Re: free VPN

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep you can set up a VPN but there's very little point in doing that if 
you don't have a VPN provider.


That's where services like Witopia are dead handy because they provide 
you with the server so you can set your VPN up but - even better than 
that - you don't have to know a single thing about setting up VPN 
networks to use Witopia, just install the client.


This last method would be of particular interest to Windows users as - 
in Windows - you cannot set up a secure VPN Network with protocols such 
as IPSEC so the client is dead handy that way.

On 2/11/2014 10:18 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You could set your own vpn up if you know how to do this.
Though i don’t  know how hard this is.
/A

1 nov 2014 kl. 10:25 skrev André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za:

Hi all



For a few years now I have been using Witopia as a VPN service  to enable me
to listen to bbc radio five live and five live extra for especially rugby
union and grand prix action.  These broadcasts were often not available
outside the UK so you needed a VPN to listen to them.



Unfortunately due to financial circumstances I cannot afford Witopia anymore
but would dearly love to access the sport stations from the BBC.



Was just wondering if anyone knows of a free VPN somewhere that I could use
although I doubt whether such a thing exists.



Regards



Andre












Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows Media 12 
- think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it 
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this 
extensively and no other.


On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 11 was good; 
I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried to use the version of 
Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't quite so intuitive...at least not 
for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while ago, I 
answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at the time that there’s 
probably an even better answer built right into Windows itself which I assume 
the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last tried it - was 
very accessible indeed.

I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone else on list 
suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane











Re: appleTV to RCA (composite)

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Only my way of thinking of course but it does sound to me like very 
unecessary and time wasting work doing something like this and I say 
that with a variety of reasons in mind.


Yes, I do udnerstand that many of us are cash strapped - thought I'd 
point that out before those who can't read eMail waste more band width 
smile - but when all is said and done you're probably going to throw 
more good money after bad.


Secondly, the picture quality of composet is nothing like that of even 
S-Video and certainly nothing like the quality of HDMI, that's not an 
Issue I myself am worried about however for those who want to watch 
videos from your Apple TV? Well they're going to be incredibly disappointed.


Next is the fact that HDMI does far more than send video to a TV, HDMI 
is a digital link which is interactive so I'm not at all surprised that 
some people may have had problems getting converter boxes working with 
an Apple TV particuarly when it comes to Voiceover.


Given that HDMI TV'S are literally being given away these days I'm sure 
it wouldn't take you all that long to find one and of course we're not 
talking about the latest TV'S either.


I have a Samsung 19 inch model here which - whilst isn't a 4K ultra HDTV 
- does a very good job I'm told by those who watch it, I'm planning on 
getting something bigger in the future but its not a priority for 
obvious reasons and - even suppose I did get something bigger - where 
would i put it? The 19 inch Samsung sits very nicely thanks in my cabinet.


When I first got that TV I didn't have my Donon HDMI Receiver so I ran a 
HDMI lead from the Apple TV to the Samsung Television and then ran an 
Optical Digital link from the TV to the Yamaha Receiver which I was 
using at the time so both picture and sound quality were more than 
reasonable doing things this way, just some points for you to ponder.


On 2/11/2014 5:26 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:

Hi all, has anyone had any luck connecting an AppleTV to RCA (red/white audio 
and yellow video - composite) jacks on a pre-amp or receiver? I have tried 
several adaptors without any success.
Frank





Re: free VPN question

2014-11-02 Thread Howard Traxler
Someone please:
What is VPN, what does it do, and why would one want and use it?
Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message - 
From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: free VPN


Dane

I will not voluntarily change from witopia.  Just like you I have found them
excellent and really have no complaints about the service at all.

But the circumstanc3es are unfortunately beyond my control.

And the thing is that the only reason I would use it is to listen to the
bbc!!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 01 November 2014 11:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN

Before I started using Witopia I did use Hotspot Shield but bare in mind
that it places ads on your desktop and this can make access tools such as
Screen readers behave unpredictably at times.

Also note that you have to renew the connection after an hour.

The last time I used Hotspot shield I couldn't access the list of countries
through the client though this may have changed.

I'm talking about the free Hotspot Shield of course and not the paid one.

I'm sorry to hear that you're unable to use Witopia due to your
circumstances, I've tried plenty of VPN providers in the past ad I would
have to say that Witopia is about as good as I've found that you can get,
24/7 live tech support, extensive tutorials and guides on setting up your
VPN, unlimited data transfer and so it goes, I have the Pro account and I
pay around $60 a year I think it is, there's a cheaper account for $35 a
year though it has limitations and I'm not sure exactly what those are as I
write this but you can find all the details at http://www.witopia.net
http://www.witopia.net/


 On 1 Nov 2014, at 8:25 pm, André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 
 
 For a few years now I have been using Witopia as a VPN service  to 
 enable me to listen to bbc radio five live and five live extra for 
 especially rugby union and grand prix action.  These broadcasts were 
 often not available outside the UK so you needed a VPN to listen to them.
 
 
 
 Unfortunately due to financial circumstances I cannot afford Witopia 
 anymore but would dearly love to access the sport stations from the BBC.
 
 
 
 Was just wondering if anyone knows of a free VPN somewhere that I 
 could use although I doubt whether such a thing exists.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 Andre
 
 
 
 
 

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane











Re: free VPN question

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
a VPn ins a Virtual Private Network, in other words a virtual tunnel on 
the Internet between your computer ahd the other computer, VPN'S are 
commonly used in those situations where sensitive data is exchanged 
between point A and point B, vinancial transactions and the like - 
someone I know who works from home as a Finance Manager uses a VPN from 
his home to contact and do his work for example -.


