http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/events/2005-01-20/
OSS-watch is a creature of the Joint Information Services Ctee, Which
does such stuff as providing the Internet connectivity for all UK
universities.
I can't go that week.
--
Adrian MidgleyFLOSS regularly
Andrew,
Thank you very much for this invitation on a boot in TERP-2005 in Salt
Lake City in May, and specially to Peter Waegemann.
But I do not think I could travel to Salt Lake City in May and present
demos personnally.
Some information is available on our web site :
For those that besides doing development/management for the healthcare
environment, also have to manage/supervise a web site, the following
article may be useful:
The Secret Benefit Of Search Engine Optimization: Increased Usability
A higher search ranking is what many website owners dream of.
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Does anyone know whether there is an open source CCOW implementation
similar to Sentillion?
Does a OSS PHP+MySQL routine like RBAC qualifies?
See more on:
A Role-Based Access Control (RBAC) system for PHP
http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/role-based-access-control.html
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 02:21, J. Antas wrote:
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Does anyone know whether there is an open source CCOW implementation
similar to Sentillion?
Does a OSS PHP+MySQL routine like RBAC qualifies?
See more on:
A Role-Based Access Control (RBAC) system for PHP
There are in fact 2 or three other vendors listed at the website...
perhaps there are other OS projects which cover the CCOW functionality
that is used in VistAwill get back to the list with more details.
Joseph
Tim Cook wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 02:21, J. Antas wrote:
Joseph Dal Molin
Dear Antas and Tony Marston,
Thank you very much for your overview, but I would like to make some
comments and suggestions.
"Role-Based-Access-Control":
Permanent "Role" or "Profile":
I agree with what you call "Role", although in our project we
call it "User-Profile".
Dear colleagues,
Thanks to Larry Ozeran [http://www.clinicalinformatics.com/] and the
Medical Records Institute, we will have opportunity to demo
free/open-source health software in the exhibit hall during the upcoming
TEPR 2005 meeting (May 16-18, Salt Lake City, UT)
Does anyone know whether there is an open source CCOW implementation
similar to Sentillion?
Joseph
I have been following the news on the web of the tragedy in South Asia
unleashed by the earthquake and tidal wave. I hope that our friends
living in the affected areas and those near and dear to them were not
personally affected, and my heart goes out to all those who lost loved
ones.
-- Bhaskar
Bhaskar,
Thank you for your concern. We're OK here. I wasn't even aware of the
earthquake until late last night. It was reported in this morning's
papers that there were 53 killed and 34 still missing (in Malaysia)
mainly from the northern states of Penang and Kedah, drowned by the
tidal
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 23:02, David Forslund wrote:
I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability to
run the software on Win platforms removes them
from consideration at this time.
Dave
Maybe this will be enough of a trigger to get them to try out some linux
/ unix
Original Message
From: Tim Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: OpenHealth List openhealth-list@minoru-development.com
Cc: Tim Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, Dec-24-2004 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public
health
On
David Forslund wrote:
I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability to
run the software on Win platforms removes them
from consideration at this time.
All of the tools and infrastructure used are cross-platform, with the
exception of PostgreSQL - but that will soon be also
Tim Cook wrote:
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 23:02, David Forslund wrote:
I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability to
run the software on Win platforms removes them
from consideration at this time.
Dave
Maybe this will be enough of a trigger to get them to try out some linux
This sounds reasonable and certainly is, but there are some more complications.
I try
to be database independent, too, letting the deployment of a particular
database to be
site specific. The problem I also ran into at our state is the required use of
MSSql
on an Windows platform.
Side note re limited to non-Windows by postgresql.
