At 4:49 PM -0700 on 5/2/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
DeRobertis : Collaboration shall be defined as handling the mailing
lists, web site, and other informational and discussion resources.
Alain : Everything above except for the mailing lists, for a while
anyway.
Anthony: Hmmm... implied
At 4:26 PM +1000 on 5/27/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
Adrian: It also reminds me that a while back someone said they had the old
archives (from before the list moved to metacard.com) I notice they haven't
been added to the new archive yet. What's happening with them?
Sitting on a hard disk.
At 7:03 PM -0700 on 5/7/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Kurt Kaufman : perhaps a naive question: if one part is written in C,
and another in C++, does it make things more difficult?
Anthony: It can. But not too much.
Kurt Kaufman : ...Or do people sometimes nowadays refer to "C" and
infer "C++"?
At 11:02 AM +1000 on 5/15/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
Anthony: Improper output from the CGI. Possible screwed up headers.
These functions turn out to return under 1K of text though
whereas the others are all over 1K. Could this be a problem?
Anthony: I doubt it. Ever used telnet? (BTW: Since
At 5:48 AM -0700 on 5/8/99, Rob Cozens wrote:
Anthony: A change has been made in that the two people receiving the most
votes in
any given category are elected. The person with the most votes becomes
President; the other, Vice President.
Rob: In that case, I suggest we consider "weighted
At 11:40 AM -0600 on 5/27/99, Scott Raney wrote:
I understand the problem (I think it's called "greedy matching"), but
since all other regex patterns work the same way, I'm puzzled as to
why you think it's a problem in MetaCard but not in
Perl/Python/Tcl/etc? How do you get short matches in any
At 8:06 PM -0400 on 5/7/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MP0werd: I like the idea, however I hope opencard itself is not over 2
megabytes
Anthony: I don't know how to blow 2 megs on an app. Ask Uli. Maybe he
does.
(hopefully should fit in a disk). I could get a CDR burner and sell
At 4:34 PM -0700 on 5/13/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : What do you think of the idea ?
Anthony: I'd not want to be the one responsible for the security of that
system. Or, for that matter, the reliability.
Anthony: A more sensible approach would be a plain 'ol mirror.
Anthony: I
At 2:00 PM +1000 on 5/8/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
Programming:
Anthony DeRobertis
M. Uli Kusterer(sp?)
Michael Fair
Collaboration:
Alain Farmer
Michael Fair
User Interface:
Anthony DeRobertis
At 9:42 PM -0400 on 5/6/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/6/99 7:11:10 PM, you wrote:
Anthony: Why not from selling the product? Open Source does not mean we
can't sell it; ask the Debian and RedHat folks sometime.
Anthony: Of course, anyone can sell it.
One difference,
At 11:39 AM +1000 on 5/24/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
DeRobertis: Well, I guess you'll have to come up with a new password now.
Adrian: It was only a randomly generated one anyway.
DeRobertis: But _proving_ mathematicians wrong is so much fun!
Adrian: Unless you happen to be the mathematician
At 11:22 AM +1000 on 5/24/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
DeRobertis: Whatever happened to the items referenced in the subject field of
this message as given above?
Adrian: You mean what are we doing about the MetaCard licenses? We have to
decide on a licensing system for openCard before we can
At 2:12 AM +0200 on 5/28/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Or consider this line: "New Archive Pathname archName" Who the @#@**!
taught you to capitalize? Those Of Us Who Write Proper English Don't
Capitalize Like This.
Anthony,
my bet is that the author of the AppleScript
Whatever happened to the items referenced in the subject field of this
message as given above?
:
Anthony DeRobertis
M. Uli Kusterer(sp?)
Michael Fair
Collaboration:
Alain Farmer
Michael Fair
Adrian Sutton
User Interface:
Anthony DeRobertis
M. Uli
:
Anthony DeRobertis
M. Uli Kusterer (who wants VP, only)
Michael Fair
Collaboration:
Alain Farmer
Michael Fair
Adrian Sutton
User Interface:
Anthony DeRobertis
At 10:02 AM +1000 on 5/29/99, Julian blackhirst wrote:
Has anyone put any thought into custom objects or anything like that?
That could come from plugins or maybe even scripts. But we'd worry about
that later.