This means obviously that you can use a VPN to have your computer 
simulate another in a place far from where you are, you can establish a 
VPN between you and a VPN server in Longbeach California thus when you 
play a stream originating from Longbeach California which may have 
geoblocking restrictions in place which will be ignored given that the 
streamer thinks you're in Longbeach.


Having said all that however one needs to put some thought into the type 
of VPN used, there are protocols in use which are more secure than 
others, some VPN services offer unlimited VPN plans whilst others do 
not, I explained some of this in my initial response to the original 
eMail in this thread.



On 2/11/2014 11:45 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Someone please:
What is VPN, what does it do, and why would one want and use it?
Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message -
From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: free VPN


Dane

I will not voluntarily change from witopia.  Just like you I have found them
excellent and really have no complaints about the service at all.

But the circumstanc3es are unfortunately beyond my control.

And the thing is that the only reason I would use it is to listen to the
bbc!!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 01 November 2014 11:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN

Before I started using Witopia I did use Hotspot Shield but bare in mind
that it places ads on your desktop and this can make access tools such as
Screen readers behave unpredictably at times.

Also note that you have to renew the connection after an hour.

The last time I used Hotspot shield I couldn't access the list of countries
through the client though this may have changed.

I'm talking about the free Hotspot Shield of course and not the paid one.

I'm sorry to hear that you're unable to use Witopia due to your
circumstances, I've tried plenty of VPN providers in the past ad I would
have to say that Witopia is about as good as I've found that you can get,
24/7 live tech support, extensive tutorials and guides on setting up your
VPN, unlimited data transfer and so it goes, I have the Pro account and I
pay around $60 a year I think it is, there's a cheaper account for $35 a
year though it has limitations and I'm not sure exactly what those are as I
write this but you can find all the details at http://www.witopia.net
http://www.witopia.net/



On 1 Nov 2014, at 8:25 pm, André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za

wrote:

Hi all



For a few years now I have been using Witopia as a VPN service  to
enable me to listen to bbc radio five live and five live extra for
especially rugby union and grand prix action.  These broadcasts were
often not available outside the UK so you needed a VPN to listen to them.



Unfortunately due to financial circumstances I cannot afford Witopia
anymore but would dearly love to access the sport stations from the BBC.



Was just wondering if anyone knows of a free VPN somewhere that I
could use although I doubt whether such a thing exists.



Regards



Andre






**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane














RE: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work differently 
than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows Media 12 
- think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it 
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this 
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 11 was 
 good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried to use the version 
 of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't quite so intuitive...at least 
 not for me!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

 Hi!

 Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while ago, I 
 answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at the time that 
 there’s probably an even better answer built right into Windows itself which 
 I assume the questioner was using.

 The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last tried it - 
 was very accessible indeed.

 I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone else on list 
 suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

 **

 Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane











Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Curiosity now has the better of me so I’ll take a look for myself, been a long 
while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.

 On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work differently 
 than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 11 waas!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software
 
 Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows Media 12 
 - think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it 
 comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this 
 extensively and no other.
 
 On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 11 was 
 good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried to use the 
 version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't quite so 
 intuitive...at least not for me!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software
 
 Hi!
 
 Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while ago, I 
 answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at the time that 
 there’s probably an even better answer built right into Windows itself which 
 I assume the questioner was using.
 
 The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last tried it - 
 was very accessible indeed.
 
 I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone else on list 
 suggested Windows Media Player anyway.
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







RE: free VPN question

2014-11-02 Thread André van Deventer
In my case I only need one to listen to programs on bbc five live and bbc
five live extra  which you cannot hear outside the UK.  So the bbc server
actually thinks that you are connecting from inside the UK.  I haven't found
any other way to do this than using a VPN like witopia.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 02 November 2014 03:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN question

a VPn ins a Virtual Private Network, in other words a virtual tunnel on the
Internet between your computer ahd the other computer, VPN'S are commonly
used in those situations where sensitive data is exchanged between point A
and point B, vinancial transactions and the like - someone I know who works
from home as a Finance Manager uses a VPN from his home to contact and do
his work for example -.

This means obviously that you can use a VPN to have your computer simulate
another in a place far from where you are, you can establish a VPN between
you and a VPN server in Longbeach California thus when you play a stream
originating from Longbeach California which may have geoblocking
restrictions in place which will be ignored given that the streamer thinks
you're in Longbeach.

Having said all that however one needs to put some thought into the type of
VPN used, there are protocols in use which are more secure than others, some
VPN services offer unlimited VPN plans whilst others do not, I explained
some of this in my initial response to the original eMail in this thread.


On 2/11/2014 11:45 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
 Someone please:
 What is VPN, what does it do, and why would one want and use it?
 Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message -
 From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:48 AM
 Subject: RE: free VPN


 Dane

 I will not voluntarily change from witopia.  Just like you I have 
 found them excellent and really have no complaints about the service at
all.

 But the circumstanc3es are unfortunately beyond my control.

 And the thing is that the only reason I would use it is to listen to 
 the bbc!!



 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: 01 November 2014 11:45 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: free VPN

 Before I started using Witopia I did use Hotspot Shield but bare in 
 mind that it places ads on your desktop and this can make access tools 
 such as Screen readers behave unpredictably at times.

 Also note that you have to renew the connection after an hour.

 The last time I used Hotspot shield I couldn't access the list of 
 countries through the client though this may have changed.

 I'm talking about the free Hotspot Shield of course and not the paid one.

