footnote counter

2018-08-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
A simple footnote question this time. I would like to print endnotes at the end of every chapter in my book, and then reset the footnote counter so that in the next chapter the first note will be ‘1’ again. I suppose this should be done by means of \setupfootnotes – but with which parameter?

Re: [NTG-context] general suggestion for ConTeXt documentation (was: footnote and endnote markers...)

2018-08-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 8. Aug 2018, at 00:54, Alan Braslau wrote: > > tex/context/interface/mkiv/i-context.pdf Thank you! I didn’t know I already had this updated version of a document I’ve already been using. But however useful this document already is, it does illustrate some of my problems. For instance, in

Re: [NTG-context] general suggestion for ConTeXt documentation (was: footnote and endnote markers...)

2018-08-07 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 7. Aug 2018, at 17:54, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > On 08/06/2018 11:59 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >> Sorry for all these footnote questions, […] > > Hi Robert, > > […] > > I hope it helps, > > Pablo That is it. I have no idea why – but that is the

[NTG-context] footnote and endnote markers aligned with the left margin of the main text

2018-08-06 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Sorry for all these footnote questions, but here's another one. I want to print the notes without the footnote marker jutting out into the margin, but flushed with the left margin of the main text. Any help will be highly appreciated. Robert

Re: [NTG-context] preventing endnotes from running off the page

2018-08-06 Thread Robert Zydenbos
. It was solved by \setupfootnotes[location=none]. Robert > On 6. Aug 2018, at 17:48, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > On 08/06/2018 12:54 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >> When using endnotes, it seems that all the notes that are collected >> in the text are placed together in a frame

[NTG-context] preventing endnotes from running off the page

2018-08-05 Thread Robert Zydenbos
When using endnotes, it seems that all the notes that are collected in the text are placed together in a frame – but I have so many notes in a chapter that the frame runs off the last page. Is there any way to let the endnotes run on naturally to the next page? Robert

Re: [NTG-context] using both footnotes and endnotes in a document

2018-08-05 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 28. Jul 2018, at 16:48, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > On 07/27/2018 11:47 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >> This works fine with MkIV, but not with MkII (I tried by altering >> \setupnotation to the MkII command \setupfootnotes, but that doesn't >> work). I need MkII

Re: [NTG-context] using both footnotes and endnotes in a document

2018-07-27 Thread Robert Zydenbos
/18 12:01, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >> A puzzle for note specialists: I would like to use both endnotes as well as >> footnotes in one and the same document, for different kinds of notes. >> Ideally, I should be able to write something like: >> - >> Here is a foot

[NTG-context] using both footnotes and endnotes in a document

2018-07-26 Thread Robert Zydenbos
A puzzle for note specialists: I would like to use both endnotes as well as footnotes in one and the same document, for different kinds of notes. Ideally, I should be able to write something like: - Here is a footnote,\footnote{The footnotes comes here.} and now comes an note that should

Re: [NTG-context] future versions

2018-07-25 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 24. Jul 2018, at 20:43, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > […] > That said, a logical question is how about next versions of context. Are > there fundamental features missing? Is more needed? […] At the risk of sounding like a scratched, repeating gramophone record -- support for Indic scripts

Re: [NTG-context] two questions about endnotes

2018-07-23 Thread Robert Zydenbos
That was useful! But now I would like to go another step further: in the following, slightly altered example, I use a footnote and endnotes. I know that with "\setupfootnotes [conversion=characters]" the footnote markers are changed to letters instead of numbers. Is there any way of doing this

[NTG-context] two questions about endnotes

2018-07-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
First question: I am considering using endnotes in my book instead of footnotes. There is a command \endnote, but I do not see the notes appear anywhere in my text. What am I doing wrong? What I tried: \starttext Dit is iets met een endnote.\endnote{Wat een zooi. Werkt het?} \page Het zou

Re: [NTG-context] TeXLive and ConTeXt

2018-06-14 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Perhaps it is useful that I mention that this is a MkIV problem on my iMac with TeXLive (2018 version). Using MkII, also with XeTeX, everything ran right out of the box. For MkIV, I had to run a program to let LuaTeX find all the fonts, and then it worked. Robert

[NTG-context] reading ConTeXt source code

2018-06-01 Thread Robert Zydenbos
I've tried to go through the ConTeXt source to see what the possible parameters of commands, the dependencies, inheritances and the defaults are. Is there any file where I can see the order in which all the .mkii / .mkiv files are read? RZ

Re: [NTG-context] keeping together \subject and a table without a page break

2018-05-03 Thread Robert Zydenbos
YES! Thank you! > On 3. May 2018, at 13:07, Hans Hagen <j.ha...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > On 5/3/2018 12:22 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >> I am looking for a way to keep a subject header and a following table >> together on one page, without a page break. Something

[NTG-context] keeping together \subject and a table without a page break

2018-05-03 Thread Robert Zydenbos
I am looking for a way to keep a subject header and a following table together on one page, without a page break. Something like: ---snippet begins--- \subsubject{Personal suffixes for the present tense} \starttabulate

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Sources (MkII)

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 18. Apr 2018, at 14:04, Hans Hagen <j.ha...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > On 4/18/2018 9:39 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: >>> On 18. Apr 2018, at 09:35, luigi scarso <luigi.sca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Do you really need mkii ? >> I'm

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Sources (MkII)

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Zydenbos
t; as mentioned on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Manuals, but the server does not respond. > On 18. Apr 2018, at 09:39, Robert Zydenbos <cont...@zydenbos.net> wrote: > > >> On 18. Apr 2018, at 09:35, luigi scarso <luigi.sca...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Do you really need mkii ?