At 4:54 PM +1000 on 5/29/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
Dylan, I forgot to mention that
you should get in touch with M. Uli Kusterer (affectionately known as Uli).
His email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] He knows what's happening with
the programming division and can explain things to you better.
Well, Uli
I've got all the messages transfered over. It's also archiving any of the
new messages.
http://www.mail-archive.com/opencard@metacard.com/
Note that I've also got it set up to archive xtalk ufp in the same way,
as soon as any traffic happens on them! Addresses for those lists will be:
At 11:58 PM +1000 on 5/29/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:
I can send you my collection of UFP messages, but I've deleted most of the
internet headers. They're currently in a HC stack and are complete up until
just after Christmas. It also includes the discussions from the HC list
before the UFP list
At 9:39 AM -0700 on 5/29/99, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With MetaCard providing about 95% of what you're looking for,
and the cost of developing an alternative likely to exceed MC's license
fee, why not just use MetaCard?
MetaCard provides little of what we want; it is not free software. We want
an
At 1:38 PM +1000 on 5/31/99, Dylan Just wrote:
Dylan and I both live on residence so he can take a walk up the stairs and
look at it running on my mac pretty much anytime.
Um, don't you live on 3rd? And I live on 4th? So wouldn't I go /down/ the
stairs
Shhh... you haven't heard about the
Hmmm.. I guess we'd need some type of run-time include feature. A script
could (for it's duration), use commands from a library.
It would be sort of like a CFM lib.
At 12:37 PM +1100 on 6/2/99, spierings wrote:
Adrian: Hopefully soon we'll be able to get that vote for the OpenCard
leaders underway and have a web site to report the results on! :)
grumble Leaders, who need them? Just letting you know that I will be
exercising my democratic right to not
At 3:17 AM +1000 on 6/3/99, Dylan Just wrote:
Will a click event on an unusually shaped object be generated for the
rectangular bounding box of the shape or specifically within the bounds of
the shape?
I see the latter to be hard to implement.
Point-in-polygon testing is fairly easy. All you
Hmmm... if you haven't already (you do read Slashdot, right?), visit
http://www.linuxchix.org/techwriters/.
Also, this was posted on slashdot:
MetaLab: Homes for OpenSource Projects (Score:2, Informative)
by pjones on Wed June 09, 23:25 GMT (#5)
(User Info)
At 7:31 PM +0200 on 6/3/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Will a click event on an unusually shaped object be generated for the
rectangular bounding box of the shape or specifically within the bounds of
the shape?
I see the latter to be hard to implement.
Dylan,
it's not that hard. Initial
At 9:25 PM +0200 on 6/12/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I suggest that Dylan and Anthony should certainly have a peek at it.
Anythony proposed wx, so I guess he already tried it,
I looked into it a little. Haven't actually given it a real try, yet.
At 1:50 AM +0200 on 6/14/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Why not the ISO's classes?
Anthony,
I don't know them, so it's a omission due to my uninformed state. But
since C is basically an ANSI standard, it makes sense to use the
accompanying stuff. Except if we can make sure it's available on all
At 11:11 PM +0200 on 6/25/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I have posted the latest snapshot on my AOL space...
http://members.aol.com/yennie/OCSnapshot_6.24.99
Brian,
what is in this snapshot? Interpreter, XBlockFile, wxOpenCard or something
you did?
Interpreter. Hmmm... probably should name the
templateclass T, int ALIGN=1
void HandleAppenderT, ALIGN::AddRealSize(Size amount) {
if (realSize == 0)
size = realSize = GetHandleSize(hand);
if (size + amount realSize) {
realSize *= 2;
SetHandleSize(hand,realSize);
At 1:21 PM +0200 on 6/28/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
What about Functions. ?
I did send it, right? It was part of the archive! Or do you mean the
template problem, which has been fixed?
I didn't find it anywhere in there. There's "Functions.cp" and
"Functions.h", but no ".".
Uli... stop
At 9:04 AM +0200 on 6/29/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Uli... stop trying to make me laugh. You know that Functions. means what
Functions.* does to Unix to MPW, right? matches any character except for
newline.