I've often run cygwin postgresql and, while it takes a
few minutes to setup, has run fine for me. I've read
elsewhere of people having stability problems with
that env but have not encountered any on my end. I
don't know if the stability
David Forslund wrote:
This sounds reasonable and certainly is, but there are some more complications. I try
to be database independent, too, letting the deployment of a particular database to be
site specific. The problem I also ran into at our state is the required use of MSSql
on an Windows
I have no problem with your comments, with one exception. The state of IT
in public health in the US, despite the efforts of the CDC, NEDSS, and PHIN is
pretty abysmal. I can't compare it to Australia, but on any scale, they are
in the dark ages here in the US and need all the help they can
David Forslund wrote:
I have no problem with your comments, with one exception. The state of IT
in public health in the US, despite the efforts of the CDC, NEDSS, and PHIN is
pretty abysmal. I can't compare it to Australia, but on any scale, they are
in the dark ages here in the US and need all
Hi all,
Here is something from Herman Tolentino who is in CDC public health
informatics:
The problems you stated are all symptomatic of a cultural problem in public
health in general. For a very long time, health informatics has been in the
fringes of public health where information technology
I am pleased to announce that developmental versions of some tools for
population
health epidemiology and public health are now available under a free, open
source
software license - see http://www.netepi.org (please note that the release
notes for
the NetEpi Analysis tool can be found in
I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability to
run the software on Win platforms removes them
from consideration at this time.
Dave
Tim Churches wrote:
I am pleased to announce that developmental versions of some tools for population
health epidemiology and public health
This is an useful work about a critical subject in healthcare
information systems. As such I would recommend its reading.
Server-Based Wide Area Data Replication for Disaster Recovery
.../...
This diploma thesis has been created during the eighth and last term of
my studies from March to June 2004
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| On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 03:37, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
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|Daou a consulting firm from the Wash. DC area i believe
|
|
| Yes, Joseph is correct; I've received confirmation from the Wisconsin
| PRO (Professional Review
Does anyone know: will the new Vista office have a PM system?
David Derauf
-Original Message-
From: Wayne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Federal office VistA vendor identy
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To the list:
I spoke today with the medical director of the
anesthesia pre-operative clinic. Although in the future we will have a pre-op
system fully integrated with an enterprise wide EHR, the director has immediate
need for an interim system to record a full HP with some check-lists for
Thanks Will. The MS-word comment was meant to be tongue in cheek.
-Original Message-
From: will ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCR and open source
On 14 Dec 2004, at 6:08
I am looking for a bit of advice or direction for a problem. I figure
some of you may have run into this before.
We currently have a RightFax server set up with in bound lines. Incoming
faxes are stored as a series or images (tiff files). does anyone know
how to send a print job to a server and
It depends...I don't know what their philosophical and corporate stand
is re OSS...
As far as VistAOffice EHR it doesn't matter because CMS and VA's
commitment is to release it as public domain just like VistA is today.
The VA is working on the project to ensure that the code is class 1
Can you convert them to .pdf...?
Pat wrote:
I am looking for a bit of advice or direction for a problem. I figure
some of you may have run into this before.
We currently have a RightFax server set up with in bound lines. Incoming
faxes are stored as a series or images (tiff files). does anyone
Joseph,
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough now that I consider it.
RightFax gives you the option to print the fax or save it. Unfortunately
the save is of each individual page (1 page 1 file, 6 pages 6 files). I
want to get them all into one file.
What I am thinking is to set up what looks to
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:16, Pat wrote:
pages. The server would then message the user where the file can be
found. We have an application here that allows us to attach files to the
records. To have to attach 6 or 10 or 25 individual files for one fax is
not workable. A PDF probably would be
On 14 Dec 2004, at 6:08 PM, David Derauf wrote:
It seems likely that the Continuity of Care Standards will soon be
adopted and promulgated by a wide array of organizations
(http://www.astm.org/COMMIT/E31_CCRJuly04.ppt)
I am wondering if anyone is aware of open source applications that
could
On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 03:37, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Daou a consulting firm from the Wash. DC area i believe
Yes, Joseph is correct; I've received confirmation from the Wisconsin
PRO (Professional Review Organization) staff.
http://www.daou.com/
What do we know about this firm relative to
It seemslikely that
the Continuity of Care Standards will soon be adopted and promulgated by a wide
array of organizations (http://www.astm.org/COMMIT/E31_CCRJuly04.ppt
)
I am wondering if anyone is
aware of open source applications thatcould easilytake advantage of
these standards for the
We use PJ and PJX to combine single-page PDF files into multi-page single
file PDFs.