 I'm sorry to hear that you're unable to use Witopia due to your 
 circumstances, I've tried plenty of VPN providers in the past ad I 
 would have to say that Witopia is about as good as I've found that you 
 can get,
 24/7 live tech support, extensive tutorials and guides on setting up 
 your VPN, unlimited data transfer and so it goes, I have the Pro 
 account and I pay around $60 a year I think it is, there's a cheaper 
 account for $35 a year though it has limitations and I'm not sure 
 exactly what those are as I write this but you can find all the 
 details at http://www.witopia.net http://www.witopia.net/


 On 1 Nov 2014, at 8:25 pm, André van Deventer 
 andred...@webafrica.org.za
 wrote:
 Hi all



 For a few years now I have been using Witopia as a VPN service  to 
 enable me to listen to bbc radio five live and five live extra for 
 especially rugby union and grand prix action.  These broadcasts were 
 often not available outside the UK so you needed a VPN to listen to them.



 Unfortunately due to financial circumstances I cannot afford Witopia 
 anymore but would dearly love to access the sport stations from the BBC.



 Was just wondering if anyone knows of a free VPN somewhere that I 
 could use although I doubt whether such a thing exists.



 Regards



 Andre





 **

 Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
















Re: free VPN question

2014-11-02 Thread Jeremy
It's a complete shot in the dark, and may not even work for streaming 
radio type materials, but, have you also taken a look at the hola 
service. It seems to be especially useful for watching things like hulu 
and netflix from other countries. I currently know some folks in Canada 
who are using it to get access to the Netflixs we get here in the states.
Like I said, not sure what exactly it covers and what it doesn't, but 
the folks who use it, love it.

https://hola.org/
Take care and blessings.

On 11/2/2014 10:57 AM, André van Deventer wrote:

In my case I only need one to listen to programs on bbc five live and bbc
five live extra  which you cannot hear outside the UK.  So the bbc server
actually thinks that you are connecting from inside the UK.  I haven't found
any other way to do this than using a VPN like witopia.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 02 November 2014 03:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN question

a VPn ins a Virtual Private Network, in other words a virtual tunnel on the
Internet between your computer ahd the other computer, VPN'S are commonly
used in those situations where sensitive data is exchanged between point A
and point B, vinancial transactions and the like - someone I know who works
from home as a Finance Manager uses a VPN from his home to contact and do
his work for example -.

This means obviously that you can use a VPN to have your computer simulate
another in a place far from where you are, you can establish a VPN between
you and a VPN server in Longbeach California thus when you play a stream
originating from Longbeach California which may have geoblocking
restrictions in place which will be ignored given that the streamer thinks
you're in Longbeach.

Having said all that however one needs to put some thought into the type of
VPN used, there are protocols in use which are more secure than others, some
VPN services offer unlimited VPN plans whilst others do not, I explained
some of this in my initial response to the original eMail in this thread.


On 2/11/2014 11:45 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Someone please:
What is VPN, what does it do, and why would one want and use it?
Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message -
From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: free VPN


Dane

I will not voluntarily change from witopia.  Just like you I have
found them excellent and really have no complaints about the service at

all.

But the circumstanc3es are unfortunately beyond my control.

And the thing is that the only reason I would use it is to listen to
the bbc!!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: 01 November 2014 11:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN

Before I started using Witopia I did use Hotspot Shield but bare in
mind that it places ads on your desktop and this can make access tools
such as Screen readers behave unpredictably at times.

Also note that you have to renew the connection after an hour.

The last time I used Hotspot shield I couldn't access the list of
countries through the client though this may have changed.

I'm talking about the free Hotspot Shield of course and not the paid one.

I'm sorry to hear that you're unable to use Witopia due to your
circumstances, I've tried plenty of VPN providers in the past ad I
would have to say that Witopia is about as good as I've found that you
can get,
24/7 live tech support, extensive tutorials and guides on setting up
your VPN, unlimited data transfer and so it goes, I have the Pro
account and I pay around $60 a year I think it is, there's a cheaper
account for $35 a year though it has limitations and I'm not sure
exactly what those are as I write this but you can find all the
details at http://www.witopia.net http://www.witopia.net/



On 1 Nov 2014, at 8:25 pm, André van Deventer
andred...@webafrica.org.za

wrote:

Hi all



For a few years now I have been using Witopia as a VPN service  to
enable me to listen to bbc radio five live and five live extra for
especially rugby union and grand prix action.  These broadcasts were
often not available outside the UK so you needed a VPN to listen to them.



Unfortunately due to financial circumstances I cannot afford Witopia
anymore but would dearly love to access the sport stations from the BBC.



Was just wondering if anyone knows of a free VPN somewhere that I
could use although I doubt whether such a thing exists.



Regards



Andre






**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane



















Re: free VPN question

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
As I said, Hotspot Shield should do this but then again you may have 
problems with the client, I outlined all this in reply to your first 
eMail in this thread.


On 3/11/2014 3:57 AM, André van Deventer wrote:

In my case I only need one to listen to programs on bbc five live and bbc
five live extra  which you cannot hear outside the UK.  So the bbc server
actually thinks that you are connecting from inside the UK.  I haven't found
any other way to do this than using a VPN like witopia.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 02 November 2014 03:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN question

a VPn ins a Virtual Private Network, in other words a virtual tunnel on the
Internet between your computer ahd the other computer, VPN'S are commonly
used in those situations where sensitive data is exchanged between point A
and point B, vinancial transactions and the like - someone I know who works
from home as a Finance Manager uses a VPN from his home to contact and do
his work for example -.

This means obviously that you can use a VPN to have your computer simulate
another in a place far from where you are, you can establish a VPN between
you and a VPN server in Longbeach California thus when you play a stream
originating from Longbeach California which may have geoblocking
restrictions in place which will be ignored given that the streamer thinks
you're in Longbeach.

