Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Jörg Schmidt
When we have something to announce you can expect to read it in official places. It won't be something we'll be hiding in strange corners of the web. That means if an employee identifies proposals on XING does not correspond to the opinion of the IBM? Not officially? I think that's a strange

Re: crash with debug build of r1403340

2012-10-30 Thread Herbert Duerr
Hi Regina, On 29.10.2012 22:26, Regina Henschel wrote: I get an immediately crash, when I try to switch to presentation mode (=F5) in Impress. It is a debug build of r1403340 on WinXP. But I'm not sure, whether there is something wrong in my build and I need to make a new, clean build. It would

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/27/12 3:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... it would probably allow to skip the release process and

Re: [APEU2012] Schedule on 11/5

2012-10-30 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/26/12 7:25 PM, imacat wrote: Dear all, I will arrive Hotel Sinsheim at noon, 11/5. You may find me in the afternoon, 11/5, if you want to discuss with me about forum, wiki or anything. We do not have a scheduled Hackathon, but we may still work on something. See you there. ^_*'

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-30 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Andrea, Hi all, 2012/10/28 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/orientation/http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ This is an excellent resource. But we

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: When we have something to announce you can expect to read it in official places. It won't be something we'll be hiding in strange corners of the web. That means if an employee identifies proposals on XING does not

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2012 10:19, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct 27, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 26/10/2012 Ian Lynch wrote: I arranged one

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 03 - see comments inline On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2012 10:19, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/27/12 10:51 PM, jan iversen wrote: Based on the comments I have received, I have updated the document. The major changes are: - removed l10n web page tools - no auto-commit in any tools - proposed changes to pootle server (based on request from andrea, to use/change existing tools)

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
I just double checked: the pointer is: Localization AOOhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO, which clearly stated (the very first lines of the document) This document is based on and extents Localization_for_developershttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers. The

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread RGB ES
2012/10/30 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 10/27/12 3:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ...

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
+1, such a download page additional untested language packs would allow us to make a translation official immediately with a limited responsibility, just like the snapshots. jan On 30 October 2012 14:02, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/30 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Jörg Schmidt
If everything is absolutely clear to you then I don't know what you want clarifications on. But if you do have a question then just ask it, here or via private email if that is your preference. Hello Rob, Ok, thank you, I will send you a private email. Greetings, Jörg

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/30/12 1:33 PM, jan iversen wrote: I just double checked: the pointer is: Localization AOOhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO, which clearly stated (the very first lines of the document) This document is based on and extents

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
If my page needs updating, feel free to do so, I actually copied all the scripts things from the other page. jan. On 30 October 2012 14:28, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/30/12 1:33 PM, jan iversen wrote: I just double checked: the pointer is: Localization

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi, On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:40:53PM +0800, Li Feng Wang wrote: Hi,all, I already run BVT on OO snapshot r1400866 Result: Passed with known issue. Details: http://people.apache.org/~liuzhe/testdashboard/#bvt Detail in 350m1(Build:9611)-2012-10-23 and 350m1(Build:9611)-2012-10-22,

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/30/12 2:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:03 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/30 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 10/27/12 3:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Dave

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
Question: Is there a rule in the apache way defining who can do QA, or is it totally up to the single teams ? Do we use the review statistic in pootle to anything, it seems actually quite clever. Jan. On 30 October 2012 16:17, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/30/12 2:46 PM,

Re: Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 - Dec 13th Beijing

2012-10-30 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Peter, Please see my comments below: 2012/10/29 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org Hi Simon, On 10/26/2012 9:48 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Don Peter, I think it is a very good opportunity to promote Apache OpenOffice in China marketing through Apache Asia Roadshow 2012. And from another

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/30/12 2:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:03 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/30 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 10/27/12 3:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:55

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/30/12 2:45 PM, jan iversen wrote: If my page needs updating, feel free to do so, I actually copied all the scripts things from the other page. I see it now, I must have been blind earlier, sorry for the confusion Juergen jan. On 30 October 2012 14:28, Jürgen Schmidt

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
Hi Speaking for myself and the other 2 in the teamwe do the translation to get AOO available in denmark (again). Right now another openSource product is using the fact that we cannot release our versions in danish, to their benefit. I do not want to compete (which is why I do not write the

Re: [APEU2012] Schedule on 11/5

2012-10-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys/gals; From: Jürgen Schmidt  On 10/26/12 7:25 PM, imacat wrote: Dear all,      I will arrive Hotel Sinsheim at noon, 11/5.  You may find me in the afternoon, 11/5, if you want to discuss with me about forum, wiki or anything.  We do not have a

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread imacat
On 2012/10/29 23:26, Rob Weir said: Then there is the secondary question of network effect and value of the network. The more AOO users there are they greater the value of skills in AOO extension development, of AOO training and certification skills, and of migration and deployment services,

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread imacat
It's a long list of discussion to read. There seems to be a lot to discuss in our BoF session. So, what is the help we need for our BoF session now? -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News:

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 30.10.12 17:41, schrieb imacat: On 2012/10/29 23:26, Rob Weir said: Then there is the secondary question of network effect and value of the network. The more AOO users there are they greater the value of skills in AOO extension development, of AOO training and certification skills, and of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/26/12, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On Friday 26 Oct 2012 11:04:46 Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far into the future. The branding needs

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/30/12, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: 5 days is about up and we have no -1so I've started a page for creating of the proposed RFP on the confluence wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Brand+Contest+RFP Discussion on the marketing list? I think

[DISCUSS] IDE, comment translation, debugging, documentation and other development issues

2012-10-30 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi AOO is by far the biggest and most complex code I have ever hacked on, and I have many questions... What IDE do you guys use to develop AOO? Eclipse CDT runs out of memory indexing the code :-(. Many comments are in German. Are translations to English welcome or should we leave them as is?

Re: [DISCUSS] IDE, comment translation, debugging, documentation and other development issues

2012-10-30 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 30.10.12 18:44, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Hi AOO is by far the biggest and most complex code I have ever hacked on, and I have many questions... What IDE do you guys use to develop AOO? Eclipse CDT runs out of memory indexing the code :-(. Many comments are in German. Are translations

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2012/10/29 23:26, Rob Weir said: Then there is the secondary question of network effect and value of the network. The more AOO users there are they greater the value of skills in AOO extension development, of AOO

[Call-for-Review][Basic] Bug 76852: incorrect conversions Single to String and Double to String

2012-10-30 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi all Can you please help review my patch (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=79839action=diff) to bug 76852 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=76852)? A detailed analysis of the problem and explanation of the solution is given in

Re: crash with debug build of r1403340

2012-10-30 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, thanks for looking. Herbert Duerr schrieb: Hi Regina, On 29.10.2012 22:26, Regina Henschel wrote: I get an immediately crash, when I try to switch to presentation mode (=F5) in Impress. It is a debug build of r1403340 on WinXP. But I'm not sure, whether there is something wrong in my

Re: OpenOffice Developer Room (devroom) at FOSDEM

2012-10-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: There is another opportunity not to miss: we can propose a (technical) talk about Apache OpenOffice as a Main Track Talk, see the same page. Deadline 31 October. It would be good if Juergen, or another developer, took the occasion to show something about

Re: volunteering

2012-10-30 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Prabha Chidambaran prabha.chidamba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Apache folks: My name is Prabha Chidambaran and I am an aspiring technical writer living in New Jersey. I have a journalism background, good with computer applications and would love to help you all

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: 5 days is about up and we have no -1so I've started a page for creating of the proposed RFP on the confluence wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Brand+Contest+RFP +1, maybe put draft in a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Nóirín Plunkett
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far into the future. Perhaps sound out some sponsors for a prize The Fedora Design Bounties have done really well using this model, where the

Re: [DISCUSS] IDE, comment translation, debugging, documentation and other development issues

2012-10-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Damjan, On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 07:44:06PM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi AOO is by far the biggest and most complex code I have ever hacked on, and I have many questions... true, but you managed to get your first patch out of it! Congratulations :) What IDE do you guys use to

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-30 Thread Andrew Rist
On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Looking at old threads, I'm a bit confused about the outcome of this one: http://markmail.org/message/ldigtivvyy2su62u Currently some of the .com domains don't even show up on the DNS radar, and on the others remaining registered by Oracle. Was it the

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Peter Junge
I will not be in person in Sinsheim, hence we'll need one, better two moderators for that BoF session. The initial tasks seems quite simple. It's just saying hello to the attendees, making a short statement what the session is about, then kicking off the discussion with throwing in some key

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Peter Junge
On 10/29/2012 10:16 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: About Peter's point #2...I suppose this is getting kind of abstract, but what is the payoff from expanding AOO's community? Typically marketing is performed to increase sales, which earns money; AOO has no sales, so what should the intended benefit

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread imacat
On 2012/10/31 08:35, Peter Junge said: I will not be in person in Sinsheim, hence we'll need one, better two moderators for that BoF session. The initial tasks seems quite simple. It's just saying hello to the attendees, making a short statement what the session is about, then kicking off the

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread imacat
On 2012/10/31 01:59, Rob Weir said: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2012/10/29 23:26, Rob Weir said: Then there is the secondary question of network effect and value of the network. The more AOO users there are they greater the value of skills in

Re: Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 - Dec 13th Beijing

2012-10-30 Thread Peter Junge
Hi Simon, On 10/30/2012 11:25 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Peter, Please see my comments below: 2012/10/29 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org Hi Simon, On 10/26/2012 9:48 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Don Peter, I think it is a very good opportunity to promote Apache OpenOffice in China

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Wednesday, October 31, 2012, imacat wrote: On 2012/10/31 01:59, Rob Weir said: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.twjavascript:; wrote: On 2012/10/29 23:26, Rob Weir said: Then there is the secondary question of network effect and value of the network.

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Peter Junge
On 10/31/2012 11:11 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: [...] Great thread. So many interesting topics to explore at a BoF. Here are some thoughts related to broadening our skills set and transforming the project from open source development to open source product design and development. In support of