Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-19 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Hi experts, Would someone please provide a basic recipe to correctly install the new alpha release locally. I would like to test the new alpha code but am a bit confused as to what exactly to install and how. 1. on the website, is this indeed

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Alan BRASLAU wrote: Would someone please provide a basic recipe to correctly install the new alpha release locally. I would like to test the new alpha code but am a bit confused as to what exactly to install and how. The alpha has now been merged with the beta and so,

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 20:58, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Alan BRASLAU wrote: Would someone please provide a basic recipe to correctly install the new alpha release locally.  I would like to test the new alpha code but am a bit confused as to what exactly to install and how.

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-19 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Sunday 19 July 2009 20:58:19 Aditya Mahajan wrote: The alpha has now been merged with the beta and so, ... just run first-setup.sh again. Aditya Thanks. I can do that! - ConTeXt ver: 2009.06.14 21:01 MKIV fmt: 2009.7.19 int: english/english - this is luatex, version

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 21:19, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Sunday 19 July 2009 20:58:19 Aditya Mahajan wrote: The alpha has now been merged with the beta and  so, ... just run first-setup.sh again. Aditya Thanks. I can do that! - ConTeXt  ver: 2009.06.14 21:01 MKIV  fmt: 2009.7.19  int:

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 15.07.2009 um 15:57 schrieb Hans Hagen: Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: i'll make a new alpha later today i'll take my chance and hijack this thread then... :) there is a cp error in lpdf-grp.lua. since you're looking into lua code ... there is some new playground (unfinished

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 15.07.2009 um 15:57 schrieb Hans Hagen: Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: i'll make a new alpha later today i'll take my chance and hijack this thread then... :) there is a cp error in lpdf-grp.lua. since you're looking into lua code ... there is some

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi I've put an alpha release on the website Hi Hans, with the alpha and luatex 0.41, I get no hyphenation for Greek. The pattern file is loaded, so it may be a problem with luatex itself. Example: \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium]

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.07.2009 um 19:39 schrieb Hans Hagen: Hi I've put an alpha release on the website Sorry to disturb you again but I have still problems with indices, there is no longer a problem when there is only one after a header but when I put there two or more extra whitespace is inserted.

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi I've put an alpha release on the website Hi Hans, with the alpha and luatex 0.41, I get no hyphenation for Greek. The pattern file is loaded, so it may be a problem with luatex itself. Example:

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: fix: \def\setcurrentlanguage#1#2% sets modes: **id (currentmain) *id (current) {\edef\xaskedlanguage{#1}% otherwise clash with \askedlanguage \ifx\xaskedlanguage\empty \else

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: i'll make a new alpha later today i'll take my chance and hijack this thread then... :) there is a cp error in lpdf-grp.lua. [..] function lpdf.colorspec(model,ca,default) if ca and ca 0 then local cv = colors.value(ca) if cv then if model ==

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: elseif model == 4 then return pdfarray { cv[6],cv[7],cv[8],cv[9] } elseif model == 4 then -- *here* return pdfarray { cv[13] } did you test it with model == 5

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: i'll make a new alpha later today i'll take my chance and hijack this thread then... :) there is a cp error in lpdf-grp.lua. since you're looking into lua code ... there is some new playground (unfinished of course) ... (the true arg is just for

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jul 15, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: It works for me with a slightly older beta but not with alpha (always with and the most recent luatex, 0.42.0) To be precise, with the older version I get: φι-λο-σο-φία which looks like the right hyphenation to me. Yep, this is the

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-15 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: elseif model == 4 then return pdfarray { cv[6],cv[7],cv[8],cv[9] } elseif model == 4 then -- *here* return pdfarray { cv[13] } did you test it with model == 5 no, i simply added a final 'else' here.

[NTG-context] alpha release

2009-07-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi I've put an alpha release on the website - no beta as mkiv needs the trunk version of luatex - a close to complete split in mkii/mkiv - cleaned up mkiv code - cleaned up mkiv backend (some pending issues) - some speedups in mkiv - a few fixes in mkii - updated mkiv typescripts (more to come)

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avoid the cmr-lm conversion? what cmr

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-09 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:51:24 +0100: what cmr does xetex use? a special version? we can of course make a xetex specific typescript to setup the default fonts It's a straight opentype encapsulation of the CMR type1 fonts from CTAN, as far as I can tell. Getting LM in there

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: 1) LM has very ugly caron 2) caron is too high at both capitals and minuscules Isn't that a matter of taste? Think of mixed language usage (not that strange in todays europe), then one wants consistency and this was

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-09 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote: Vit Zyka wrote: Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: I have asked Czech TeX users for their opinion yesterday. Now I want to wait a several days for their collecting. After that I will summarize the discussion results and will sent it here and to

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news: 1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz. Bad news: 1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex they are in mult-con (in the alpha) 2) it preserves long-variant hyphen for \cz case (no difference

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote: Vit Zyka wrote: I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news: 1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz. Bad news: 1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex they are in mult-con (in the alpha) Sorry Hans, I did not distinguish between

