Re: OODL: todo?

2000-04-10 Thread DeRobertis
At 9:19 PM -0500 on 4/9/00, Sean Harper wrote: Lots of gnu projects have todo lists, there doesn't seem to be one for Freecard. http://Freecard.sourceforge.net/, then click on the 'task manager' icon.

Re: Threading (was Re: OODL: Subject-field of posts)

2000-04-10 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:49 PM -0700 on 4/10/00, Alain Farmer wrote: I am hip to the importance of not changing the subject headings so that they thread correctly, but take a look at our mail in the last week. It's impossible to know what is what without reading them. As long as you put a was: part in the header,

Re: Dynamic Syntax Extension (was Re: OODL: a fundamentalidea)

2000-04-10 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:47 PM -0700 on 4/10/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Anthony: Because I happen to have a good way of rewriting the syntax without killing performance. Alain: Oh! I thought that your main objections to the 'do' command were security-related. My impression now is that speed is the overriding

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-09 Thread DeRobertis
Come to think of it, it would be easy to to leave out commands that are implemented in FreeScript with that dynamic syntax extension thing :)

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-09 Thread DeRobertis
At 11:37 PM +0200 on 4/9/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: But they follow your guidelines, correct? And why don't you just put them in use? I do. But openStack is never sent when a stack is start-used. We can add a message for that. I didn't mean to give it cryptic syntax, however, I was thinking

OODL: Very Underfeatured NuParser in CVS

2000-04-09 Thread DeRobertis
A _very_ underfeatured NuParser is now (or will be in a few minutes) in CVS. The fronend's grammar support should be done; its integrated debugger and tester are not even started (nor will they be until the backend is done). The backend only supports 'normal' nodes (i.e., strings). It does not

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-08 Thread DeRobertis
At 4:54 PM +0200 on 4/8/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Anthony, scope is again a problem. Even if you define that command in an openStack handler, where the scope is almost clear, this would then probably modify the behaviour of all other stacks. Yes. That's the idea. It would not be for casual

Re: OODL: Re: Screen resolution and size

2000-04-08 Thread DeRobertis
At 11:21 AM -0700 on 4/8/00, Alain Farmer wrote: [And actually, as soon as I get a gcc for it, I plan to have an Interpreter running on my TI-89] Alain: A programmable calculator? ;-) What's so odd about that? It already is programmable, in TI-BASIC and M68K assembly -- why not FreeTalk?

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-08 Thread DeRobertis
At 8:29 PM +0200 on 4/8/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: I'm talking about interruptions, not low level interrupts. I.e. command-period being pressed, a runtime error causing a script to exit prematurely etc. So am I. That can't happen when a command add is in progress. You shouldn't be sending

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-08 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:54 PM -0700 on 4/8/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: The Mac is always the renegade, eh! Ironically, their 'different' way of doing things is a hindrance to you. Perhaps we should consider developing FreeCard for Unix/Linux, THEN port it to Mac. It would make our development efforts more

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-06 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:03 PM +0200 on 4/5/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: remap "look up %1 in %2 (using method %3)" to "lookUp" Ak -- no. It's not English-like enough. Of course, a command like the above "remap" could be used to give more comprehensible syntax to plug-in commands. I guess that's what you wanted to

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-06 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:06 PM +0200 on 4/5/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: I have no problem with adding this to the Interpreter. A cinch, really. Anthony, just a suggestion: Use the same code for user properties as is used for variables, and make sure that when support for arrays is added they work in user

Re: OODL: a fondamental idea

2000-04-04 Thread DeRobertis
At 1:52 PM +1000 on 4/4/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: Hmm, while I haven't fully thought this through, with *my* parser you should be able to get it to parse new syntax into bytecode (which has to be already supported by the interpreter) without a recompile. :P Ahh, competition already!

