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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
From what I've read, another criteria
: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
I was recently at a peer conference where an IT director from a financial
institution had a pretty good policy for dealing with non-work social
networking. They recognized that users want to use
Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet Policies
Very interesting idea... Might have to look at that and see if I can find a way
to do something similar. Problem is our customer service reps sometimes have
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*From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:23 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
One advantage of IM over phone conversations is proof of what
It all depends if there is a business or productivity reason for it. We use
IM in some of the departments for meetings, quick conversations, etc. But
if it is used for wasting time, I would not allow it.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:
What
If the CEO is willing to sign off on a policy banning the use of social
networking and IM then, there should be controls in place to enforce the
policy, a policy without the associated controls and punishments (
Administrative, enacted by Management/HR) then the policy isn't worth
the paper its
Why are you as the 'IT Manager' coming up with the companies policy?
Shouldn't this be a business decision?
In any case, technically here we have a NO EXTERNAL IM policy. The reality
is that 'certain' senior management use it so no actual blocking occurs. At
some point we will get the OCS edge
than black-hole the domain names and any server names we can find for
those services/sites.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
Why are you as the 'IT Manager
Up until last month we blocked all the social networking sites. Now our
firm is marketing on them. We are adjusting our policies for this. It will
be on a user-by-user basis though.
Devin
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:
What restrictions, if
Also we don't block anything. We have an AUP and a disclaimer at logon..
We do log all activity and that's explained up front. We hire professionals
and they are supposed to act that way. This is an HR issue so IS just
reports lists of visited websites upon request.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at
: Re: Internet Policies
It all depends if there is a business or productivity reason for it. We
use IM in some of the departments for meetings, quick conversations,
etc. But if it is used for wasting time, I would not allow it.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr
It's not at all strange for the IT Manager to be responsible for
consolidating or initiating the acceptable use policy in an organization.
No matter which party is responsible for putting it together, it cannot be
done in a vacuum. So, either IT does it with input from HR and the business
How did you block them? Do you have an appliance or did you put in some sort
of DNS entries?
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
Up until last month we
mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
IM is faster than email is faster than a meeting.Personally, I
prefer email
?
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*From:* Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:21 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies
Up until last month we blocked all the social networking sites. Now our
firm is marketing on them
, May 04, 2010 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
They can be blocked via DNS, via Firewalls, via Web Filtering technologies.
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:11 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:
How did you block
that) or web filtering appliance.
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*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:20 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies
They can be blocked via DNS, via Firewalls, via Web Filtering
too!
*Murray*
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*From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:42 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies
It all depends if there is a business or productivity reason for it. We
use IM in some
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
I used a fake DNS entry for twitter.com and the others that I found in the
ISA log. I made a new forward lookup zone for each one in our Active Dir
integrated DNS system. I know it wont block sub-domains but it made the
point. It has since been removed. I can use
If you have ISA, you can also make a rule to deny access to the domain
or URL.
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
I used a fake DNS entry
On 4 May 2010 at 12:39, Murray Freeman wrote:
Well, as long as we're discussing IM, we don't allow it currently. But, I
have trouble understanding how IM is better than either email or a meeting,
or using a telephone to accomplish the very same thing as an IM. Can someone
explain that to me.
IssuesSubject: Re: Internet Policies
I used a "fake DNS" entry for twitter.com and the others that I found in the ISA log. I made a new forward lookup zone for each one in our Active Dir integrated DNS system. I know it wont block sub-domains but it made the point. It has since been removed.
and the telephone. Here, an email is just as fast as
an IM.
Murray
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Agreed
When you are building the policy put everything you can in it to deal with
as many issues as possible. Issues like who can and can not install
software, what kind of monitoring is allowed on the clients or in the
network traffic, get HR involved early on and make sure there is some real
teeth in
owned.
Z
Edward Ziots
CISSP,MCSA,MCP+I,Security +,Network +,CCA
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
401-639-3505
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From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
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*From:* Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:12 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Agreed. As a department, we all use IM. I have coworkers in other
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet Policies
We use web marshal. http://www.8e6security.com/webmarshal.asp
Works pretty well and is pretty cheap. You can add antivirus and anit spyware
scanning modules as well.
There is also a fairly robust reporting engine for it.
I had it enabled
for
forgiveness after you get owned.
Z
Edward Ziots
CISSP,MCSA,MCP+I,Security +,Network +,CCA
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
401-639-3505
ezi...@lifespan.org
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
IM isn't just chat. Especially if you have OCS installed.
There are tons of things that can be dispensed with a quick 2-3 line IM
+,Network +,CCA
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
401-639-3505
ezi...@lifespan.org
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
When you are building the policy put everything you can
,Security +,Network +,CCA
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
401-639-3505
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From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Internet Policies
When you are building the policy put everything you
Subject: Re: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
One advantage of IM over phone conversations is proof of what is said in the
conversation. Some times it is quite useful when you need to CYA.
Jon
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote
Are you suggesting that IM is treated differently than email under the laws of
evidence?
Murray
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits
...@capitalcityfruit.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:15 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Internet Policies
We use web marshal. http://www.8e6security.com/webmarshal.asp
Works pretty well and is pretty cheap.You can add antivirus and anit spyware scanning modules as well.
There is also
, May 04, 2010 1:46 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies
IM isn't just chat. Especially if you have OCS installed.
There are tons of things that can be dispensed with a quick 2-3 line IM
session that would require waiting and delays for other things. With IM you
System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Jon,
I don’t think that can constitute as Primary/Best evidence in a court of
law, especially when electronic communications is usually considered
“Heresay”, and therefore needs to be corroborated
than email under the
laws of evidence?
*Murray *
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*From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:48 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Jon,
I don’t
*Subject:* RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Jon,
I don’t think that can constitute as Primary/Best evidence in a court of
law, especially when electronic communications is usually considered
“Heresay”, and therefore needs to be corroborated with other sources
or similar.
The issue has created a nice little niche market.
*From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:23 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
*ahem*
If for instance one had saved
I was recently at a peer conference where an IT director from a financial
institution had a pretty good policy for dealing with non-work social
networking. They recognized that users want to use the internet for
personal reasons. That those personal reasons were often acceptible in
moderation.
...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Jon,
I don’t think that can constitute as Primary/Best evidence in a court of
law, especially when electronic communications is usually considered
, 2010 17:09
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Internet Policies -- Benefits of IM and Social Media
Built in OCS archiving server capabilities should fill the gap for a
while. Reporting sucks but there is a powershell cmdlet and now a report
server template to pull data.
On Tue
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