See http://www.etymon.com/epub.html
- Don
http://www.openhre.org
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From: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Printing
Bruce, this is an awesome project you are working on. I have long
wanted to do the same thing for Mental health in Houston but have
little experience in grant-getting. Can I call you and discuss? Please
send your phone number.
-- IV
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:34:01 -0600
Bruce Slater [EMAIL
Question for David Forslund:
Is this significantly different in concept from the work you've already
done in the SW? Perhaps you might be interested in contacting Dr.
Slater
Dan Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 21:34, Bruce Slater wrote:
To the List:
We have a grant to study the feasibility
Dan,
The OpenHRE project features Dave's code optimised for this type of
records exchange. OpenEMed is the raw open source code base. OpenHRE
adds to OpenEMed a front end and connectivity to legacy HIT systems in
the exact environment described earlier. We're working directly with
Dave. There
This is entirely consistent with our efforts over the past 8 years (or more).
We are happy
to work with anyone who is trying to get this capability and it has been useful
working
with Will Ross on their project in association with Browsersoft, who also
shares this vision.
Dave Forslund
On Monday 13 December 2004 03:34, Bruce Slater wrote:
We have a grant to study the feasibility of connecting a state-wide group
of hospitals, clinics, private offices and labs. The grant is a planning
grant (200K US) for an implementation grant (2M US) to make the system
happen. The goals of
Will Ross and Bruce Slater,
You are not alone.
We are dealing here with very similar problems.
Our project is called "VIRTUAL CARE TEAM ", focusing on the support for
improving collaborative work between all the care providers in charge
of the same patient.
The care team of the patient
To the List:
We have a grant to study the feasibility of
connecting a state-wide group of hospitals, clinics, private offices and labs.
The grant is a planning grant (200K US)for an
implementationgrant (2M US) tomake the system happen. The goals
of the system would be:
Apatient from any
On 12 Dec 2004, at 7:34 PM, Bruce Slater wrote:
To the List:
We have a grant to study the feasibility of connecting a state-wide
group of hospitals, clinics, private offices and labs. The grant is a
planning grant (200K US) for an implementation grant (2M US) to make
the system happen. The
Hi Joseph,
How are you doing? We had a fascinating week at the RSNA this year discussing
the role of open source. If you get a chance i would like to sync up with what
you are doing.
Please use my new email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . this one is mostly cobwebs.
paul
I stumble on these with good links
http://www.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk/staff/cr1/ezdicom.html
http://www.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk/staff/cr1/dicom.html
Molly
Paul Nagy wrote:
Hi Joseph,
How are you doing? We had a fascinating week at the RSNA this year discussing the role of open source. If
Ironically the VSA founders did not include Sanchez/Fidelity, who thanks
to the foresight and intestinal fortitude of K.S. Bhaskar open sourced
GT.M for Linux and x86 platforms which IMHO is the pebble in the
pond that led a new and invigorated VistA community.
J.
Daniel L. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Daniel L. Johnson wrote:
...
The web site is: http://www.vistasoftware.org/
...
Glad to see that VistASoftware.Org is powered by Plone and Zope!
Best regards,
Andrew
---
Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes
www.TxOutcome.Org
Also wondering aloud, who is the vendor poring over the code for CMS?
And what is the relationship between the CMS VistA-Office code
wrangling already underway and the recently closed RFP for J2EE work on
the VA-VistA codebase? Are these separate or coordinated projects?