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0700: No, but I use old-style numerals as default Ok, the next alpha will offer you: \starttext \usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[modern] test 1234 test

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
\setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] There is some mess with encoding, I think: - \setupencoding[default=il2] \def\criticalchars{\dcaron=\v d=} \starttext \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] \criticalchars \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:30:20 +0100: So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. 'ì' has catcode letter. So a the letter is should enter the font. Where is problem? I think it's with two things: 1) you're not using

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hans Hagen said this at Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:29 +0100: latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:30:20 +0100: So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. 'ì' has catcode letter. So a the letter is should enter the font. Where is problem? I think it's with two things:

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: \setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] There is some mess with encoding, I think: - \setupencoding[default=il2] \def\criticalchars{\dcaron=\v d=} \starttext \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] \criticalchars \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avoid the cmr-lm conversion? hm, we should have a \beginXETEX ... \endXETEX section then but

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote: btw, if you patch enco-il2 by \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -) OK. That is the game. Chars were born. I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin Modern v. CS Fonts). See

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: btw, if you patch enco-il2 by \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -) OK. That is the game. Chars were born. I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin Modern v. CS Fonts). See

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: I prefer the second variant. Can we find its solution? added to the previous mail: german has dedicated umlauts in latin modern, so what you ask for is dedidated (positioned lower) caron's and such; about the small circular thingie, it indeed looks a bit to spiny in latin modern,

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:41:26 +0100: Also, something I just realised (thanks to Vit's example): XeTeX hasn't a clue when it comes to grid typesetting. (Has to do with the difficulty of getting the metrics from the platform fonts, I think.) context does grid typesetting

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-07 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Sorry 4 late response, was out of town... On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:11:40 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there things in cmr that are not in latin modern? No, but I use old-style numerals as default (as it should be in much of the liberal arts and critical scholarship). There are

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Sorry 4 late response, was out of town... On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:11:40 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there things in cmr that are not in latin modern? No, but I use old-style numerals as default (as it should be in much of the liberal arts and critical

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-07 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:45:29 +, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0700: No, but I use old-style numerals as default Out of curiosity, are the old-style numerals from CM (cmmi*, I presume) in any shapes other than roman? I had the

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-07 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:41:30 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are also a few accents that I have to make on the fly with (amateurish) macros, including the shorter bar over lower case i and some others. lm should provide all of this by default. do you have a list of them: name

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-07 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: - david antos' wish, test for this: \unprotected \setuplanguage [cz] [\c!compoundhyphen=-, \c!leftcompoundhyphen=-, \c!rightcompoundhyphen=-] Hallo Hans, I save time to install new release and start to test.

[NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: - some efficiency changes in language parts needed for || extension - latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: fetch the cont-lmt.zip file if needed - david antos' wish, test for this: \unprotected \setuplanguage [cz]

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-03 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:11:29 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: snip - latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: fetch the cont-lmt.zip file if needed Ok, but lm is (as far as I know) still not quite usable for e.g. my journal.

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2005-01-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Willi Egger wrote: Thanks Taco! This makes things clear. also, at runtime you get something: language : patterns nl-texnansi:texnansi-1-2:2 nl-ec:ec-2-2:2 en-d efault:default-3-2:2 de-texnansi:texnansi-4-2:2 de-ec:ec-5-2:2 da-defa ult:default-6-2:2 sv-default:default-7-2:2

[NTG-context] alpha release

2005-01-05 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I uploaded an alpha release. Well, not that alpha, since i run it here as default, but this one has the bib files packahed. Some code moved to the system modules and some bits and pieces were cleaned up. Taco and I will discuss a further clean up / internationalization later. I hope that

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2005-01-05 Thread Willi Egger
Hi, I donwloaded your latest release ... After generating the format files I checked the log files of format-generation. Following up the discussion on another thread (hyphenation peculiarity) I would like to ask how the follwing lines should be interpreted: language : patterns en for en

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2005-01-05 Thread Adam Lindsay
Willi Egger said this at Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:33:08 +0100: language : patterns en for en loaded (n=1) (c:\NEWCON~1\tex\texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/ushyph.tex) language : no hyphenations en for en (n=1) Yeah, huh. I got the same, too. Empirically, it works: \starttext

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2005-01-05 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Adam Lindsay wrote: Willi Egger said this at Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:33:08 +0100: language : patterns en for en loaded (n=1) (c:\NEWCON~1\tex\texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/ushyph.tex) language : no hyphenations en for en (n=1) Yeah, huh. I got the same, too. Empirically, it works: This message

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release

2005-01-05 Thread Willi Egger
Thanks Taco! This makes things clear. Willi Taco Hoekwater wrote: Adam Lindsay wrote: Willi Egger said this at Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:33:08 +0100: language : patterns en for en loaded (n=1) (c:\NEWCON~1\tex\texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/ushyph.tex) language : no hyphenations en for en (n=1)