RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-19 Thread Ishai Sagi
Remote desktop (citrix etc) will not have latency...files never leave the network. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 3:27 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-19 Thread Victor Isakov
Hmmm: Looks like it's no longer a free product. That's a shame: (Only had a very quick look.) DocAve 5 Extender was a free product when I talked about RBS at a some conference a couple of years back: http://www.avepoint.com/news/2010/02/24/avepoint-introduces-free-tool-for-sh

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-19 Thread Paul Noone
Yeah, I keep hoping MS will play catch-up with each new version but I can't really wait that long. :) Citrix desktop cannot achieve what we want apparently. There's a limitation with the wauy it handles profiles. Yey strangely they offerr what we need as an app for iOS and Android. Sadly that

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-19 Thread Paul Noone
It's not encouraging to see that the last post on the Microsoft Business Connectivity Services Team Bloghttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/bcs/ was over 4 years ago. SO are all the examples I've found. :\ This example is the best I could find but it only includes read operations.

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Victor Isakov
OOC are you using SQL Server Enterprise Edition? This whole RBS / FILESTREAM area is a bit of a mess with lots of miscommunication, etc. And don't get me started on this 200GB content database BS. The person(s) responsible for

Re: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Sutha Thavaratnarajah
Good explanation Victor. Thanks for this thread guys. Informative. Sutha 0450076504 Sent from my iPhone On 18 Aug 2014, at 4:45 pm, Victor Isakov vic...@sqlserversolutions.com.au wrote: OOC are you using SQL Server Enterprise Edition? This whole RBS / FILESTREAM area is a bit of a mess

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Ishai Sagi
Paul - the collaboration refers to databases that are used for about equal amounts of read\write, as opposed to document repository (think document centres and record centres) which is a mostly read, rarely write database - and Microsoft supports up to 4TB in those types of databases - with

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Noone
Thank Victor. I couldn't agree with you more! So much damn contradictory info. And thanks for the explanation, Ishai. All the files already exist on a file share. Users download large files to their system to work on to avoid network latency. My goal is simply to give them access to this file

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Ishai Sagi
If the user is off the network, doesn't that mean that sharepoint will not be available either? Or is sharepoint available through the internet - which only raises more worries - a CAD file would make a dent in most download allowances, not to mention potential speed issues with the uplink... I

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Noone
SharePoint is available over the Internet. I mean when the user is not directly connected to the network. I agree speed will be an issue. But this is more about providing remote access when required. They need read/write capability. I've never seen an example of a BDC connected list in action

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Victor Isakov
What about something like DropBox? From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 12:25 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library SharePoint is available over the Internet.

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Noone
We don't want any third party solutions or off-site storage. From what I can find (and information is hard to come by) I can bind the BDC model to an assembly, which means I can write custom actions for file interactions. Is it hard just to expose them as a list (filename,size,modified date)

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Victor Isakov
Which is why I suggested Drop Box. Offsite back = good Over the Internet access from virtually all popular O/Ss = good And it integrates into NASs, file servers, etc seamlessly without affecting what you do at the SPS level or anything else. But I completely understand if a business

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Noone
I was hoping to a void a third-party solution, Ishai, but the DocAve solution does look very good. Nothing's going to solve latency when off-network. I might look at demoing both and will let you know. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Victor Isakov

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-17 Thread James Boman
Paul, Have you considered using FILESTREAM storage on the SQL server for storing the files as files, while still keeping the benefits of housing them in a SharePoint document library? Cheers, James. James Boman ■ Phone:

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-17 Thread Paul Noone
Hi James, I'm open to both. My understanding is they want to a way to easily access or dump files (when offline) for these types of files. · Does using SharePoint synch button on a library physically copy the entire library to the local PC? · Can I specify a UNC path to a

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-17 Thread James Boman
Paul, Does using SharePoint synch button on a library physically copy the entire library to the local PC? Yes - as far as I know it will copy the entire library to the local machine for offline use. Dumping of files into the same path will cause OneDrive for Business upload them in the

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-17 Thread Ivan Wilson
My experience with OneDrive for Business has been very poor. It only supports a limited number of files and folders in a sync location (20,000 in your My Site library, 5,000 in other libraries - linkhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/2933738). It has constantly run into issues for me, with the

RE: Use a newtwork share as the source for a document library

2014-08-17 Thread Paul Noone
Well I can disable download availability per library thank goodness. But the following limitations are potential blockers unless there's an easy way to expand out to new databases as each one fills up. · The use of RBS-enabled content databases larger than 200GB with collaboration