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Sources (MkII)

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Zydenbos
> On 18. Apr 2018, at 09:35, luigi scarso wrote: > > Do you really need mkii ? I'm afraid so. I need XeTeX for its support of Indic fonts. And for my purposes MkII is already very, very nice. Robert

[NTG-context] ConTeXt Sources (MkII)

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Zydenbos
A question for the hardcore members. On http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Manuals I read: ConTeXt Sources (MkII) Apart from the manuals, the source files (especially, some of the old ones) contain excellent documentation and examples. If you want a pretty printed pdf of a source file, say

Re: [NTG-context] how to change the colour of the footnote marker

2018-04-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 09.04.2018 09:45, Hans Hagen wrote: On 4/9/2018 12:33 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: […] (I need to use Mk II because I need the functionality of XeTeX.) just curious: what do you mis in mkiv / luatex Support for Indic scripts / fonts. (I think we had a little bit of correspondence

Re: [NTG-context] how to change the colour of the footnote marker

2018-04-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 09.04.2018 00:49, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Mk II does not have setupnotation[footnote] yet, and when I 'translated' it to setupfootnotes (which ordinarily ought to work in Mk II), it unfortunately did not work. (I need to use Mk II because I need the functionality of XeTeX.) 1.

Re: [NTG-context] how to change the colour of the footnote marker

2018-04-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Greetings, Wolfgang, On 08.04.2018 17:46, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: definecolor[kleur][blue] setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=kleur] setupnotedefinition[footnote][color=kleur] setupnote [footnote][rulecolor=kleur] …etc… It works! Thank you for the solution. One thing that puzzles me,

Re: [NTG-context] how to change the colour of the footnote marker

2018-04-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Greetings, Tomáš, On 08.04.2018 17:41, Tomas Hala wrote: Hi Robert, I don't understand if you need solution for MkII, or if you tried something from MkII. For MkIV you can use this: defmycmd#1{startcolor[kleur]#1stopcolor} setupnotation[footnote][numbercommand=mycmd] (But I don't know

[NTG-context] how to change the colour of the footnote marker

2018-04-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Today I wanted to print an entire document not in standard black, but in blue. I added (Mk II) – \setupcolors [state=start] \define\kleur{blue} % so I can change the colour uniformly everywhere through this variable \startcolor [\kleur] \setupnote[footnote][before={\color[\kleur]}]

Re: [NTG-context] font features in XeTeX

2015-07-06 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/6/2015 9:13 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: Dear ConTeXt folk, Is there any simple way to pass font features as a parameter to XeConTeXt? i am thinking of things like what in LaTeX would be (between square brackets) \setromanfont [AutoFakeSlant=0.5, AutoFakeBold=0.5

[NTG-context] font features in XeTeX

2015-07-06 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Dear ConTeXt folk, Is there any simple way to pass font features as a parameter to XeConTeXt? i am thinking of things like what in LaTeX would be (between square brackets) \setromanfont [AutoFakeSlant=0.5, AutoFakeBold=0.5] {Doulos SIL Phon}. There has to be some way to do this, but I seem

[NTG-context] ConTeXt is looking for a non-existent .bbl file (Mac problem?)

2015-02-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Yesterday I tried to create a fresh PDF from a revised text using MkII and XeTeX (I have been using this combination for several months, because I need to use Indic fonts, which are not -- yet? -- supported in MkIV). As a trick I defined an Indic font as a mono font (\tt), so that

[NTG-context] hyperlinks within a PDF

2014-06-15 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Forgive me for what must seem a beginners’ question, but I really could not find the solution in the documentation or the Wiki: How do I create hyperlinks within a PDF to another spot in the text of that same PDF? I had expected I could do something like: Here is a \goto{link}[label:1]. …

Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On May 27, 2014, at 15:37 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables? You can use \placetable for all table environments. Thank you! Now another one: (a) I want to create a table using 'p' cells that does

Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On May 28, 2014, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 5/28/2014 10:46 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: [...] why xetex ... mkii is frozen Sorry, Hans, but I need to use odd fonts for Indian languages that are not (yet?) supported by mkiv. But the combination ConTeXt mkii+XeTeX gives me

Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On May 28, 2014, at 22:10 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 5/28/2014 8:25 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: On May 28, 2014, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 5/28/2014 10:46 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: [...] why xetex ... mkii is frozen Sorry, Hans, but I need to use odd fonts

Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-27 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables? Robert On May 23, 2014, at 5:05 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: Am 23.05.2014 um 04:17 schrieb Robert Zydenbos cont...@zydenbos.net: You have you use the “split” keyword when you want your tables

Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
This is a topic that is of great interest to me. I have been trying to make tables in mkii (because I need XeTeX for my Indic fonts) that span across pages and in which cells are more than one line (so I use the 'p' parameter). I'm enclosing a test file below. Any suggestions? RZ ---start of

[NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada

2013-08-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On my Mac (Mountain Lion) I would like to use ConTeXt with a complex OpenType font named Kedage for the Indian language Kannada, and I thought that I could do this using XeTeX (because LuaTeX seems unable to handle Indic fonts at present). This freely available font (found on Linux systems,

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada

2013-08-08 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Hans, Just now I tried your suggestions: On Aug 8, 2013, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Here I see two possibilities: (1) use the XeTeX parameters FakeSlant and FakeBold, which I have done in LaTeX. But I do not know how this is done in ConTeXt. \starttext

[NTG-context] how to avoid hyphenation

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Greetings all, Is there a simple way in ConTeXt to temporarily switch off hyphenation for a single word? I am thinking of something like the trick which works in (La)TeX: \hbox{thisisaverylongword}. I tried this in ConTeXt (MacTeX TeXLive 2010-64), but without success. Robert