Re: OODL: a fundamental idea

2000-04-04 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:21 PM -0700 on 4/4/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: For the record, I would like to have as much of FreeCard in stack-form as possible. Stack-based tool(s) to create Xternals and/or a stack-based FreeCard syntax editor (e.g. augment FC's parser with new vocabulary or grammar). Uli: I

Re: OODL: a fondamental idea

2000-04-03 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:49 PM +0200 on 3/31/00, Jean-Jacques Wagner wrote: 2) Improve the stack used as plug-in (start using) it would be good to have the possibility to force the parth hierarchy through a list of stack, which would be defined in the stack dialog window. This make programming more easy,

Re: OODL: a fondamental idea

2000-04-03 Thread DeRobertis
At 11:36 AM -0700 on 4/3/00, Alain Farmer wrote: and/or a stack-based FreeCard syntax editor (e.g. augment FC's parser with new vocabulary or grammar). With a recompile, this is what NuParser will do. Someday, you'll be able to do it without a recompile. The non-stack-based FC-core should/will

OODL: Slashdot | Interviews | Deb Richardson Answers Open Source Doc Questions

2000-04-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/27/0717244 Notes on documentation. We'll need it, unfortunately ;-) I think that the first item -- documentation that adjusts to the user's experience -- is a great idea, and is something that could be pulled off in FreeCard. It'd also be a significant

OODL: FreeCard Website

2000-04-02 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://freecard.sourceforge.net/ If we're lucky, the script managed to convert the entire thing to PHP files without any human intervention without any mistakes. The former is sure; the latter is not. Please test. [Now we just need to see about getting it into CVS :)]

Re: OODL: todo?

2000-04-02 Thread DeRobertis
At 9:21 PM -0500 on 4/2/00, Sean Harper wrote: Ummm.. I would like to contribute, but where do I download the code from? and what is most important for me to help with? CVS. I'm working on getting all the code into CVS. cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if I remember correctly.

Plugging `wget' (was Re: OODL: Re: FreeCard Website)

2000-04-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 6:18 PM -0800 on 3/31/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Adrian: I am currently in the process of mirroring as much of the FreeCard website as I can to freecard.sourceforge.net ... I hope you have heard of `wget --mirror` Alain: I hope you started with the downloads and other non-web-site stuff. I

Re: OODL: Re: FreeCard Website

2000-04-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 11:15 PM +1000 on 4/1/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: I have one more request. Do you have an automated way to add the line: ?require("/footer.require")? to each html file of the web site, just before the /BODY tag? Use a sed/mv combination on SourceForge's Unix login.

Re: OODL: SourceForge Project Enrollment

2000-04-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:36 PM +1000 on 4/2/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: I can't use IE to log in, as I recall you use Netscape though right? I'll find someone to contact about this. I use Netscape, and it's fine.

Re: OODL: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-31 Thread DeRobertis
At 9:20 PM -0500 on 3/29/00, Mark Rauterkus wrote: Hi All, We are talking about LINKING. I'm confused. And, I'm sorta going to lean to derobert's views. I'm confused to. We're treading new territory, and no one knows. AFAIK, no open-source license has ever had a day in court; relativly few

Re: OODL: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-31 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:09 PM -0800 on 3/29/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: Good point, Anthony. When the patches start coming in (e.g. are added to the FC version), the licencing of these patches will be FC-GPL. Can you then add these patches to your own version(s) and continue to licence these other versions

Re: OODL: SourceForge Project Enrollment

2000-03-31 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:50 PM +1000 on 3/31/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: You also need to suggest names for the general discussion list (the replacement of this one). The names will be of the form freecard-name@lists.sourceforge.net freecard-discussion is currently the best name I can think of. Remember

Re: OODL: Broken HC CGIs

2000-03-31 Thread DeRobertis
You'll be happy to know that it works.

OODL: Mattel Ruling Confuses Hackers

2000-03-29 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,35258,00.html Some of the info about licences in this wired article is scary... Should we go along with the FSF and require code to be signed over?

Re: OODL: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-28 Thread DeRobertis
At 8:11 AM +1000 on 3/21/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: Actually, by licencing something under the GPL it means that we have to continue to licence it under the GPL - no other licence is compatible with the GPL. The GPL does not take away any of the author's rights -- tha author may licence

Re: OODL: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-28 Thread DeRobertis
At 7:37 PM -0500 on 3/20/00, Mark Rauterkus wrote: Case in point with FC: Say the FC community releases FC to the public under the GPL. And, say the FC community releases FC to MetaCard under a different license. I was under the impression we were only licencing the Home stack to MetaCard

Re: OODL: Any Perl Guru here that can help with HeaderDoc?