Anthony,
oh. No, I didn't. Matter of fact, I thought it was supposed to be some
docs
At 3:30 PM -0400 on 6/29/99, DeRobertis wrote:
Actually, there are a fair number of new comments in their now... along
with me nearly having completed OpenTalk functions and handlers. Yes, the
next snapshot has those :)
OK. They've been in there for a while. Next come if/then/else (nearly done
I'm in the write-your-own-framework department. I personally think that
most of the time the design decisions that go into other people's
frameworks are...well...not what I need. I seldom, for example, see a
framework that attempts to be small and fast.
At 1:56 PM +0200 on 6/30/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Be more specific or I'll bite you g
Ahh... we find out Uli's True Nature(TM). Go back to slithering on the
ground writing FS code!
At 2:14 PM -0700 on 6/30/99, Geoff Canyon wrote:
re: x-platform frameworks, have you considered REALbasic
www.realbasic.com, MetaCard www.metacard.com, iShell
www.tribeworks.com, or Director www.macromedia.com.
Depending on your needs, LiveStage www.totallyhip.com might meet
them--it produces
At 2:09 PM -0700 on 6/30/99, Geoff Canyon wrote:
Is there a web site that details what the development status of OpenCard
is?
Not yet. But I'm putting one up. I've had it waiting for ASIP from Alain.
I'll do it with perl, HTML, C -- not an ounce of AppleScript -- and I'll
be proud of it.
Check
At 7:41 PM -0700 on 7/2/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : You're absolutely right. We do have a central site for posting
our latest code. It is accessible via FTP, ...
Alain, any chance of getting read/write access instead of read-only acess
for password-authenticated users? I logged in with the
At 11:22 AM +1000 on 7/3/99, Julian blackhirst wrote:
It must be a completly free to do what you want licence.
You should be able to:
* Recompile the code with it tweaked to your preference for personal use,
* Recompile the code with improvments and relese it as freeware
* Add improvments and
At 4:14 PM -0700 on 7/2/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : AppleScript is not HyperTalk, but it is considerably easier
than Perl and C, that's for sure.
Well... to each his own. Depends on the task, in my opinion. I'd never, for
example, do a short AppleEvents thing in C or Perl, nor would I ever
OpenCard Standing Committee on Interpreter (OC-CI)
New features:
Support for certain if's
Full function/command support
Major slowdown! (Will fix...)
Only tested on MacOS/PPC.
Note: You must bisonize Tokenizer.y yourself. That's what all of the end of
line problems
At 2:04 PM +0200 on 7/7/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I think we might want to limit redistribution of OC, though. We should
prevent people from distributing modified versions, and from selling the
source code. They may distribute (at no charge!) the original OC sources
and ship along sort of a
This one is so short I won't bother to summerize it:
Copyright © 1998 The Open Group
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
without
SUMMARY:
may distribute exact copies
may charge for support, for warranty, or for distribution (except
for distribution over the Internet)
May change, provided:
you document the changes
must licence under this licence
At 10:15 AM +1000 on 7/8/99, Paul Sutton wrote:
Alain : I disagree. What you write below actually confirms rather than
refutes my argument that the licencing issue is potentially explosive.
Later, it will be. But presently, there are two people who need to agree.
Uli and myself.
Adrian: This
NOTE: Interpreter is presently under this. May change.
SUMMARY:
may distribute source, must keep all copyright notices intact. Must
include copy of LGPL
may charge fee for transfer, may charge fee for support
may modify, provided that (all of the below):
At 4:00 PM -0700 on 7/7/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : Itís a little known clause (but nonetheless standard) that
allows an author to prohibit the exploitation of his work by people or
organizations that would adversely affect his reputation. Such nasties,
for example, as Aparteid, Nukes, etc.
SUMMARY: Fairly short, just read it. Note that it bans commercial use --
even shareware -- without a seperate agreement. I don't thin kwe want this,
included only for completeness.
SYPP stands for "Share Your
I'm going to post a bunch of different OpenSource licences. We can choose
one, mix them together, or write our own. I'll do my best to provide
summaries of each.
Note that I'm not a lawyer, though.
At 7:14 PM -0700 on 7/7/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Uli : I don't agree with ST's vision of the world.
Nor do I.
people occupy themselves without the
necessity (tyranny) of working to insure oneís survival,
And that alone is in opposition of reality.