Having said all that however one needs to put some thought into the type of
VPN used, there are protocols in use which are more secure than others, some
VPN services offer unlimited VPN plans whilst others do not, I explained
some of this in my initial response to the original eMail in this thread.


On 2/11/2014 11:45 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Someone please:
What is VPN, what does it do, and why would one want and use it?
Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message -
From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: free VPN


Dane

I will not voluntarily change from witopia.  Just like you I have
found them excellent and really have no complaints about the service at

all.

But the circumstanc3es are unfortunately beyond my control.

And the thing is that the only reason I would use it is to listen to
the bbc!!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: 01 November 2014 11:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: free VPN

Before I started using Witopia I did use Hotspot Shield but bare in
mind that it places ads on your desktop and this can make access tools
such as Screen readers behave unpredictably at times.

Also note that you have to renew the connection after an hour.

The last time I used Hotspot shield I couldn't access the list of
countries through the client though this may have changed.

I'm talking about the free Hotspot Shield of course and not the paid one.

I'm sorry to hear that you're unable to use Witopia due to your
circumstances, I've tried plenty of VPN providers in the past ad I
would have to say that Witopia is about as good as I've found that you
can get,
24/7 live tech support, extensive tutorials and guides on setting up
your VPN, unlimited data transfer and so it goes, I have the Pro
account and I pay around $60 a year I think it is, there's a cheaper
account for $35 a year though it has limitations and I'm not sure
exactly what those are as I write this but you can find all the
details at http://www.witopia.net http://www.witopia.net/



On 1 Nov 2014, at 8:25 pm, André van Deventer
andred...@webafrica.org.za

wrote:

Hi all



For a few years now I have been using Witopia as a VPN service  to
enable me to listen to bbc radio five live and five live extra for
especially rugby union and grand prix action.  These broadcasts were
often not available outside the UK so you needed a VPN to listen to them.



Unfortunately due to financial circumstances I cannot afford Witopia
anymore but would dearly love to access the sport stations from the BBC.



Was just wondering if anyone knows of a free VPN somewhere that I
could use although I doubt whether such a thing exists.



Regards



Andre






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Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, I've been playing with Windows Media Player for the last half hour 
or so and I'm using NVDA on the Windows Desktop computer here, I'm 
running Windows media Player 12 with Windows 7 Home Premium.


Yes, the software is certainly accessible though finding your way around 
Winodws Media player could be a little challenging at times I admit, the 
trick is to think outside the square, in other words don't assume that 
everything you want is in the menu bar because it isn't, you can make 
things a little easier by changing some of the options in the view menu.


Anyway to get back to the specific topic of Ripping CD'S with WMP, this 
link may be of some use.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/windows/rip-music-faq#1TC=windows-7

On 3/11/2014 3:42 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work differently than Windows 
Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows Media 12
- think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 11 was good; 
I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried to use the version of 
Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't quite so intuitive...at least not 
for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while ago, I 
answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at the time that there’s 
probably an even better answer built right into Windows itself which I assume 
the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last tried it - was 
very accessible indeed.

I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone else on list 
suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, I've just thought of another free CD Ripping solution and I'm 
surprised its taken me this long to mention VLC as that's my favourite 
media player.


I've not given the Ripper feature any thought up till now but - given 
that VLC is fully accessible - I can't see any reason why the Ripping 
function wouldn't work, follow the link below for instructions.

http://www.aimersoft.com/rip-dvd/vlc-rip-cd.html

On 3/11/2014 3:42 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work differently than Windows 
Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows Media 12
- think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 11 was good; 
I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried to use the version of 
Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't quite so intuitive...at least not 
for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while ago, I 
answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at the time that there’s 
probably an even better answer built right into Windows itself which I assume 
the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last tried it - was 
very accessible indeed.

I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone else on list 
suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane














Answering calls on the mac.

2014-11-02 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have found that you can not use a bluetooth headset or a headset like the 
logitech h800 with its own transmitter when taking calls on the mac.
You have to use the built-in microphone  or the mic input and headphones input 
on your mac to make it work properly.
/A


Re: Victor Reader Stream

2014-11-02 Thread Gary Schindler
I don't know of any portable players that support flac files personally. Not 
all M3U or PLS files will work on the Bookports or Plextalk machines, so it 
it a matter of trial and error!



-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 2:43 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream

to be clear, the BPP portable unit times out on streams that do not
play.  It seems the unit described was the desktop version.  While the
BPP has no list of stations like the new generation Stream, one can go
to Shoutcast and TuneIn and download M3u or PLS files of the streams
and copy them to the unit.

Many say the recorder on the BPP is clearly superior to the one on the
new generation Stream.  Dane is insistent though that he must have
support for FLAC files.

Kelly



On 11/1/14, Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net wrote:

Ad for the Victor StreamNew Generation, I like the one I have.

It works for most every kind of stream except flash. I was surprised to
learn the player supports AAC streams, which the Plextalk and APH units
don't and probably never will.

If the stream doesn't play, it will say something like, stream failed to
start, by the same token however,  The Plextalk and Aph players get locked
up when the stream won't play, so you have to fiddle with it or get
disgusted with it enough that you remove the battery and Wait a few 
minutes


so you can start the players again. It is not always feasible to carry a
little screwdriver with you to take the battery out of the Bookport
Desktop.
!

-Original Message-
From: Aidan
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 5:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream

Works well with most networks, providing they don't use a web
interface, and support the most commin radio streams. You can read the
manual from the humanware site or press and hold key one to read as
you would with the older model.

On 31/10/2014, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

Okay I'm swallowing my pride, I've ordered a victor Reader Stream -
current
model, I have one of the older versions which I really should put in the
recycle bin without any further ado -.