2000-03-28 Thread DeRobertis
At 1:18 AM +0100 on 3/25/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Hi, I recently downloaded HeaderDoc from http://publicsource.apple.com and it looks like it'd be perfect for creating a base for our programmers' documentation. Trouble is, it was written for a Unix version of Perl (Darwin's probably) and it

Re: OODL: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-28 Thread DeRobertis
At 1:02 AM +0100 on 3/21/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: "linking" is a technical term here and refers to machine-language source code being combined in a way that one routine uses another. It does not apply to putting two files in a folder and having one file display the others' contents (very

Re: OODL: Re: FreeCard Website problem

2000-03-28 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:59 PM +0200 on 3/27/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Alain, it's simple: Netscape does as it's supposed to and uses the MIME types to identify files, why IE goes by the suffixes. The bug in Netscape fixes the I think you mean

Re: OODL: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-20 Thread DeRobertis
At 6:50 PM -0500 on 3/18/00, Mark Rauterkus wrote: And we might run into further problems in other fronts as we do the human interface and want it to be part of the suite offered by MetaCard. The co-mingling of GPL and PROPRIETARY licenses is something that needs full ADVANCE awareness, and it

Re: OODL: Re: More license talk -- progressing

2000-03-20 Thread DeRobertis
They've missed a very important thing: FreeCard does not act like a compiler. It isn't a compiler. It's like the Perl interpreter, exceppt that the standalone is a combination of the interpreter, lots of support stuff, and the script in one file.

Re: OODL: SourceForge Project Enrollment

2000-03-18 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:20 AM +0100 on 3/14/00, toniK wrote: You've never ran an X server. Who says you can only run graphics on a local machine? Certainly not X. Well, if that worked, that'd be cool. It works -- I've done it. They're even X servers for Macs Windows.

Re: OODL: Win Programmers etc.

2000-03-18 Thread DeRobertis
At 9:43 AM +1000 on 3/17/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: Java is so 1900's. :P Nope, this year C is the language to know for my course. Speaking of which, that assignments due next week... Sigh. I'm also doing Software Engineering - and for the record, we're doing it entirely wrong in this

Re: OODL: SourceForge Project Enrollment

2000-03-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:36 PM +0100 on 3/11/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: shrug. Run CVS on Linux/ppc. Though I have a Mac CVS client that I think works on backup somewhere -- I'll look. Anthony, find me a Linux that runs on a Macintosh Performa 5300 and I'll gladly do that. What's the Performa 5300 equivelent to?

Re: OODL: Re: [opencard-digest V1 #266]

2000-03-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:29 PM +0100 on 3/11/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Render larger, shrink on copy. Avoids pixelization. Anthony, at small sizes it doesn't. Then you'd just have a irregular black bar if you're unlucky. Playing with text that small by any method can easily give you a mess. For small text, we

Re: OODL: More modularity

2000-03-10 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:36 PM +0100 on 3/6/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: I think dumping random data to random blocks and reading it out would give it a better testing. Basicly, perform random actions to the file. Include some erroneous ones (tryign to read non-existant blocks, for example). Anthony, well, I'll

Re: OODL: SourceForge Project Enrollment

2000-03-10 Thread DeRobertis
At 7:17 PM -0800 on 3/8/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: The debate rages on! Are CGI programs that don't do HTTP headers by definition 'broken'? Despite the fact that they have been in use for several years already without any complaints from my thousands of 'captive' clients? Yes. The HTTP/1.0

OODL: Slashdot | Articles | SourceForge Announces Compile Farm

2000-03-08 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/07/1123211mode=nested This is just cool. Now we can compile our code on systems we don't even have. Should be great for testing compatability.

Re: OODL: Alain, FC.cgi is BROKEN.

2000-03-06 Thread DeRobertis
I just did a test from outside of Erol's, where I do get the whole page. Your CGI is not sending a single header. It is categorically, without question, broken. That it works _anywhere_ stuns me. See: ftp://NIS.NSF.NET/internet/documents/rfc/rfc2068.txt

Re: OODL: FreeCard License on the web

2000-03-06 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:23 PM -0800 on 3/5/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: The newest (local non-CGI) version will be available to everyone who has an FTP account with FreeCard. We will establish some kind of check-in and check-out process to insure that only one person makes changes to it at any given time.