Uli : Ultimately, I think even altruism is
At 7:40 PM -0700 on 7/8/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : I can relate, Uli. I have been using Yahoo mail since the
Incident, and still am (despite Anthony's recent assistance).
What happened with my attempts?
Hmmm... may have to set up a EIMS server agian myself to remember how it is
done :)
At 11:30 PM +0200 on 7/8/99, Uli Kusterer wrote:
NOTE:
I'm currently experiencing problems sending mail. I have contacted Tech
Support and hopefully this will soon be resolved, but until then I might reply
a bit less often to messages as I have to use a web interface. Now, on to
the message:
Hi,
At 5:31 PM +0200 on 7/8/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Alain : If you mean that the altruist is only being altruistic so that
he can feel good about himself, I suppose you could be right. But
thatís not so bad, is it?
Not necessarily feel good *about oneself*. Rather, you don't like people
being
At 5:39 PM +0200 on 7/8/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I could also argue -- I think we should allow resale. We may gain from
this like the PC platform benefited from the cloning business.
I agree we should allow resale. If someone wants to burn their own CD's and
sell them to friends, let them.
At 2:19 PM -0700 on 7/9/99, Rob Cozens wrote:
I've been biting my tongue and trying to keep uninvolved in this thread
ever since Uli's remark about altruism = egoism; but I can't read further
without offering a few fooleish thoughts:
Not having to work to ensure one's survival is in opposition
At 6:02 PM -0700 on 7/9/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : I can relate, Uli. I have been using Yahoo
mail since the Incident, and still am (despite
Anthony's recent assistance).
Anthony : What happened with my attempts?
Alain : Well, I did exactly as you suggested in your mail. When I chose
a
At 5:53 PM -0700 on 7/9/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : Well ... maybe not that easy after all. One or more members
have suggested that we adopt an existing licencing scheme instead of
drafting our own. The problem is that there is no ONE licencing scheme
out there that matches our needs
At 9:31 PM +0200 on 7/9/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Has anyone a clue what license Linux is under? Could we use that?
" NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user programs that use kernel
services by normal system calls - this is merely considered normal use
of the kernel, and does *not*
At 8:50 AM -0700 on 7/10/99, Rob Cozens wrote:
A is not A. Wonderfull.
You're beginning to catch on, Anthony:
A is not A.
A is not not A.
A is not both A and not A.
A is neither A nor not A.
I call that nonsence. And I'll happily test my theory that that is nonsence
by throwing a brick
At 2:47 AM +0200 on 7/10/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Not having to work to ensure one's survival is in opposition with one
reality shared by many cultures, especially puritanical and/or
economically-centered ones. (And in truth, it's the primary reality OC
will exist/compete for attention in.)
At 12:37 PM -0700 on 7/10/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Anthony : Please head over to
http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/BugTracker/bug.cgi and
see what I put together. It could be quite helpful
to us in the future.
Alain : Good work. But please notify me next time, though, when you're
installing
At 11:01 PM +0200 on 7/10/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Of course people did not work to the best of their ability. The harder you
worked, the more you are robbed -- in theoretical communism. The less you
work, the greater the percentage of what you earn that you keep. THat is,
the less you are
At 9:08 AM +1000 on 7/11/99, Paul Sutton wrote:
It's in opposition to reality. Not a reality "shared by many cultures," but
_the_ reality -- a reality created by the biology of the human body: People
must eat. Period.
Alright, alright, now I've can't resist joining in. :) You make one
very big
At 2:49 PM -0700 on 7/10/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
SPECIAL NOTE : Below are my counter-arguments in the context of an
on-going debate on Altruism. This has little to do with OpenCard
development, but it becomes somewhat relevant where OODL and
OC-licencing are concerned. And because so many have
At 12:19 PM +0200 on 7/11/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
If you give the three-year agreement to give a copy of them at cost, which
is a pain in the a**.
Anthony,
I don't think so. There are few people which are interested in C++ source
code, especially among the users of a product like OpenCard.
At 1:40 PM -0700 on 7/11/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Rob Cozens : As I review the various license provisions and follow the
accompanying discussion, it seems to me there is one basic issue left
unaddressed: What legal entity will issue the OC license? A group of
individual contributors, a non-profit
At 3:43 AM -0700 on 7/11/99, Michael Fair wrote:
Michael:
I am still failing to see why a standalone would need
to be under the GPL as well.