So, I know many of you have these devices, is there anything I should
look
for in particular? Are their any features or functions that are really
useful or that you really like? How well does the Internet radio work?

Of course the only thing that might annoy me is the fact that I probably
won't be able to get the Stream going behind my VPN? Well I'm going on
assumption at the moment smile.


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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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Re: Answering calls on the mac.

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Its an issue I never investigated to be honest because I have other ways of 
answering calls on the Mac than using the controls on that headset which are 
rather hard to press, I assigned various keyboard shortcuts on the Mac to 
answer calls in Skype for example, its usual that - if I’m taking calls on the 
computer that I’m usually sitting in front of the keyboard and thus the freedom 
of the H800 headset will then allow me to move about -.

As I’ve said before, the H800 isn’t a bad headset but in many ways it has a lot 
to be desired, build quality being one of those.

I’ve got some time so I’ll look up the headset in Google to see if there are 
any other stuff about controls.


 On 3 Nov 2014, at 9:15 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have found that you can not use a bluetooth headset or a headset like the 
 logitech h800 with its own transmitter when taking calls on the mac.
 You have to use the built-in microphone  or the mic input and headphones 
 input on your mac to make it work properly.
 /A

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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Re: Answering calls on the mac.

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, I've been up on the Logitech Support page for the h800 wireless 
headset and there are a couple of downloads for the Mac which may help 
you, one of which is a Bluetooth Pairing utility which may enable you to 
use the Anser button? I honestly don't know so have a look at 
http://support.logitech.com/en_au/product/8567#download and see how 
you get on.


On 3/11/2014 9:15 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I have found that you can not use a bluetooth headset or a headset like the 
logitech h800 with its own transmitter when taking calls on the mac.
You have to use the built-in microphone  or the mic input and headphones input 
on your mac to make it work properly.
/A





bossjock studio | Podcast from iOS, no PC needed.

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hi!

The link below takes you to the page of the DJ software I use for IOS, 
I've mentioned BossJock Studio here at different times.


If you have an IOS device and you want to do DJ work, set up live 
streams on the Internet or just want a super and flexible recorder then 
its really worth having a look at this App, given that the App - as I 
remember it - is under $10 its certainly wroth the investment, far 
better than paying hundreds for them other Apps smile.

http://bossjockstudio.com/




Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Robert Byers


I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
I now use Nero.

On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Curiosity now has the better of me so I’ll take a look for myself, been a long 
while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.


On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work differently than Windows 
Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows Media 12
- think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 11 was good; 
I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried to use the version of 
Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't quite so intuitive...at least not 
for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while ago, I 
answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at the time that there’s 
probably an even better answer built right into Windows itself which I assume 
the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last tried it - was 
very accessible indeed.

I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone else on list 
suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane












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grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
I did post a link to the help center which should help you with Windows 
Media Player.


So you use Nero? Heaven help you smile, that is reall ythe worst 
Ripper around, it used to be quite reasonable but it just doesn't read 
CD'S properly, nor do most of the other free CD Ripping solutions out 
there to be honest, the only one which does is Exact Audio Copy still.


.

On 3/11/2014 1:56 PM, Robert Byers wrote:


I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
I now use Nero.

On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Curiosity now has the better of me so I’ll take a look for myself, 
been a long while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.



On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work 
differently than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 
11 waas!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows 
Media 12

- think it is now - with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 
11 was good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried 
to use the version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't 
quite so intuitive...at least not for me!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while 
ago, I answered with iTunes though of course I didn’t realise at 
the time that there’s probably an even better answer built right 
into Windows itself which I assume the questioner was using.


The answer of course is Windows Media Player which - when I last 
tried it - was very accessible indeed.


I didn’t follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone 
else on list suggested Windows Media Player anyway.


**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane












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grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread PETER Scanlon
Nero is really very good.
I found Exact Audio Copy awkward.



- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software



 I did post a link to the help center which should help you with Windows 
 Media Player.
 
 So you use Nero? Heaven help you smile, that is reall ythe worst 
 Ripper around, it used to be quite reasonable but it just doesn't read 
 CD's properly, nor do most of the other free CD Ripping solutions out 
 there to be honest, the only one which does is Exact Audio Copy still.
 
 ..
 
 On 3/11/2014 1:56 PM, Robert Byers wrote:
 
  I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
  I now use Nero.
 
  On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
  Curiosity now has the better of me so I'll take a look for myself, 
  been a long while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.
 
  On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work 
  differently than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as 
  11 waas!
  Tom Kaufman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software
 
  Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows 
  Media 12
  — think it is now — with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it
  comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
  extensively and no other.
 
  On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
  I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media 
  11 was good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried 
  to use the version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't 
  quite so intuitive...at least not for me!
  Tom Kaufman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software
 
  Hi!
 
  Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while 
  ago, I answered with iTunes though of course I didn't realise at 
  the time that there's probably an even better answer built right 
  into Windows itself which I assume the questioner was using.
 
  The answer of course is Windows Media Player which — when I last 
  tried it — was very accessible indeed.
 
  I didn't follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone 
  else on list suggested Windows Media Player anyway.
 
  **
 
  Dane Trethowan
  grtd...@internode.on.net
  Skype: greatdane12
  Phone US (213) 438-9741
  Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
  Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
  Mobile: +61400494862
  faceTime +61400494862
  Fax +61397437954
  Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  **
 
  Dane Trethowan
  grtd...@internode.on.net
  Skype: greatdane12
  Phone US (213) 438-9741
  Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
  Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
  Mobile: +61400494862
  faceTime +61400494862
  Fax +61397437954
  Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From my Braille Sense.
 