Re: OODL: Re: [opencard-digest V1 #266]

2000-03-06 Thread DeRobertis
At 1:50 PM +0100 on 3/5/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: BTW: I noticed something neat -- X on Unix allows reals for the number of points in a font. Hmmm... Anthony, just reminds me that I have code to draw text in a box. That is, scaled to exactly fit into the box, stretched and skewed as

Re: OODL: Version numbering madness

2000-03-06 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:01 PM +0100 on 3/5/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Sometime we're going to have to consider a version numbering system. I'm into doing something interesting for Interpreter; perhaps convergence on pi (this would mean that 1 is a newer version than 10, but both are older versions than 3). That

OODL: Alain, FC.cgi is BROKEN.

2000-03-05 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
FC.cgi is unquestionably broken. I have tested this by dumping every packet sent between my computer and your server. The outgoing packets are correct. The incomming ones are masacred. The only place for the massacre to occur is at the router-level webcache my ISP is running, and your site is

OODL: cpp considered harmful

2000-03-05 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://advogato.org/article/39.html Discussion on calling C routines from non-C languages. We certainly want to make it easy to interface to FreeCard in any language. I'm sure Uli will become more and more assertive of this, too, as he keeps trying to write C++ XThings. Actually, with the way

OODL: Version numbering madness

2000-03-05 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://advogato.org/article/40.html Sometime we're going to have to consider a version numbering system. I'm into doing something interesting for Interpreter; perhaps convergence on pi (this would mean that 1 is a newer version than 10, but both are older versions than 3). That would be a cruel

OODL: Internationalization guidelines (request for comments)

2000-03-05 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
http://advogato.org/article/42.html Article on internationalization. I imagine we have plenty of expertise on this list on that subject already, but another perspective will not hurt.* Also, if covers some of the software availible to help. *this sentence should be taken out and shot

Re: OODL: FreeCard License on the web

2000-03-04 Thread DeRobertis
At 4:04 PM +0100 on 3/3/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Hi, I have just uploaded three HTML files with details on our license: http://ufp.uqam.ca/fclicens.htm 404...

OODL: Slashdot | Interviews | Jakob Nielsen Answers Usability Questions

2000-03-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Subject says it all. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/03/096223mode=nested

Re: OODL: Reaction to Eric's GUI work

2000-03-04 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:05 PM +0100 on 3/2/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: put "hello" after standardOutput You can't use put with standard output because standard output is NBOT seekable, and explaining to users why they can only put to the end of standard out is a mess. Write, OTOH, only allows append. Besides,

Re: OODL: More modularity

2000-03-02 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:38 PM +0100 on 3/1/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Anthony, I heave an idea that should help debugging the FreeCard code base and to do some prototyping: We could compile the code into XCMDs/XFCNs which the scripters on this list could then use. This would make it extremely easy for any

Re: OODL: Little reminder for myself

2000-03-02 Thread DeRobertis
- Alain on the web site - Eric on the editor interface (aka FreeUI) - Adrian on the voting CGI - Anthony on NuInterpreter - Me on the file format (aka XBF) I wrote the bug tracking CGI, which also includes voting, passwords, etc. No one seemed interested, however, so I didn't quite finish

Re: OODL: WebSite-Generator update

2000-03-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 8:15 PM -0800 on 2/29/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Good evening fellow freecarders. Here is the most recent incarnation of my web site generator, accessible via our home page: http://ufp.uqam.ca/index.html Ummm... I don't see any pages, just file not found errors. Are you updating it right now?

Re: OODL: Reaction to Eric's GUI work

2000-03-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:01 PM +0100 on 2/27/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: well, good to know that. Since the file format will be cross-platform anyway, I don't think this'll be a problem. As to stdin and stdout -- MetaCard has stdin and stdout (as well as long forms standardInput and standardOutput in preparation),

Re: OODL: Re: [opencard-digest V1 #266]

2000-03-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:42 PM -0800 on 2/28/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Eric: I'm going to have to continue my UI paper after hearing this. Drat. Was hoping to avoid it... Alain: Does your paper deal mainly with aesthetics, or is it focused on the knowledge-engineering aspects of GUI design? (ergonomie cognitive).