Because a standalone is a work combining the stack and the OpenCard engine.
Anything thet combines with the OpenCard engine must be under the GPL if
the
At 3:46 PM -0700 on 7/11/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Uli : There are few people which are interested in C++ source code,
especially among the users of a product like OpenCard.
Alain : You're absolutely right. There are even some of its developers,
like myself, that have no interest in C source code.
At 12:03 PM +1000 on 7/12/99, j b wrote:
The main thing that communisim is confused about it what it is not.
Communisim is opposite to Capitalisim.
NOT Democracy.
the reason communisim failed is because of human greed not any fault in the
theory exept maybe the failure to predict the greed.
If a
At 4:13 PM +1100 on 7/12/99, spierings wrote:
I've glanced at the perl source, anbd I've give the project to make Perl do
OT a go ahead.
At 4:36 PM +0200 on 7/13/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
But it applies to the mom-and-pop shop, too. It's not only huge companies
that are stuck with that clause: A small one-man company would have to have
a spearate set of source code CD's pressed -- even if they were only
pressing a thouysand
At 10:53 AM -0700 on 7/13/99, Michael Fair wrote:
Who here is having a go at making some
Perl modifcations?
I'm working on Bug Tracker, Interpreter, and ResCraft, so I really don't
have the time :(
At 9:56 PM +0200 on 7/13/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Quite expensivly, I might add. CD burns are normally in the thousands.
Anthony,
terminology again. OK, maybe my English wasn't good enough: I meant
burning a CD-R, not pressing a CD-ROM. A CD-R medium is about 2.50 (that's
DM, I guess this
At 2:01 PM -0700 on 7/13/99, Rob Cozens wrote:
Please do not mix up communism and what became reality under this name in
the USSR. Marx' concepts were very different from the way it turned out in
the end. What happened in the USSR is often referred to as socialism
(which, again, isn't social
At 2:44 PM +1000 on 7/15/99, Paul Sutton wrote:
* I don't accept a priori that the life of a modern day capitalist on Wall
Street is happier, healthier, or of higher quality in toto than the life of
an aboriginal person isolated from modern technology (if there are still
any).
I will say that
At 12:24 AM -0700 on 7/15/99, Geoff Canyon wrote:
This is probably for Anthony, as master of the interpreter, but anyway:
What would it take to put OpenTalk into a Netscape/IE-compatible plugin,
with access to the document object model? I'm thinking of a replacement
for javascript that anyone
It seems Uli is for the Artistic now?
Uli, is that correct?
At 2:16 PM +0200 on 7/15/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I don't like it. It would again mean we'd have to decide who "us" is. Is
it the mailing list? Then we'd get list tourism. Is it the core group as it
exists now? That would be an
At 4:07 PM -0700 on 7/15/99, Geoff Canyon wrote:
http://home.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/index.html
OK, I'm downloading them now.
At 10:16 PM + on 7/15/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : Less profit in the short-term but more profit in the long-term.
It's not altruism, but rather "deferred gratification with a greater
gain in mind", eh! That's more than OK in my book.
resisting urge to make political comment...
Michael
At 12:04 AM -0400 on 7/16/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://home.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/index.html
So long as we are off on a plugin thread, has anyone ever considered an xTalk
plugin for Codewarrior? Really, it could simply be a preprocessor plugin that
At 1:45 PM +0200 on 7/16/99, Uli Kusterer wrote:
has anyone ever considered an xTalk
plugin for Codewarrior? Really, it could simply be a preprocessor plugin
that
converted xTalk to C (although that could get mighty ugly I'm sure).
But,
well, anyone think there is anything there?
Brian,
in
At 1:25 PM +0200 on 7/16/99, Uli Kusterer wrote:
It seems Uli is for the Artistic now?
Uli, is that correct?
I don't have the Artistic here right now to check.
I posted it to the list. Check the archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/opencard@metacard.com/
Here is the relevant URL:
At 2:29 PM -0400 on 7/16/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Better yet, if anyone is brave enough to write an xTalk compiler that can
call toolbox routines etc (read: modern day CompileIt!)