Re: bossjock studio | Podcast from iOS, no PC needed.

2014-11-02 Thread tim cumings
Dane, the other thing you failed to mention is that with boss jock you 
can disable the iphne filtering to get a recording with much better 
fidelity thatn standard recordings.


On 11/2/2014 9:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

The link below takes you to the page of the DJ software I use for IOS, 
I've mentioned BossJock Studio here at different times.


If you have an IOS device and you want to do DJ work, set up live 
streams on the Internet or just want a super and flexible recorder 
then its really worth having a look at this App, given that the App - 
as I remember it - is under $10 its certainly wroth the investment, 
far better than paying hundreds for them other Apps smile.

http://bossjockstudio.com/








Re: bossjock studio | Podcast from iOS, no PC needed.

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan

Yes, I did fail to mention that and thank you for noting this.

Actually the microphone in the iPhone does possess some very good 
quality characteristics which can be shown, this is useful for those 
making their first recording and who don't yet have an external 
microphone of some sort - most iPhone users in other words smile -.


On 3/11/2014 2:59 PM, tim cumings wrote:
Dane, the other thing you failed to mention is that with boss jock you 
can disable the iphne filtering to get a recording with much better 
fidelity thatn standard recordings.


On 11/2/2014 9:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

The link below takes you to the page of the DJ software I use for 
IOS, I've mentioned BossJock Studio here at different times.


If you have an IOS device and you want to do DJ work, set up live 
streams on the Internet or just want a super and flexible recorder 
then its really worth having a look at this App, given that the App - 
as I remember it - is under $10 its certainly wroth the investment, 
far better than paying hundreds for them other Apps smile.

http://bossjockstudio.com/











Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
I sggest the reason you find Exact Audio Copy that way is that you don't 
bother setting it up correctly? smile.


On 3/11/2014 2:33 PM, PETER Scanlon wrote:

Nero is really very good.
I found Exact Audio Copy awkward.



- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software



I did post a link to the help center which should help you with Windows
Media Player.

So you use Nero? Heaven help you smile, that is reall ythe worst
Ripper around, it used to be quite reasonable but it just doesn't read
CD's properly, nor do most of the other free CD Ripping solutions out
there to be honest, the only one which does is Exact Audio Copy still.

..

On 3/11/2014 1:56 PM, Robert Byers wrote:

I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
I now use Nero.

On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Curiosity now has the better of me so I'll take a look for myself,
been a long while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.


On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work
differently than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as
11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows
Media 12
— think it is now — with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when it
comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media
11 was good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried
to use the version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't
quite so intuitive...at least not for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while
ago, I answered with iTunes though of course I didn't realise at
the time that there's probably an even better answer built right
into Windows itself which I assume the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which — when I last
tried it — was very accessible indeed.

I didn't follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone
else on list suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
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Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hep, subject line says everything and this may be round the corner.

I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
to do so as yet and I respect that.


It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
see just how accessible they can make it.


The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay for 
the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for the 
laternative.


Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
than 10 years so they know their stuff.


I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
release smile.






Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Peter Scanlon

Well which particular settings should I change?
Or is there a tutorial somewhere I can listen to?


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:18 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

I sggest the reason you find Exact Audio Copy that way is that you don't
bother setting it up correctly? smile.

On 3/11/2014 2:33 PM, PETER Scanlon wrote:

Nero is really very good.
I found Exact Audio Copy awkward.



- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software



I did post a link to the help center which should help you with Windows
Media Player.

So you use Nero? Heaven help you smile, that is reall ythe worst
Ripper around, it used to be quite reasonable but it just doesn't read
CD's properly, nor do most of the other free CD Ripping solutions out
there to be honest, the only one which does is Exact Audio Copy still.

..

On 3/11/2014 1:56 PM, Robert Byers wrote:

I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
I now use Nero.

On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Curiosity now has the better of me so I'll take a look for myself,
been a long while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.


On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work
differently than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as
11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows
Media 12
— think it is now — with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise when 
it

comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media
11 was good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried
to use the version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't
quite so intuitive...at least not for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while
ago, I answered with iTunes though of course I didn't realise at
the time that there's probably an even better answer built right
into Windows itself which I assume the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which — when I last
tried it — was very accessible indeed.

I didn't follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone
else on list suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane










**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane









 From my Braille Sense.






Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan

Google is your friend, there's heaps of stuff out there.

On 3/11/2014 5:27 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

Well which particular settings should I change?
Or is there a tutorial somewhere I can listen to?


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:18 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

I sggest the reason you find Exact Audio Copy that way is that you don't
bother setting it up correctly? smile.

On 3/11/2014 2:33 PM, PETER Scanlon wrote:

Nero is really very good.
I found Exact Audio Copy awkward.



- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software



I did post a link to the help center which should help you with Windows
Media Player.

So you use Nero? Heaven help you smile, that is reall ythe worst
Ripper around, it used to be quite reasonable but it just doesn't read
CD's properly, nor do most of the other free CD Ripping solutions out
there to be honest, the only one which does is Exact Audio Copy still.

..

On 3/11/2014 1:56 PM, Robert Byers wrote:

I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
I now use Nero.

On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Curiosity now has the better of me so I'll take a look for myself,
been a long while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.


On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work
differently than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as
11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows
Media 12
— think it is now — with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise 
when it

comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media
11 was good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried
to use the version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't
quite so intuitive...at least not for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while
ago, I answered with iTunes though of course I didn't realise at
the time that there's probably an even better answer built right
into Windows itself which I assume the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which — when I last
tried it — was very accessible indeed.