Re: OODL: Re: [opencard-digest V1 #266]

2000-03-01 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:06 AM -0700 on 2/28/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to have to continue my UI paper after hearing this. Drat. Was hoping to avoid it... --PLEASE tell me what you want then - you would be far more likely to get it because I cannot read minds. That's what my UI paper is. It's rather

A Proposal on Fonts and Sizes (was Re: OODL: Re:[opencard-digest V1 #265])

2000-02-25 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:32 PM -0700 on 2/25/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than that I think the MC interface is just fine. Ok, some more menus would be nice, neater palettes, and again these are just cosmetic changes. I'm going to have to continue my UI paper after hearing this. Drat. Was hoping to avoid

Re: OODL: FreeCard Licence exception -- Richard's draft

2000-02-25 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:49 PM +0100 on 2/25/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Also, if we write code and put it under this licence now and in three months decide to use a different one, we would have to write all code anew if the licenses are not compatible. Once code is under a licence we cannot revoke it if we are

Re: OODL: Reaction to Eric's GUI work

2000-02-25 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:33 PM +0100 on 2/25/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Of course. But it working without X is very, very, very important for CGI's on Unix. Anthony, only NuInterpreter itself would be useful in that context. The whole stack/UI stuff wouldn't be needed for that. Would it? I'm guessing you'd want

Re: OODL: Reaction to Eric's GUI work

2000-02-24 Thread DeRobertis
At 7:40 PM +0100 on 2/23/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Anthony, this would be possible, but someone would have to port FreeCard to a console API for that, since the buttons etc. would be C GUI API calls after all. Of course. But it working without X is very, very, very important for CGI's on

Re: OODL: Time for a 20-ton GPL LART

2000-02-24 Thread DeRobertis
snip Alain, there has been a slight miscommunication. Somehow the sides have gotten mixed up. I want the luser who thinks he can undo the GPL by a stupid notice to get the 20-ton LART, not the other guy! I'll use names next time to prevent any confusion.

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-24 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:14 AM +1000 on 2/25/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: I tried WindowMaker, but it segfaulted. Havn't gotten around to making it work -- I'll try again sometime. I hear it looks good, too.

Re: OODL: FreeCard Licence exception -- Richard's draft

2000-02-24 Thread DeRobertis
At 4:31 PM -0500 on 2/24/00, Mark Rauterkus wrote: But what does this mean in the 'real world?' By this I mean that the GPL is sorta sacred and NOT to be altered. We are making a change to it, right? Is this type of thing done eleswhere? We're not changing the GPL -- we're just making an

Re: Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-23 Thread DeRobertis
At 9:00 PM -0500 on 2/23/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/22/2000 1:27:08 AM, you wrote: Linux is getting more and more user friendly. Ever seen a Linux box with Enlightenment? Could you elucidate? A linux box with X and the Enlightenment window manager.

Re: OODL: Open source hosting - 3rd installment

2000-02-23 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:52 PM -0800 on 2/23/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: What does this move entail for you, Anthony. In what way is it a PITA? We only have the mere beginnings of a web site, a half-dozen FTP accounts, and our mail is handled by MetaCard. Besides, I thought that the CVS, bugTracking and such

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-23 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:16 PM +1000 on 2/24/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: It's ugly and difficult to use? I never liked Enlightenment, but yes, Linux is getting much more user friendly. Gnome Enlightenment looks pretty nice. What do you use?

OODL: Time for a 20-ton GPL LART

2000-02-23 Thread DeRobertis
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/02/23/2014205mode=nested Guy thinks he cna make people who download his binaries give up their right to source under the GPL. Hopefully, he gets a nice 20-ton LART in court. If he wins on the other hand Very Bad Thing.

OODL: More evidence against client-side scripts...

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
Forwarded from e RISKS digest: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:28:42 -0500 From: "Jeremy Epstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: YAIESB: Yet Another Internet Explorer Security Bug Under certain circumstances, a web server can force an IE client to serve up the contents of a file on a local hard drive.