[wr]
- - - - - - - -
On
http://europa.eu.int/ida/en/document/3530/469
-
Ing. Bud P. Bruegger, Ph.D. +39-0564-488577
(voice), -21139 (fax)
Servizio Elaborazione Datie-mail: [EMAIL
An interesting article: The mistakes of version 1.0
Many people spend their entire careers waiting for a chance to work on
a version 1.0 project. When it happens, theyre so thrilled to work on
the beginning of something that lessons learned from other projects are
forgotten. The terms ground
One representation of the ICD-9-CM and others is the LexGrid work at Mayo of
Harold Solbrig.
It includes versions, language options, etc. and has a full server
implementation to go with it.
The model underlying it is available in XMI and other formats. My major
objection is that it
seems to
An excellent distillation of the social aspects of open source
development:
The Pro-Am Revolution
...
From astronomy to activism, from surfing to saving lives, Pro-Ams -
people pursuing amateur activities to professional standards - are an
increasingly important part of our society and economy.
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David Forslund wrote:
| One representation of the ICD-9-CM and others is the LexGrid work at
Mayo of Harold Solbrig.
|
|
This is the same Harold Solbrig of the OMG's LQS work I suspect?
|
| My major objection is that it
| seems to be tied to the LDAP
I have a question. There is a lot of info in the ICD-9-CM coding documents
that isn't
represented by simple text. It would seem that an XML representation of the
codes
with the exclusions, notes, etc. would be more generally useful. Flatting the
data to the number and the name seems to
David Forslund wrote:
I have a question. There is a lot of info in the ICD-9-CM coding documents
that isn't
represented by simple text. It would seem that an XML representation of the
codes
with the exclusions, notes, etc. would be more generally useful. Flatting the
data to the number and
The Multum lexicon database which is available free at
http://www.multum.com has a table in it representing
the ICD9-CM I believe it is updated each month. It is
in an MS-Access format. Andrew Ho made a tab delimited
text version of some of the multum tables in 2003 that
has the ICD9-CM table
Alexander Caldwell wrote:
The Multum lexicon database which is available free at
http://www.multum.com has a table in it representing
the ICD9-CM I believe it is updated each month. It is
in an MS-Access format.
Yes, thanks, I had forgotten about Multum Lexicon. It is distributed
under a liberal
I found this piece of opensource software:
http://memberwebs.com/nielsen/software/rtfx/
which is at least 10 times faster than any commercial products I've tried at
turning
an RTF file into an XML file which can then be parsed with various XML tools.
I know python can be used to take
apart
David Forslund wrote:
I found this piece of opensource software:
http://memberwebs.com/nielsen/software/rtfx/
which is at least 10 times faster than any commercial products I've tried at
turning
an RTF file into an XML file which can then be parsed with various XML tools.
I know python can
Tim Churches wrote:
Does anyone know where a set of US ICD-9-CM codes and descriptions as
plain text i.e. in a format which can be imported into databse - can be
obatined at no cost? The data do not have to be re-distributable, just
available on teh Internet for free. I have been able to find a
Tim Churches wrote:
This patent application is a beauty, by Microsoft this time:
See
http://snipurl.com/axm5
or
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PG01p=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmlr=1f=Gl=50s1=%2220040234938%22.PGNR.OS=DN/20040234938RS=DN/20040234938
Tim,
Hey, I asked that same question not long ago.
I look forward to using the parser.
BTW you better patent that method for parsing RTF ICD-9 files :-D
Pat
Tim Churches wrote:
Does anyone know where a set of US ICD-9-CM codes and descriptions as
plain text i.e. in a format which can be imported
Pat wrote:
Tim,
Hey, I asked that same question not long ago.
Yes, I do dimly recall it now that you mention it. No satisfactory
answer, I presume?
I look forward to using the parser.
After you strip all the formatting out, the NCHS RTF files have a very
regular format, thank goodness.
BTW you
Joseph wrote:
The HUI has had something like 1,600 downloads, and I don't even know
how many we have had at the WorldVistA sourceforge site:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista/
From that page you click on the statistics link to go to
http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=60087
Thanks Jim!!!