I didn't follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone
else on list suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane










**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane









 From my Braille Sense.









Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Peter Scanlon
I look forward to this. 
I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made accessible.




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:27 PM 
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist 


Hep, subject line says everything and this may be round the corner.

I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
to do so as yet and I respect that.


It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
see just how accessible they can make it.


The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay for 
the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for the 
laternative.


Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
than 10 years so they know their stuff.


I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
release smile.






Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Sunshine

can you keep me up todate on this?
On 11/3/2014 12:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hep, subject line says everything and this may be round the corner.

I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
to do so as yet and I respect that.


It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
see just how accessible they can make it.


The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
the laternative.


Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
than 10 years so they know their stuff.


I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
release smile.













Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language 
it was written in.


I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - 
it did require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least 
did have most of the tools for that.



On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made 
accessible.




-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, November 
03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Alternative 
Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

Hep, subject line says everything and this may be round the corner.

I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
to do so as yet and I respect that.


It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
see just how accessible they can make it.


The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
the laternative.


Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
than 10 years so they know their stuff.


I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
release smile.









RE: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Brian Hartgen
I really look forward to seeing what they come up with. With SPL and scripting, 
blind users have a tonne of features which go way over and above what SPL can 
do out of the box, so there are going to have to be many many compelling 
benefits in order to switch.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 03 November 2014 06:49
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it was 
written in.

I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it did 
require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did have most 
of the tools for that.


On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made 
 accessible.



 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, November 
 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Alternative 
 Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject line says 
 everything and this may be round the corner.

 I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
 however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
 to do so as yet and I respect that.

 It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
 soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
 see just how accessible they can make it.

 The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
 for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
 the laternative.

 Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
 Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
 than 10 years so they know their stuff.

 I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
 weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
 release smile.








Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, my Friend Google smile came up with the following for you, its 
been a while since I've looked at this page but it is a good place to 
start for information on Exact Audio Copy.

http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Exact_Audio_Copy

On 3/11/2014 5:27 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

Well which particular settings should I change?
Or is there a tutorial somewhere I can listen to?


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:18 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

I sggest the reason you find Exact Audio Copy that way is that you don't
bother setting it up correctly? smile.

On 3/11/2014 2:33 PM, PETER Scanlon wrote:

Nero is really very good.
I found Exact Audio Copy awkward.



- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software



I did post a link to the help center which should help you with Windows
Media Player.

So you use Nero? Heaven help you smile, that is reall ythe worst
Ripper around, it used to be quite reasonable but it just doesn't read
CD's properly, nor do most of the other free CD Ripping solutions out
there to be honest, the only one which does is Exact Audio Copy still.

..

On 3/11/2014 1:56 PM, Robert Byers wrote:

I use to burn with it, in version 11, but can't get to work in 12.
I now use Nero.

On 3/11/2014 3:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Curiosity now has the better of me so I'll take a look for myself,
been a long while since I myself have had a look at the Media Player.


On 3 Nov 2014, at 3:42 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

Well that was my experience (Windows Media 12 does seem to work
differently than Windows Media 11 (doesn't seem as cut and dry as
11 waas!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Interesting to hear you say that, I know others who use Windows
Media 12
— think it is now — with Windows 7 and I've not heard any noise 
when it

comes to accessibility issues etc, I know people who use this
extensively and no other.

On 2/11/2014 7:55 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I'm not too sure about Windows Media Player anymore (Windows Media
11 was good; I used to use it) but when I got Windows 7 and tried
to use the version of Windows Media there (think its 12) it wasn't
quite so intuitive...at least not for me!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Follow-up: Free CD Ripping Software

Hi!

Someone on list asked about free CD Ripping Software a little while
ago, I answered with iTunes though of course I didn't realise at
the time that there's probably an even better answer built right
into Windows itself which I assume the questioner was using.

The answer of course is Windows Media Player which — when I last
tried it — was very accessible indeed.

I didn't follow the conversation at the time so perhaps someone
else on list suggested Windows Media Player anyway.

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane










**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: greatdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane









 From my Braille Sense.









Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Johny Cassidy
Price sounds compelling enough. 

@johnycassidy

 On 3 Nov 2014, at 07:01, Brian Hartgen j...@hartgen.org wrote:
 
 I really look forward to seeing what they come up with. With SPL and 
 scripting, blind users have a tonne of features which go way over and above 
 what SPL can do out of the box, so there are going to have to be many many 
 compelling benefits in order to switch.
 
 Brian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: 03 November 2014 06:49
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist
 
 I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
 Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it 
 was written in.
 
 I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it 
 did require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did 
 have most of the tools for that.
 
 
 On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made 
 accessible.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, November 
 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Alternative 
 Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject line says 
 everything and this may be round the corner.
 
 I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
 however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
 to do so as yet and I respect that.
 
 It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
 soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
 see just how accessible they can make it.
 
 The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
 for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
 the laternative.
 
 Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
 Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
 than 10 years so they know their stuff.
 
 I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
 weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
 release smile.
 
 
 



RE: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
SAM Encoders: major screen readers have scripts for it (I'm responsible for one 
of them). As for it becoming accessible, I don't think so.
As for the new kid on the block, I sent a message to developers to see if NVDA 
users and devs can assist them with compatibility and testing. Based on some 
testing, it appears both SPL and the new kid is written in Delphi and uses 
slightly more accessible GUI framework (TDK to be exact), although certain 
fields doesn't have any labels at all (the new guy does need scripting in the 
end).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it was 
written in.

I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it did 
require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did have most 
of the tools for that.


On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made 
 accessible.



 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, November 
 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Alternative 
 Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject line says 
 everything and this may be round the corner.

