[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Marcus
nice. red1 wrote: Baru tadi saya selesai menghadiri forum anjuran MDec bersama FOSSmy dimana beberapa tokoh dunia seperti Brian Aker dan David Axmark (rakan pereka MySQL). Setelah mendedahkan soal budaya yang sama dirasai oleh mereka walaupun di Eropah, dimana mereka sendiri tidak ada

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
Saya baru mendapatkan khidmat nasihat mengenai hasrat saya untuk membangunkan Malaysian Common Desktop dengan wakil MDec di Kelantan. Nampaknya beliau sangat berminat dengan idea tersebut, namun dengan satu pertanyaan, Bagaimana anda mendapatkan keuntungan dari produk ini Saya tidak berhasrat

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Marcus
In some ways that is very true. One day someone might invent that star-trek device that can create food, gold or anything by just adding electrons to atoms. Then everyone can work for free and the betterment of human race. Until then... funds are required to get things working. The guy on

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Ditesh Kumar
2009/10/29 Marcus mar...@python.my: Until then... funds are required to get things working. The guy on mysql wouldn't even be able to survice if he didn't  have I don't think this is an accurate representation of MySQL's history. You should have attended David Axmark's talk on Sunday morning

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik BRIAN RITCHIE
Ditesh, Any chance his presentation will be uploaded/circulated ? I was one of the few guilty ones that missed due to an overshot alarm clock. :-( On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Ditesh Kumar ditesh.ku...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/10/29 Marcus mar...@python.my: Until then... funds are

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Ditesh Kumar
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:45 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE esqbrianritc...@gmail.com wrote: Ditesh,   Any chance his presentation will be uploaded/circulated ? I was one of the few guilty ones that missed due to an overshot alarm clock. :-( We're chasing up for the video! But here are a couple

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik BRIAN RITCHIE
I know. Its no excuse and I openly admit it. Late night unfortunately though I agree, missing his talk was inexcusable. Ditesh, thanks a mill dude. Greatly appreciated -BRIAN RITCHIE On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:56 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Brian, Shame on you! Overshot alarm clock? :)

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Marcus
He was jobless when he did that? I didn't assume he asked for funding, i just assumed he had spare time and an existing paid job. At least that is how the traditional school was to me...fund your own ideas with your own money. When i first co-started a company in 1999, i swiped my credit card

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Ditesh Kumar
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Marcus mar...@python.my wrote: He was jobless when he did that? I didn't assume he asked for funding, i And in fact, they also rejected funding early on coming from prominent sources. As David says, Know what you need, not what you want :) Ditesh

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
I am agree with Boh, this is a sosio-economic problem. I am working with an IT firm and our business model doesn't reach Google's or Ubuntu's business model yet, we like to adopt it, but we CAN'T. It may takes 5-10 years to see it happens here. How do you sell FOSS when it's available for

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Ahmad Amran Kapi
Saya suka foldees.com hasil dari pre-seed juga. Ada projek yang bagus, ada projek kadang-kadang kita tak tau apa yang akan naik e.g search engine - google ? (sedangkan ada banyak search engine sebelum dia), webmail - gmail (yahoo ,hotmail dah ada, kenapa nak ada satu lagi webmail ? Ahmad Amran

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
Betul tu encik Amran. Diorang dapat pre-seed sebab diorang dapat jawab soalan How do you get income from this project?...untuk jangka masa pendek, maksud saya pendapatan di depan mata hasil penjualan e-card, berapa ringgit sekeping, kalau seringgit sekeping 1juta dapat RM1juta. Bila cakap pasal

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-29 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
boh, from your writing, the first thing that came to my mind is that we need people who are willing to solve real problems. genuinely helping other people to solve a problem. not about making a fast buck. ditesh and marcus, that is so true... hasan and amran, maybe we should propose to mdec to

[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

2009-10-26 Terurut Topik se7en
congrate red1..!! 2009/10/27 saifuladli ismail ismail.saifula...@gmail.com bravo tuan red1. I like this...sebak rasanya 2009/10/26 red1 r...@red1.org Baru tadi saya selesai menghadiri forum anjuran MDec bersama FOSSmy dimana beberapa tokoh dunia seperti Brian Aker dan David Axmark (rakan