[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-07 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 7/7/2023 1:09 PM, Carlos wrote: \showmakeup displays it astonishingly correctly indeed probably a side effect of the fact that injected stuff resynchronizes the character progression in the pdf file (every char start with explicit coordinates) while without showing it depends on the width

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-07 Thread Carlos
ybe bad metricks then but > > > > > I'm > > > > > not going to look into that as the official TUG lucida opentype fonts > > > > > perform okay. > > > > > > > > > > Hans > > > > > > > > The first sentence

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-06 Thread Carlos
> Hans > > > > > > The first sentence is irrelevant. And a guess. Bad metrics is not the > > > culprit > > > > > > if it were true, the same problem would be under lualatex, correct? > > > > well, who knows what (me)tricks

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-06 Thread Carlos
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 07:37:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 7/5/2023 7:05 PM, Carlos wrote: > > > And I don't want to stir up anything here either, but if the convention of > > using non-official vs official fonts is the new de facto under lmtx, > > I guess my opening

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-06 Thread Carlos
gt; > > perform okay. > > > > > > Hans > > > > The first sentence is irrelevant. And a guess. Bad metrics is not the > > culprit > > > > if it were true, the same problem would be under lualatex, correct? > > well, who knows what (me)tri

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 7/5/2023 7:05 PM, Carlos wrote: And I don't want to stir up anything here either, but if the convention of using non-official vs official fonts is the new de facto under lmtx, I guess my opening question is invalid by all acounts Well, the policy wrt font is quite simple: (1) one can

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 06:15:41PM +0200, Alan Braslau via ntg-context wrote: > On 05/07/23 05/07/23, 17:53, Carlos wrote: > > (sorry for duplicate messages. sending out to mailing list works > > sporadically Sometimes works, other times doesn't). > > As reported, the contextgarden server was

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 06:12:32PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/5/2023 5:53 PM, Carlos wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > On 7/5/2023 3:18 PM, Carlos wrote: > > > > \showmakeup on \TeX\ shows a > > > > > > > > tSP:3.282 > > > > THK:-1.721 > > > > H__E

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Hans Hagen
math) But it's not there. I can't (and won't) check that as I don't have (lua)latex installed nor have those fonts. I also don't see where this \qquad is in your example. As for the \showmakup ... it is used extensively and afaiks there are no issues with it. Hans

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 06:12:32PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/5/2023 5:53 PM, Carlos wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > On 7/5/2023 3:18 PM, Carlos wrote: > > > > \showmakeup on \TeX\ shows a > > > > > > > > tSP:3.282 > > > > THK:-1.721 > > > > H__E

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Alan Braslau via ntg-context
On 05/07/23 05/07/23, 17:53, Carlos wrote: (sorry for duplicate messages. sending out to mailing list works sporadically Sometimes works, other times doesn't). As reported, the contextgarden server was down following a disk controller failure and had taken some time to be reconfigured with

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/5/2023 5:53 PM, Carlos wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/5/2023 3:18 PM, Carlos wrote: \showmakeup on \TeX\ shows a tSP:3.282 THK:-1.721 H__E X HK:-1.291 SP:3.282 no MWE includes so clueless \starttypescript[mylucidaserif]

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
41 MB mkiv lua stats > lua properties: engine: lua 5.4, used memory: 62 MB, ctx: 59 MB, max: 59 MB, symbol mask: utf (τεχ) mkiv lua stats > runtime: 0.508 seconds, 1 processed pages, 1 shipped pages, 1.967 pages/second > > > > > > I assume that SP stands for space

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
as to what does HK means there? > > horizontal kern thanks (sorry for duplicate messages. sending out to mailing list works sporadically Sometimes works, other times doesn't). > > > Anyhow > > > > If I were to have, say, a control _word_ such as \TeX\, the sequen

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Hans Hagen
ave a a \qquad preceding the control sequence e.g., {\qquad \TeX\ significantly} to sort of ameliorate this side-effect. But then again. Spacing is off. e.g., no MWE so a space cam come from anywhwere The separation of any of these four components would have hurt {\qquad\TeX\ significantly}. If I

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
rmation as to what does HK means there? > > > > Anyhow > > > > If I were to have, say, a control _word_ such as \TeX\, the sequence of > > TeX kerning is thrown off. The only remedy would be to have a a \qquad > > preceding the control sequence e.g., {\qquad >

[NTG-context] Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
quence of > TeX kerning is thrown off. The only remedy would be to have a a \qquad > preceding the control sequence e.g., {\qquad > \TeX\ significantly} to sort of ameliorate this side-effect. But then > again. Spacing is off. e.g., > > The separation of any of these four components

[NTG-context] \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

2023-07-05 Thread Carlos
can provide me more information as to what does HK means there? Anyhow If I were to have, say, a control _word_ such as \TeX\, the sequence of TeX kerning is thrown off. The only remedy would be to have a a \qquad preceding the control sequence e.g., {\qquad \TeX\ significantly} to sort