Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes, true.
But i am out of money so i have to have them for a while.
/A
> 5 jan. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Yes the Extreme does but the Express doesn’t, one handles audio and the other 
> doesn’t but regardless of all that, Apple don’t even make them any more.
> 
>> On 6 Jan 2017, at 1:19 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Oh, thats nice.
>> But i still enjoy my airport devices.
>> The extreme i have has ac support.
>> /A
>>> 4 jan. 2017 kl. 04:23 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>>> 
>>> Yes, that problem hit me fair and square when I removed my Airport Express 
>>> but I found a way around it and I’m glad you mentioned this as I had 
>>> intended to dedicate a post to this problem.
>>> All one has to do to stream Apple Music to a Chromecast is to use the 
>>> Airfoil App, both Windows and Mac versions recognise the Chromecast.
>>> There are other options as well but Airfoil is by far the easiest and most 
>>> configurable.
>>> 
 On 4 Jan 2017, at 2:14 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, 
 it's not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple 
 unfortunately. 
 Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's 
 just that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac 
 running iTunes. Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still 
 have my airport expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  
> wrote:
> 
> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been 
> using for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the 
> newer generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express 
> generation to be made.
> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi 
> trends or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi 
> AAC for example which is a huge step forward.
> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router 
> however what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally 
> eclipsed by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and 
> IOS, I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found 
> the Google Home App easy to navigate.
> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a 
> "Weak Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger 
> signal, well we'll find out later today just how robust the connection 
> really is when I put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation 
> of the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port 
> which is capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the 
> Chromecast were only an analogue output device then I would never have 
> considered purchasing one.
> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite 
> sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast 
> Audio to my new MM1 Speakers.
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks 
> are the solution.
> 
> 
> 
 
 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes the Extreme does but the Express doesn’t, one handles audio and the other 
doesn’t but regardless of all that, Apple don’t even make them any more.

> On 6 Jan 2017, at 1:19 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Oh, thats nice.
> But i still enjoy my airport devices.
> The extreme i have has ac support.
> /A
>> 4 jan. 2017 kl. 04:23 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> Yes, that problem hit me fair and square when I removed my Airport Express 
>> but I found a way around it and I’m glad you mentioned this as I had 
>> intended to dedicate a post to this problem.
>> All one has to do to stream Apple Music to a Chromecast is to use the 
>> Airfoil App, both Windows and Mac versions recognise the Chromecast.
>> There are other options as well but Airfoil is by far the easiest and most 
>> configurable.
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 2:14 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, 
>>> it's not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple unfortunately. 
>>> Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's just 
>>> that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac running 
>>> iTunes. Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still have my 
>>> airport expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
 Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been 
 using for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
 I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the 
 newer generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express 
 generation to be made.
 Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi 
 trends or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi 
 AAC for example which is a huge step forward.
 Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router 
 however what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally 
 eclipsed by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
 So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
 streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
 Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and 
 IOS, I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the 
 Google Home App easy to navigate.
 Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
 Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a 
 "Weak Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger 
 signal, well we'll find out later today just how robust the connection 
 really is when I put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
 The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation 
 of the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port 
 which is capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the 
 Chromecast were only an analogue output device then I would never have 
 considered purchasing one.
 I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
 excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite 
 sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
 Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast 
 Audio to my new MM1 Speakers.
 
 
 **
 
 Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks 
 are the solution.
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Oh, thats nice.
But i still enjoy my airport devices.
The extreme i have has ac support.
/A
> 4 jan. 2017 kl. 04:23 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Yes, that problem hit me fair and square when I removed my Airport Express 
> but I found a way around it and I’m glad you mentioned this as I had intended 
> to dedicate a post to this problem.
> All one has to do to stream Apple Music to a Chromecast is to use the Airfoil 
> App, both Windows and Mac versions recognise the Chromecast.
> There are other options as well but Airfoil is by far the easiest and most 
> configurable.
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 2:14 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, 
>> it's not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple unfortunately. 
>> Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's just 
>> that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac running 
>> iTunes. Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still have my 
>> airport expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using 
>>> for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
>>> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer 
>>> generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express 
>>> generation to be made.
>>> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends 
>>> or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for 
>>> example which is a huge step forward.
>>> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router 
>>> however what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally 
>>> eclipsed by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
>>> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
>>> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
>>> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS, 
>>> I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the 
>>> Google Home App easy to navigate.
>>> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
>>> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak 
>>> Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, 
>>> well we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is 
>>> when I put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
>>> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation 
>>> of the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port 
>>> which is capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the 
>>> Chromecast were only an analogue output device then I would never have 
>>> considered purchasing one.
>>> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
>>> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite 
>>> sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
>>> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio 
>>> to my new MM1 Speakers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks 
>>> are the solution.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Anders Holmberg]

Good for you then who uses spotify.
We who uses apple music can’t use the chromecast unless there’s a way to use 
foobar2000 with the chromecast on the iphone.
But that’s my problem.