 I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
 however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
 to do so as yet and I respect that.

 It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
 soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
 see just how accessible they can make it.

 The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
 for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
 the laternative.

 Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
 Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
 than 10 years so they know their stuff.

 I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
 weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
 release smile.








Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Unless of course there's beta stuff floating around with further 
accessibility tweaks?


On 3/11/2014 6:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
SAM Encoders: major screen readers have scripts for it (I'm responsible for one 
of them). As for it becoming accessible, I don't think so.
As for the new kid on the block, I sent a message to developers to see if NVDA 
users and devs can assist them with compatibility and testing. Based on some 
testing, it appears both SPL and the new kid is written in Delphi and uses 
slightly more accessible GUI framework (TDK to be exact), although certain 
fields doesn't have any labels at all (the new guy does need scripting in the 
end).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it was 
written in.

I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it did 
require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did have most 
of the tools for that.


On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made
accessible.



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, November
03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Alternative
Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject line says
everything and this may be round the corner.

I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list
however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission
to do so as yet and I respect that.

It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility
soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to
see just how accessible they can make it.

The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay
for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for
the laternative.

Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and
Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer
than 10 years so they know their stuff.

I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of
weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press
release smile.











RE: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi Brian and all,
I'm testing the latest version of the new kid and it does require scripting to 
some extent. It is written in Delphi and uses TDK GUI framework. At this point, 
there's no indication as to whether the mic is on or off, some fields are not 
labeled, important functions don't have hotkeys and so on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:01 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

I really look forward to seeing what they come up with. With SPL and scripting, 
blind users have a tonne of features which go way over and above what SPL can 
do out of the box, so there are going to have to be many many compelling 
benefits in order to switch.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 03 November 2014 06:49
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it was 
written in.

I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it did 
require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did have most 
of the tools for that.


On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made 
 accessible.



 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, November 
 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Alternative 
 Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject line says 
 everything and this may be round the corner.

 I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
 however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me permission 
 to do so as yet and I respect that.

 It is hoped that the product will be available with full accessibility 
 soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test their product to 
 see just how accessible they can make it.

 The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
 for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
 the laternative.

 Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
 Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
 than 10 years so they know their stuff.

 I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple of 
 weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
 release smile.









RE: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Beta of the new kid is more accessible - buttons are properly labeled, yet a 
few issues (some major ones) remain (if only scripters can access the API...).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

Unless of course there's beta stuff floating around with further accessibility 
tweaks?

On 3/11/2014 6:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
 Hi,
 SAM Encoders: major screen readers have scripts for it (I'm responsible for 
 one of them). As for it becoming accessible, I don't think so.
 As for the new kid on the block, I sent a message to developers to see if 
 NVDA users and devs can assist them with compatibility and testing. Based on 
 some testing, it appears both SPL and the new kid is written in Delphi and 
 uses slightly more accessible GUI framework (TDK to be exact), although 
 certain fields doesn't have any labels at all (the new guy does need 
 scripting in the end).
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:49 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

 I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
 Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it 
 was written in.

 I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it 
 did require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did 
 have most of the tools for that.


 On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made 
 accessible.



 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, 
 November 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: 
 Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject 
 line says everything and this may be round the corner.

 I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list 
 however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me 
 permission to do so as yet and I respect that.

 It is hoped that the product will be available with full 
 accessibility soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test 
 their product to see just how accessible they can make it.

 The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay 
 for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for 
 the laternative.

 Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and 
 Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer 
 than 10 years so they know their stuff.

 I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple 
 of weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press 
 release smile.










Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

2014-11-02 Thread Sunshine
Joseph, could you email me off list i would love to test this new 
broadcasting kit out and give accessibility feedback let me know how to 
get incontact with the developer of the software please? tahnks.


On 11/3/2014 1:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Beta of the new kid is more accessible - buttons are properly labeled, yet a 
few issues (some major ones) remain (if only scripters can access the API...).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

Unless of course there's beta stuff floating around with further accessibility 
tweaks?

On 3/11/2014 6:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
SAM Encoders: major screen readers have scripts for it (I'm responsible for one 
of them). As for it becoming accessible, I don't think so.
As for the new kid on the block, I sent a message to developers to see if NVDA 
users and devs can assist them with compatibility and testing. Based on some 
testing, it appears both SPL and the new kid is written in Delphi and uses 
slightly more accessible GUI framework (TDK to be exact), although certain 
fields doesn't have any labels at all (the new guy does need scripting in the 
end).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist

I'm not a programmer myself so can't comment but - last I heard - SAM 
Broadcaster couldn't be made accessible due to the programming language it was 
written in.

I did myself use SAM Broadcaster for quite a hwile - even at that time - it did 
require some skill at mouse manipulation but Window-Eyes at least did have most 
of the tools for that.


On 3/11/2014 5:45 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

I look forward to this. I'd also like to see Sam Broadcaster made
accessible.



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday,
November 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject:
Alternative Broadcasting Software to Station Playlist Hep, subject
line says everything and this may be round the corner.

I wanted to forward the original eMail on this subject to the list
however the author of same - as it stands - hasn't given me
permission to do so as yet and I respect that.

It is hoped that the product will be available with full
accessibility soon, the developers are actually using JAWS to test
their product to see just how accessible they can make it.

The other good news will be the price, instead of $499 that you pay
for the full Station Playlist suite you'll only need to pay $199 for
the laternative.

Those who are helping the programmers are professional DJ'S and
Broadcasters in their own right having worked in the field for longer
than 10 years so they know their stuff.

I hope to be able to bring the list good tidings in the next couple
of weeks though someone else may beat me to it by forwarding a press
release smile.