RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Rick
Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. That said,

RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Rick
Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. That said,

Re:[nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Brendan Fogarty
Hey all, Just for the record, Steve Walter was not referring to Digest mode but rather Vacation mode. You receive NO emails but can still post. I have been on this option for several months. I check on http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01, perhaps at the handicap of a few minutes of info delay,

Re:[nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Brendan Fogarty
Hey all, Just for the record, Steve Walter was not referring to Digest mode but rather Vacation mode. You receive NO emails but can still post. I have been on this option for several months. I check on http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01, perhaps at the handicap of a few minutes of info delay,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Phil Jeffrey
Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have. In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity crisis:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Phil Jeffrey
Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have. In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity crisis:

[nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Steve Walter
Earlier this year, I had about had it with my e-mail box being flooded with unnecessary posts - some of which amount to "Dear diary, today I saw.". I looked at the NYS-Birds instructions, with the intent of unsubscribing - at least for that period of the year when some feel the need to let you

[nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

2016-11-21 Thread Steve Walter
Earlier this year, I had about had it with my e-mail box being flooded with unnecessary posts - some of which amount to "Dear diary, today I saw.". I looked at the NYS-Birds instructions, with the intent of unsubscribing - at least for that period of the year when some feel the need to let you

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA Addendum

2016-11-21 Thread Joseph Brin
 A SNOWY OWL was reported in Cayuga County on Rt. 104A in the Town of Sterling on 11/16. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA Addendum

2016-11-21 Thread Joseph Brin
 A SNOWY OWL was reported in Cayuga County on Rt. 104A in the Town of Sterling on 11/16. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2016-11-21 Thread Joseph Brin
*  New York*  Syracuse - November 21, 2016 *  NYSY  11. 21.16 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):November 14, 2016 - November 21, 2016to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands Complex

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2016-11-21 Thread Joseph Brin
*  New York*  Syracuse - November 21, 2016 *  NYSY  11. 21.16 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):November 14, 2016 - November 21, 2016to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands Complex

[nysbirds-l] Manhattan, NYC 11/21, & 11/19

2016-11-21 Thread Thomas Fiore
Quick links to information pages, including for the NYSbirds list- serv, may be found at: http://www.northeastbirding.com/ Reading all of that info may answer (some of) questions or comments being placed here today. (& we all have a fast way of dealing with any posts we may not find of

[nysbirds-l] Manhattan, NYC 11/21, & 11/19

2016-11-21 Thread Thomas Fiore
Quick links to information pages, including for the NYSbirds list- serv, may be found at: http://www.northeastbirding.com/ Reading all of that info may answer (some of) questions or comments being placed here today. (& we all have a fast way of dealing with any posts we may not find of

[nysbirds-l] NYSBIRDS-L; WAS Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu was originally created for reports of rarities and discussions of birds that would be of statewide interest (hence the “s” in the name after NY, New York State birds). Upstate birders have always used it that way. I would post about Cave

[nysbirds-l] NYSBIRDS-L; WAS Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu was originally created for reports of rarities and discussions of birds that would be of statewide interest (hence the “s” in the name after NY, New York State birds). Upstate birders have always used it that way. I would post about Cave

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Donna Schulman
For the sake of the record (since this is an archived listserv...I think), it was Groucho Marx who said, "I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member," or some variation. There's uncertainty about the exact circumstances and wording of the quote, since Groucho himself

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Donna Schulman
For the sake of the record (since this is an archived listserv...I think), it was Groucho Marx who said, "I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member," or some variation. There's uncertainty about the exact circumstances and wording of the quote, since Groucho himself

RE: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Larry Trachtenberg
If I may. I do not use and anticipate never using any of Facebook (or its myriad bird groups), Twitter, bird text alert systems, ebirds...@yahoogroups.com; #birdcp on Twitter, the “various WhatsAp” bird sites referenced, or any of the seemingly endless

RE: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Larry Trachtenberg
If I may. I do not use and anticipate never using any of Facebook (or its myriad bird groups), Twitter, bird text alert systems, ebirds...@yahoogroups.com; #birdcp on Twitter, the “various WhatsAp” bird sites referenced, or any of the seemingly endless

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread David Klauber
Paul, You raise a good point. There is one site which historically has been THE site for reporting rare birds state wide, and that is the Cornell listserve NYS birds. While this is not only a rare bird alert, as its scope is broader, it still is the best place to get the word out on a rare

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread David Klauber
Paul, You raise a good point. There is one site which historically has been THE site for reporting rare birds state wide, and that is the Cornell listserve NYS birds. While this is not only a rare bird alert, as its scope is broader, it still is the best place to get the word out on a rare

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Andrew Block
I agree with the thought that there should be one place to report rarities so everyone can see the reports.  The NYSBirds list is the place where that has been done for many years.  I am one of those who doesn't use other sites or modern technology to find out about rarities.  I only use the

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Andrew Block
I agree with the thought that there should be one place to report rarities so everyone can see the reports.  The NYSBirds list is the place where that has been done for many years.  I am one of those who doesn't use other sites or modern technology to find out about rarities.  I only use the

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Paul R Sweet
As I think I'm being called out here perhaps let's talk about some recommendations on how rarities are reported? Andrew you could take the lead here? One problem is that there are two “rare bird alerts” for NY that are often filled with run-of-the-mill daily lists and non rarity sightings.

Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher

2016-11-21 Thread Paul R Sweet
As I think I'm being called out here perhaps let's talk about some recommendations on how rarities are reported? Andrew you could take the lead here? One problem is that there are two “rare bird alerts” for NY that are often filled with run-of-the-mill daily lists and non rarity sightings.

[nysbirds-l] North Shore Audubon Society meeting - this Tuesday, November 22, 2016. John Connors presents "Chimney Swifts and People"

2016-11-21 Thread Nancy Tognan
The North Shore Audubon Society will hold its monthly program on Tuesday, November 22, 2016, from 7pm to 9pm, at the Manhasset Public Library, 30 Onderdonk Avenue, Manhasset NY 11030. All are invited, free of charge. Public transportation users: This location is a half-mile walk from the

[nysbirds-l] North Shore Audubon Society meeting - this Tuesday, November 22, 2016. John Connors presents "Chimney Swifts and People"

2016-11-21 Thread Nancy Tognan
The North Shore Audubon Society will hold its monthly program on Tuesday, November 22, 2016, from 7pm to 9pm, at the Manhasset Public Library, 30 Onderdonk Avenue, Manhasset NY 11030. All are invited, free of charge. Public transportation users: This location is a half-mile walk from the

[nysbirds-l] Reminder: BBC Evening Presentation Tomorrow Night

2016-11-21 Thread Dennis Hrehowsik
*Tuesday, November 22nd, 7:00 P.M.* *Better Birding, Tips, Tools and Concepts for the Field* *Presenter: George L. Armistead* *Location: Brooklyn Public Library Central Branch at Grand Army Plaza* George L. Armistead will present identification

[nysbirds-l] Reminder: BBC Evening Presentation Tomorrow Night

2016-11-21 Thread Dennis Hrehowsik
*Tuesday, November 22nd, 7:00 P.M.* *Better Birding, Tips, Tools and Concepts for the Field* *Presenter: George L. Armistead* *Location: Brooklyn Public Library Central Branch at Grand Army Plaza* George L. Armistead will present identification