/A
> 4 jan. 2017 kl. 03:03 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using 
> for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer 
> generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express generation 
> to be made.
> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends 
> or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for 
> example which is a huge step forward.
> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router however 
> what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally eclipsed by 
> other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS, I 
> used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the Google 
> Home App easy to navigate.
> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak 
> Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, well 
> we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is when I 
> put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation of 
> the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port which is 
> capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the Chromecast were 
> only an analogue output device then I would never have considered purchasing 
> one.
> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite sure 
> I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio 
> to my new MM1 Speakers.
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks are 
> the solution.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Dane Trethowan]

Thanks for the correction, saves typing .

> On 4 Jan 2017, at 10:38 pm, Brian Olesen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dane
> It's just AC by the way. Grin
> Good luck with your new unit.
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 4. januar 2017 03:03
> Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Emne: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one
> 
> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using
> for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer
> generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express generation
> to be made.
> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends
> or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for
> example which is a huge step forward.
> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router however
> what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally eclipsed
> by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio
> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS,
> I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the Google
> Home App easy to navigate.
> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast
> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak
> Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, well
> we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is when I
> put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation of
> the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port which is
> capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the Chromecast
> were only an analogue output device then I would never have considered
> purchasing one.
> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents
> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite
> sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the
> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio
> to my new MM1 Speakers.
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks
> are the solution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

SV: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Brian Olesen]

Hi Dane
It's just AC by the way. Grin
Good luck with your new unit.
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane
Trethowan
Sendt: 4. januar 2017 03:03
Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Emne: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using
for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer
generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express generation
to be made.
Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends
or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for
example which is a huge step forward.
Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router however
what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally eclipsed
by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio
streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS,
I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the Google
Home App easy to navigate.
Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast
Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak
Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, well
we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is when I
put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation of
the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port which is
capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the Chromecast
were only an analogue output device then I would never have considered
purchasing one.
I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents
excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite
sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the
Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio
to my new MM1 Speakers.


**

Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks
are the solution.

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Dane Trethowan]

No Airfoil for iPhone or Android devices, just Airfoil Satellite - if you have 
a Windows Pc or Mac with Airfoil you can transmit to an IOS or Android device 
running Airfoil Satellite.

> On 4 Jan 2017, at 3:50 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the tip. I haven't used airfoil in ages. I was a devoted airfoil 
> user. Then airplay came along. And I migrated. But what about from your eye 
> devices, such as phones or iPads? I guess there isn't an airfoil for the 
> iPhone is there? I've never heard of it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that problem hit me fair and square when I removed my Airport Express 
>> but I found a way around it and I’m glad you mentioned this as I had 
>> intended to dedicate a post to this problem.
>> All one has to do to stream Apple Music to a Chromecast is to use the 
>> Airfoil App, both Windows and Mac versions recognise the Chromecast.
>> There are other options as well but Airfoil is by far the easiest and most 
>> configurable.
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 2:14 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, 
>>> it's not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple unfortunately. 
>>> Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's just 
>>> that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac running 
>>> iTunes. Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still have my 
>>> airport expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
 Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been 
 using for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
 I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the 
 newer generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express 
 generation to be made.
 Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi 
 trends or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi 
 AAC for example which is a huge step forward.
 Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router 
 however what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally 
 eclipsed by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
 So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
 streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
 Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and 
 IOS, I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the 
 Google Home App easy to navigate.
 Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
 Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a 
 "Weak Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger 
 signal, well we'll find out later today just how robust the connection 
 really is when I put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
 The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation 
 of the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port 
 which is capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the 
 Chromecast were only an analogue output device then I would never have 
 considered purchasing one.
 I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
 excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite 
 sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
 Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast 
 Audio to my new MM1 Speakers.
 
 
 **
 
 Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks 
 are the solution.
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Mary Otten]