Jim Self wrote:
Joseph wrote:
The HUI has had something like 1,600 downloads, and I don't even know
how many we have had at the WorldVistA sourceforge site:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista/
From that page you click on the statistics link to go to
A few times I have needed to implement routines that output Adobe
PostScript for the purpose of printing barcodes in several different
languages. Recently this has provoked me to cook up the following
routine that implements the printing of barcodes entirely within level 2
PostScript. This means
I wish I understood the significance of downloads from sourceforge.net.
Sourceforge says our system has had over 14,000 downloads but I don't think
this has
any real relationship to the number of users of the software. I suspect that
the number
from worldvista may be more in proportion to
Hi,
To win a game (and be officially declared as winner), one must play it
according to its rules.
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 17:18, Tim Churches wrote:
The cost of lodging opposition to a patent before it issues here in
Asutralia is AUD$550.
I am willing to reimburse you this amount.
Elpidio Latorilla wrote:
Hi,
To win a game (and be officially declared as winner), one must play it
according to its rules.
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 17:18, Tim Churches wrote:
The cost of lodging opposition to a patent before it issues here in
Asutralia is AUD$550.
I am willing to
Tim Churches wrote:
This patent application is a beauty, by Microsoft this time:
Um, I just realised that the construction ...is a beauty may be an
Australian colloquialism. It is not meant to convey that the thing being
referred to is beautiful, but rather that it is surprising, jaw-dropping
Does anyone know where a set of US ICD-9-CM codes and descriptions as
plain text i.e. in a format which can be imported into databse - can be
obatined at no cost? The data do not have to be re-distributable, just
available on teh Internet for free. I have been able to find a free set
of US
I thought the veterans of this list would appreciate the article
mentioned below
Joseph
Original Message
Subject: [discuss] Flaming and the design of social software
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:18:34 -0600
From: michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Canadian Open Source
To All,
I don't know if having someone here in DC to deliver documents would help.
I am willing to however.
Pat
Tim Churches wrote:
Gerard Freriks wrote:
Hi,
Lets be sensible.
A template is nothing but a screen thta can be filled.
As far as I know that has been described many times before 2001.
Isn't it?
Yes, but pointers to papers published prior to 2001 which specifically
describe this would be
David Forslund wrote:
What I have a problem is properly identifying prior art. The background
papers clearly cover these issues long before these patents were submitted, but only in a general way by describing
the general problem that the patent is dealing with in the specific.
I would go so
Will any part of the VA's My HealtheVet portal
provide some prior art? It's an web based patient
health record.
http://www.health-evet.va.gov/
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Beale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:28 AM
To: David Forslund
Subject: Re: A
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 18:29, Tim Churches wrote:
At a glance, there would not appear to be much in the way of novelty in
the claims, and several groups here in Australia plan to lodge
objections to the application. Others may wish to object to the
applications in their own countries. If
Certainly the work we have done with OpenEMed qualifies, too. The paper we
wrote in 1997 on the Virtual Patient Record in the Communications of the ACM
has these concepts, too. CACM, 1997, vol 40., No. 8 pp 110-117
Dave
Original Message
From: Tim Cook [EMAIL
Tim,
I published this invention back in 1998 titled Patient-Controlled
Electronic Medical Records. Please see:
http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/readings/patient-controlled
and referenced here: http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/readings/oio
This work has been online and retrievable via
On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 07:49, David Forslund wrote:
Certainly the work we have done with OpenEMed qualifies, too. The paper we
wrote in 1997 on the Virtual Patient Record in the Communications of the ACM
has these concepts, too. CACM, 1997, vol 40., No. 8 pp 110-117
Dave
Sorry for leaving
And if you do a google on Virtual Patient Record you will see as the first
hit the pre-published version of our (Kilman and myself)
CACM paper outlining how do do all of this, from February, 1996. This is prior
to Andrew's patent, but describes the
role of a patient in managing their own
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, David Forslund wrote:
And if you do a google on Virtual Patient Record you will see as the
first hit the pre-published version of our (Kilman and myself) CACM
paper outlining how do do all of this, from February, 1996.
