Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Thanks, Bob! Well if I don't get a turntable, maybe I'll just hunt around for that tape, and get some kind of cassette to PC type of thing. My brother was asking because he had the vinyl records. I want to copy them for him on CD if I can, but when I do it for myself, I'll put the albums on MP3 CD's. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:29 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines
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Thanks, Gary! But unless someone has converted it to MP3 on a site, I don't know where to look. - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Bruce makes a good point. unless you have a recording that is so rare it is better to buy the album on disc or download the MP3 album and burn the disc. you're only out a couple bucks instead of buying equipment you'll use once or twice. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:29 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Amazon lists all sorts of CD's and MP3 downloadst by Mystic Moods Orchestra. I just looked. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: I would like that, but I checked on line about a couple of record albums from the Mystic Moods orchestra: Namely One Stormy Night and Emotions. I hear they were a group from San Francisco who did these albums in the 60s! And when I found out about those albums, I heard that they never made copies of those albums on CD! They used a lot of interesting sound effects, like thunder in One Stormy Night, and there was also a sound of a train that used the steam engine with the sound I remember before the Diesels. And the emotions album had other kinds of sounds as well! And also the music was good. It was relaxing! But nowhere is there a CD version of those albums, because they never did one. If anyone else wants to check, that's fine, but I think you'll have a dry run, like I did. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
I like to hear music the way ti was recorded, but like Bob said, maybe a lot of changes get made to a recording between the way a record was initially made, and the time you hear it on the radio. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
I would like that, but I checked on line about a couple of record albums from the Mystic Moods orchestra: Namely One Stormy Night and Emotions. I hear they were a group from San Francisco who did these albums in the 60s! And when I found out about those albums, I heard that they never made copies of those albums on CD! They used a lot of interesting sound effects, like thunder in One Stormy Night, and there was also a sound of a train that used the steam engine with the sound I remember before the Diesels. And the emotions album had other kinds of sounds as well! And also the music was good. It was relaxing! But nowhere is there a CD version of those albums, because they never did one. If anyone else wants to check, that's fine, but I think you'll have a dry run, like I did. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:29 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Seeking information on USB turntables
Gary: I had a couple of records recorded by my father in WWII and as they weren 't commercial and could not be replicated, I sent them to a place called deepskyaudio.com and had them duplicated. It was expensive but worth the service. I suggest that you consider this service if these disks are not readily available commercially. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:41 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Thanks, Bob! Well if I don't get a turntable, maybe I'll just hunt around for that tape, and get some kind of cassette to PC type of thing. My brother was asking because he had the vinyl records. I want to copy them for him on CD if I can, but when I do it for myself, I'll put the albums on MP3 CD's. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
I could use Soundforge's noise reduction for those! - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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do you have an old turntable you could plug in to your sound car with a Preamp? this would be better than nothing. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:41 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Thanks, Bob! Well if I don't get a turntable, maybe I'll just hunt around for that tape, and get some kind of cassette to PC type of thing. My brother was asking because he had the vinyl records. I want to copy them for him on CD if I can, but when I do it for myself, I'll put the albums on MP3 CD's. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http
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you could certainly do this. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables I could use Soundforge's noise reduction for those! - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release
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My brother still has one. I don't know how that would work with this computer, though. - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables do you have an old turntable you could plug in to your sound car with a Preamp? this would be better than nothing. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:41 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Thanks, Bob! Well if I don't get a turntable, maybe I'll just hunt around for that tape, and get some kind of cassette to PC type of thing. My brother was asking because he had the vinyl records. I want to copy them for him on CD if I can, but when I do it for myself, I'll put the albums on MP3 CD's. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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give it a try. this is what I still do! - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables My brother still has one. I don't know how that would work with this computer, though. - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables do you have an old turntable you could plug in to your sound car with a Preamp? this would be better than nothing. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:41 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Thanks, Bob! Well if I don't get a turntable, maybe I'll just hunt around for that tape, and get some kind of cassette to PC type of thing. My brother was asking because he had the vinyl records. I want to copy them for him on CD if I can, but when I do it for myself, I'll put the albums on MP3 CD's. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23
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Thanks, Bruce! - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Amazon lists all sorts of CD's and MP3 downloadst by Mystic Moods Orchestra. I just looked. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: I would like that, but I checked on line about a couple of record albums from the Mystic Moods orchestra: Namely One Stormy Night and Emotions. I hear they were a group from San Francisco who did these albums in the 60s! And when I found out about those albums, I heard that they never made copies of those albums on CD! They used a lot of interesting sound effects, like thunder in One Stormy Night, and there was also a sound of a train that used the steam engine with the sound I remember before the Diesels. And the emotions album had other kinds of sounds as well! And also the music was good. It was relaxing! But nowhere is there a CD version of those albums, because they never did one. If anyone else wants to check, that's fine, but I think you'll have a dry run, like I did. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 2/14/2009 6:01 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Thanks for the info, Ray and Gary! I'll have a look! I don't use vinyl any more, but my brother asked me if I could somehow transfer a couple of his to CD. I hope that I can, and maybe grab a copy for myself! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Bruce makes a good point. unless you have a recording that is so rare it is better to buy the album on disc or download the MP3 album and burn the disc. you're only out a couple bucks instead of buying equipment you'll use once or twice. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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what about the Teac 350-G which allows you to dub vinyl to compact disc. then rip the disc to the hard drive if you want. clean up the files and remake the disc. you are talking about a lot of money for just a couple of vinyl restorations though. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I have one of those TEAC units, not sure of model, that I'm not using. It has rca jacks in the back for plugging in an external source such as a cassette deck. If you would like to buy it, write me off list. earlier, Gary Schindler, wrote: what about the Teac 350-G which allows you to dub vinyl to compact disc. then rip the disc to the hard drive if you want. clean up the files and remake the disc. you are talking about a lot of money for just a couple of vinyl restorations though. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 02/13/09 18:29:00 John Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray
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Part of the problem with DBX was that if you listened to a DBX-recorded tape on a non-DBX system, it sounded absolutely horrible. bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Schindler wrote: I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc
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Now your talking, heheheh - Original Message - From: Keith Gillard kgill...@shaw.ca To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables 2 inch tape baby! You can't get that quality using home equipment. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined
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Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help
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You got that right. Another example was the Sony bayta system. According to many people that I have spoken with it was far superior over the VHS system. - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org
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2 inch tape baby! You can't get that quality using home equipment. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I
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The water example is an excellent one, speaking as one who can't stand the taste of chlorine. Thanks for this very good message. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Bob Seed wrote: Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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i would agree with the HD broadcasting audio spectrum cause that is a totally different horse of another color all together which i would be glad to see happen sooner then later . - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables The water example is an excellent one, speaking as one who can't stand the taste of chlorine. Thanks for this very good message. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Bob Seed wrote: Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Actually, I would really appreciate the same information, though I may try to use what we have on hand. We got a so-called modern turntable and it has one of those silly ceramic cartridges. Maybe this doesn't make a difference if you have the right program. So information also appreciated. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:05 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm currently considering the purchase of a USB turntable to aid in converting my extensive and, in some cases, rare vinyl collection to digital and would appreciate any information, suggestions, guidance, etc., from list members regarding the subject. Suggestions of hardware and software to consider or avoid, tips on conversion, and any other input will be very sincerely appreciated. If you've had any experience with a USB turntable, I definitely would like to hear from you. You can reply on the list or, if you prefer, mail me directly at the e-mail address below. Thanks in advance. -- Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL ka3...@tampabay.rr.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1950 - Release Date: 2/12/2009 6:46 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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try to look at what Crowsly has on the www.crowsly.com or look for a Newmark USB turntable which also has RCA line outputs on it too. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:56 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Actually, I would really appreciate the same information, though I may try to use what we have on hand. We got a so-called modern turntable and it has one of those silly ceramic cartridges. Maybe this doesn't make a difference if you have the right program. So information also appreciated. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:05 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm currently considering the purchase of a USB turntable to aid in converting my extensive and, in some cases, rare vinyl collection to digital and would appreciate any information, suggestions, guidance, etc., from list members regarding the subject. Suggestions of hardware and software to consider or avoid, tips on conversion, and any other input will be very sincerely appreciated. If you've had any experience with a USB turntable, I definitely would like to hear from you. You can reply on the list or, if you prefer, mail me directly at the e-mail address below. Thanks in advance. -- Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL ka3...@tampabay.rr.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1950 - Release Date: 2/12/2009 6:46 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
What I want to know is whether any of these so-called USB turntables have a decent cartridge. As far as I know, the ones I have heard about have only ceramic cartridges; no magnetics as far as I know. Don Roberts - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:36 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Seeking information on USB turntables
I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: 13 February 2009 12:36 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 2009/02/11 06:11 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 2009/02/11 06:11 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
I doubt it very much since a good magnetic cartridge costs more than the USB turntable itself. - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts donald_roberts...@yahoo.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables What I want to know is whether any of these so-called USB turntables have a decent cartridge. As far as I know, the ones I have heard about have only ceramic cartridges; no magnetics as far as I know. Don Roberts - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:36 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Seeking information on USB turntables
In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:07 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: 13 February 2009 12:36 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 2009/02/11 06:11 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 2009/02/11 06:11 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Seeking information on USB turntables
Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Seeking information on USB turntables
Actually, I would really appreciate the same information, though I may try to use what we have on hand. We got a so-called modern turntable and it has one of those silly ceramic cartridges. Maybe this doesn't make a difference if you have the right program. So information also appreciated. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:05 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm currently considering the purchase of a USB turntable to aid in converting my extensive and, in some cases, rare vinyl collection to digital and would appreciate any information, suggestions, guidance, etc., from list members regarding the subject. Suggestions of hardware and software to consider or avoid, tips on conversion, and any other input will be very sincerely appreciated. If you've had any experience with a USB turntable, I definitely would like to hear from you. You can reply on the list or, if you prefer, mail me directly at the e-mail address below. Thanks in advance. -- Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL ka3...@tampabay.rr.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Seeking information on USB turntables
I'm currently considering the purchase of a USB turntable to aid in converting my extensive and, in some cases, rare vinyl collection to digital and would appreciate any information, suggestions, guidance, etc., from list members regarding the subject. Suggestions of hardware and software to consider or avoid, tips on conversion, and any other input will be very sincerely appreciated. If you've had any experience with a USB turntable, I definitely would like to hear from you. You can reply on the list or, if you prefer, mail me directly at the e-mail address below. Thanks in advance. -- Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL ka3...@tampabay.rr.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