Thanks for the tip. I haven't used airfoil in ages. I was a devoted airfoil 
user. Then airplay came along. And I migrated. But what about from your eye 
devices, such as phones or iPads? I guess there isn't an airfoil for the iPhone 
is there? I've never heard of it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that problem hit me fair and square when I removed my Airport Express 
> but I found a way around it and I’m glad you mentioned this as I had intended 
> to dedicate a post to this problem.
> All one has to do to stream Apple Music to a Chromecast is to use the Airfoil 
> App, both Windows and Mac versions recognise the Chromecast.
> There are other options as well but Airfoil is by far the easiest and most 
> configurable.
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 2:14 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, 
>> it's not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple unfortunately. 
>> Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's just 
>> that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac running 
>> iTunes. Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still have my 
>> airport expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using 
>>> for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
>>> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer 
>>> generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express 
>>> generation to be made.
>>> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends 
>>> or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for 
>>> example which is a huge step forward.
>>> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router 
>>> however what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally 
>>> eclipsed by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
>>> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
>>> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
>>> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS, 
>>> I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the 
>>> Google Home App easy to navigate.
>>> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
>>> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak 
>>> Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, 
>>> well we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is 
>>> when I put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
>>> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation 
>>> of the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port 
>>> which is capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the 
>>> Chromecast were only an analogue output device then I would never have 
>>> considered purchasing one.
>>> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
>>> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite 
>>> sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
>>> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio 
>>> to my new MM1 Speakers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks 
>>> are the solution.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes, that problem hit me fair and square when I removed my Airport Express but 
I found a way around it and I’m glad you mentioned this as I had intended to 
dedicate a post to this problem.
All one has to do to stream Apple Music to a Chromecast is to use the Airfoil 
App, both Windows and Mac versions recognise the Chromecast.
There are other options as well but Airfoil is by far the easiest and most 
configurable.

> On 4 Jan 2017, at 2:14 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, 
> it's not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple unfortunately. 
> Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's just 
> that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac running 
> iTunes. Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still have my 
> airport expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using 
>> for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
>> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer 
>> generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express generation 
>> to be made.
>> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends 
>> or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for 
>> example which is a huge step forward.
>> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router however 
>> what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally eclipsed 
>> by other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
>> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
>> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
>> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS, 
>> I used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the Google 
>> Home App easy to navigate.
>> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
>> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak 
>> Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, well 
>> we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is when I 
>> put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
>> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation of 
>> the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port which is 
>> capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the Chromecast 
>> were only an analogue output device then I would never have considered 
>> purchasing one.
>> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
>> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite 
>> sure I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
>> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio 
>> to my new MM1 Speakers.
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks 
>> are the solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Mary Otten]

Nice idea. But if you have a Mac and a bunch of music in the Apple cloud, it's 
not practical. You can't Chromecast anything from Apple unfortunately. 
Not that you can't use an Apple device with the Chromecast audio. It's just 
that you can't Chromecast anything from Apple Music or your Mac running iTunes. 
Since that's where a whole lot of my stuff is, I still have my airport 
expresses working fine if a bit old. Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using 
> for so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
> I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer 
> generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express generation 
> to be made.
> Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends 
> or perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for 
> example which is a huge step forward.
> Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router however 
> what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally eclipsed by 
> other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
> So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
> streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
> Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS, I 
> used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the Google 
> Home App easy to navigate.
> Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast 
> Audio is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak 
> Signal" and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, well 
> we'll find out later today just how robust the connection really is when I 
> put the Chromecast Audio through its paces.
> The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation of 
> the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port which is 
> capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the Chromecast were 
> only an analogue output device then I would never have considered purchasing 
> one.
> I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
> excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite sure 
> I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the 
> Chromecast Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio 
> to my new MM1 Speakers.
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks are 
> the solution.
> 
> 
> 

Goodbye to another old and faithful product and time to try a new one

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep, time to say goodbye to the Airport Express units which I've been using for 
so long - well one far longer than the other actually -.
I bought my first Airport Express -first generation - in 2009 and the newer 
generation in 2013 and that's the latest and last Airport Express generation to 
be made.
Unfortunately the Airport Express has not kept up with current Wi-Fi trends or 
perhaps the simple answer is that it can't? We now have Wi-Fi AAC for example 
which is a huge step forward.
Once aupon a not so long ago, I used the Airport Express as a router however 
what the Airport Express was capable of then has now been totally eclipsed by 
other routers from the big names such as Asus and so on.
So what am I using in the place of the Airport Express to receive audio 
streams? The new Google Chromecast Audio which arrived today.
Its simple to set up thanks to the Google Home App on both Android and IOS, I 
used Android for the setup Operating System this time and found the Google Home 
App easy to navigate.
Only thing that does worry me is how good the receiver in the Chromecast Audio 
is as it described the Wi-Fi network I connected to as having a "Weak Signal" 
and I was advised to connect to another with a stronger signal, well we'll find 
out later today just how robust the connection really is when I put the 
Chromecast Audio through its paces.
The Chromecast Audio looks very similar in size to the current generation of 
the Chromecast but instead of a HDMI port it has a 3.5MM audio port which is 
capable of providing both analogue and digital output, if the Chromecast were 
only an analogue output device then I would never have considered purchasing 
one.
I paid $60 Australian for the Chromecast Audio and that to me represents 
excellent value, I don't expect top notch audio for my $60 but I'm quite sure 
I'll get reasonable - if not very decent - audio when I connect the Chromecast 
Audio to my Rotel DAC, I might even connect the Chromecast Audio to my new MM1 
Speakers.


**

Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive outlooks are 
the solution.