Dave,
I just read your virtual patient record paper
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 20:29, Tim Churches wrote:
There is some concern here in Australia over a patent application lodged
by the Pharmacy Guild of Australia over some rather generic features of
EHRs.
More prior art...
Dr. Thomas Payne used WAN technology to distribute his own EHR between
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Daniel L. Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 20:29, Tim Churches wrote:
There is some concern here in Australia over a patent application lodged
by the Pharmacy Guild of Australia over some rather generic features of
EHRs.
More prior art...
Dr. Thomas Payne used
On 22 Nov 2004, at 6:29 PM, Tim Churches wrote:
There is some concern here in Australia over a patent application
lodged by the Pharmacy Guild of Australia over some rather generic
features of EHRs.
snip
The details of the CR Group application for METHOD AND SYSTEM FOR
SECURE INFORMATION can
Tim Cook wrote:
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 18:29, Tim Churches wrote:
At a glance, there would not appear to be much in the way of novelty in
the claims, and several groups here in Australia plan to lodge
objections to the application. Others may wish to object to the
applications in their own
The sentence says the patient will take an active role in managing their own
health by having access to the virtual
patient record. We specifically didn't say they would necessarily have
control, since that might be still managed
by the physician providing the data. But the fact that they
Andrew Ho wrote:
Tim,
I published this invention back in 1998 titled Patient-Controlled
Electronic Medical Records. Please see:
http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/readings/patient-controlled
and referenced here: http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/readings/oio
This work has been online and
Andrew Ho wrote:
This means writing documentation to fully disclose innovative
system features
Agree.
and filing some patents from time to time may become
increasingly important for free software projects.
Disagree. I, like many people, believe that Software, algorithmic and
business method
Thus the patent you describe would make the RAD OMG specification a violation
of your patent,
since it provides a mechanism to specifically what you say plus a lot more?
Note that the
RFP for this was issued in February, 1998:
http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?corbamed/98-02-23.
The result is a
Andrew Ho wrote:
But do these prior systems provide the follwing set of functions?
comprising the steps of : the consumer causing personal health data to be
stored in a secure repository, said repository requiring authentication of
the consumer's identity before the consumer is provided access
David Forslund wrote:
Thus the patent you describe would make the RAD OMG specification a violation of your patent,
since it provides a mechanism to specifically what you say plus a lot more?
If the patent application in question is approved in the US and the
patent issues (yes, they have filed
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Tim Churches wrote:
Andrew Ho wrote:
Tim,
I published this invention back in 1998 titled Patient-Controlled
Electronic Medical Records. Please see:
http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/readings/patient-controlled
and referenced here:
I agree, and the OMG has some boiler plate that typically removes them from any
patent liability leaving it up
to the implementor of the technology. What I have a problem is properly
identifying prior art. The background
papers clearly cover these issues long before these patents were
Andrew Ho wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Tim Churches wrote:
Andrew Ho wrote:
Tim,
I published this invention back in 1998 titled Patient-Controlled
Electronic Medical Records. Please see:
http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/readings/patient-controlled
and referenced here:
David Forslund wrote:
I agree, and the OMG has some boiler plate that typically removes them from any
patent liability leaving it up
to the implementor of the technology. What I have a problem is properly identifying
prior art. The background
papers clearly cover these issues long before these
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, David Forslund wrote:
Thus the patent you describe would make the RAD OMG specification a
violation of your patent, since it provides a mechanism to specifically
what you say plus a lot more?
Dave,
No, if RAD OMG spec is a superset of any subsequent patent, then the
Gerard Freriks wrote:
Hi,
Lets be sensible.
A template is nothing but a screen thta can be filled.
As far as I know that has been described many times before 2001.
Isn't it?
Yes, but pointers to papers published prior to 2001 which specifically
describe this would be appreciated. Formal and
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