A port of egcs, in other words?
At 3:21 PM -0400 on 7/16/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain : It is a book about how to form dynamic task-oriented groups
where everyone is aware of everyone else's skills, experience, etc ...
Practical but also philosophical. Recommended reading.
Anthony : I don't want to have to OCR every page and
At 2:51 PM +0200 on 7/17/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Better yet, if anyone is brave enough to write an xTalk compiler that can
call toolbox routines etc (read: modern day CompileIt!) , we'd all be able to
write our compiled apps in xTalk instead of C. Heck, we could write OpenCard
in compiled
At 8:28 PM +0200 on 7/15/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I'm not sure all scripters will like that. Some of them would like to sell
their sources in protected form. We'll have to allow for that (i.e. "remove
sources" should be an option when saving standalones).
We could ship in tokenized form, but
At 3:16 PM +0200 on 7/17/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
ask Uli how
bad I normaly am (remember Intepriter, anyone?).
Anthony,
you're torturing me! Grrr! Why did I promise not to complain about
spelling anymore !!! g
I don't know... poor planning? At least I'm spelling interpreter right, now.
At 3:01 PM +0200 on 7/17/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I posted it to the list. Check the archives:
I know, I still have it local. I just wasn't at home at that moment.
Now, I have it here, so:
2. You may apply bug fixes, portability fixes and other modifications
derived from the Public Domain
At 3:08 PM +0200 on 7/17/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I think what he's after is something like CompileIt, which, using OTVar.h
should not be too hard.
Yup. But couldn't he take the JIT as a starting point? After all, it does
compile to machine-language, doesn't it?
The JITC compiles to a machine
At 10:53 AM -0400 on 7/17/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I will go take a look at egcs as Anthony suggested. If I make any
real progress I'll report back, and share anything useful with the Opencard
effort.
I'm going to try to compile egcs on the Mac... I've gotten tired of certain
At 3:07 PM +0200 on 7/17/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Alain : Any comments on the above suggestion?
Alain,
as we already have a list of the UFP members, why don't we just add the
skills there and make it possible to publicly view part of the list and
leave messages on the UFP server if one wants
At 1:13 PM -0700 on 7/17/99, Michael Fair wrote:
The way I see it:
Interpreter = executable program code (or code segment)
Stack/Scripts = program data (or data segment)
The intrpreter loads the data, and executes it's
instructions. Changing the data segment of a program
without changing the
At 10:42 AM -0400 on 7/17/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm wishy-washy about what more could be done. I
don't think I want a heavily typed xTalk, and CompileIt! did let you
influence what types were used internally. But maybe it should support better
typing when you really want, say, a "float"
At 7:15 PM + on 7/17/99, Mark Rauterkus wrote:
HI All,
Suggestion: Can another list be formed to talk only about the license
issues?
But then we'd have nothing to talk about here g.
I think we should split the list, however.
Let's have some suggestions about how to split it. I'll start
At 2:28 PM +1100 on 7/20/99, spierings wrote:
We could even write the preprocessor in CompileIt! and call the code
resource from
CodeWarriors example preprocessor code. What do you think about that?
Two problems:
68K-only
No tools at all
In other words, we'll be putting
At 10:21 AM +0200 on 7/18/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I would have different types:
auto -- default. Behaves like variables in HyperTalk. Converts as
needed. Slow.
integer -- long int type in C
real-- double type in C
Anthony,
I wouldn't want that.
Hmmm...
At 12:27 AM -0400 on 7/20/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anthony, let me know if you get anywhere with that egcs Mac port. Needless to
say, I'm very interested if you get it to compile.
I'mm booting into Linux the second I get done with my email to try to
configure it from there.
it will require
At 2:21 PM +1100 on 7/20/99, spierings wrote:
So long as we are off on a plugin thread, has anyone ever considered an
xTalk
plugin for Codewarrior? Really, it could simply be a preprocessor plugin
that
converted xTalk to C (although that could get mighty ugly I'm sure). But,
well, anyone
At 7:39 PM -0400 on 7/19/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain: We have a problem here though. It will be difficult to attribute
a precise author for work done collectively. Who gets mentionned? In
what order? If a hundred people participated, do they all get cited?
If, instead, we decide to declare
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