OODL: Security Analysis Tool (Another RISKS gem)

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
An interesting piece of software -- should help us: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:35:00 -0800 From: John Viega [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Announcement of the ITS4 software security scanner [This is a nifty piece of work, and presents one more argument for open-source software -- although I

Re: OODL: Resume 'suspend' and 'resume' messages?

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
At 6:49 PM +1000 on 2/22/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: could you possibly elaborate what SIGTSTP does? Tells the process to pause. Makes it stop eating CPU time. Adrian: Actually, it tells it that it's not going to get any more CPU time for a while - the application doesn't have a choice in the

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
At 6:48 PM +1000 on 2/22/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: Adrian: My apologies to you Anthony, I hadn't received any of your messages for some strange reason. (I just got a whole heap of them then). Enjoy :) I'd love to know why it doesn't work for Netscape for you - it works for me. Well, I've got

Re: OODL: Re: Open source hosting - Second installment

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
At 11:41 AM -0500 on 2/22/00, Mark Rauterkus wrote: Yes, we should move our core efforts to SourceForge or some other outlet like that. But, I see no need to shop around. Huh? Moving it around -- especially after people start to know about the site, bookmark to it, etc. -- would be a major

Re: OODL: Thanks for uploading!

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
At 11:31 AM -0700 on 2/22/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that we will eventually need to convert these to hyperCard? No -- we'll eventually need to convert them the FreeCard, though. I presume the freekard gui will be done as stackware and not in C++. Is that presumption correct?

Re: OODL: security considerations

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
Uli, I plan to add at least the following to the Interpreter o function disabling o maximum execution times o levels of trust and possibly: o taint checking And more, s I think of them. I plan to use Interpreter for other work as well as FC. It will be fairly

Re: OODL: WebSite update - Netscape problems ?

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:46 PM +0100 on 2/22/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Alain: This does seem strange to me, because: (1) I am not employing any change recently made to JavaScript. (2) Not long ago, several months in fact, I was using Netscape 4.0.x with an earlier version of my system. (3) Over 4000 students (and a

Re: Re: Re: OODL: Licence to use for code

2000-02-22 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:49 PM +0100 on 2/22/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Adding in antivirus stuff might be really useful. Sounds like a 1.1 feature to add a way of locking the home stack to prevent infections. Uli, it'll be in the first Interpreter I release. Basicly, the Interpreter will be able to disable

OODL: WebSite.sit.hqx converted to iCab webarchive

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
the website (or at least everything linked directly/indirectly from index.html) as an iCab webarchive: http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/WebSite.icab.hqx

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 8:19 AM +1000 on 2/21/00, Adrian Sutton wrote: instead of having to browse that interface from hell? Alain: Boy, do I feel like a piece of shit right now !!! Adrian: Well, I still don't see what's so bad about it. Adrian, you must of missed it: It does not work for my on *any* browser I

Re: OODL: WebSite update - bugs?

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 10:51 AM -0800 on 2/20/00, Alain Farmer wrote: --- DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's under the HyperCard section, this is all I get with NN 4.08: 03)"Advantages of using the Translator interface HyperCard Translator, in-depth Alain: I really don't get it. In my

Re: OODL: Web system - Web site

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:14 PM -0800 on 2/20/00, Alain Farmer wrote: BTW: I'll consider making my own. Definitely will make my own NuParser Interpreter pages. Alain: Here is the URL of the contents page of the portion of my web site concerning NuParser: http://ufp.uqam.ca/opencard/WebSite/Page5200.html QUite a

OODL: Resume 'suspend' and 'resume' messages?

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
Looking at the FC page, idea #1... Suspend and resume used to be used before launching a new program without MultiFinder on System 6 and prior. However, it still has a perfectly good meaning on some systems (e.g., Unices), for when the process is sent SIGTSTP

OODL: Could someone test this website?

