[nysbirds-l] Article + Photos on CT Fork-tailed Flycatcher

2013-12-02 Thread Mardi Dickinson
Birders et al, Thought many of you would be interested in this article + photos on Hadlyme, CT Fork-tailed Flycatcher; A Wrong Way Corrigan? http://kymry.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/hadlyme-ct-fork-tailed-flycatcher-a-wrong-way-corrigan/ Cheers, Mardi Dickinson Norwalk, CT

[nysbirds-l] [JERSEYBI] Snowy Owl Spotted Perched On Bermuda Roof

2013-12-02 Thread Ardith Bondi
This was posted on JerseyBirds. Shows how far the Snowy Owls are moving. We're not the only ones seeing them. Ardith Bondi NYC http://bernews.com/2013/11/snowy-owl-spotted-on-bermuda-roof/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread matt klein
Get a room, you two. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Lake Thomas R Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:30:46 To: ; Cc: ; Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell "The real problem is knowing when you are too

RE: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Lake, Thomas R
"The real problem is knowing when you are too close to a particular bird." An interesting take on this. When we begin to think that we have wildlife figured out to the point of truly sensing their tolerance to us (reading their thoughts?) then we have evolved into a clairvoyant

[nysbirds-l] The HUDSON - - - always rewarding!

2013-12-02 Thread Ken McDermott
  Hi Folks, Today I had a 2:30pm doctors appointment in New Windsor, Orange County, which brought me into the vicinity of the City of Newburgh.  Because I was early I decided to check out a few spots before getting to the doctors' office.   At the small parking area on the north side of TORCHE'S

[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach West End- Shrike, Snowy Owls

2013-12-02 Thread JGIUNTA746
Dec. 2, 2013 After some searching I found the N. Shrike at 3:30 in the Fisherman's Parking lot just past the Coast Guard station. After talking to people in the west end of Jones Beach I believe that there are at least 6 Snowy Owls in the Jones Beach/Point Lookout area. Some owls were

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2013-12-02 Thread Joseph Brin
RBA   *  New York *  Syracuse * December 02, 2013 *  NYSY  12. 02. 13   Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert Dates(s): November 25, 2013 - December 02, 2013 to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge and Montezuma Wetlands

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Ken Harper
It seems to me that some of you have this need to continue droning on and on about the same old photographer vs birder complaints that you have little or no chance of changing especially if you continue to start off you conversations with such an adversary position. At some point you need to

[nysbirds-l] ADMIN: OWLS and Ethical Birding

2013-12-02 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
I am sending out this message as a reminder about ethical birding, especially as it pertains to owls during this winter season. Although the content of this message is on owls, this message may apply to almost any unusual species. In the past, birders have witnessed other birders and bird

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Gregory Fisher
Can't agree with Annie more.  I have never seen specs as how many feet away is the line.  What might be too close for one is not for another.  For those out there that are really bent out of shape get together and define what the standard should be.  Is it 75 feet, 100 feet, 150 feet?  Does it

[nysbirds-l] Owls, Dogs, Birders, Photographers, etc.

2013-12-02 Thread ARIE GILBERT
The number of Snowy Owls present, seemingly ~everywhere~ is great if you are a birder or photographer, but I shudder to think of the implications for that species if so many have ventured south out of their normal range. Since there are both birders and photographers subscribing to this list;

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Mike Wasilco
Is it any better when a birder flushes a bird for something even more ephemeral as a slightly better look. Lets all be thankful that birding has evolved from the days of Audubon, when it was done through the barrel of a shotgun rather than the lenses of cameras or binos. Michael R. Wasilco

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread John Laver
IMO, flushing any wildlife for something as ephemeral and trivial as a photograph is certainly tasteless and at times harmful harassment. I mean, does the world really and truly need the 154,456,306th "amazing close up shot of a Snowy Owl"? Really? Most of this photography falls in the trophy

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread tgrainger
Getting closer is exactly the answer for photographers!! Even with the longest lens from Nikon or Canon closer is better. The real problem is knowing when you are too close to a particular bird. I have seen both photographers and birders worry a bird enough so that it flew. Frankly, more

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread John Cancalosi
As a lowly photographer ,(not the one in question), I am grateful for yet another reminder that I, and those like me, are inextricably wallowing in a Stygian morass of moral terpitude, while those of a higher calling look down in righteuos judgement upon our nefarious activities, with both of

[nysbirds-l] Shrike at Jones

2013-12-02 Thread Robert Bate
Being seen now 100 yds east of west end 2 at Jones Beach. Red-necked Grebe at CG marina Rob Bate -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

RE:[nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread McIntyre, Annie (LI)
Folks let's not do this AGAIN. Photogs vs birders... we've all seen offenders on both sides. It's a pleasure reading this list to hear about the birds that are around, but not so much the squabbles. Better done in private conversation. Good birding! Annie McIntyre From:

RE:[nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread McIntyre, Annie (LI)
Folks let's not do this AGAIN. Photogs vs birders... we've all seen offenders on both sides. It's a pleasure reading this list to hear about the birds that are around, but not so much the squabbles. Better done in private conversation. Good birding! Annie McIntyre From:

[nysbirds-l] Shrike at Jones

2013-12-02 Thread Robert Bate
Being seen now 100 yds east of west end 2 at Jones Beach. Red-necked Grebe at CG marina Rob Bate -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread John Cancalosi
As a lowly photographer ,(not the one in question), I am grateful for yet another reminder that I, and those like me, are inextricably wallowing in a Stygian morass of moral terpitude, while those of a higher calling look down in righteuos judgement upon our nefarious activities, with both of

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread tgrainger
Getting closer is exactly the answer for photographers!! Even with the longest lens from Nikon or Canon closer is better. The real problem is knowing when you are too close to a particular bird. I have seen both photographers and birders worry a bird enough so that it flew. Frankly, more

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread John Laver
IMO, flushing any wildlife for something as ephemeral and trivial as a photograph is certainly tasteless and at times harmful harassment. I mean, does the world really and truly need the 154,456,306th amazing close up shot of a Snowy Owl? Really? Most of this photography falls in the trophy

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Mike Wasilco
Is it any better when a birder flushes a bird for something even more ephemeral as a slightly better look. Lets all be thankful that birding has evolved from the days of Audubon, when it was done through the barrel of a shotgun rather than the lenses of cameras or binos. Michael R. Wasilco

[nysbirds-l] Owls, Dogs, Birders, Photographers, etc.

2013-12-02 Thread ARIE GILBERT
The number of Snowy Owls present, seemingly ~everywhere~ is great if you are a birder or photographer, but I shudder to think of the implications for that species if so many have ventured south out of their normal range. Since there are both birders and photographers subscribing to this list;

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Gregory Fisher
Can't agree with Annie more. I have never seen specs as how many feet away is the line. What might be too close for one is not for another. For those out there that are really bent out of shape get together and define what the standard should be. Is it 75 feet, 100 feet, 150 feet? Does it vary by

[nysbirds-l] ADMIN: OWLS and Ethical Birding

2013-12-02 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
I am sending out this message as a reminder about ethical birding, especially as it pertains to owls during this winter season. Although the content of this message is on owls, this message may apply to almost any unusual species. In the past, birders have witnessed other birders and bird

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Ken Harper
It seems to me that some of you have this need to continue droning on and on about the same old photographer vs birder complaints that you have little or no chance of changing especially if you continue to start off you conversations with such an adversary position. At some point you need to

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2013-12-02 Thread Joseph Brin
RBA   *  New York *  Syracuse * December 02, 2013 *  NYSY  12. 02. 13   Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert Dates(s): November 25, 2013 - December 02, 2013 to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge and Montezuma Wetlands

[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach West End- Shrike, Snowy Owls

2013-12-02 Thread JGIUNTA746
Dec. 2, 2013 After some searching I found the N. Shrike at 3:30 in the Fisherman's Parking lot just past the Coast Guard station. After talking to people in the west end of Jones Beach I believe that there are at least 6 Snowy Owls in the Jones Beach/Point Lookout area. Some owls were

[nysbirds-l] The HUDSON - - - always rewarding!

2013-12-02 Thread Ken McDermott
Hi Folks,Today I had a 2:30pm doctors appointment in New Windsor, Orange County,which brought me into the vicinity of the City of Newburgh. Because I was early I decided to check out a few spots before getting to the doctors' office. At the smallparking area on the north side of TORCHE'S closed

RE: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread Lake, Thomas R
The real problem is knowing when you are too close to a particular bird. An interesting take on this. When we begin to think that we have wildlife figured out to the point of truly sensing their tolerance to us (reading their thoughts?) then we have evolved into a clairvoyant (self-righteous?)

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why did you yell at him? Bird must have left becuase of yell

2013-12-02 Thread matt klein
Get a room, you two. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Lake Thomas R l...@sunydutchess.edu Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:30:46 To: tgrain...@comcast.net; jjcpurav...@gmail.com Cc: nysbird...@list.cornell.edu; annie.mcint...@parks.ny.gov Subject: RE:

[nysbirds-l] [JERSEYBI] Snowy Owl Spotted Perched On Bermuda Roof

2013-12-02 Thread Ardith Bondi
This was posted on JerseyBirds. Shows how far the Snowy Owls are moving. We're not the only ones seeing them. Ardith Bondi NYC http://bernews.com/2013/11/snowy-owl-spotted-on-bermuda-roof/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME

[nysbirds-l] Article + Photos on CT Fork-tailed Flycatcher

2013-12-02 Thread Mardi Dickinson
Birders et al, Thought many of you would be interested in this article + photos on Hadlyme, CT Fork-tailed Flycatcher; A Wrong Way Corrigan? http://kymry.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/hadlyme-ct-fork-tailed-flycatcher-a-wrong-way-corrigan/ Cheers, Mardi Dickinson Norwalk, CT