2000-02-21 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
I have problems with: http://giguere.dsc.uqam.ca/freecard/index.html It's part of a project I am working on. I can't seem to get it to work with any browser I have (all 6 of them!), and am wondering if the common factor is ISP. Anyway, here are the problems I experiance: Javascript

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:46 PM -0800 on 2/21/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: On a societal-level, I will hazard the prediction that an enormous backlash against the Web is brewing in the near future. Instead of moving forward with CSS, XML and client-side scripting (JS or VB), we are heading in the opposite

Re: OODL: Re:

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 10:54 PM +0100 on 2/20/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: KUTGW. Pardon? Keep up the good work ^^ ^ ^^

Re: OODL: Resume 'suspend' and 'resume' messages?

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:34 PM +0100 on 2/21/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: could you possibly elaborate what SIGTSTP does? Tells the process to pause. Makes it stop eating CPU time.

Re: Re: OODL: Licence to use for code

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:15 AM +0100 on 2/22/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: they will be. After all, our porting criteria also include that HyperCard virii like MerryXmas etc. will run. Of course, we could add some protection schemes that prevent the home stack from being modified etc. I'm inclined to put access

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:43 PM +0100 on 2/21/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: As to Netscape 4.08, that looks really like a problem. Same with Communicator. I've asked other people on my ISP to check. A bcc should come across the list.

Re: OODL: security considerations

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:30 PM -0800 on 2/21/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: Home for sure, but it is not the only sensitive component. All scripts should be protectable. Make sure, among other things, that nefarious programs like The Devil's Workshop are effectively barred access. Possible? There is no way to make

Re: OODL: Elektra - to who is interested

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:17 PM -0500 on 2/21/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/21/2000 9:19:20 AM, you wrote: It's in ftp://upf.uqam.ca/Downloads/Uli/Elektra.sit. I get server not found. He made a typo -- s/upf/ufp/

OODL: Re: Appetizer...

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 9:08 AM -0700 on 2/21/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Enclosed are four stacks/palettes (and just some of my creations...) http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/Downloads/Eric/%21propert.mc http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/Downloads/Eric/%21vission.mc http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/Downloads/Eric/easel.mc

Re: OODL: How's that for a code licence?

2000-02-21 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:09 AM +0100 on 2/22/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Hi, here's a first licence proposal: GPL (or for some parts maybe LGPL) plus the following exception: - SNIP! - As a special exception, you may distribute integrated combinations of FreeCard in executable form with the your files

Re: OODL: Licence to use for code

2000-02-20 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:28 AM +0100 on 2/19/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Maybe we could require that if you make any changes and use the special exception, you must submit the changes back to the FreeCard group? Did you ask RMS about this? Anthony, If they have to submit changes, they won't be able to go on

Re: OODL: Licence to use for code - Re:Uli

2000-02-20 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:40 AM +0100 on 2/19/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: pop up a small window whenever the program quits that says "Created using FreeCard 1.0, available *at no charge* at http://ufp.uqam.ca/freecard" or something like that). I'll see what Richard says. Read the gnu website -- especially the part

Re: OODL: Alain-web-site and NuParser-speed

2000-02-20 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:25 PM -0800 on 2/18/00, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: Are you still experiencing problems with our web site? I visited it a few minutes ago. Everything works like a charm. Yes. Anthony: I got to the Interpreter pages, then clicked the two links there and got this in NS's JS log: ... Page is

Re: OODL: Re:

2000-02-20 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:20 AM +0100 on 2/19/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote: Oh yeh... that's right. Die R/B tree, die! :) Anthony, you wouldn't guess who I met at the funeral ... Multimap! KUTGW.

Re: OODL: Licence to use for code

2000-02-20 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:38 PM -0500 on 2/18/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/18/2000 12:36:50 PM, you wrote: As a special exception, integrated combinations of FreeCard in executable form with your stacks to be displayed using FreeCard is permitted under your choice of license, provided

Re: OODL: WebSite update

2000-02-20 Thread DeRobertis
If it's under the HyperCard section, this is all I get with NN 4.08: 03)"Advantages of using the Translator interface HyperCard Translator, in-depth

Re: OODL: Re: [opencard-digest V1 #253]

2000-02-18 Thread DeRobertis
I don't think we have one. Especially since "international" usually implies that people from all over the world meet in this one same place, right? Yes, international usually means that. But they have sub-regionals and regionals first, and then the winners go on to the international one

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